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If they can get Pence in office, why won`t the republicans impeach trump.
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Jul 28, 2017 06:08:05   #
chuckybrass
 
permafrost wrote:
People really did ask me this. Only reason I can think of..

It would be a huge dark stain on the party.

In the past 50 years the Republican party has given us: Richard Nixon (about to be impeached, resigned), Ronald Reagan (should have been impeached), George W. Bush (should have been impeached) and now Donald Trump (quite possibly will be impeached.) This is not a good record. Only Gerald Ford and George H.W. Bush come off with any kind of dignity.

People hate to be proven wrong. American conservatives doubly so. Denial is deep in the mindset and they can’t stand the idea of their leaders falling so often. They don’t want to see their beloved philosophy proven wrong, again.

True, in some ways Mike Pence is slightly more sane than Trump (not saying much.) But that doesn’t mean they are eager to can Trump just yet. The Republicans in Congress and the Senate still think they can manipulate Trump into rubber stamping whatever paper they toss onto his desk. They are probably right. Although I doubt Pence would be reluctant to write his name either.
People really did ask me this. Only reason I can t... (show quote)


Let's see: You think Nixon, Reagan, Bush, and now Trump should be impeached, but the list fails to include Clinton or Obama. Congratulations. You must live in your own dimension of the twilight zone. I know of but four impeachable Presidents, and three of them were Communists, or what you would call a Democrat. Johnson, Nixon, Clinton, and Obama. Thank you and your foolish cronies for setting back progress in the U.S. for a hundred years. Thanks to you and yours, the dollar has no buying power, products on the shelf aren't worth a crap, white people have NO rights, and people can no longer afford to see a doctor. You should be so proud, and I hope your children thank you before you go on to your happy hunting ground.

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Jul 28, 2017 06:40:39   #
viking747
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
perm, O f course I agree with you. For some reason, Republicans love Reagan. The only real accomplishment of his administration is have made Americans feel good about their country, after the Nam catastrophe. Not to shabby.
Nixon was a criminal and baby Bush was terrible. The Donald is another story. In my opinion, he is the worst President in history. He lies so much that no person can depend on any thing he says. He believes that the people in the cabinet must be loyal to him personally. but it doest mean that he must be loyal to those that supported him like Sessions. He not only threw Sessions under a bus, but he personally drove over him several times.
All that matters to Trump is himself. He is the best example of narcissistic personality disorder I have ever seen.
I don't like conservatives like Pence, but at least he has some idea of how a President is supposed to act.
perm, O f course I agree with you. For some reason... (show quote)
Hey Salty, President Trump is all right. You're just getting some bad SOS. The worst in history would have to go to Obozo. He spent 8 years trying his best to do the worst to America. He brought in Muslims which was a big mistake. Fair winds and following seas.

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Jul 28, 2017 07:03:43   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
Where did you grow up?



Worried for our children wrote:
Thank you, sir. Amen!

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Jul 28, 2017 07:05:34   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
So VERY, VERY "TRUE"!!!



chuckybrass wrote:
Let's see: You think Nixon, Reagan, Bush, and now Trump should be impeached, but the list fails to include Clinton or Obama. Congratulations. You must live in your own dimension of the twilight zone. I know of but four impeachable Presidents, and three of them were Communists, or what you would call a Democrat. Johnson, Nixon, Clinton, and Obama. Thank you and your foolish cronies for setting back progress in the U.S. for a hundred years. Thanks to you and yours, the dollar has no buying power, products on the shelf aren't worth a crap, white people have NO rights, and people can no longer afford to see a doctor. You should be so proud, and I hope your children thank you before you go on to your happy hunting ground.
Let's see: You think Nixon, Reagan, Bush, and now... (show quote)

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Jul 28, 2017 07:06:41   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
Yeaaaaaahhh!!!



Super Dave wrote:
Naaaahhh..

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Jul 28, 2017 07:36:24   #
roy
 
viking747 wrote:
Hey Salty, President Trump is all right. You're just getting some bad SOS. The worst in history would have to go to Obozo. He spent 8 years trying his best to do the worst to America. He brought in Muslims which was a big mistake. Fair winds and following seas.


How many muslims come in this country under bush,why did muslins want to come to our country in the first place,I dont like muslims mexicans coming in our country either.But when you invade a country and destory their way of life they want to go somewhere.mexicans invaded our country because bussiness wanted cheap labor and our goverment which is run by bussiness give them what they wanted.

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Jul 28, 2017 08:17:34   #
Andy
 
The reason the People don't like Trump is cause he is very outspoken. Remember, people he didn't have what he now has being wishy-washy... He very blunt.. u can either like it or lump it. The Dems hate him cause of the things he wants done.......... Getting rid of the Muslims Obama brought over here.. He did this in a sneaky way.. I bet None in Congress knew what he was doing. All u Democrats were HIGH on Obama and look what he has done to this country... He's don't nothing but fly the skies and is still flying the skies that YOU and I pay for... he lied his way to the top.. and if that had of been a Republican you would be screaming from the roof tops to get rid of him... but since its slimy old Obama.. it's an ok thing....

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Jul 28, 2017 08:47:27   #
Ve'hoe
 
this particular subject is a long,,long term project,,,, when I observe other normally intelligent people having the same experience, it strengthens my resolve.... that, plus his racist remarks,, lack of scientific knowledge, and that "truth telling" thing he, like all liberals, avoid like the plague............

why do you ask?

Super Dave wrote:
How long did it take you to come back with that snappy little answer?

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Jul 28, 2017 09:04:38   #
roy
 
Andy wrote:
The reason the People don't like Trump is cause he is very outspoken. Remember, people he didn't have what he now has being wishy-washy... He very blunt.. u can either like it or lump it. The Dems hate him cause of the things he wants done.......... Getting rid of the Muslims Obama brought over here.. He did this in a sneaky way.. I bet None in Congress knew what he was doing. All u Democrats were HIGH on Obama and look what he has done to this country... He's don't nothing but fly the skies and is still flying the skies that YOU and I pay for... he lied his way to the top.. and if that had of been a Republican you would be screaming from the roof tops to get rid of him... but since its slimy old Obama.. it's an ok thing....
The reason the People don't like Trump is cause he... (show quote)


Just who did start letting muslins start coming in our country,i believe they were coming before obama.trump being outspoken is one thing,keeping goverment in a tissy where nobody knows from one day to the next what the hell is going on,is another thing .Nothing is really getting done.Just like healthcare as bad as the obamacare turned out at least obama worked with dems.to get what he wanted.Trump cant even work with reps.to get what he wants,he just want them to pass something right are wrong The only thing he has done is arm twisting and threats.

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Jul 28, 2017 09:23:49   #
gnie Loc: Gods Creation
 
coulda, shoulda, woulda....like horse shoes....don't count. Lefty's and their lack of history....

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Jul 28, 2017 10:03:22   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
The Democrats needed voters, because most Americans were becoming wise to the Democrats selfserving ways, and were starting to vote Republican, hence the over 1,300 political seats the Democrats lost to Republicans in State Legislatures, Governors, the US Congress, and the White House, over the last 8 years.

This is why Obama told all legal and illegal immigrants that were not citizens before the last Presidential election, not to worry about voting, because there would be no cross-checking between legal and illegal immigrant lists with voting registries.

But today President Trump has instituted a federal investigatory committee on voter fraud, who are cross-checking legal and illegal immigrant lists with state's voter registries, as are many independent voter citizen groups.

When voter photo ID has proven easier to acquire than a driver's license or a bank account, why would it be considered voter suppression, unless those who would have to get one would have to prove US citizenship, stopping millions of illegal foreign immigrant voters all across the USA?

Mexicans didn't invade the USA, the Democrats invited them in, by refusing to enforce our immigration laws, and claiming those immigration laws were broken. The only thing broken about our immigration laws was a President who refused to allow our state and federal government law enforcement agencies to enforce them. Obama did this by having his DOJ sue states and all local law enforcement agencies who tried to enforce our immigration laws, and had the federal courts order those state and local law enforcement agencies to quit enforcing federal law that was in the juristdiction of the federal law enforcement agencies, which Obama ordered the federal law enforcement agencies not to enforce our immigration laws too.



roy wrote:
How many muslims come in this country under bush,why did muslins want to come to our country in the first place,I dont like muslims mexicans coming in our country either.But when you invade a country and destory their way of life they want to go somewhere.mexicans invaded our country because bussiness wanted cheap labor and our goverment which is run by bussiness give them what they wanted.

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Jul 28, 2017 10:34:39   #
roy
 
Randy131 wrote:
The Democrats needed voters, because most Americans were becoming wise to the Democrats selfserving ways, and were starting to vote Republican, hence the over 1,300 political seats the Democrats lost to Republicans in State Legislatures, Governors, the US Congress, and the White House, over the last 8 years.

This is why Obama told all legal and illegal immigrants that were not citizens before the last Presidential election, not to worry about voting, because there would be no cross-checking between legal and illegal immigrant lists with voting registries.

But today President Trump has instituted a federal investigatory committee on voter fraud, who are cross-checking legal and illegal immigrant lists with state's voter registries, as are many independent voter citizen groups.

When voter photo ID has proven easier to acquire than a driver's license or a bank account, why would it be considered voter suppression, unless those who would have to get one would have to prove US citizenship, stopping millions of illegal foreign immigrant voters all across the USA?

Mexicans didn't invade the USA, the Democrats invited them in, by refusing to enforce our immigration laws, and claiming those immigration laws were broken. The only thing broken about our immigration laws was a President who refused to allow our state and federal government law enforcement agencies to enforce them. Obama did this by having his DOJ sue states and all local law enforcement agencies who tried to enforce our immigration laws, and had the federal courts order those state and local law enforcement agencies to quit enforcing federal law that was in the juristdiction of the federal law enforcement agencies, which Obama ordered the federal law enforcement agencies not to enforce our immigration laws too.
The Democrats needed voters, because most America... (show quote)


So you know for fact obama told lllegal to vote,and when nafta was signed what party stepped up to stop mexicans invadeing our country,none of them bussiness wanted cheap labor and got it.

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Jul 28, 2017 10:49:26   #
Kazudy
 
permafrost wrote:
People really did ask me this. Only reason I can think of..

It would be a huge dark stain on the party.

In the past 50 years the Republican party has given us: Richard Nixon (about to be impeached, resigned), Ronald Reagan (should have been impeached), George W. Bush (should have been impeached) and now Donald Trump (quite possibly will be impeached.) This is not a good record. Only Gerald Ford and George H.W. Bush come off with any kind of dignity.

People hate to be proven wrong. American conservatives doubly so. Denial is deep in the mindset and they can’t stand the idea of their leaders falling so often. They don’t want to see their beloved philosophy proven wrong, again.

True, in some ways Mike Pence is slightly more sane than Trump (not saying much.) But that doesn’t mean they are eager to can Trump just yet. The Republicans in Congress and the Senate still think they can manipulate Trump into rubber stamping whatever paper they toss onto his desk. They are probably right. Although I doubt Pence would be reluctant to write his name either.
People really did ask me this. Only reason I can t... (show quote)

I should have known that it was that idiot Permanent frost brain that asks why Trump isn't impeached so Pence can get in. First of all Trump beat the Republicans, and won the nomination, then against all odds he beat America's darling for the presidency. He is giving the communist mainstream media hissy fits. Now impeach him FOR WHAT? According to the mainstream media, the allegations are unnamed sources. Don't forget Americans are NOT STUPID regardless what Obama and Jonathon Grubber said. Americans saw real coiiussion when Bill Clinton received half a million dollars from the Russians for a 20 minute speech. More collusion the Russians took 20% of America's uranium for donation of millions of dollars TO THE CLINTON FOUNDATION!!!! Now tell me how much of this was on the main stream media, and for how long? Nothing like they bombard Trump day after day, then there's night after night with Coulbert, Kimmel, and that other guy.

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Jul 28, 2017 11:02:38   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
Yes, on national TV, seen by millions, Obama said that nobody had to worry about their votes being cross-checked with immigrant lists, that he would not allow it. Youtube also has it in their video index. Look it up and watch for yourself.

I too know for a fact that big business wanted the cheap labor, but Obama and the Democrats were running the country for the last 8 years, not big business, and if you don't believe that, then just ask Obama or a Democrat, who it was that was running the country during Obama's Presidency.



roy wrote:
So you know for fact obama told lllegal to vote,and when nafta was signed what party stepped up to stop mexicans invadeing our country,none of them bussiness wanted cheap labor and got it.

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Jul 28, 2017 11:21:01   #
Lonewolf
 
Yep 44 thousand lost health care under the aca but 23 million will lose it under trump no care
We will see how this play's out



uote=Randy131]Hey stupid, you have to commit a crime to be impeached, as Bill Clinton was impeached for lying to a 'Grand Jury' under oath, but the Democrats in the Senate would not vote to throw the impeached criminal out of office, so he was allowed to complete his term as President. Nixon committed a crime, but resigned before he was impeached, because he knew that the Republicans in Congress were honest, with integrity and honor, and would throw him out of office for being a criminal, unlike Democrats who have a double standard and a dual justice system, and accepts criminality when ever committed by their own, but insist on just punishment when a Republican commits a crime. At least this is what has been proven in our history by Clinton and Nixon.

History has recorded President Reagan as one of our greatest Presidents, accomplishing so very much by turning around Jimmy Carters terrible 4 year recession, into the longest peacetime economic growth in US history, while also rebuilding the US military that Carter and the Democrats had decimated over 4 years, and won the 'Cold War' against the USSR by being overwhelmed with Reagan's tremendous economy and huge military buildup, then watching the USSR fall apart as President Reagan helped reunite the two Germany's, that were divided by the USSR.

The Bush Presidents both won wars in the Middle East through putting together huge coalitions that included other Islamic countries, and had Afghanistan stable until Obama became President and decided to try to win there, like Bush won in Iraq, by increasing troop levels like Bush did in Iraq (which a Senator Obama declared Bush's troop increase would never work), but Obama increased the troop levels to only half of what the US military asked for, and gave a predetermined pull-out time, which the enemy just waited for it to come, putting Afghanistan in such terrible conditions that now President Trump will have to win the longest war in US history, the most under 8 years of Obama's rule, just like President Trump had to enforce Obama's "red line in the sand" in Syria, which when Assad crossed it, then Obama claimed it was the European's "red line in the sand", not his, but President Trump enforced it when Assad crossed it again.

President Ford did much of nothing, and because of that is liked by the Democrats, but he did pardon Nixon, which the Democrats made a stink of.

But lets look at the Democratic Presidents, such as jimmy Carter who had 4 years of the worst recession in history, where even the liberal biased media invented a word to describe how bad Carter's economy was, "STAGFLATION", then invented an index to explain why Carter's economy was so bad called the "Double Digit Triple Misery Index", showing Carter's economy was plagued with double digit unemployment, double digit inflation, and double digit interest rates, and all this by the liberal biased media just shows how bad the US economy was under Jimmy Carter. During Jimmy Carters 4 years as President, the Democrats had majorities in both houses of Congress for the entire time, and the reason why the recession lasted as long as it did.

Then there is the womanizing Bill Clinton, who had to pay out hundreds of thousands of dollars in several settlements for sexual harassment, was accused of rape by a very believable victim, and who was threatened by Hillary Clinton if she insisted on making an official complaint, then Bill had an illicit affair with one of the White House young female workers (similar to pages) less than half his age, by having her perform blow jobs on him in the halls and closets of the White House, ejecting his semen on a blue dress of hers that she saved unwashed, and put his cigars in her private parts before he smoked them. Just a truly great example of a morally depraved President. Besides Bill Clinton's sexual escapades, both in and out of the White House, his first 2 years in office he had a terrible recession. The recession was so bad that the Republicans came up with a 'Contract with America', 23 itemized bills that they claimed they would pass and send to the House to end the recession, if the American people would just elect enough Republicans Senators for them to have a majority in the Senate. The Republicans knew that since the Democrats had a 40 plus seat majority in the House, that they could never take the majority there, but hoped to cut that majority significantly. But after that first Clinton midterm election, the American people gave the Republicans a much larger majority in the Senate than the Republicans thought that they could ever achieve. But then in the House, the American people also gave the Republicans a landslide majority victory there, by changing a Democratic 40 plus seat majority, into a Republican 40 plus seat majority, the first time in 42 years that the Republicans had a majority in the House. This made Newt Gingrich the 'Speaker of the House', which the Republicans then passed all 23 bills in the 'Contract with America' in less than 30 days. The libearl biased media claimed that was a record, because not one single campaign promised bill was ever passed in 30 days or less, let alone 23 of them. Bill Clinton signed 21 into law, and vetoed 2, the "partial birth abortion ban", and the "student's voluntary prayer in public schools". After signing those 21 bills into law, a Democratic Senator got on national TV and said Bill Clinton should be impeached for signing all those Republican bills into law, for the Democrats had plenty enough votes to uphold his vetoes, which is what he should have done to all those republican bills. The 'Contract with America' got the USA out of the recession just like the Republicans claimed it would, and very fast too, which caused the Republicans to hold majority control of both houses of Congress for all of Bill Clinton's Presidency. Then the Republicans sent several balanced budgets to Bill Clinton in his remaining Presidential years, which he fought against, but eventually had to sign, and Bill Clinton afterward took credit for everything that the Republican controlled Congress achieved. Ironically, that Democratic Senator wanting to impeach Bill Clinton, turned out to be a prophet of sorts, because 4 years later the Republicans did impeach Bill Clinton for lying under oath to a 'Grand Jury'. Also that stink that the Democrats made about President Ford pardoning Nixon, they said nothing about the over thousand people Clinton pardoned upon leaving office, receiving tremendous remuneration under the table, from some criminals that hadn't even been prosecuted yet, but were multimillionaires who didn't mind paying out big fees so they wouldn't be prosecuted, or those who had already been prosecuted, to get them out of prison.

Then there is Obama, the 'LIAR', coward and economically malfeasant President. Obama knowingly lied to the American people about the 'Affordable Care Act' (Obamacare), by telling the people that if Obamacare passed, they could still keep their healthcare insurance plan if they liked it, and their doctors that they liked and trusted, and it would lower their healcare costs by at least $2,400 a year for a family of four. Many months before Obamacre was voted on and passed in Congress, there were several e-mails and memos sent to all Democrats in Washington DC, warning them not to promise this, because it was not true. But they kept saying it anyway in order to get Obamacare passed, as Jonathon Gruber has confessed to multiple times in his lectures. Then Obama draws a "red line in the sand" in Syria, warning Assad not to cross it or he would suffer the consequences, then when Assad did cross that "red line in the sand", Obama did nothing but claim that it was the Europeans who made the "red line in the sand", not him. But when we got an honest and brave President in office, when Assad did cross that "red line in the sand" again, a real President punished him by destroyind Assad's biggest air base and most of the aircraft and equipment on it, with a barage of US cruise missiles. How bad was Obama's Presidency economically, he was the first President in US histroy to never have a single year where the GDP went above a 2% growth rate, and Obama had 8 years to achieve that feat, while many Presidents only had 4 years, and some even less. When the Domocratic nominee, who was a shoe in to win the Presidency, promised that she would continue all of Obama's failed policies and agendas, it was enough for the American people to turn to a non-politician, who never held any kind of public office in his life, to elect as our President, just so we would not have to go through another 4 years of an Obama style and type of economy.

Yeah, quite a comparison between the Democratic Presidents and the Republican Presidents, which most of the American people have a much different opinion of than you do.[/quote]

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