CDM wrote:
Attempting to stay on topic; gay rights; I cannot see what this post has to do with gay rights or frankly how it got so far afield as a religious debate except for the fact that people missed the hatred in it. What you posted is a perversely insane diatribe for religious rights . What 'gay rights' are you specifically alluding to? The right to exist; the right to breath the same air you do?
"They can be saved both by Jesus and the doctor?" Please enlighten us all; please share the science and medical data that demonstrates, no proves unquestionably and is widely accepted in the medical/psychiatric communities that there is medical treatment for 'gayness'. Where can I find this information? After hours of searching I have been unable to uncover any such science. Please share.
You contradict your initial premiss, without defining normal, saying that homosexuals don't want to be normal because it is 'becoming cool to be gay'. So which is it, a treatable disease or whimsical fancy? If it's just whimsical fancy to be 'cool' it's been cool in recorded history at least 3000 years before Christ.? Quite a tenacious trend, wouldn't you say?
On the other hand there is research published across the medical, psychological, psychiatric, archeological and anthropological disciplines of science going back many decades and empirical as it may be, it all seems to conclude that same sex attraction is prevalent in nature in a remarkable number of species. None of these research suggests medical a******lity as causal or treatable. It appears to be a natural phenomenon.
Again, if you can point me to the non-emperical, medical data proving curability, please do so.
I think Christians still believe God created man (and by association, woman) in his own image. In your simple mind I'm sure that means we look like him. I seriously doubt you consider the higher aspects of this seemingly simple proclamation; that perhaps man was created from a complex blueprint, a DNA image. If in that process he got a few c********es mixed up and got a few people stuck in the middle that's not for me to judge or fix. God, Allah or whichever God you believe in will make it right on Judgement Day; as with us all.
I am not gay. I am not a practicing Christian. I am thankful for my life, whoever gave it to me. I almost lost it in a war and learned that it is short and ultimately terminal anyway. There is no time for hatred, an emotion that sucks out life-force and contaminates and whither's all it touches.
To me you represent the best of hypocrisy; someone who hides under a mantel of Christian love and brotherhood to selectively persecute other men...all in the name of God...
Attempting to stay on topic; gay rights; I cannot ... (
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Well I'm sure when you don't know just jump into ranting like some one has injuredyou. But as to set the record straight you didn't look very hard for correct answers. So here is where some of my knowledge came from.
. try these resources and then while you are on the last site read the questions and answers on the far right side of this page and read about the actual treatments like testostrone and a******lities in the mothers womb that cause these things to go wrong. But on a personal note I actually have a family member who was told he had to many female horomones and only about 1/8 of the needed male testostrone needed to feel male urges like most men do. Well he declined the treatment, his thought was it is more fun to be gay, he is the female side of his partnership. Am I a Christian you bet I am. am I judging well only by the fruit that a persons life bears record of. So maybe a war can make you accept everything as acceptable just because you were scared & worried about family and all that is reasonable. But don't use the war as a reason to chicken out on right & wrong. So you think what you like about me & I'm sure you will. But you cannot make sin anything other than sin. People have to decide that Jesus Christ is the single most important thing in their life, and whether they do or not , you are right one day Jesus Christ will judge the world, and I am secure in my place with our Savior. But I welcome your comments even though you tried to be condescending. Look a little harder for real answers for I have had real life experience with a member of my own family on this issue.