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Mar 24, 2014 20:32:05   #
Jacky Loc: Alabama
 
I know that gay/lesbions think they are right in their own minds, but really I know everyone of them know the bible and know that what they are doing is against every word of God. They can be saved both by Jesus and the doctor. Look gays have a medical problem that can be fixed with the proper treatment, they don't want to be normal, because it is becoming cool to be gay. Nothing cool about going to hell. Where are all the christian associations and why are they not trying to stop the a*********n to God. Look stop legalizing the bad habit. Stop congress, stop president, stop groupies. You all know it is wrong.

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Mar 24, 2014 21:23:25   #
Ve'hoe
 
Hmmmm I am a believer,,,and a conservative,, and recently retired from the military,, and have met gays in all those areas, and agree with family values,,, but don't agree with you on this.......

If they can be treated,,, would you agree to treat them whether they want it or not??? What if they determine that your mindset is a sickness and can be cured,,, you don't want the law to be able to do that,,, some may "Want" it the way they have it,,,, and that IS their right,,,I fought for that like I fought for your rights. I cant stand by and watch one person be victimized to please the ideology of another,, and that includes what the Gay PACs are doing to the churches after winning the recent legal battles,,,

What exactly are gay people going to do to the institute of marriage,, that we "straights" AND "Christians" have not already done?


Jacky wrote:
I know that gay/lesbions think they are right in their own minds, but really I know everyone of them know the bible and know that what they are doing is against every word of God. They can be saved both by Jesus and the doctor. Look gays have a medical problem that can be fixed with the proper treatment, they don't want to be normal, because it is becoming cool to be gay. Nothing cool about going to hell. Where are all the christian associations and why are they not trying to stop the a*********n to God. Look stop legalizing the bad habit. Stop congress, stop president, stop groupies. You all know it is wrong.
I know that gay/lesbions think they are right in t... (show quote)

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Mar 24, 2014 21:53:49   #
bna42 Loc: Dixie
 
I just wish someone could show me where anyone has a "constitutional right" to marry. I don't understand why the Supreme Court whose only legitimate function is to decide the constitutionality of a law would allow this trampling on our founding documents. I also don't understand why every state that had a law prohibiting sodomy was told by activist federal judges that their laws were unconstitutional. What part of the constitution allows same-sex marriage and addresses sodomy? The federal government has never issued a marriage license and should have no influence on an issue that is completely a state issue. The Supreme Court has severely damaged its credibility by becoming involved in political issues that are NOT addressed by the constitution.

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Mar 24, 2014 23:26:12   #
Brian Devon
 
Jacky wrote:
I know that gay/lesbions think they are right in their own minds, but really I know everyone of them know the bible and know that what they are doing is against every word of God. They can be saved both by Jesus and the doctor. Look gays have a medical problem that can be fixed with the proper treatment, they don't want to be normal, because it is becoming cool to be gay. Nothing cool about going to hell. Where are all the christian associations and why are they not trying to stop the a*********n to God. Look stop legalizing the bad habit. Stop congress, stop president, stop groupies. You all know it is wrong.
I know that gay/lesbions think they are right in t... (show quote)




Jackie, I have mentioned this before. The demographic with the worst rate of HIV infection is gay males. Next on that list are heterosexuals. Very last on that list for HIV infection are gay females, otherwise known as lesbians.

God's chosen people are not really the Jews, it is Lesbians. They have by far the lowest rate of sexually t***smitted diseases.

Why? God is a typical male and is kind of intrigued by the idea of two women together (as are 95% of men).

If you show a racy picture of two women together, the average guy does not go, "ewwwwwwwwww, that's gross". If anything the response is the exact opposite.

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Mar 24, 2014 23:26:28   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
Hmmmm I am a believer,,,and a conservative,, and recently retired from the military,, and have met gays in all those areas, and agree with family values,,, but don't agree with you on this.......

If they can be treated,,, would you agree to treat them whether they want it or not??? What if they determine that your mindset is a sickness and can be cured,,, you don't want the law to be able to do that,,, some may "Want" it the way they have it,,,, and that IS their right,,,I fought for that like I fought for your rights. I cant stand by and watch one person be victimized to please the ideology of another,, and that includes what the Gay PACs are doing to the churches after winning the recent legal battles,,,

What exactly are gay people going to do to the institute of marriage,, that we "straights" AND "Christians" have not already done?
Hmmmm I am a believer,,,and a conservative,, and r... (show quote)

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Mar 24, 2014 23:28:04   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
Brian Devon wrote:
Jackie, I have mentioned this before. The demographic with the worst rate of HIV infection is gay males. Next on that list are heterosexuals. Very last on that list for HIV infection are gay females, otherwise known as lesbians.

God's chosen people are not really the Jews, it is Lesbians. They have by far the lowest rate of sexually t***smitted diseases.

Why? God is a typical male and is kind of intrigued by the idea of two women together (as are 95% of men).

If you show a racy picture of two women together, the average guy does not go, "ewwwwwwwwww, that's gross". If anything the response is the exact opposite.
Jackie, I have mentioned this before. The demograp... (show quote)

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Mar 24, 2014 23:41:07   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
PUKE!!
Alicia wrote:
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Mar 24, 2014 23:59:50   #
Brian Devon
 
rhomin57 wrote:
PUKE!!







Puke??? Not really, more likely "cuke".

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Mar 25, 2014 00:17:07   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
As a believer in Jesus Christ, you may be one of those fair-weather Christians. Maybe one of those 'submarine' Christians that surface only on Holiday SundaysJesus Christ states that "Because of their iniquities, He GAVE THEM UP to their iniquities..."

24 Wherefore God also **gave them up** to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the t***h of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature (someone with a dead soul) more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God **gave them up** unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. (Eve was the 'help-meet' for Adam meaning she was made for his body, and to help with doing the child bearing, and raising the children. This still stands!)
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, **God gave them over to a reprobate mind,** (meaning de-based, no foundation of life) to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, h**ers of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, **without natural affection,** implacable, unmerciful:
32 **Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.**

How can you, late in life, decide that God's Word should bend, especially when it states they are worthy of death? You should be helping them to release this curse that God gave them up to, not helping them into spiritual death.
Ve'hoe wrote:
Hmmmm I am a believer,,,and a conservative,, and recently retired from the military,, and have met gays in all those areas, and agree with family values,,, but don't agree with you on this.......

If they can be treated,,, would you agree to treat them whether they want it or not??? What if they determine that your mindset is a sickness and can be cured,,, you don't want the law to be able to do that,,, some may "Want" it the way they have it,,,, and that IS their right,,,I fought for that like I fought for your rights. I cant stand by and watch one person be victimized to please the ideology of another,, and that includes what the Gay PACs are doing to the churches after winning the recent legal battles,,,

What exactly are gay people going to do to the institute of marriage,, that we "straights" AND "Christians" have not already done?
Hmmmm I am a believer,,,and a conservative,, and r... (show quote)

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Mar 25, 2014 03:36:14   #
Steve700
 
Also Gay Marriage is wrong as the biggest problem in America today is fatherless children as that is a recipe for criminality. Therefor Marriage is Sacred & let me be blunt - You don't defile Marriage by using it to SANTIFY BUT FUCKING.

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Mar 25, 2014 04:02:56   #
Steve700
 
bna42 wrote:
I just wish someone could show me where anyone has a "constitutional right" to marry. I don't understand why the Supreme Court whose only legitimate function is to decide the constitutionality of a law would allow this trampling on our founding documents. I also don't understand why every state that had a law prohibiting sodomy was told by activist federal judges that their laws were unconstitutional. What part of the constitution allows same-sex marriage and addresses sodomy? The federal government has never issued a marriage license and should have no influence on an issue that is completely a state issue. The Supreme Court has severely damaged its credibility by becoming involved in political issues that are NOT addressed by the constitution.
I just wish someone could show me where anyone has... (show quote)

As our C*******t Muslim President ( & he is that -See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGmZ0fhH5fM (10 minutes) & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9BxNOF_UaE (3 MINUTES) ) has said the constitution doesn't say what gov is to do for you but rather what gov CAN'T do to you & he should know since he became a constitutional lawyer so he would know how to defeat it.

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Mar 25, 2014 04:32:06   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
Steve700 wrote:
Also Gay Marriage is wrong as the biggest problem in America today is fatherless children as that is a recipe for criminality. Therefor Marriage is Sacred & let me be blunt - You don't defile Marriage by using it to SANTIFY BUT FUCKING.

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Can you think of a better way to reduce the problem of fatherless children? L**T marriages don't produce any.

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Mar 25, 2014 05:30:02   #
Ve'hoe
 
Sodomy: is convered under the 4th amendment:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, "[1],,, which is also the only point we have to fight against encroachment of the 2nd amendment,,, you cherry pick good rights and bad,,

There is no "constitutional" right to marry,,,, and there shouldn't be,,,, that is not the business of the feds

The supreme court is out of control and should be put down.

In no place, either in what you nor I wrote, is increased Govt power and control the answer, it will backfire.


bna42 wrote:
I just wish someone could show me where anyone has a "constitutional right" to marry. I don't understand why the Supreme Court whose only legitimate function is to decide the constitutionality of a law would allow this trampling on our founding documents. I also don't understand why every state that had a law prohibiting sodomy was told by activist federal judges that their laws were unconstitutional. What part of the constitution allows same-sex marriage and addresses sodomy? The federal government has never issued a marriage license and should have no influence on an issue that is completely a state issue. The Supreme Court has severely damaged its credibility by becoming involved in political issues that are NOT addressed by the constitution.
I just wish someone could show me where anyone has... (show quote)

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Mar 25, 2014 05:31:32   #
Ve'hoe
 
Shut up.,.STFU.... god,, What I really cannot stand about you is that you were a Dr,,,, and are this damn stupid....


Brian Devon wrote:
Jackie, I have mentioned this before. The demographic with the worst rate of HIV infection is gay males. Next on that list are heterosexuals. Very last on that list for HIV infection are gay females, otherwise known as lesbians.

God's chosen people are not really the Jews, it is Lesbians. They have by far the lowest rate of sexually t***smitted diseases.

Why? God is a typical male and is kind of intrigued by the idea of two women together (as are 95% of men).

If you show a racy picture of two women together, the average guy does not go, "ewwwwwwwwww, that's gross". If anything the response is the exact opposite.
Jackie, I have mentioned this before. The demograp... (show quote)

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Mar 25, 2014 05:44:51   #
Ve'hoe
 
No,,,Sister in God,,, you should know by now, that there is NOT a better Christian, for a dark night, when it comes to arms, k*****g, and death. Which "I" have already done,,,

In those "dark times" yes, I believe my prayers go straight to the top... and I get answers..

Gays have been around,,, forever. ALL SIN is exactly the same!! With the possible exception of child abuse, which the Christ issued his only threat against.

I thought like you, and I was convicted, but I still did not know the way. Like I have said, before, strangely enough, I pray with a Sioux Medicine man, in a sweat lodge, and I attend church when I find one that actually teaches the gospel, not politics of this world. I have prayed and thought extremely hard on this.

The Christ said, the church is a hospital and he the Dr.
If SIN is mans "dis-ease" what better place for the afflicted, than the hospital of God,, with the rest of us sinners?

To be sure, we are having NO Effect on them,,, give them over to God. If he wants them changed, he will change them. That is how it was done to me, and you,,, why should we convert by the sword?? Especially, when the one who wields that sword, will be ME, not you? I have seen enough blood.

When I pray,,, I still my mind,,,, and that is incredibly hard, and I listen for the word of God,,,,I listen,,,, I don't "cut him off" and insert what I think, "OUGHT TO HAPPEN".... there is no way for a creation, to "Help" god, get to the GD!! Point,,, he will get there in his time, and doesn't seek me out to write the operations nor execution order.

If God, tells me to attack,,, woe be to the target,,, but no pastor, no other Christian, and certainly no govt asshole has that power over me.

The ONLY thing we can all agree on, that IF this is a problem, then the Govt is NOT the entity to "remedy" it,,, that is, if there is anything you can point out to me, that the Govt has actually done right, except take our money and usurp power.

rhomin57 wrote:
As a believer in Jesus Christ, you may be one of those fair-weather Christians. Maybe one of those 'submarine' Christians that surface only on Holiday SundaysJesus Christ states that "Because of their iniquities, He GAVE THEM UP to their iniquities..."

24 Wherefore God also **gave them up** to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the t***h of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature (someone with a dead soul) more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God **gave them up** unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. (Eve was the 'help-meet' for Adam meaning she was made for his body, and to help with doing the child bearing, and raising the children. This still stands!)
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, **God gave them over to a reprobate mind,** (meaning de-based, no foundation of life) to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, h**ers of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, **without natural affection,** implacable, unmerciful:
32 **Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.**

How can you, late in life, decide that God's Word should bend, especially when it states they are worthy of death? You should be helping them to release this curse that God gave them up to, not helping them into spiritual death.
As a believer in Jesus Christ, you may be one of t... (show quote)

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