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Jun 14, 2017 19:08:16   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
what have you got to say now smart,,, excuse me, dumbass??

http://www.lifenews.com/2017/06/14/liberal-bernie-sanders-supporter-responsible-for-shooting-pro-life-congressman-steve-scalise/

this assassin, is you guys,,, sick twisted and hatefilled, plus stupid,,,



Yeah, yeah,....just like the link that I posted is you guys. Someone who is unable to think in nothing but huge generalities is in no position to call others stupid.

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Jun 14, 2017 19:11:05   #
Ve'hoe
 
Well, hang around, and I will post the liberal talking points this imbecile used to incite murder,,,
they are yours,,,, and many of the liberal assholes on this site,say the same things...... wonder why,
if you are all so deep and individual thinkers???

working class stiff wrote:
Not sure what that has to do with this topic, though I do notice that all liberals are being blamed for the action of one idiot in some of the other threads on OPP. It's the equivalent of me saying all conservatives are racist because some idiot went to NYC to hunt black folks.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/white-man-who-allegedly-went-nyc-hunt-black-men-says-n738751

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Jun 14, 2017 19:13:01   #
Ve'hoe
 
Exactly,, in my case,, but you and most libs,,, are definitely stupid,,, because you use the same verbal puke this moron did,, and you fed it to a weak minded liberal,, not a person with a conservatives morals,,,
and he attempted to murder,,

Fortunately, being a liberal, he never read the directions on how to shoot,, just thought he knew how,
"cuz him beez sthmart"


working class stiff wrote:
Yeah, yeah,....just like the link that I posted is you guys. Someone who is unable to think in nothing but huge generalities is in no position to call others stupid.

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Jun 14, 2017 21:24:34   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
working class stiff wrote:
I suppose the talk about what's the best ammo is just conservative small talk,eh? Although BLM and Muslims were mentioned directly, and we know those are leftists.

I think they were just talking about ammo... yeah, I know... this is OPP. Even so, I don't think liberals are as much a focus as just - ANYONE that fucks with them. I have two pieces, one for home defense and one for the range. That's pretty much it for me. I can't imagine shooting a person just for having a point of view and despite my frustrations with conservatives, I more often than not, feel obliged to help them. Our history is repeating cycle of conservative rage, over-steering and crashing while the liberal role in this seems to be the ones to pick them up, clean up the mess and try to protect them. it's like we're their fucking mothers.

One more thing... Muslims are not "on the left". Nor are Christians "on the right". There are Christians on the left (think RC, Unitarian, there's a list...) AND Christians on the right. There are also Muslims on the left and Muslims on the right. The Muslims on the right are the ones talking obsessively about guns, ammo and God. 'Pretty easy to pick 'em out.

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Jun 14, 2017 21:58:01   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
bahmer wrote:
I see where one post stated that BLM had aligned itself to jihadists is that the one that you are referring to? OK the BLM has not been to friendly to police officers and have openly attacked them but if you are trying to defend them good luck as you won't get much sympathy on here for your feelings as the majority on here support the police officers in this country.

I support the good police officers, even the ones that panic and fuck up. My feeling is that they have to deal with some hairy situations and if they can't handle it they need to be trained better. If they can, they need to be paid better. I don't support the bad police officers... they need to go. For those of you who are cops, I can understand the call for solidarity, but for those of you who are good cops, you KNOW what I'm saying.

I also support BLM as an organization. They do a lot of good work and no, they do NOT condone violence. Not all people are good, sometimes they resort to violence and SIDE STREAM Media... Garbage like "Brietbart" do whatever they can to make a story bigger so they tie every outbreak of violence with some aspect of "the other side". The BLM gets a lot of that crap because of the less than obvious cases where they defend black victims of police violence that the white-right tries to smear. It actually does happen.

bahmer wrote:

As far as the jihadists are concerned they are radical Muslims and no one can tell by looking at a group of Muslims which are the radical Muslims and which are not not even you can do that. So I guess that the tendency is to lump all Muslims together and until there is a better and more proven method that will have to do sorry.

And that's understandable. So long as we realize that protecting the innocent is more important than killing the guilty. So we can lump them together into a big demographic of innocent-until-proven-guilty Muslims... Sorry, until there is a way not to lump them together, that will have to do.

bahmer wrote:

One last thought and that is if the blacks would have obeyed the police and did as they were told the chances are they wouldn't have been shot and killed.

That's no guarantee. Too many bad cops have already proven that and you can't really tell the bad ones from the good ones, so I guess the tendency is to lump all the cops together... Ya know what I mean?

My advise to all innocent people when dealing with cops... do as your being told and if you're black, pray to God too.

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Jun 14, 2017 22:02:56   #
Ve'hoe
 
not true at all, "our" history, is one of democrat war after war after war,,,, and the "cannister and grape"
quote is of a democrat president who killed people who were rioting,,, (you figure out which one,,,
not my job to educate you)........

democrats started the civil war, by holding onto their slaves,,yeah I know, "they were right wing democrats"...... then the democrats started the KKK,,,,, and they started planned parenthood, and they started the tuskegee experiments,,,,,,,,

Just about everything bad has happened at the hands of democrats, reguardless of which skin you snakes try to shed,,, this week it is "progressive-ism",,,,,,

Funny,, that was what James Hodgkinson,,, was saying,,, same words, same sentiment,, ,, guess he had to "Be somebodies mother and "clean up" right?????

Funny how you all speak the same language of hatred,, isnt it???

straightUp wrote:
I think they were just talking about ammo... yeah, I know... this is OPP. Even so, I don't think liberals are as much a focus as just - ANYONE that fucks with them. I have two pieces, one for home defense and one for the range. That's pretty much it for me. I can't imagine shooting a person just for having a point of view and despite my frustrations with them, I more often than not, feel obliged to help them. Our history is repeating cycle of conservative rage, over-steering and crashing while the liberal role in this seems to be the ones to pick them up, clean up the mess and try to protect them. it's like we're their fucking mothers.

One more thing... Muslims are not "on the left". Nor are Christians "on the right". There are Christians on the left (think RC, Unitarian, there's a list...) AND Christians on the right. There are also Muslims on the left and Muslims on the right. The Muslims on the right are the ones talking obsessively about guns, ammo and God. 'Pretty easy to pick 'em out.
I think they were just talking about ammo... yeah,... (show quote)

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Jun 14, 2017 22:04:52   #
Ve'hoe
 
How do you determine good/bad cops???? Try to tell the truth about just one,, tell us what officer Darin Wilson actually did wrong????


straightUp wrote:
That's no guarantee. Too many bad cops have already proven that and you can't really tell the bad ones from the good ones, so I guess the tendency is to lump all the cops together... Ya know what I mean?

My advise to all innocent people when dealing with cops... do as your being told and if you're black, pray to God too.

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Jun 14, 2017 22:16:21   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
not true at all, "our" history, is one of democrat war after war after war,,,, and the "cannister and grape"
quote is of a democrat president who killed people who were rioting,,, (you figure out which one,,,
not my job to educate you)........

Thanks for the laugh. ;)

Ve'hoe wrote:

democrats started the civil war, by holding onto their slaves,,yeah I know, "they were right wing democrats"...... then the democrats started the KKK,,,,, and they started planned parenthood, and they started the tuskegee experiments,,,,,,,,

You're right... that WAS all right-wing Democrats. Just so you know, I wasn't talking about Democrats and Republicans... I was talking about liberals and conservatives. In the 19th century the right-wing Democrats WERE conservatives. The left-wing Republicans were liberals. It's not that hard to understand. If this was 1862, I would be as liberal as I am now, but voting Republican all the way.

Ve'hoe wrote:

Just about everything bad has happened at the hands of democrats, reguardless of which skin you snakes try to shed,,, this week it is "progressive-ism",,,,,,

Well, it's not surprising you suffer such delirium... You seem to think political parties are coded in our DNA. LOL

Ve'hoe wrote:

Funny,, that was what James Hodgkinson,,, was saying,,, same words, same sentiment,, ,, guess he had to "Be somebodies mother and "clean up" right?????

Funny how you all speak the same language of hatred,, isnt it???

I don't know who James Hodgkinson is. Was he as funny as you?

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Jun 14, 2017 22:58:00   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
How do you determine good/bad cops????

What part of "you can't really tell the bad ones from the good ones" do you not understand?

Ve'hoe wrote:

Try to tell the truth about just one,, tell us what officer Darin Wilson actually did wrong????

I don't KNOW the truth and YOU don't either. All we have is what was reported and based on what was reported through witness testimonies and the autopsy, the truth seems to be that Darin Wilson shot an unarmed 18-year old kid six times. You don't see anything wrong with that? I know this conflicts with the stories from the cops, but the autopsy doesn't lie. Six gunshot wounds. That's not the result of a level headed cop, that's the result of an emotional basket case. Darin Wilson looses credibility. Sorry.

This is one of the reasons behind a business idea I have, meeting with a VC about it next month. It's basically a web service and phone app for uploading video... value added stuff I can't disclose but one of the big sells is that it has the potential to increase the ability for communities to "watch" the cops.

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Jun 14, 2017 23:17:43   #
Mr Bombastic
 
straightUp wrote:
You're right... that WAS all right-wing Democrats. Just so you know, I wasn't talking about Democrats and Republicans... I was talking about liberals and conservatives. In the 19th century the right-wing Democrats WERE conservatives. The left-wing Republicans were liberals. It's not that hard to understand. If this was 1862, I would be as liberal as I am now, but voting Republican all the way.


That tired old myth again?

It is often repeated on Reddit that "Republicans and Democrats switched sides due to Richard Nixon and the Southern Strategy. Here's why that's false:

The ideological alignment of the parties was set in the early 20th century. Since then, Republicans have always been the more conservative party and Democrats the more progressive one. Ideologically, the more conservative wing of the GOP (Taft) won against the progressive wing (Roosevelt). The GOP ideologically was defined by people like Calvin Coolidge and Barry Goldwater far before the Civil Rights Act and the Southern Strategy. Similarly, the Democrats were ideologically defined by the legacies of Woodrow Wilson and FDR.

Liberalism and conservatism in the 1800s were drastically different from conservatism and liberalism of today. While it is true that Abraham Lincoln and the GOP in the 19th century were more "liberal" in the sense of supporting slave emancipation, the so-called "liberalism" today stems from progressivism which began in the early 20th century and is very different from 19th century liberalism in ideology. Similarly, conservatism today incorporates values from many sources including classical liberalism, and does not share the philisophical base as conservatism in the 19th century. There was no "switch" because what we consider "liberal" and "conservative" today are very different ideologies with different roots than in the 1800s.

In short, both the GOP and the Democratic Party formed their current identities in the early 20th century.

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Jun 15, 2017 01:13:49   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
straightUp wrote:
That's no guarantee. Too many bad cops have already proven that and you can't really tell the bad ones from the good ones, so I guess the tendency is to lump all the cops together... Ya know what I mean?

My advise to all innocent people when dealing with cops... do as your being told and if you're black, pray to God too.


I have been reading some of your posts today and find that you use the F word too many times for me to read all of what you have to say. For goodness sake, most progressives tend to do that especially when they try to argue.

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Jun 15, 2017 06:59:28   #
Ve'hoe
 
Really,,, I cant keep educating you,,,,, get your nose out of alinsky, and actually read something that will help you.

straightUp wrote:
I don't know who James Hodgkinson is. Was he as funny as you?

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Jun 15, 2017 07:07:31   #
Ve'hoe
 
Read much? apparently not... Hodgkinson was the perfectly normal, alinsky educated, liberal who tried to assassinate republican congressman.......... espousing the same old broken record leftist bullshit you did here.

I was actually in St Louis, when that happened,, we actually DO know what happened,,,,since there was a grand jury, replete with eyewitnesses, who changed their stories, lied, and perjured themselves.... other eyewitnesses,,, who were black, and actually told the truth told what happened.......

and the toddling miku bwown,,,, was a 6 ft 3 290lb felon, who attacked a cop,,, while trying to get his gun from him,, to kill him....... Isnt reading fun???? You should try it.

WE,,, you should stop using that word,,, it isnt "we" who dont know, it is you leftists idiots who dont know,,, but "WE" actually do know what happened....

Go back,, read, get out of the BLM propaganda,,,, and come back when you are actually educated,,,,, and not just in liberal talking points.......



straightUp wrote:
I don't KNOW the truth and YOU don't either. All we have is what was reported and based on what was reported through witness testimonies and the autopsy, the truth seems to be that Darin Wilson shot an unarmed 18-year old kid six times. You don't see anything wrong with that? I know this conflicts with the stories from the cops, but the autopsy doesn't lie. Six gunshot wounds. That's not the result of a level headed cop, that's the result of an emotional basket case. Darin Wilson looses credibility. Sorry.

This is one of the reasons behind a business idea I have, meeting with a VC about it next month. It's basically a web service and phone app for uploading video... value added stuff I can't disclose but one of the big sells is that it has the potential to increase the ability for communities to "watch" the cops.
I don't KNOW the truth and YOU don't either. All w... (show quote)

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Jun 15, 2017 07:11:15   #
Ve'hoe
 
Ahhh,, such authority,,, except, like most of your crap it is complete bullshit,,, same garbage that drove Hodgkinson, to murder in washington,,,,,,,,,,,

you leftists, dems or whatever you call yourselves today,,, are right out alinsky,,,, lie lie lie, deny deny deny,,,,, you relish the murders,,, and then come on TV and renounce them,,, giggling all the way...
ends justify your means.....

That is where your political ideology was formed,, in lies. The right was formed in truth.

Start there, educated idiot.

Mr Bombastic wrote:
That tired old myth again?

It is often repeated on Reddit that "Republicans and Democrats switched sides due to Richard Nixon and the Southern Strategy. Here's why that's false:

The ideological alignment of the parties was set in the early 20th century. Since then, Republicans have always been the more conservative party and Democrats the more progressive one. Ideologically, the more conservative wing of the GOP (Taft) won against the progressive wing (Roosevelt). The GOP ideologically was defined by people like Calvin Coolidge and Barry Goldwater far before the Civil Rights Act and the Southern Strategy. Similarly, the Democrats were ideologically defined by the legacies of Woodrow Wilson and FDR.

Liberalism and conservatism in the 1800s were drastically different from conservatism and liberalism of today. While it is true that Abraham Lincoln and the GOP in the 19th century were more "liberal" in the sense of supporting slave emancipation, the so-called "liberalism" today stems from progressivism which began in the early 20th century and is very different from 19th century liberalism in ideology. Similarly, conservatism today incorporates values from many sources including classical liberalism, and does not share the philisophical base as conservatism in the 19th century. There was no "switch" because what we consider "liberal" and "conservative" today are very different ideologies with different roots than in the 1800s.

In short, both the GOP and the Democratic Party formed their current identities in the early 20th century.
That tired old myth again? br br It is often repe... (show quote)

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Jun 15, 2017 07:17:42   #
Ve'hoe
 
"Looses" credibility????? Try loses,,, kind of like loser,,,,,

Cops dont need watching,,, I worked in St louis, lived downtown by the old Pruitt-Igo ruins,,, another liberal idea,,, to cage black people,,,,,, I saw first hand what democrats and liberalism do to people......

Besides,,, as a minority, I have seen what arrogant racists you libs are.... you cant fool me.

As well you conveniently leave out of "OUR" history, the stealing of my peoples land, and the genocide you fun loving dems/leftists meted out then.




straightUp wrote:
I don't KNOW the truth and YOU don't either. All we have is what was reported and based on what was reported through witness testimonies and the autopsy, the truth seems to be that Darin Wilson shot an unarmed 18-year old kid six times. You don't see anything wrong with that? I know this conflicts with the stories from the cops, but the autopsy doesn't lie. Six gunshot wounds. That's not the result of a level headed cop, that's the result of an emotional basket case. Darin Wilson looses credibility. Sorry.

This is one of the reasons behind a business idea I have, meeting with a VC about it next month. It's basically a web service and phone app for uploading video... value added stuff I can't disclose but one of the big sells is that it has the potential to increase the ability for communities to "watch" the cops.
I don't KNOW the truth and YOU don't either. All w... (show quote)

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