Who Is Really Responsible For The Chemical Attack In Syria? #2
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May 23, 2017 14:21:20 #
emarine wrote:
Sure I can... but you still won't fess up to anyth... (show quote)
Watch the North Tower fall straight down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGAofwkAOlo It doesn't fall at an angle. It doesn't warp inward. The upper floors do not fall inside the lower floors. There is no resistance to the fall of the upper floors.
Since the lower 90 floors were solid and undamaged, Newton's Third Law states that there should have been an equal and opposite reaction. There was no opposite reaction at all since explosives were blowing those 90 floors to bits as fast as the upper section fell. Newton's Third Law also states that the 20 falling floors could not destroy more floors than the top section itself contained. In a gravity collapse such as you claim, there should have been 70 floors left standing.
May 23, 2017 14:30:51 #
emarine wrote:
I must ask you, E, when a truther has no intelligent answer or response to anything that challenges them, what sort of backward mentality would respond with truly grotesque photoshopped graphics or cartoonish clip art? p-1000 and S-700 obviously have a serious problem with this. This is a tactic of retarded children. These bizarre graphics are taking "Na na NA na na Nah" to a new level of imbecility.Sure I can... but you still won't fess up to anyth... (show quote)
May 23, 2017 14:31:55 #
payne1000 wrote:
I don't expect answers from those who cannot see . . .
Feast your eyes on this putz... you live in a Photoshop fantasy...
structural steel
Non structural steel
May 23, 2017 14:40:41 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
I must ask you, E, when a truther has no intelligent answer or response to anything that challenges them, what sort of backward mentality would respond with truly grotesque photoshopped graphics or cartoonish clip art? p-1000 and S-700 obviously have a serious problem with this. This is a tactic of retarded children. These bizarre graphics are taking "Na na NA na na Nah" to a new level of imbecility.
I find their creative side although childish one of their better attributes if not their only attributes... I think the number after their name is their bullshit indicator ...
May 23, 2017 14:42:48 #
payne1000 wrote:
It is a good thing for you that you are unaware of how freaking stupid these statements are. I wonder what would become of you if you ever realized how ignorant you truly are. Watch the North Tower fall straight down. https://... (show quote)
I'll give you an opportunity to redeem yourself. Show us where "Newton's Third Law also states that the 20 falling floors could not destroy more floors than the top section itself contained." Then explain how you managed to allude to Newton's 3rd law while at the same time shredding it.
May 23, 2017 14:46:42 #
emarine wrote:
Maybe, but my take is those numbers are the exponents on their negative IQs.I find their creative side although childish one of their better attributes if not their only attributes... I think the number after their name is their bullshit indicator ...
May 23, 2017 14:50:22 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
I must ask you, E, when a truther has no intelligent answer or response to anything that challenges them, what sort of backward mentality would respond with truly grotesque photoshopped graphics or cartoonish clip art? p-1000 and S-700 obviously have a serious problem with this. This is a tactic of retarded children. These bizarre graphics are taking "Na na NA na na Nah" to a new level of imbecility.
"I must ask you, E, when a truther has no intelligent answer or response to anything that challenges them,..." - blader
I must tell you, Blade, when people have no intelligent answers or responses to anything that challenges them, and is obvious, I will call them out on it.
BladeR, Emarine, and A Mad Jester; answer the facts presented in the videos, regarding the Middle East foreign policy, and the BS behind it.
911 enabled the escalation of the mess in the Middle East. It gave the reason/excuse for the invasion of Iraq, Libya and Syria.
“USA’s” Foreign Policy
USA Foreign Policy is CFR/CIA/NeoCON foreign policy.
The NWO globalists have had it covered using both parties:
This is what USA’s CFR Foreign Policy has created all over.
All for “protecting” human rights? Libya before; Syria, Iraq, Somalia and etc.
As always; follow the money
The Syrian War What You're Not Being Told
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkamZg68jpk
The road to WWIII by StormClowdsGathering.com
What's really going on in Syria? Let's look at the evidence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7L8bw5QF4
BTW; emarine just followed through with his post below!!!!
May 23, 2017 14:53:03 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
It is a good thing for you that you are unaware of how freaking stupid these statements are. I wonder what would become of you if you ever realized how ignorant you truly are.
I'll give you an opportunity to redeem yourself. Show us where "Newton's Third Law also states that the 20 falling floors could not destroy more floors than the top section itself contained." Then explain how you managed to allude to Newton's 3rd law while at the same time shredding it.
I'll give you an opportunity to redeem yourself. Show us where "Newton's Third Law also states that the 20 falling floors could not destroy more floors than the top section itself contained." Then explain how you managed to allude to Newton's 3rd law while at the same time shredding it.
BR... you don't know Newton's block law yet...
the putz & the block law
May 23, 2017 15:02:51 #
[quote=Blade_Runner]The weight of the concrete on one office area floor was 434 tons. The weight of concrete in one core area floor was 193 tons. The total weight of concrete on one tower floor was 627 tons. This is just the concrete, it does not include the weight of steel in the floors or that of the office contents. The average weight of one tower floor (everything) was 4500 tons.
To what purpose is your experiment with drywall sheets, duct tape and bags of cement? To what purpose is your experiment with a cardboard box and cement blocks? These experiments and your arguments to support them make no sense at all. None of these have any relationship to the design and construction of the twin towers. And, they are effectively defeating your original claim that the "super strong" structural steel was invincible. My sheetrock and interior wall strength demonstrations were directed at proving false emarine's theory that the floor slab trusses failed and the floors fell with such force and speed as to crush all the floors below. I proved that wall structures even of flimsy cardboard can support massive weight and remain standing even when 75 pounds of weight is dropped on them from a foot above.
If the steel structure was capable of supporting 2000% of the tower's static weight, what prompted you to argue for an additional element of structural strength that, in reality, did not exist? To show that Emarine's theory is totally impossible.
In the photo here, you have added what appears to be an integrated wall system throughout the office areas, complete with doors and such. Such a thing did not exist in the twin towers. The primary selling point of the twin towers was maximum rental space. Such an enclosed office system would defeat that purpose and was not necessary. Only in rare instances did more than one tenant occupy a single floor. In most cases a single tenant occupied multiple floors--Morgan Stanley, for instance, occupied 21 floors in the South Tower. Open concept was popular in the 1960s, not so much in 2001. Even on floors which still had open concept, there would be many half walls and whole walls where there were restrooms, executive offices, stockrooms and hallways around the center core. The floor slabs could not have gained any momentum if the outer floor truss connections failed as emarine falsely claims. None of the floors on either of the towers had fires which covered entire floors. So there could not have been total truss connection failure on any floor. This means no floor could fall except in the areas where the fires burned. Total floor collapse on any floor was impossible.
Building enclosed offices would add additional weight to each floor, they would reduce available space and curtail the efficiency of every day business communications and transactions, they would slow down considerably employee interactions, they would prevent direct contact between individual departments in the company. After all, it was the World Trade Center, the premier center of world finance. The highest percentage of tenants were engaged in the fast paced world of finance--bankers, investors, venture capitalists, traders, speculators, etc. The people involved in this certainly did not need or want to knock on office doors--"Got a minute?" The twin towers had turned out to be the twin albatrosses in the rental business. They contained asbestos insulation which would have cost billions to eradicate. Tenants were moving out. Zim Israel/American shipping was so desperate to leave the towers they moved out two weeks before the attacks, breaking their lease costing them $50,000. New tenants were hard to come by. Demolishing the towers conventionally would have cost them billions. They way they pulled it off made them billions in insurance payments.
Which leads to the question of why truthers are accusing those in the world of high finance--the bankers, investors, venture capitalists, traders, and government insiders--for plotting and killing the very hand that feeds them? Why would those with huge investments of time, energy and money in their dynamic businesses destroy the most advanced and efficient center of world finance in existence at the time? Check and see how many of the top executives showed up for work in the Twin Towers on 9/11. Larry Silverstein and his son and daughter didn't show up that day. Paul Bremer, who worked at Marsh & McLennon in the Twin Towers showed up at MSNBC News instead and explained to the viewers that Osama Bin Laden was behind the attacks.
Warren Buffet was putting on a charity golf tournament at Offuts AFB in Omaha on 9/11. This gave many of the top executives who worked in the towers an excuse not to be there during the fireworks. It's interesting that Bush stopped at Offuts on 9/11 while he was running scared around the country in Air Force One. It appears he didn't totally trust Cheney and Rumsfeld.
To what purpose is your experiment with drywall sheets, duct tape and bags of cement? To what purpose is your experiment with a cardboard box and cement blocks? These experiments and your arguments to support them make no sense at all. None of these have any relationship to the design and construction of the twin towers. And, they are effectively defeating your original claim that the "super strong" structural steel was invincible. My sheetrock and interior wall strength demonstrations were directed at proving false emarine's theory that the floor slab trusses failed and the floors fell with such force and speed as to crush all the floors below. I proved that wall structures even of flimsy cardboard can support massive weight and remain standing even when 75 pounds of weight is dropped on them from a foot above.
If the steel structure was capable of supporting 2000% of the tower's static weight, what prompted you to argue for an additional element of structural strength that, in reality, did not exist? To show that Emarine's theory is totally impossible.
In the photo here, you have added what appears to be an integrated wall system throughout the office areas, complete with doors and such. Such a thing did not exist in the twin towers. The primary selling point of the twin towers was maximum rental space. Such an enclosed office system would defeat that purpose and was not necessary. Only in rare instances did more than one tenant occupy a single floor. In most cases a single tenant occupied multiple floors--Morgan Stanley, for instance, occupied 21 floors in the South Tower. Open concept was popular in the 1960s, not so much in 2001. Even on floors which still had open concept, there would be many half walls and whole walls where there were restrooms, executive offices, stockrooms and hallways around the center core. The floor slabs could not have gained any momentum if the outer floor truss connections failed as emarine falsely claims. None of the floors on either of the towers had fires which covered entire floors. So there could not have been total truss connection failure on any floor. This means no floor could fall except in the areas where the fires burned. Total floor collapse on any floor was impossible.
Building enclosed offices would add additional weight to each floor, they would reduce available space and curtail the efficiency of every day business communications and transactions, they would slow down considerably employee interactions, they would prevent direct contact between individual departments in the company. After all, it was the World Trade Center, the premier center of world finance. The highest percentage of tenants were engaged in the fast paced world of finance--bankers, investors, venture capitalists, traders, speculators, etc. The people involved in this certainly did not need or want to knock on office doors--"Got a minute?" The twin towers had turned out to be the twin albatrosses in the rental business. They contained asbestos insulation which would have cost billions to eradicate. Tenants were moving out. Zim Israel/American shipping was so desperate to leave the towers they moved out two weeks before the attacks, breaking their lease costing them $50,000. New tenants were hard to come by. Demolishing the towers conventionally would have cost them billions. They way they pulled it off made them billions in insurance payments.
Which leads to the question of why truthers are accusing those in the world of high finance--the bankers, investors, venture capitalists, traders, and government insiders--for plotting and killing the very hand that feeds them? Why would those with huge investments of time, energy and money in their dynamic businesses destroy the most advanced and efficient center of world finance in existence at the time? Check and see how many of the top executives showed up for work in the Twin Towers on 9/11. Larry Silverstein and his son and daughter didn't show up that day. Paul Bremer, who worked at Marsh & McLennon in the Twin Towers showed up at MSNBC News instead and explained to the viewers that Osama Bin Laden was behind the attacks.
Warren Buffet was putting on a charity golf tournament at Offuts AFB in Omaha on 9/11. This gave many of the top executives who worked in the towers an excuse not to be there during the fireworks. It's interesting that Bush stopped at Offuts on 9/11 while he was running scared around the country in Air Force One. It appears he didn't totally trust Cheney and Rumsfeld.
May 23, 2017 15:06:52 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
I must ask you, E, when a truther has no intelligent answer or response to anything that challenges them, what sort of backward mentality would respond with truly grotesque photoshopped graphics or cartoonish clip art? p-1000 and S-700 obviously have a serious problem with this. This is a tactic of retarded children. These bizarre graphics are taking "Na na NA na na Nah" to a new level of imbecility.
Most of my graphics get a point across.
Please note the point I am making.
You must have missed it the first time.
May 23, 2017 15:07:40 #
emarine wrote:
BR... you don't know Newton's block law yet...
Show readers how one of those blocks can fall inside the one below it.
May 23, 2017 15:08:55 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
I must ask you, E, when a truther has no intelligent answer or response to anything that challenges them, what sort of backward mentality would respond with truly grotesque photoshopped graphics or cartoonish clip art? p-1000 and S-700 obviously have a serious problem with this. This is a tactic of retarded children. These bizarre graphics are taking "Na na NA na na Nah" to a new level of imbecility.
"I must ask you, E, when a truther has no intelligent answer or response to anything that challenges them,..." - blader
I must tell you, Blade, when people have no intelligent answers or responses to anything that challenges them, and is obvious, I will call them out on it.
BladeR, Emarine, and A Mad Jester; answer the facts presented in the videos, regarding the Middle East foreign policy, and the BS behind it.
911 enabled the escalation of the mess in the Middle East. It gave the reason/excuse for the invasion of Iraq, Libya and Syria.
“USA’s” Foreign Policy
USA Foreign Policy is CFR/CIA/NeoCON foreign policy.
The NWO globalists have had it covered using both parties:
This is what USA’s CFR Foreign Policy has created all over.
All for “protecting” human rights? Libya before; Syria, Iraq, Somalia and etc.
As always; follow the money
The Syrian War What You're Not Being Told
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkamZg68jpk
The road to WWIII by StormClowdsGathering.com
What's really going on in Syria? Let's look at the evidence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7L8bw5QF4
I must ask you, E, when a truther has no intelligent answer or response to anything that challenges them, what sort of backward mentality would respond with truly grotesque photoshopped graphics or cartoonish clip art? p-1000 and S-700 obviously have a serious problem with this. This is a tactic of retarded children. These bizarre graphics are taking "Na na NA na na Nah" to a new level of imbecility.
"I must ask you, E, when a truther has no intelligent answer or response to anything that challenges them,..." - blader
I must tell you, Blade, when people have no intelligent answers or responses to anything that challenges them, and is obvious, I will call them out on it.
BladeR, Emarine, and A Mad Jester; answer the facts presented in the videos, regarding the Middle East foreign policy, and the BS behind it.
911 enabled the escalation of the mess in the Middle East. It gave the reason/excuse for the invasion of Iraq, Libya and Syria.
“USA’s” Foreign Policy
USA Foreign Policy is CFR/CIA/NeoCON foreign policy.
The NWO globalists have had it covered using both parties:
This is what USA’s CFR Foreign Policy has created all over.
All for “protecting” human rights? Libya before; Syria, Iraq, Somalia and etc.
As always; follow the money
The Syrian War What You're Not Being Told
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkamZg68jpk
The road to WWIII by StormClowdsGathering.com
What's really going on in Syria? Let's look at the evidence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7L8bw5QF4
May 23, 2017 15:17:59 #
[quote=payne1000]
You quote...The floor slabs could not have gained any momentum if the outer floor truss connections failed as emarine falsely claims. ...The bottom cross section of the floor trusses was 2"... they were every 6 feet... so if 45000tons fell on an interior wall "sheetrock & thin studs" with a contact foot print of 2" every six feet... you feel this would support the load or even slow it down...get real... not going to happen on this planet putz...
Blade_Runner wrote:
The weight of the concrete on one office area floo... (show quote)
You quote...The floor slabs could not have gained any momentum if the outer floor truss connections failed as emarine falsely claims. ...The bottom cross section of the floor trusses was 2"... they were every 6 feet... so if 45000tons fell on an interior wall "sheetrock & thin studs" with a contact foot print of 2" every six feet... you feel this would support the load or even slow it down...get real... not going to happen on this planet putz...
May 23, 2017 15:19:48 #
emarine wrote:
Feast your eyes on this putz... you live in a Photoshop fantasy...
I found some more representative photos . . . ones not meant to deceive:
May 23, 2017 15:26:33 #
emarine wrote:
What part of the word "focus" do you not comprehend?... WTC towers demolition is the issue... save all other conjecture & hearsay for another post...
No it isn't. Where do you get that idea? Just because you guys are stuck on stupid debating one tiny aspect about whether or not 9/11 was an inside job does not mean that whether the towers were a planned demolition are not is the issue. Anyone with a brain who is not a totally naïve government believing nitwit, especially demolition experts, can see that that was a planned demolition, especially in view of that the twin towers were overbuilt and no other building has ever collapsed like that from a fire. Especially oxygen starved buyers that were localized to certain areas on vacant floors where the planes mysteriously happen to get.
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