JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

The poor have Medicaid. No one should be turned away from a hospital. Like wise I shouldn't be in the same insurance pool with someone who doesn't give a damn about their health. I have said before. I'm for private health insurance. Many things could be done to bring the cost down. If we are a compassionate people, which I think we are pre-existing conditions should be covered. I would let states form large pre-existing and indigent pools. Paid for by a consumption tax. That way everyone has skin in the game. I want all those who constantly say the government needs to cover everyone who can't afford it to pitch in. I ask again. Why isn't shelter, food, and transportation included? More importantly. Who pays?

EmilyStrode

I am blessed. Have been all my life. My personal and whole extended family are fine. No one out in the cold or needing government assistance of any sort. All, and me, can afford personal insurance. Then there is my neighbor and their neighbors who cannot. Decent people. Let them die for a tax break for the rich or a healthy benefit for our representatives in Congress. Priorities!

PeterS

Oh, you poor baby. Maybe you should move. I pay $900 a month with a $2,500 deductible. And here's the kicker, I have preexisting conditions up the ass...lymphoma, a heart condition, an aorta that can go at any moment, and neuropathy that has me gobbling over $2,000 a month in pain pills alone. The cost to cover me is why idiots like you have to pay such a astronomical amount!!!

PeterS

When did we stop having private insurance? And letting the states cover preexisting conditions--they already have indigent care--only means you would have to pay still higher taxes. You aren't getting out of anything and since the state is less efficient than private insurers you would guarantee that you would have to pay more then you do now...

PeterS

You are assuming that we have a moral responsibility for someone else. Since Reagan became president the paradigm has been--what's mine is mine, what's yours is yours, and everyone else can go fuk themselves--if someone is sick and doesn't have healthcare they can go to the emergency room or they can die. That's their choices...

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

You are pathetic.

And by the way, Sinclair Lewis was lying slob.

kenvrla Loc: East Tx Piney Woods

No one dies.in this country for.lack of health care. The hospitals have to treat anyone who needs it. When you folks who think legislated health care is a right can figure out how to pay for it, then I may listen. Bleeding-heart logic quit working for me many years ago.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

I'm a physician. No one has a right to my services just as no one has a right to the services of a plumber, electrician, teacher or the goods of a grocer, hardware store, etc. I do have a MORAL obligation to assist others in need or emergency but that stems from my relationship with God not my social contract.

If any liberals/progressives/socialists in this venue (are you there, PeterS, moldyoldy, CoolBreeze, DJRich, etc.?) think that everyone does have a right to my services & that of others in the health care field, please provide the reasons & please tell us your occupations. I will turn that around and argue that everyone has a right to your goods or services, especially if yours are government licensed.

waltmoreno

The constitutional rights contained in our constitution are God given. Are you telling me that God has given you a right to be healthy? Even if you smoke, drink, shoot drugs intravenously, have unprotected sex with multiple partners, etc.? Your health care is your own responsibility. You can take care of your health or you can abuse it.

People who think they have a right to health care are freeloaders. Plain and simple.

My exercise of all of the enumerated rights contained in the constitution don't take anything from everyone else. I can practice my religion, assemble, petition the government, keep and bear arms, be secure in my house and property, etc., etc. without taking anything from anyone else. As soon as you say you have the right to government health care you've taken a whole lot from a whole lot of different people. Which puts it in a category not covered by the God-given constitutional rights.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Go fuk yourself punk. You know nothing about the insurance market where I live. Except for the pain pills my father had the same problems you have. His private insurance and Medicare covered about everything. Instead of insulting me you should be thanking me. If I had my choice I would help cover someone that is pro American and has something of value to offer the country. Where have I ever said in any thread that people with your conditions shouldn't be covered? Your one pre-existing condition, stupidity can't be cured.

buffalo Loc: Texas

Cut the $500 BILLION in annual profits extracted from the US health CARE system by the private, for profit health INSURANCE corporations out. Stop the endless TRILLION $ illegal, unConstitutional, immoral US warmongering the MIC profits BILLIONS from and cut the $600 BILLION annual defense budget in half and the US would still be spending more on so-called defense than China and Russia combined. Tax investment transactions ans capital gains and make ALL: incomes subject to the FICA and Medicare tax. There would be more than enough to fund a single payer, universal Medicare for All system with enough revenue left to pay down on the national debt.

Nobody expects doctors, medical personnel or hospitals to dispense health CARE for free. But for it to be cost prohibitive to millions is immoral.

kenvrla Loc: East Tx Piney Woods

Well, that would work, except those things have scant chance of happening. I, too, don't think anyone should provide services.for free, and did not even infer that.(CL)

buffalo Loc: Texas

I know, but the goddamn shills for the private, for profit health INSURANCE and keep the government out of health CARE parrots bring the free shit and cost up every time someone whispers single payer Medicare for All. AND NEVER acknowledge the fact that their precious profiteering health INSURANCE corporations have already pushed the sickest and the frailest of US citizens, the elderly and the poor that generate by far the most in health CARE costs, onto the backs of the taxpayers, while they profit $500 BILLION annually from people like Florio paying them $1100/month in premiums and still have to cover the first $14,000 of any medical expenses EVERY YEAR, not knowing that with a single payer Medicare for All he could save half that premium and ALL of that ridiculous $14,000 deductible and STILL get the same quality medical CARE he might require. All a single payer Medicare for All system would do is re-allocate health CARE funding by cutting out the profiteering and high costs of administration, tax more incomes of the wealthy and spread risks over an immense pool, just like private, for profit health INSURANCE does now. Studies have shown that 95% of taxpayers would save money.

The scant chance of that happening is because, like the MIC, big pharma, big banking, i.e., corporations have control of the monkey politicians in DC and are entrentnched the deep state. Trump is turning out to be NO different than obammy, bushie II, slick willie et al.

kenvrla Loc: East Tx Piney Woods

About to go on Medicare later this year. Paid a small portion of wages into the program since 13 yrs. old. Medicare for all would work under right circumstances.Never enrolled in Ocare. Prefer to give Trump more time before judging. Get rid of ALL illegals and their freebies, and cost savings would make it a lot more doable.BUILD THE WALL AND DEPORT!

mouset783 Loc: Oklahoma

I just spent 4 days in the hospital and the bill was over $20,000.00. If that was questioned it would go along way to reduce health care costs. Actually that was what Medicare paid. I can't imagine what the real bill was.