Mikeyavelli

A polite obamite.

Cmac

Not with it covered in the constitution no way that ass hole could ever get it done.plus it would have started another war to get it stopped so no way!!!

Bevos

So, WHY did they end the gun Registry? My information must have been from when they still had the ban on handguns!!

okie don

After seeing what just occurred in London with knife weilding terrorists, you intend to forbid this writer to defend my life and family?
Shame on you!!!
" SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" IS VERY CLEAR, IS IT NOT???

Unintended Consequences

Who said I was taking AWAY YOUR GUN? unless you are a terrorist, mentally unstable or are stalking someone, keep it for God's sake.

okie don

There are two(2) ways to get someone to do as you request:
1. Thru 'friendly persuasion ' eg may Imhave your wallet,car keys, jewelry etc
or
2. By FORCE
Being "armed" takes the 2nd method out of the equasion (:

Mikeyavelli

If someone wants to take my gun, they'll receive it empty pried out of my stiff hand.

okie don

10-4 Mike
an old Army Vt (:

Unintended Consequences

So who was selling all the BS about Obama wanting to take away your guns. Did you ever read his executive orders on the subject? Well here they are. This is from the National Conference of State Legislatures:
On Jan. 5, 2016, President Obama unveiled his new strategy to curb gun violence in America. His proposals focus on new background check requirements that will enhance the effectiveness of the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), and greater education and enforcement efforts of existing laws at the state level. As more information becomes available, this document will be updated. The 2015 plan:
Directs the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) to require any business that engages in the sale of guns to obtain a federal license to do so and conduct background checks.  This requirement applies to gun stores, sellers of guns at gun shows, and sellers of guns over the Internet. The licensing requirement applies to all sellers “engaged in the business” of selling guns, regardless of how frequent or how many sales there are. Failure to obtain a license to sell will carry criminal penalties of up to five years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000.  Failure to conduct a required background check will also carry penalties.
Requires the ATF Bureau to issue a rule requiring background checks for purchasers of certain dangerous firearms and other items who purchase them through a trust, corporation or other legal entity. It will also issue a rule clarifying that gun dealers/licensees who ship firearms have the responsibility to notify law enforcement if their guns are lost or stolen in transit.
Encourages greater communications between federal and state authorities on criminal history information. The Obama administration seeks to increase the dialog with states to ensure the background check system is as comprehensive as it can be.
Instructs the FBI to overhaul the background check system to make it more efficient and accurate. Improvements include increasing personnel by 50 percent, modernize NICS to allow for background checks to be processed 24/7 and permit better notification of state and local authorities when certain prohibited persons attempt to buy a gun.
Calls for increased funding to ATF for the hiring of 200 new ATF agents and investigators to help enforce existing gun laws. ATF is also directed to establish an Internet Investigation Center with dedicated personnel to track illegal online firearms trafficking. The plan dedicates $4 million to and additional personnel to enhance the National Integrated Ballistics Information Network.
Asks the attorney general to encourage federal U.S. attorneys to work with state and local authorities and groups to increase prevention of domestic violence and to prevent prohibited persons from obtaining firearms.
Proposes a $500 million investment to increase access to mental health care by increasing service capacity and the behavioral health workforce. The Department of Health and Human Services will finalize a rule removing legal barriers preventing states from reporting relevant information about people prohibited from possessing a gun for specific mental health reasons.
Requires inclusion of mental health information from the Social Security Administration (SSA) in the background check system about beneficiaries who are prohibited from possessing a firearm. To this end. SSA will issue a rule to ensure that this information is reported to NICS. This rule will also include a waiver provision available to people seeking relief from the federal prohibition on possessing a firearm because of mental health reasons. Further details will be available upon issuance of this rule.
Directs the departments of Defense, Justice and Homeland Security to conduct or sponsor research into gun safety technology that would reduce the likelihood of accidental discharge or unauthorized use of a firearm. Requires that a strategy for real-world deployment of this technology be prepared within 90 days.
Calls upon state attorneys general to focus resources on eliminating the most dangerous and impactful cases in illegal gun trafficking, and violent offenders who bypass the background check system and purchase guns illegally.
Removes certain legal barriers preventing states from reporting information to NICS. HHS has been directed to clarify through a rule that certain Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act covered entities are permitted to provide limited demographic and other necessary information about people with mental illness who are prohibited from possessing a firearm to the NICS.

AND DON'T TELL ME BLAH BLAH BLAH. That just means you were too lazy to read it or find your own source. AND DON'T TELL ME IT'S FAKE NEWS. that's the easy way to dismiss anything you don't want to hear.

okie don

yeah,
So I suppose all this push about our troops returning home not being able to be armed either.
If treated for a problem after leaving militay service.
We all know the shape Chicago's in with thee strictest gun laws in America.

Mikeyavelli

In other words, obama wanted our guns.

okie don

Yep,
As the saying goes " the camels nose is in the tent"(:
We've all heard about the ' boiling frog' routine.
One thing leads to another and next thing you know we a '*defenseless*' by the great PTB...

Bevos

You IMPLIED that Sandy Hook would not have happened if we did not allow mentally unstable beings to have guns? That Mentally unstable kid TOOK his Mother's guns. And I assume SHE was not mentally unstable when she applied for them. So WHAT is your point?
People, who INTEND to kill people, will get their hands on a gun, or OTHER weapon, regardless!!!

What we NEED are RELIABLE Psychiatrists to DOCTOR these mentally ill, not just someone that collects a huge fee for doing nothing, which is MAINLY what we have in the Psychological Dept. And when all of these kids, that ALL get a prize, grow up, and realize you DON'T really get a prize for just SHOWING UP, there is going to be a NEED FOR A LOT OF PSYCHIATRISTS!!!

Bevos

He ALSO signed an Arms Treaty in the UN to give them the authority to circumvent the 2nd Amendment!!!

Unintended Consequences

The Arms Trade Treaty has nothing to do with restricting the legal sale or ownership of guns within the United States. The aim of the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty is to combat the illicit international trade of arms by “tightening regulation of, and setting international standards for, the import, export and transfer of conventional weapons” in order to “close gaps in existing regional and national arms export control systems that allow weapons to pass onto the illicit market”: