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Jun 19, 2017 10:04:01   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Steve700 wrote:
I didn't ask for a response, I said if you wanted to respond to do it here.
Why do you waste my time with this nitwittery that isn't worth talking about? I sent you the PM because it had been a couple days and I didn't know if you would be returning to the site to ever see what I put in my valued time to respond to you, a wasted effort though it was.

Go back and reread my post you responded to because I added more to it after you had already responded



Your valued time? You have to be kidding me. You post the same tired cliches over and over. Not an ounce of originality, nor thinking. At this point, I could write one of your screeds and you wouldn't know the difference.

Actually, I think that you and some of your fellow posters may be bots. Early generation at that, given the primitive programming.

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Jun 19, 2017 10:39:12   #
Steve700
 
working class stiff wrote:
Your valued time? You have to be kidding me. You post the same tired cliches over and over. Not an ounce of originality, nor thinking. At this point, I could write one of your screeds and you wouldn't know the difference.

Actually, I think that you and some of your fellow posters may be bots. Early generation at that, given the primitive programming.

Yes, my valued time. I am not here to argue or even debate, but to educate. In my old age I am on a mission to wake up as many as I can. It takes a lot of repetition before it begins to sink in and the real sick ones like you, know what's right but don't give a damn and have made the decision that being evil is okay because it pleases you/them, and their too lacking in wisdom and spiritual discernment to understand the consequences. You have aligned your self with evil my friend. Evil that dresses itself in the garb of fairness and equality with a perverted sense of justice. Take a look at my two latest articles that describe the evil and sickness of the Democratic Party and its useful idiots that assist in the goal of obtaining total power to enable them to rid the country and then the world of conservatives and Christian values forever. And there isn't a one of you liberals who can refute a damn bit of it.
http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-105813-1.html -- & -- http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-105667-1.html

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Jun 19, 2017 20:25:59   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
oldroy wrote:
Your map surprised me in that I don't think people were using red and blue as indicators of which party you were talking about. It seems to me that we started using red and blue in 2000 when the Dems managed to lose the election. That was the one that they claimed had been stolen from them although plenty of proof had been provided for them.

I always get a kick out of the inventive ways you folks deny anything that doesn't fit into your fantasies. So yeah, lets try suggesting that the red and blue doesn't actually represent the electoral victories per state. Maybe it's... i dunno, the popularity of thin crust vs deep dish pizza... Yeah, that's the ticket! LOL.

I'm guessing you didn't do any research to prove me wrong... (or you did but in the process found out I was right, so just didn't say anything) Well, here's another map of the same election, this one includes a legend equating the color to the actual candidate.



Just in case you didn't know... Harding was the Republican candidate and Cox was the Democrat. ;)

Hey - at least you didn't resort to the "blah, blah, blah" meme like Mr. Bombastic did which is probably all he hears when topics get beyond the 3rd grade level. I'll give you a point for mentioning that the red/blue color scheme is a more recent development, which it is, but that doesn't mean you can't go back and represent the counts from 1920 using the red/blue color scheme, which they obviously did.

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Jun 19, 2017 20:59:04   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Man, you are such a self-righteous asshole. Had to get your digs in, didn't you? America DID NOT bring chaos to the middle east, you ignorant twit. Islamic terrorists did that, and are doing that. Muslims have been creating chaos for 1400 years.

Blade... You're wrong on a number counts here.

1. People have been creating chaos since the beginning of history, some of them were Muslims, some were Jews and some were Christians. It's bullshit to say all the chaos in the Middle East was caused by Muslims. Every major religion seems to have a share in being the declared motive for chaos and terror in that region of the world where all three of those religions originate.

2. America (and her allies) DID bring chaos to the Middle-East. Before we invaded Iraq for the selfish reasons that we did, Islamic terrorists did in fact exist but they were not elevated anywhere near the level they are now... The Baath governments in Syria and Iraq kept a lid on the tensions between Sunni and Shite extremes. Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq, toppled the Baath government and tried to install a puppet government in it's place... What followed could only be expected.

Blade_Runner wrote:

Now, you can wallow in your conspiratorial bullshit til hell freezes but it won't change the FACTS. 9/11 WAS NOT an inside job. For all their strengths and weaknesses, for all their flaws and the poor decisions they made, George Bush and Dick Cheney are not evil men. There is no way they would have, or could have, perpetrated such an evil thing. I don't care what you think you have as evidence, none of it is remotely plausible, I don't care how many questions you ask, they are all the wrong ones. But, go ahead, fool, give Islamic terrorists a pass, honor them for being such peace loving waifs, praise them for minding their own business, and just blame America.
br Now, you can wallow in your conspiratorial bul... (show quote)

You couldn't be any more obvious Blade... First of all, none of us really knows the real story behind 9/11. Bush and Cheney took months to edit the 9/11 commission report before releasing it. That doesn't PROVE anything but it's highly suspicious. And what makes you so certain that George and Dick aren't evil? I don't see you proving it. What I see is someone who is just flat out refusing to believe it. So of course it won't matter what evidence is presented - it will be fake... It won't matter how many questions are asked, they will be the wrong ones. That's just how denial is done.

BTW, I'm not saying 9/11 WAS an inside job, but there is no proof that it isn't either and honestly, it wouldn't surprise me.

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Jun 19, 2017 21:11:47   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Steve700 wrote:
We are responsible for the destabilization and what has happened in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Libya and our activities there, destabilizing everything, has been a factor in popularizing and aggravating Lebanon's Hezballa into terrorist war actions against Israel. I don't know what is wrong with you because it is totally common knowledge now, that we have been funding, supporting and supplying the jihadist. Touting these people as being moderates who want change, which is bull shit. In the Mideast it is the most organized and the most extreme leading those movements and those are not moderates that it will be, but those extremists that grab the reins of power when the government falls. This has been Obama's intentions as is portrayed by the pictures below. --- Didn't you notice that Obama was all happy when the Muslim brotherhood guy took over Egypt and started Islamizing it, and upset when the Army took him out because of his Islamization of the country. And don't you know that in Syria Assod was killing terrorists and protecting the Christians. And that it was those rebels who became ISIS and came out of Syria. There was no reason for Obama to tell Assad that he had to go other than to destabilize the country and turn it over to the Islamist Muslim brotherhood.

What a brain-dead response to suggest that I give Islamic terrorists a pass just because I know 9/11 was an inside job. (either in whole or part) Of course the questions I ask, to you are the wrong ones. The very questions themselves are an embarrassment to you because there is just simply is no other answer other than that 9/11 was an inside job. And there is something very wrong with you that you can't face the facts and remain rational and logical rather than running into denial and ignoring facts as if they didn't exist. I don't blame America. I blame the real ruling elite, the illuminati, globalist deep state or whatever you want to call it that has hijacked our government. Apparently your dumb ass doesn't even know that that even exists, or that we have been undergoing a slow motion coup by the Communist globalists for over 20 years. Read the following which as you will realize when you read it that it is most of the way to completion. This communist takeover of our country must occur first in order to acclimate us into the coming one world government.



IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES --- Thursday, January 10, 1963

At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS FOR THE OVERTHROW OF AMERICA The Vast Majority Of Which Have Already Been Fulfilled
1. U.S. Acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. Willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. As the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. As by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
We are responsible for the destabilization and wha... (show quote)


I take strong exception to your more "religious" rants, but I gotta say, at least you have some understanding of the role our government has played in geopolitics. But as you know people don't like to be wrong and the weaker people don't even have the courage to accept their errors... so there ya go.

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Jun 20, 2017 09:39:45   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Steve700 wrote:
Yes, my valued time. I am not here to argue or even debate, but to educate. In my old age I am on a mission to wake up as many as I can. It takes a lot of repetition before it begins to sink in and the real sick ones like you, know what's right but don't give a damn and have made the decision that being evil is okay because it pleases you/them, and their too lacking in wisdom and spiritual discernment to understand the consequences. You have aligned your self with evil my friend. Evil that dresses itself in the garb of fairness and equality with a perverted sense of justice. Take a look at my two latest articles that describe the evil and sickness of the Democratic Party and its useful idiots that assist in the goal of obtaining total power to enable them to rid the country and then the world of conservatives and Christian values forever. And there isn't a one of you liberals who can refute a damn bit of it.
http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-105813-1.html -- & -- http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-105667-1.html
Yes, my valued time. I am not here to argue or eve... (show quote)


No offense Steve, but you picked a real difficult place if you're trying to convert people from one ideology to another... and to further decrease your chances you keep referring to those you want to convert in a derogatory manner. Ideologies founded on faith are not transferable, there is no logical path. People get their ideologies from illogical places, usually very early in life before they mature and have a chance to think for themselves and it gets ingrained in their very existence. You should know... How many times have you refused an argument simply because you have faith the opposite is true?

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Jun 20, 2017 18:40:15   #
Ve'hoe
 
Yet its "your side" the leftists,, who engage in violence,, like Antifa, BLM, and the congressional assassin last week,,,,

Explain why you are too stupid to get that, the relation to your political views, the idiots who cannot discern rhetoric from dogma, and educated idiots like you, who try to blame their actions on others?????



working class stiff wrote:
My point was mainly about the rhetoric, not guns or ammo. The right wing engages is dehumanizing rhetoric about those with whom they disagree yet pretend they are oh, so logical. They conveniently forget their violent rhetoric about the last President. People like Ve'hoe, whose outrage is so selective, seem to have no clue about their own involvement in creating the political climate we live in. They wanted to put a noose around Obama but whine like infants at a modernized Julius Caeser.
I know that there are liberals and conservatives in both religions, but the rhetoric of the right wingers seems to toss in everyone who disagrees with them into the same pot.

And, just to toss another point, I'm often amused by that American right wingers do not see their fraternal relationship to the conservative jihadis and the rhetoric concerning God, guns, and ammo. I think it's just a matter of time before some of the more extremist elements of the right form their own version of ISIS. They have a lot in common.
My point was mainly about the rhetoric, not guns o... (show quote)

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Jun 20, 2017 18:43:03   #
Ve'hoe
 
Oh,,,, sorry......

Mr Bombastic wrote:
I think you may be replying to the wrong person. Do you believe that Liberals and Conservatives switched sides? Because that is what I was debunking.

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Jun 20, 2017 18:46:54   #
Ve'hoe
 
LOL,,,, you have history sooooo f'ed up,,, you are ridiculously stupid, but I think you actually believe your own bullshit


straightUp wrote:
I think you're just confusing political affiliation with deep rooted ideology. Your dead wrong Mr. B.... Deep rooted ideology has changed very little since the days of Tories and Whigs long before there even WAS a Democratic or Republican party.

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Jun 20, 2017 20:38:40   #
Steve700
 
straightUp wrote:
No offense Steve, but you picked a real difficult place if you're trying to convert people from one ideology to another... and to further decrease your chances you keep referring to those you want to convert in a derogatory manner. Ideologies founded on faith are not transferable, there is no logical path. People get their ideologies from illogical places, usually very early in life before they mature and have a chance to think for themselves and it gets ingrained in their very existence. You should know... How many times have you refused an argument simply because you have faith the opposite is true?
No offense Steve, but you picked a real difficult ... (show quote)

It's a nice change to see you talking some truth & common sense. It's hard to not become derogatory after repeated denials, insults and mockeries of me and what I make clear and obvious. --- Especially as time goes on, with liberalism becoming more left and more evil and hateful. And what they are most hateful of is Christian morality and standards of decency as they continue to be more accepting of evil, justifying it, and condemning the righteous, especially those who deal with it. Like the police hatred of Black Lives Matter, who never mentioned the horrific amount of black on black murderers and the fact the police are more likely to kill a white criminal --- And look at the hatred against Trump who has vowed to root out government corruption and restore America. The left is spiritually, ethically and morally sick and that is what their party has come to stand for while they still cloak themselves in the nobility of caring about fairness and equality.

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Jun 21, 2017 01:33:38   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
Yet its "your side" the leftists,, who engage in violence,, like Antifa, BLM, and the congressional assassin last week,,,,

Explain why you are too stupid to get that, the relation to your political views, the idiots who cannot discern rhetoric from dogma, and educated idiots like you, who try to blame their actions on others?????


Ve'hoe... Don't be such a moron. Organizations can't take responsibility for everything people do. Even a child can understand that. But if you want to play that stupid game...here's a fact... According to the Government Accountability Office of the United States, 73% of violent extremist incidents that resulted in deaths since September 12, 2001 were caused by right wing extremists groups.

So, who's the stupid shit now?

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Jun 21, 2017 01:58:43   #
Mr Bombastic
 
straightUp wrote:
Ve'hoe... Don't be such a moron. Organizations can't take responsibility for everything people do. Even a child can understand that. But if you want to play that stupid game...here's a fact... According to the Government Accountability Office of the United States, 73% of violent extremist incidents that resulted in deaths since September 12, 2001 were caused by right wing extremists groups.

So, who's the stupid shit now?


Bullshit.

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Jun 21, 2017 03:15:56   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Steve700 wrote:
It's a nice change to see you talking some truth & common sense.

It's not a change at all... The change is that for once you agree with the truth.

Steve700 wrote:

It's hard to not become derogatory after repeated denials, insults and mockeries of me and what I make clear and obvious.

Maybe if you weren't always trying to shove unproven crap in everyone's face. I've read enough of your rants to know that it's all based on blind faith... which is fine when you keep it to yourself or to share with other's like you, but when you try to force it on others as if it's fact, which is exactly what you do, expect ridicule. Especially from educated people who know better.

Steve700 wrote:

Especially as time goes on, with liberalism becoming more left and more evil and hateful. And what they are most hateful of is Christian morality and standards of decency as they continue to be more accepting of evil, justifying it, and condemning the righteous, especially those who deal with it.

Perfect example of what I am talking about. Baseless blabber. You don't provide any supporting data the way I do. For instance, I just responded to Ve'hoe with a stat from the Government Accountability Office of the United States... 73% of violent extremist incidents that resulted in deaths since September 12, 2001 were caused by right wing extremists groups. So the recorded accounts indicate the right is more violent than the left. That's not an opinion, it's a deduction based on reported facts.

Here's the report directly from the GAO, if your interested (which I doubt you are)
http://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf

In fact, according to an independent study by the New America Foundation, 48 Americans have been killed by right-wing extremists since 9/11... compared to only 26 by jihadists. So in the U.S. the American Right is a bigger threat than Muslim jihadists. Again... Not my opinion but a logical deduction based on reported facts.

Again if you want to check out the source, here it is...
https://www.newamerica.org/in-depth/terrorism-in-america/

Furthermore, Muslims jihadists ARE on the right. Just because Americans on the extreme right hate Muslims doesn't mean Muslims are leftists. The very definition of "the right" is the inclination to exclude people, where the left is more inclusive. You can nail any group this way... The right wants to exclude homosexuals, Jews, blacks and of course immigrants. The left doesn't have a problem with any of them because they are inclusive. It's no wonder the right is responsible for more violence and hatred than the left. Muslim extremists are also exclusive. Like you, they are religious and like you they are intolerant of secular, liberal culture.

Truth is... almost all the politically motivated hatred and violence in America comes from the right. Simply put...

Steve700 wrote:

Like the police hatred of Black Lives Matter

No such thing. BLM actually supports law enforcement, they just want the bad cops brought to justice and it takes a LOT of persistence to keep the spotlight on the bad cops and that can't be done without enraging white racists.

Steve700 wrote:

who never mentioned the horrific amount of black on black murderers

Trust me, black folks are well aware of the black on black murders. They don't need to be reminded every time BLM points to police brutality, no matter how much you think it excuses the behavior of murdering cops.

Steve700 wrote:

and the fact the police are more likely to kill a white criminal

Are you sure that's a fact? I don't think it is... I think you're just compelled to lie for the sake of accusation.

Steve700 wrote:

And look at the hatred against Trump who has vowed to root out government corruption and restore America.

That's what all the presidential candidates have been saying for decades, using different words of course, but it's the same basic message. You have to be a complete idiot to actually think it's something new. One of the many valid reasons for hating the pig is that unlike all the previous presidential promises to make America better, the promise trump made was 100% bullshit. The pig with false teeth, who plasters his face with makeup and dyes his ridiculous faggy hair is obsessed with his own image and the promise was aimed at the section of the American public that is known to be easily fooled.

Steve700 wrote:

The left is spiritually, ethically and morally sick and that is what their party has come to stand for while they still cloak themselves in the nobility of caring about fairness and equality.

Says you... the knower of nothing.

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Jun 21, 2017 03:17:45   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
Bullshit.

Did that incredibly intelligent response take up all three of the brain cells you have left? LOL

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Jun 21, 2017 03:45:50   #
Mr Bombastic
 
straightUp wrote:
Did that incredibly intelligent response take up all three of the brain cells you have left? LOL


Did that lame insult?

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