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If they can get Pence in office, why won`t the republicans impeach trump.
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Jul 27, 2017 15:41:50   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
permafrost wrote:
Hell, we could look at the GOP record..

Nixon-- resigned due to Impeachment coming.. Agnew, resigned as a crook..

Still, neither were impeached.
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Reagan-- should have been impeached....

I see how this works. I give you facts, and you you give me your opinion. (Irrelevant)
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Bush the younger----should have been impeached...Chaney.. was a crook and should have been indited..

Again, my facts vs. your opinion. (Btw, the word is indicted)
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Now, the orange con man.... a true danger to America... Will he last???

He's only a danger to your liberal ideology. He'll be here for seven and half more years, pull up a seat and get comfortable.
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That's what the democrats have given us.

If you're referring to the two impeached presidents, then, yeah, I know.

Those of you on the left have nothing. No impeachable evidence on Trump. Nobody to offer in 2020. And no platform to run on. You're losing government seats at an unprecedented rate, that's obama's fault, and that's what his legacy will be.

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Jul 27, 2017 15:42:06   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
Hey stupid, you have to commit a crime to be impeached, as Bill Clinton was impeached for lying to a 'Grand Jury' under oath, but the Democrats in the Senate would not vote to throw the impeached criminal out of office, so he was allowed to complete his term as President. Nixon committed a crime, but resigned before he was impeached, because he knew that the Republicans in Congress were honest, with integrity and honor, and would throw him out of office for being a criminal, unlike Democrats who have a double standard and a dual justice system, and accepts criminality when ever committed by their own, but insist on just punishment when a Republican commits a crime. At least this is what has been proven in our history by Clinton and Nixon.

History has recorded President Reagan as one of our greatest Presidents, accomplishing so very much by turning around Jimmy Carters terrible 4 year recession, into the longest peacetime economic growth in US history, while also rebuilding the US military that Carter and the Democrats had decimated over 4 years, and won the 'Cold War' against the USSR by being overwhelmed with Reagan's tremendous economy and huge military buildup, then watching the USSR fall apart as President Reagan helped reunite the two Germany's, that were divided by the USSR.

The Bush Presidents both won wars in the Middle East through putting together huge coalitions that included other Islamic countries, and had Afghanistan stable until Obama became President and decided to try to win there, like Bush won in Iraq, by increasing troop levels like Bush did in Iraq (which a Senator Obama declared Bush's troop increase would never work), but Obama increased the troop levels to only half of what the US military asked for, and gave a predetermined pull-out time, which the enemy just waited for it to come, putting Afghanistan in such terrible conditions that now President Trump will have to win the longest war in US history, the most under 8 years of Obama's rule, just like President Trump had to enforce Obama's "red line in the sand" in Syria, which when Assad crossed it, then Obama claimed it was the European's "red line in the sand", not his, but President Trump enforced it when Assad crossed it again.

President Ford did much of nothing, and because of that is liked by the Democrats, but he did pardon Nixon, which the Democrats made a stink of.

But lets look at the Democratic Presidents, such as jimmy Carter who had 4 years of the worst recession in history, where even the liberal biased media invented a word to describe how bad Carter's economy was, "STAGFLATION", then invented an index to explain why Carter's economy was so bad called the "Double Digit Triple Misery Index", showing Carter's economy was plagued with double digit unemployment, double digit inflation, and double digit interest rates, and all this by the liberal biased media just shows how bad the US economy was under Jimmy Carter. During Jimmy Carters 4 years as President, the Democrats had majorities in both houses of Congress for the entire time, and the reason why the recession lasted as long as it did.

Then there is the womanizing Bill Clinton, who had to pay out hundreds of thousands of dollars in several settlements for sexual harassment, was accused of rape by a very believable victim, and who was threatened by Hillary Clinton if she insisted on making an official complaint, then Bill had an illicit affair with one of the White House young female workers (similar to pages) less than half his age, by having her perform blow jobs on him in the halls and closets of the White House, ejecting his semen on a blue dress of hers that she saved unwashed, and put his cigars in her private parts before he smoked them. Just a truly great example of a morally depraved President. Besides Bill Clinton's sexual escapades, both in and out of the White House, his first 2 years in office he had a terrible recession. The recession was so bad that the Republicans came up with a 'Contract with America', 23 itemized bills that they claimed they would pass and send to the House to end the recession, if the American people would just elect enough Republicans Senators for them to have a majority in the Senate. The Republicans knew that since the Democrats had a 40 plus seat majority in the House, that they could never take the majority there, but hoped to cut that majority significantly. But after that first Clinton midterm election, the American people gave the Republicans a much larger majority in the Senate than the Republicans thought that they could ever achieve. But then in the House, the American people also gave the Republicans a landslide majority victory there, by changing a Democratic 40 plus seat majority, into a Republican 40 plus seat majority, the first time in 42 years that the Republicans had a majority in the House. This made Newt Gingrich the 'Speaker of the House', which the Republicans then passed all 23 bills in the 'Contract with America' in less than 30 days. The libearl biased media claimed that was a record, because not one single campaign promised bill was ever passed in 30 days or less, let alone 23 of them. Bill Clinton signed 21 into law, and vetoed 2, the "partial birth abortion ban", and the "student's voluntary prayer in public schools". After signing those 21 bills into law, a Democratic Senator got on national TV and said Bill Clinton should be impeached for signing all those Republican bills into law, for the Democrats had plenty enough votes to uphold his vetoes, which is what he should have done to all those republican bills. The 'Contract with America' got the USA out of the recession just like the Republicans claimed it would, and very fast too, which caused the Republicans to hold majority control of both houses of Congress for all of Bill Clinton's Presidency. Then the Republicans sent several balanced budgets to Bill Clinton in his remaining Presidential years, which he fought against, but eventually had to sign, and Bill Clinton afterward took credit for everything that the Republican controlled Congress achieved. Ironically, that Democratic Senator wanting to impeach Bill Clinton, turned out to be a prophet of sorts, because 4 years later the Republicans did impeach Bill Clinton for lying under oath to a 'Grand Jury'. Also that stink that the Democrats made about President Ford pardoning Nixon, they said nothing about the over thousand people Clinton pardoned upon leaving office, receiving tremendous remuneration under the table, from some criminals that hadn't even been prosecuted yet, but were multimillionaires who didn't mind paying out big fees so they wouldn't be prosecuted, or those who had already been prosecuted, to get them out of prison.

Then there is Obama, the 'LIAR', coward and economically malfeasant President. Obama knowingly lied to the American people about the 'Affordable Care Act' (Obamacare), by telling the people that if Obamacare passed, they could still keep their healthcare insurance plan if they liked it, and their doctors that they liked and trusted, and it would lower their healcare costs by at least $2,400 a year for a family of four. Many months before Obamacre was voted on and passed in Congress, there were several e-mails and memos sent to all Democrats in Washington DC, warning them not to promise this, because it was not true. But they kept saying it anyway in order to get Obamacare passed, as Jonathon Gruber has confessed to multiple times in his lectures. Then Obama draws a "red line in the sand" in Syria, warning Assad not to cross it or he would suffer the consequences, then when Assad did cross that "red line in the sand", Obama did nothing but claim that it was the Europeans who made the "red line in the sand", not him. But when we got an honest and brave President in office, when Assad did cross that "red line in the sand" again, a real President punished him by destroyind Assad's biggest air base and most of the aircraft and equipment on it, with a barage of US cruise missiles. How bad was Obama's Presidency economically, he was the first President in US histroy to never have a single year where the GDP went above a 2% growth rate, and Obama had 8 years to achieve that feat, while many Presidents only had 4 years, and some even less. When the Domocratic nominee, who was a shoe in to win the Presidency, promised that she would continue all of Obama's failed policies and agendas, it was enough for the American people to turn to a non-politician, who never held any kind of public office in his life, to elect as our President, just so we would not have to go through another 4 years of an Obama style and type of economy.

Yeah, quite a comparison between the Democratic Presidents and the Republican Presidents, which most of the American people have a much different opinion of than you do.



permafrost wrote:
People really did ask me this. Only reason I can think of..

It would be a huge dark stain on the party.

In the past 50 years the Republican party has given us: Richard Nixon (about to be impeached, resigned), Ronald Reagan (should have been impeached), George W. Bush (should have been impeached) and now Donald Trump (quite possibly will be impeached.) This is not a good record. Only Gerald Ford and George H.W. Bush come off with any kind of dignity.

People hate to be proven wrong. American conservatives doubly so. Denial is deep in the mindset and they can’t stand the idea of their leaders falling so often. They don’t want to see their beloved philosophy proven wrong, again.

True, in some ways Mike Pence is slightly more sane than Trump (not saying much.) But that doesn’t mean they are eager to can Trump just yet. The Republicans in Congress and the Senate still think they can manipulate Trump into rubber stamping whatever paper they toss onto his desk. They are probably right. Although I doubt Pence would be reluctant to write his name either.
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Jul 27, 2017 15:44:25   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
permafrost wrote:
People really did ask me this. Only reason I can think of..

It would be a huge dark stain on the party.

In the past 50 years the Republican party has given us: Richard Nixon (about to be impeached, resigned), Ronald Reagan (should have been impeached), George W. Bush (should have been impeached) and now Donald Trump (quite possibly will be impeached.) This is not a good record. Only Gerald Ford and George H.W. Bush come off with any kind of dignity.

People hate to be proven wrong. American conservatives doubly so. Denial is deep in the mindset and they can’t stand the idea of their leaders falling so often. They don’t want to see their beloved philosophy proven wrong, again.

True, in some ways Mike Pence is slightly more sane than Trump (not saying much.) But that doesn’t mean they are eager to can Trump just yet. The Republicans in Congress and the Senate still think they can manipulate Trump into rubber stamping whatever paper they toss onto his desk. They are probably right. Although I doubt Pence would be reluctant to write his name either.
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Jul 27, 2017 16:03:44   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Optics.................and the midterm elections. They have to begin their midterm strategy immediately after their next recess ( which is why they're hurrying the healthcare crap ), because there are two more recesses after this one, then it's 2018 already.

They began their strategy in 2010, just didn't have it full throttle in time for 2012. But the leftist ideology took a thrashing in 2014 and 2016, and have lost special election, after special election since. And it will continue into 2018 and 2020, because the only platform they're running on is, HATE TRUMP. (Yawn)
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To impeach trump now, with zero wins on the books, puts them in an impossible position leading up to Nov. 2018. The problem they're having with this is, like a Three Stooges skit, for every hole in their boat they plug............Trump is tweeting 2 more.

"To impeach now..." - you say that as is if you had the ability. Cut it out, it sounds very silly. The only three stooges I see are, Pelosi, Warren, Watters, Schumer, Perez... oh wait, that's more than three, it's pretty easy to get carried away when identifying democrats to compare with stooges. 😂😂😂

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Jul 27, 2017 16:35:47   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Worried for our children wrote:
If you're referring to the two impeached presidents, then, yeah, I know.

Those of you on the left have nothing. No impeachable evidence on Trump. Nobody to offer in 2020. And no platform to run on. You're losing government seats at an unprecedented rate, that's obama's fault, and that's what his legacy will be.



Darn, I have to start proof reading.. I keep saying that..

If not for my opinion, how can I hope to change the world.

I am concerned with our situation as a political party. We need to find leader ship and define our platform..

Stop depending on trump and the far right to remove themselves..









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Jul 27, 2017 17:11:44   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
permafrost wrote:
Darn, I have to start proof reading.. I keep saying that..

Don't worry about it, I'll help you out when I can. 👍
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If not for my opinion, how can I hope to change the world.

Try using facts. Another good way would be for you to stop perusing occupy democrats, they will turn your brain into mush. Especially that last pic, it's all lies. The democrat party fought tooth and nail against the CRA (All of them). Republicans passed it. See? It's facts like that, that I'm talking about. (The inconvenient truth about democrats.) https://youtu.be/g_a7dQXilCo "Congressman Santos, is a fictional character from a TV show. See how silly occupy democrats is? If you wish to change the world, don't use fiction.
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I am concerned with our situation as a political party. We need to find leader ship and define our platform..

Now here's a great topic for discussion. Do you have any suggestions, or ideas for your party?
(Btw, leadership is one word.👍)
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Stop depending on trump and the far right to remove themselves..

A fine starting point, now you're getting the hang of it. 👍

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Jul 27, 2017 18:33:16   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
Very good and intelligent comments, to someone who is not a match with you when presenting facts, because he won't admit that all the real and true facts are against his propaganda and opinions. But still keep up the good work with those facts, for some of us understand the truth and love to hear them.



Worried for our children wrote:
If you're referring to the two impeached presidents, then, yeah, I know.

Those of you on the left have nothing. No impeachable evidence on Trump. Nobody to offer in 2020. And no platform to run on. You're losing government seats at an unprecedented rate, that's obama's fault, and that's what his legacy will be.

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Jul 27, 2017 19:14:03   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
Randy131 wrote:
Very good and intelligent comments, to someone who is not a match with you when presenting facts, because he won't admit that all the real and true facts are against his propaganda and opinions. But still keep up the good work with those facts, for some of us understand the truth and love to hear them.


Well thank you kindly, Randy. I hold the same sentiments towards your comments as well. Every time I intend to compliment you, that darned Linda Joy takes the words right out of my mouth.

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Jul 27, 2017 19:34:34   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
Linda is a beauty and a very intelligent 'LADY', and she probably puts both of us to shame, but thank you for your compliment. I hope you keep up the good fight and keep these liberal idiots straight, with the real facts when they start using propaganda and their opinions as facts, because they see their indoctrinators do the same to them. May GOD bless you and yours, and stay safe in this new crazy liberal insanity of resistance and obstructionism, through riots to destroy property and physical harm anyone who is not in agreement with them and their agendas. Their hatred is such that I've never seen in my entire life, and makes me believe that the Biblical prophecies are upon us.



Worried for our children wrote:
Well thank you kindly, Randy. I hold the same sentiments towards your comments as well. Every time I intend to compliment you, that darned Linda Joy takes the words right out of my mouth.

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Jul 27, 2017 20:01:27   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
Randy131 wrote:
Linda is a beauty and a very inelligent 'LADY', and she probably puts both of us to shame, but thank you for your compliment.

You're welcome. Indeed she is, and could. Her and I have developed quite a friendship over the years, though we've never met face to face, she holds a special place in my heart. She epitomizes dignity, grace, and honesty. She, for me, makes this site worthwhile.
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I hope you keep up the good fight and keep these liberal idiots straight, with the real facts when they start using propaganda and their opinions as facts, because they see their indoctrinators do the same to them. May GOD bless you and yours, and stay safe in this new crazy liberal insanity of resistance and obstructionism, through riots to destroy property and physical harm anyone who is not in agreement with them and their agendas. Their hatred is such that I've never seen in my entire life, and makes me believe that the Biblical prophecies are upon us.
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You can count on me. Make sure you do the same. May the Lord keep you and yours in His loving arms, be safe my friend. 👍

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Jul 27, 2017 20:15:32   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
I agree with you completely, and Linda holds a special place in my heart also, for she was originally from where I grew up in Florida. We share a lot of interests, and I also have not met her personally yet.

Know this for sure though, as I have to admit it, GOD has blessed me more than I have ever deserved, and I know I owe Him much more service, and to do so I'll have to live to a ripe old age.

Also don't worry, I'll always be shoulder to shoulder with you in the trenches, as we try to make sure good prevails over evil, and GOD's will be done. You also take care my friend.



Worried for our children wrote:
You can count on me. Make sure you do the same. May the Lord keep you and yours in His loving arms, be safe my friend. 👍

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Jul 27, 2017 20:17:29   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Randy131 wrote:
I agree with you completely, and Linda holds a special place in my heart also, for she was originally from where I grew up in Florida. We share a lot of interests, and I also have not met her personally yet.

Know this for sure though, as I have to admit it, GOD has blessed me more than I have ever deserved, and I know I owe Him much more service, and to do so I'll have to live to a ripe old age.

Also don't worry, I'll always be shoulder to shoulder with you in the trenches, as we try to make sure good prevails over evil, and GOD's will be done. You also take care my friend.
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I have to be very careful keep a distance from LJ. If I were to get too close to her she could never go back to another man.

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Jul 27, 2017 20:54:37   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
That's something Linda and other men aren't too worried about, she has had the best, and knows how to judge what isn't, so go ahead and take your chances, for we'd love to hear from her about you.



Super Dave wrote:
I have to be very careful keep a distance from LJ. If I were to get too close to her she could never go back to another man.

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Jul 27, 2017 21:12:22   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Randy131 wrote:
That's something Linda and other men aren't too worried about, she has had the best, and knows how to judge what isn't, so go ahead and take your chances, for we'd love to hear from her about you.


Naaaahhh..

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Jul 27, 2017 21:30:53   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
Randy131 wrote:
I agree with you completely, and Linda holds a special place in my heart also, for she was originally from where I grew up in Florida. We share a lot of interests, and I also have not met her personally yet.

Then that would mean you and I share a lot of interests as well, awesome! 👍 She's also spent some time in her youth in a neighborhood a couple over from the one where I grew up, what a small world.
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Know this for sure though, as I have to admit it, GOD has blessed me more than I have ever deserved, and I know I owe Him much more service, and to do so I'll have to live to a ripe old age.

I'm forced to admit the same. I've experienced great pain, but I've experienced great joy as well, even more so. I'm a very fortunate man. 👍
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Also don't worry, I'll always be shoulder to shoulder with you in the trenches, as we try to make sure good prevails over evil, and GOD's will be done. You also take care my friend.

Thank you, sir. Amen!

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