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Apr 25, 2024 19:28:28   #
Lily wrote:
Here Are The 3 Most Shocking Discoveries Just Unsealed In Trump Classified Docs Case
From: Brianna Layman

Judge Aileen Cannon unsealed a trove of documents Monday that appear to reveal a coordinated effort within the Biden administration to target Donald Trump with political prosecution after he left office.

Special Counsel Jack Smith and other federal prosecutors in President Biden’s Department of Justice (DOJ) indicted Trump in June 2023 for allegedly mishandling classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago home. The indictment followed an unprecedented raid on a former president’s home the prior summer.

President Biden also retained classified documents after leaving the vice presidency. Yet he was not charged because prosecutors say they believed he would “present himself to the jury, as he did during our interview with him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory.”

Here are the three most shocking revelations in the lawfare case against Trump thanks to the newly unsealed documents, in part as pointed out by independent reporter Julie Kelly on X.

1. DOJ Threatened Lawyer’s Judicial Nomination

Jay Bratt, the special counsel’s lead prosecutor, allegedly threatened Trump staff member Walt Nauta’s attorney, Stanley Woodward, with sabotaging his judicial nomination to the Superior Court of the District of Columbia if he could not get Nauta to turn on Trump, according to a newly unsealed motion originally filed in June 2023. Nauta served in Trump’s White House and remained a personal aide to the president after he left office.

The motion requested D.C. District Chief Judge James Boasberg order the “disclosure of certain grand jury materials identified by counsel as likely to reflect misconduct by the government before the grand jury.”

During Woodward and Bratt’s first meeting, which took place two weeks after Mar-a-Lago was raided on August 24, 2022, Woodward “was led to a conference room where Mr. Bratt awaited with what appeared to be a folder containing information about Mr. Woodward,” according to the motion.

“Mr. Bratt thereupon told Mr. Woodward he didn’t consider him to be a ‘Trump lawyer,’ and he further said that he was aware that Mr. Woodward had been recommended to President Biden for an appointment to the Superior Court of the District of Columbia,” the motion continues. “Mr. Bratt followed up with words to the effect of ‘I wouldn’t want you to do anything to mess that up.’ Thereafter, Mr. Bratt advised Mr. Woodward that ‘one way or the other’ his client, Walt Nauta, would be giving up his lavish lifestyle of ‘private planes and golf clubs’ and he encouraged Mr. Woodward to persuade Mr. Nauta to cooperate with the government’s investigation (this was prior to the appointment of the Special Counsel).”

The motion argues Bratt’s “statement suggested a quid pro quo or even a threat intended to cause Mr. Woodward to persuade his client to cooperate with Mr. Bratt…Under such circumstances, it is appropriate for the Court to ease the secrecy protections typically afforded by Rule 6(e) so that it may determine if similar egregious behavior has made its way into this unprecedented investigation, particularly regarding the testimony of Mr. Nauta.”

The DOJ described the incident as follows: “Bratt also informed Woodward that the Government was interested in obtaining Nauta’s potential cooperation and resolving his situation.”

“At no point during the meeting did Woodward suggest that any of the prosecutors’ comments were improper,” the DOJ argued.

Woodward and his partner stated in a letter to Boasberg that their “representation of Mr. Nauta was not adversely impacted” by the alleged discussion and that they had not “complained about the statements in the August 24 meeting” but were bringing it to light after learning “the conduct exhibited in the August 24 meeting may not have been isolated.”

Smith also said the allegations were referred to the DOJ’s Office of Professional Responsibility at Bratt’s request before lamenting that the defense dared to accuse a government official of threatening a private citizen’s lawyer. Smith said it was “wholly without merit” for the defense to allege that Bratt — whom Smith noted had three decades worth of experience — would threaten Woodward with retaliation.

[b[2. White House Involved From The Start[/b]

Following Trump’s departure from office, the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) began “to work with the White House Office of Records Management on exaggerated claims related to records handling under the P**********l Records Act (PRA),” a motion to compel discovery from Trump’s attorney’s states.

NARA General Counsel Gary Stern sent a letter to Trump’s PRA “representatives” in May of 2021 in which he said he “had several conversations” with the White House’s Office of Records Management and had raised some “concerns,” presumably about the documents in question, with NARA Archivist David Ferriero, according to pictures of the new, less-redacted filing posted by Kelly.

Stern’s letter noted that “things were very chaotic, as they always are in the course of a one-term t***sition” and acknowledged t***sferring the documents would take “several more months,” according to the filing. Ferriero, however, said in June 2021 he was “out of patience,” dismissing “good-faith efforts by President Trump’s PRA representatives to address issues raised by NARA,” according to the filing.

The filing alleges Ferriero then “threatened” one of Trump’s PRA representatives in August that he was presuming that 24 “alleged — and non-existent” boxes of records were “destroyed” and that Ferriero would report his claims of missing documents to the White House and Department of Justice.

By September, Stern was sending around a letter “that we could consider sending to the Attorney General about missing Trump records,” according to the filing. Stern also sent an email admitting he “informally reached out to the DOJ counsel about this issue” and that “WH counsel is now also aware of the issue, and has asked that I keep them in the loop to the extent that we make any reference to [WH-ORM],” according to the filing.

The filing alleges that Deputy White House Counsel Jonathan Su asked one of Trump’s PRA representatives to permit an undisclosed individual to access “notes from the Trump administration relating to records handling.” The filing alleges that Su did not disclose that NARA “had already drafted a referral letter and contacted DOJ.”

3. Trump’s Security Clearance Retroactively Revoked

Biden’s Department of Energy also allegedly revoked Trump’s security clearance after Smith indicted Trump in June 2023, according to a 2024 motion to compel discovery from Trump’s lawyers posted on X by Kelly.

The Energy Department’s “Central Personnel Clearance Index and Clearance Action Tracking System ‘reflect[ed] an active Q clearance’ for President Trump,” the unredacted motion states, according to Kelly’s post.

The DOE’s assistant general counsel then “instructed that the relevant systems ‘be immediately amended’ and ‘promptly modified to reflect the terminated status of [President] Trump’s Q clearance,'” the filing states.

Trump “requested additional disclosures relating to the Energy Department’s determination and other security clearance issues” but the office allegedly “declined to provide any additional information.”

Judicial Watch announced Monday it filed a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the Department of Energy for records relating to the alleged termination of Trump’s security clearance.


This is why the media says Trump will persecute political enemies. He has learned the tactic from them. Turn about could be fair play.
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Funny thing is, Trump exposing them/their lies is really all it will take
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Apr 25, 2024 19:19:07   #
EmilyD wrote:
....and backwards....


And inside out.
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Apr 25, 2024 19:16:14   #
proud republican wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13349223/Trump-visits-New-York-construction-site-Supreme-Court-considers-hes-immune-prosecution-sits-hush-money-trial.html


EVERYONE knows these trials...all of them are show trials. When Donald Trump was elected in 2016 the Obama regime/Democrat-C*******t Party/American-Left refused the peaceful t******r of p***r...instead they tried to FRAME a sitting president/OVERTURN the results of the 2016 e******n with manufactured evidence from the Hillary campaign/UNSEAT a duly elected president. This i**********n attempt cost the American taxpayer upwards of $34 million dollars. THAT was an i**********n the Democrat-C*******t Party/American-Left/Obama regime could not only get behind but be proud of (fundamental t***sformation--no equal protection under the law/but selective, political prosecution. There was no real accountability...it would seem as long as the political target is Donald Trump/his supporters (they want to set an example of what happens when you shine a light on the DC swamp, in case someone else might get the idea of draining that slime.)
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Apr 24, 2024 07:18:14   #
proud republican wrote:
https://thefederalist.com/2024/04/23/8-gop-states-and-counting-ban-bidens-doj-from-intimidating-v**ers-at-2024-polls/

That is great idea...


This is astounding. Blatant e******n intimidation/interference...but then again, the Democrat-C*******t Party cannot win--unless they c***t.
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Apr 24, 2024 06:45:35   #
Lily wrote:


Sad, but true. Washington DC is more like a sewer than a swamp
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Apr 23, 2024 13:02:33   #
EmilyD wrote:
I hope not, but Biden is doing this… Ignoring Congress…( And our Constitution) by making his own laws.

So is our justice system (ignoring our Constitution).
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Unprecedented. How often have we heard that in connection with the ongoing lawfare/persecution of Donald Trump. Remember, what was done when Trump beat Hillary. There was no peaceful t***sfer power. The Obama regime/Hillary/Democrat-C*******t Party (DCP)/American-Left (A-L) did not like the results of the 2016 e******n...so they decided to do something about it. They blatantly tried to FRAME a sitting president/OVERTURN the results of the 2016 e******n/UNSEAT a duly elected president using manufactured evidence/lies from the Hillary campaign...in other words...an i**********n. Guess that's how the DCP/A-L can claim to know so much about i**********n...having already planned one. And even though that particular one failed, (it cost the American tax-payer upwards of $32 million dollars), it didn't slow the DCP/A-L down in the least. A compliant media is willing/eager to help try to shift the blame/falsely accuse others of what the DCP/A-L has been endlessly doing. Notice there was no real accountability for that attempted c**p...the DCP/A-L simply moved on to the next false charges/and then the next/and the next. Which fits right in with
Left-Wing Core Beliefs which are:
False Accusations
False Imprisonments
State Sanctioned Torture
State Sanctioned Murder
Most Americans have an innate sense of fairness...and ordinary Democrats, who may even h**e Trump, (Lord knows the DCP/A-L have stoked that hatred in "unprecedented" ways)...are even getting s**k of this onslaught of the AMERICAN GOVERNMENT targeting a citizen because he just might beat the incumbent in the upcoming e******n. All the while complaining bitterly that ANY criticism of the police-state tactics used by the Gestapo Joe regime to target his opponent is perfectly fine
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Apr 20, 2024 11:16:10   #
ACP45 wrote:
You say that's impossible. It's a contradiction of terms. And 'Yes', you are correct, and everyone realizes that.

So why is the American public, and a majority of it's elected officials pretending that the Fourth Amendment of the US Constitution is a square circle?

If you don't know what I am talking about, it is Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) that Congress is about to be reauthorized by Congress, but with an added new twist:

As Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) explains:

“If you have access to any communications, the government can force you to help it spy. That means anyone with access to a server, a wire, a cable box, a Wi-Fi router, a phone, or a computer. So think for a moment about the millions of Americans who work in buildings and offices in which communications are stored or pass through.

After all, every office building in America has data cables running through it. The people are not just the engineers who install, maintain, and repair our communications infrastructure; there are countless others who could be forced to help the government spy, including those who clean offices and guard buildings. If this provision is enacted, the government can deputize any of these people against their will, and force them in effect to become what amounts to an agent for Big Brother—for example, by forcing an employee to insert a USB thumb drive into a server at an office they clean or guard at night.

This could all happen without any oversight whatsoever: The FISA Court won't know about it, Congress won't know about it. Americans who are handed these directives will be forbidden from talking about it. Unless they can afford high-priced lawyers with security clearances who know their way around the FISA Court, they will have no recourse at all."

https://www.wyden.senate.gov/news/press-releases/wyden-urges-colleagues-to-reject-expanding-warrantless-fisa-702-surveillance

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/down-big-brother-warrantless-surveillance-makes-mockery-constitution
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Appalling!
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Apr 20, 2024 11:05:45   #
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I want to thank you all my friends and I mean every last mothers son and daughters of you for being here . I love this place for being open 24 hours every single day . The debates can get heated --The jokes can get raunchy and the memes are flat hilarious . Some of you are supportive of me others want to knock some sense into me or at least try . I don't mind and why really should I get bent out of shape ..--You are my friends .. This Coos Bay Tom saying I give a sh*t about all of you. One thing I do know about you all is that you are all in love with America .We may disagree but we will band together like wild dogs to fight for our country . You are Patriots every one ---looking to God as You perceive God to be. It is beautiful and it is all the same God . I have grown to love the people here --Right or wrong you all have something to say and I'll defend your right to speak . Don't let a day go by without telling your family -I Love You .and go to church any church or make up your own .--It is hard to make it to the positive side without some help .I wish you peace My peace I give you
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Thanks CBT. OPP is unique in many ways. Civil discussion has become rare these days. That makes it so much nicer to have it here. I am a died-in-the-wool Right-Wing Conservative...I always considered you to be an old-time liberal...and a gentleman. Have a good one.
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Apr 20, 2024 10:55:37   #
ACP45 wrote:
"...there is no point at all in the preservation of a Republican majority and GOP House Speaker. After all, the Washington GOP has become so infected with neocon warmongers and careerist pols who spend a lifetime basking in the imperial projects and pretensions of the world’s War Capital that apparently the best the House GOP caucus could do when it ejected the previous careerist deep stater from the Speaker’s chair was to tap the dim-witted nincompoop who currently occupies it.

The Republican party is thus truly beyond redemption. As JFK once said about the CIA, its needs to be splintered into a thousand pieces and swept into the dustbin of history."

https://davidstockman.substack.com/p/speaker-johnsons-ignominious-betrayal
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Ah for the "good old days" when we could expect Republican leadership to be spineless/self-serving opportunists...not Johnson, he's an activist who's learned to court the enemy/compromise with evil...his goal, (protecting the status-quo) will be to the detriment of the country. But more than a true RINO, happy to sell-out, er compromise with the Democrat-C*******t Party/American-Left, Johnson wants to maintain as much of that centralized governmental power as the swamp can produce...unchecked by any messy Constitutional rights like--individual liberties/freedom of speech. It's nauseating
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Apr 18, 2024 13:34:05   #
Forkbassman wrote:
Oh it’s alright, at least he doesn’t make mean tweets.


Wow. I was worried for a minute.
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Apr 18, 2024 13:02:07   #
Parky60 wrote:
One of the questions Christians have debated through the ages is, “What happens to people who die but have never heard of Jesus or the gospel?” The same question is asked about young children.

Personally, I believe those children are a separate category for which the Bible doesn’t really say much but provides a hint through David’s comment at the death of his son, “I shall go to him, but he will not return to me” (2 Samuel 12:23).

Regarding both categories, we should always remember what Abraham said to God, “Shall not the Judge of all the earth do what is just?” (Genesis 18:25).

However, the Bible does make it clear: “There is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). Salvation from our deserved punishment for sin is only possible through trusting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

But what if people haven’t heard?

God’s Word teaches that God has made it evident to all that he is the Creator: “For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse” (Romans 1:19–20).

We are told that all humans have a conscience: “They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts” (Romans 2:15).

Therefore, ALL humans know God exists. And if they want t***h, God will give it to them. “If you seek it like silver and search for it as for hidden treasures, then you will understand the fear of the Lord and find the knowledge of God” (Proverbs 2:4–5).

In 1 Kings 10:1, we read that the queen of Sheba came seeking t***h. “Now when the queen of Sheba heard of the fame of Solomon concerning the name of the Lord, she came to test him with hard questions.” She is just one example of someone in the Bible who sought t***h, and God gave it to her. It would seem from Matthew 12:42, when talking about the religious leaders who rejected him, Jesus refers to the queen of Sheba as an example of someone who was pagan but recognized the t***h of God.

Every human is without excuse. If they want light, God will give them light. That’s God’s sovereignty. But then there’s also our responsibility: “How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching? And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, ‘How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!’” (Romans 10:14–15).

That’s why we should always do all we can to obey the great commission given in Matthew 28.
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The general answer to your question is...the Millennium
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Apr 17, 2024 12:56:59   #
JFlorio wrote:
Can't wait. Have never seen a good progressive idea.


I believe you asked for "policies", not ideas. L*****ts need to avoid pointing to their policies. "Pie-in-the-sky ideas sound good...it's implementing those ideas...odd that L*****ts policies seem to always choose:
False Accusations
False Imprisonments
State Sanctioned Torture
State Sanctioned Murder
as their go-to choices for "fixing" problems like political dissent/individual liberty/freedom of speech. Heck, they're doing a bang-up job...150 MILLION innocent men/women/children all murdered by their very own Left-Wing/Utopian Governments...funny how L*****ts don't want to talk about these murderous/Left-Wing policies that lead to oppressive/murderous results
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Apr 14, 2024 10:48:24   #
fullspinzoo wrote:
https://thefederalist.com/2024/04/11/exclusive-8-ways-to-ensure-all-legitimate-v**es-get-counted-but-no-others/


The Democrat-C*******ts/American-Left are almost blatant...it's like everyone knows/takes for granted that they c***t/expect it.
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Apr 14, 2024 10:33:10   #
debeda wrote:
https://youtu.be/cebwDvKrfnw?si=dTJbrLJg4hwGaDxX

This man's story of his experiences in WWII as a pilot and his follow up commentary on the Depression and the current state of the world is riveting. He is smart, articulate and totally with it. Worth the time!


It was indeed worth the time/SHOULD be remembered...thanks debeda
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Apr 14, 2024 09:44:11   #
Capt-jack wrote:
It is a fact of life in our country today that there are people who live to be offended. They’re called Progressives. They are offended by Confederate statues and the Confederate F**g, by monuments that they say celebrate w***e s*******y and colonialism, by Trump supporters, by Trump himself, and by those who refuse to get on their knees and grovel before Black L***s M****r.

Well, I am not one of them, and I’ve got a big revelation for them.

Here are ten things for which I will never apologize.

1. I’m white I was born white and I don’t feel guilty about s***ery, segregation, the Trail of Tears or the treatment of Chinese railroad workers because (now get this) I didn’t have anything to do with any of these.

I’m no more responsible for these injustices than the Indian of today is responsible for the Black Hole of Calcutta.

The idea of racial guilt is absurd. White privilege and w***e s*******y is a myth. Where are the White Miss America Contest, White History Month and White Entertainment Television? Where are the white-only colleges and universities, white-only dating sites, or white-only bars and restaurants? Where are the quotas and set-asides for Caucasians?

Do we need to address these things? To some degree, yes, but not by r**ting, tearing down statues, l**ting and destroying businesses, and changing names of sports teams and products. We can and should address these things with civility and dialogue by all concerned.

2. I love America I believe in American exceptionalism. America pioneered representative government guided by a written constitution.

We fought a war with 620,000 dead to end s***ery. We defeated N**i Germany and Imperial Japan and liberated the death camps.

We saved Europe from tyranny, twice, in the 20th century and then, with American investment, innovation, resourcefulness and generosity, rebuilt the economies of 17 nations of Europe and the nation of Japan.

Our arms kept c*******m from conquering the world. Our factories and workshops produced a flood of inventions and products that benefited humanity.

We built the greatest most respected medical system in the world and earned more Nobel Prizes in Medicine than any other nation on earth by a factor of ten!

What country has done as much especially in 244 years, a relative hiccup in time?

3. I’m a Christian I love God and his son Jesus Christ. I am proud of my faith, but I do not wear it on my sleeve.

I respect all religions. I also believe in the State of Israel. Modern Israel is a miracle and a fulfillment of Biblical prophecy. Israel is a beleaguered outpost of civilization in a savage region and a bulwark against the forces of darkness.

The next time your physician gives you a shot of penicillin, look up who discovered this miracle drug.

4. My heroes include George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, and Teddy Roosevelt, Washington and Lincoln were indispensable men.

Washington defeated the greatest army on earth and led our country for the first quarter-century of its existence.

Lincoln saved the Union, abolished s***ery, and inspired generations with his rhetoric.

The Declaration of Independence flames with the eloquence of Thomas Jefferson, arguably the most intelligent man to ever serve as President of the United States.

Andrew Jackson, the hero of the Battle of New Orleans, represented the pioneer spirit.

Teddy Roosevelt led the charge into the 20th century, the American Century.

Together, they gave us a country so free that malcontents like Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib can dump on it without fear of reprisal.

Indeed, if you listen to all the complaints voiced by all the liberal/progressive democrats and c*******ts like NYC Mayor Bill De Blasio, you are hard-pressed to understand why there are so few people leaving our country! It is harder still to understand why, with all of our so-called problems, millions of people from around the world want to come here!

5. I support our Police, and I believe police officers are generally decent/honorable men and women who are doing a difficult, dangerous, often thankless job You couldn't pay me enough today to do it. Besides risking their lives every time they go to work, they bear the added burden of listening to insults shouted at them by spoiled, ungrateful people many of whom are wet behind their ears and probably still wearing diapers.

Police today have become the punching bag for the nation and, sadly, they receive little or no respect or support from their superiors and the gaggle of incompetent democrat mayors around the country. And, like our military, they are all that stands between us and the abyss.

When the Twin Towers were attacked in New York City on 9/11, we were reminded by liberals to not judge all Muslims by the actions of a few. Yet today, mobs are willing to judge all police by the actions of a few police. Explain that one to me.

Defunding the police because of a few "bad apples" is just plain STUPID because the end result will be more crime. If you find that difficult to comprehend, just check the crime statistics for these liberal democrat-controlled cities: New York, Chicago, Detroit, Minneapolis, Los Angeles, San Francisco, St. Louis, Newark, and Trenton, and check out the number of shootings and stabbings on any given weekend! You would think these cities are in a war zone.

6. I support the Second Amendment, and I own weapons It’s one of the reasons why Japan thought long and hard about attacking us. It’s a major reason why we’ll never have a Holocaust here. Europe has had the divine right of kings, religious persecution, C*******m and N**ism. We have the Second Amendment.

The anarchy in our streets, coupled with calls to defund the police, only serves to underscore the need for civilian gun ownership.

7. R********ns are racial plunder. The idea of racial guilt is an obscenity from the dark recesses of 19th-century European history There’s no group in the world that hasn’t been oppressed at some point in time.

Will Denmark pay r********ns to the English for the Danelaw? Will Mongols and Manchus compensate the Chinese? Will Japan compensate the Chinese for the Rape of Nanjing? How about the English and the Irish, the Mongols and the Russians, the Cossacks and Jews? Will bi-racial Barack Obama take money out of one pocket and put it in another?

8. There are only two g****rs. Deal with it G****r is determined at birth by your DNA. Just as you can’t change your DNA, you can’t change your sex. You should not be able to force others to participate in your fantasy. Reality isn’t h**eful.

9. I support President Trump and will v**e for him in November 2020 The president loves this country. He really does have Israel’s back. Who else is strong enough to stand up to China and Iran?

Unlike almost everyone else in Washington, as a businessman, he understands finance and the market economy.

He's giving us judges who deliberate instead of legislating. And he has the guts not to be liked.

Prior to C****-**, President Trump built the greatest most prosperous economy in the world and he gave power back to the people.

He understands that we are a people who happen to have a government, not the other way around, and this American experiment in which government derives its just power from the consent of the governed is still the most unique, treasured, and progressive form of government in the history of mankind.

10. You have a right to disagree with me, but you do not have a right to try to silence me Being offended doesn't trump the First Amendment.

Attacking statues and assaulting those with different values is the kind of thing we saw in N**i Germany and Stalin's Russia.

Generations of Americans died for freedom of speech, not freedom to suppress speech.

To say you're offended is merely an attempt to prioritize your feelings above everyone and everything else. It's not an argument, but a call to end discussion an admission of intellectual impotence.

Being offended isn't a mark of virtue; it's a sign that you're a big, blubbering baby who will throw a tantrum if you can't get your way. Wagging fingers and shouting obscenities at me is just plain disrespectful, and might get you a punch in the nose.

You have the right to be offended, just as I have the right to "Not give a s**t"
Capt Jack
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What you posted is good/common sense. Too bad it isn't all that common anymore
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