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Apr 23, 2014 13:40:26   #
I got my numbers from a new report showing IRS employees who were not paying their taxes were still getting bonuses on top of their salary's. Unless you retired yesterday I'm sure drunken sailor spender Obama has given them big raises.
bmac32 wrote:
http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=U.S._Internal_Revenue_Service_%28IRS%29/Salary

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/wp/2013/04/09/despite-salary-rate-freeze-average-federal-salary-rises/

That $150,000 may include benefits as well. My last year of working was $49,xxx but with benefits it was about $88,xxx.
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Apr 23, 2014 13:34:15   #
Special task force gee lets make it bisexual oh I mean bipartisan. Maybe hire some more people so the government will be investigating the government. What a dumb ass. Where did you come up with the name Constitutional Libertarian you are neither I know I'm both.
Constitutional libertarian wrote:
Can we have a real discussion about this without a he did she did tirade, only ok here we are and how do we get to where we not want to be but must be.

And no let's be honest this will not include whole sale elimination of departments and agencies but will include a special task force whose sole purpose will be to root out an eliminate waste, corruption and make programs accountable to specific goals.

We have millions of people who have earned their entitlements through civil service, the military and plan old paying into social security for their entire lives. Our obligations to these people must met Period !

It's time we made the gov responsible to all Americans not just the ultra rich or the disenfranchised.

If we don't there won't be anything but the disenfranchised.
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Apr 23, 2014 09:31:04   #
50% of American HOUSEHOLDS! bring home less than $50,000 a year. While the average IRS employees wages of $150,000 is three times the average household income of American families $50,500. Why is this? So they will continue to support the Big Government that butters their bread. They are the US Pollitt Bureau. The US has been a C*******t country sense the c**p in 63 and the media is paid well to paint a different picture. Thank God your time is up. Tens of millions of Americans are waking up thanks to information technology.

You want to end poverty in America? Cut all government wages to the American household average. Most government gravy trainers will be insulted and quit. There are tens of millions of hungry Americans that would be grateful to take there place. Why should any government employee make more than the people they are working for and that includes all levels of employees including Senators and Congressmen. They should be there because they want to serve not be served.

We are entering a new age of technology and accountability and there will be no tolerating blood sucking c*******t pigs.

I don't expect this to get proper exposure admin. This one is for you.
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Apr 14, 2014 10:59:48   #
Have you seen the video of a S.W.A.T. team raiding a house looking for a woman who could not pay her student loan. They are out of control and it is with a green light from Washington and the media that covers for them. They should all be in prison. It starts at home know your local Sheriff and know if they are going to protect your right to due process. If not get them out of office.
BearK wrote:
The article below has a story that sounds like the IRS, they're going after a woman who was 4 years old when her father died. The IRS is now claiming they overpaid a family member so now 37 yrs later she owes the money. WHAT NEXT!

Uncle Sam Going After Taxpayers for Their Parents’ Decades-Old Debts

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2014/04/13/irs-seizing-tax-refunds-of-children-grandchildren-over-parents-decadesold-debts-n1823960
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Apr 14, 2014 07:37:02   #
I don't believe my friends and family members who consider themselves liberal have any idea who the people are that they are supporting and protecting. It is time to step up and go to extremes to get them to wake up. They have been programed to run from responsibility or shutdown if cornered. The doctor used to slap a baby's butt to shock life into them we need to shock some life into liberal brains.

At least 90% of the budget and agencies exist for one purpose. Bankrupt our nation and ens***e us. It is easy math help them out.

http://www.usa.gov/directory/federal/C.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_United_States_federal_budget - page down to spending by agency
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Apr 8, 2014 09:10:20   #
The world outside our Truman Show is in a dynamic state. Forces of good and evil are expanding at an alarming rate. Something is about to happen and sense our pop culture president likes to lead from behind that may not fair well for us. He is just one of many pawns on the world game board. Demand that your Governors act to defend the citizens of your State against any onslaught of Federal, UN, INTERPOL police action that may result. As a safeguard citizens need to work with their States and form a well organized m*****a. Our Government was designed to defend against but not cause or advance war on other nations. Defense starts at your front door and expands to the borders of our nation governed by law. Please be on guard and pray for peace. And if it turns out for naught what a blessing that would be for us to have worked together for the first time in a long time for our mutual well being.
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Apr 6, 2014 07:27:49   #
Am I to deduce from your put down that our founding fathers were mentally ill?
Brian Devon wrote:
Does your family know you have a narcissistic personality disorder? You are probably a source of much worry to them, especially with your build-your-own-planet basement project. Have you ever thought of making a return visit to planet earth??? Do you even care about your family's worries? Advocating a treasonous military c**p d'etat is not the best sign of mental health.
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Apr 6, 2014 07:13:03   #
The beautiful thing about being a libertarian is you have the foundation and security of law and order yet are free to do and be what ever you choose.

Sense liberals have no foundation they are in a perpetual identity crises and start throwing labels at everything and everyone they don't understand. Because I don't fit in the box of either or I have been called and labeled just about everything I am not. Liberals are lost people we need to find a way to help them before they do something rash. You need to take a loving and caring approach to their problem and if that does not work let them know you are there for them and you understand.
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Mar 28, 2014 07:47:33   #
Alicia you are a certified wing nut. Here is a little contemporary history to help you out.
Wing nuts start spinning now.
The political clowns on the poster are like thousands of others that were supposed to represent "the people", "workers", the "little people", the Common man", the "underprivileged", would k**l their mother to carry out the bidding of the Progressive movement. What are they progressing to? That would be UN Agenda 21. It is the result of slow but ever growing culture of evil that is progressing toward control of the World. Over two hundred years ago a European banking family of unimaginable wealth found they could take over countries by loaning the government money then bankrupting them. They have been playing the world like a board game every sense. This same family currently owns half the wealth in the world.. They are the prime mover of the FED and all of the World’s Central Banks. One of their granddames said on her death bed “if my sons did not want war there would be no war”. Much of the misguided hatred for Jews over the ages can be directly traced to this family that owns 80% of Israel and are no more Jewish than my cat. They use it as a shield like radical Muslims use schools to hide in. A family quote regarding the value of Israel “the life of a cow in Israel is worth more than the life of a million Jews in Poland”. Their current piss boy representative for progressivism is George Soros who has openly bragged about collapsing the economy of four nations and bring them to their knees one of which was Great Britten. That interview was several years ago his attention sense has turned to the United States. He and his junk bond derivative buddy Warren Buffett along with the drunken sailor spending progressives are about to declare victory in the US. For hundreds of years they have been starting wars for their own amusement backing both sides (Yes they backed both Hitler and Churchill) assuring victory and reducing the population to insure their continued control. The South in the Civil War was backed by Great Brittan and in desperation Lincoln asked this family for a loan. They agreed to lend the money but at an interest rate of 28 to 35%. Lincoln did not take the loan and started Americas own currency called Green Backs. For this he was k**led. JFK wanted to end the FED and started producing Silver Certificates and for this and other patriotic efforts he was involved in he was k**led.
The Real State of the Union - Product of the Progressives
Our Military is spread thin all over the world. Easy targets to be completely wiped out. Which side of Allah are we fighting for this week? Obama is wanted by the current military controlled government of Egypt on war crimes for backing the Muslim Brotherhood. The MB was started by the N**is. Hillary backed the Al-Qaeda led takeover of Libya. Our economy is on the verge of collapse. Show me an economist with any integrity that says we are not. Or just do the easy math and look around you. Several domestic government agencies’ that did not exist before 911 are armed to the teeth and at the ready to attack US citizens. HSA alone has 6 rounds for every man woman and child in America. What the hell are these agencies for? More people die from sleep apnea than terrorist in the US. The Department Education now has employed S.W.A.T. teams for bill collecting on student loans. Excuse me are there now debtors prisons in America. I wish I could make this stuff up. Our well armed citizens can do just fine keeping things secure in our communities if everyone follows the rule of law and due process. Even the IRS is now armed and dangerous. Bring our troop’s home we are going to need them here.
Progressives track record:
Woodrow Wilson - IRS, FED, 16th Amendment, segregated the Army, got us into WW1, taxes went to 75%. Wow! What a guy. He did apologize to the American people on his death bed.
FDR - Social Security (money has been stolen, Clinton started calling it revenue), massive socialist expansion of Federal Government prolonging the depression, cut off supplies to Japan provoking them to attack us to draw us into WW2
Truman - Dropped two atomic bombs on Japan after 5 of our top Generals said it was not necessary. Started the whole Mideast mess by creating Israel. (80% owned by the family mentioned above), should have taken Churchill's advice and prevented the cold war. Created the CIA, there mere existence flies in the face of the Constitution. Opened the door for the NSA the domestic version.
Johnson - First act as president (on the plane from Dallas) signed an executive order overturning Kennedy's executive order creating a US currency to end dependence on the FED, before Kennedy was in the ground called a meeting to start the Viet Nam war, expanded the Federal Government with massive socialist programs.
Nixon - Expanded the Viet Nam War, Four Dead In Ohio, and Christmas bombing of Cambodia.
Carter – Massive expansion of the Federal Government. Created the Department of Education accelerating the progressive dumbing down and revisionist history of America. He was a complete embarrassment when he left office, 20% prime rate, too much to cover here but when rating worst Presidents I would rank him sixth after Obama, Wilson, Bush 2, Billary and Bush 1.
Reagan – Opened the door for INTERPOL, while waving the f**g US industries were being bought out and closed down at an alarming rate with leverage buyouts. Workers were losing pensions as if they never existed. Still not sure about Reagan he may have been asleep at the wheel.
Bush 1 – New World Order man, First President to openly commit treason by signing UN Agenda 21 giving our sovereignty to the UN. All piss boy Presidents after Bush 1 have signed on as well.
Clintons – Often called Billary made the first attempt at National Health Care. Progressives realized they would have to spend a lot more money on political whores and propagandist before they could make another attempt. Very important to their project of depopulation because after Korea and Viet Nam it was getting ever harder to start wars, GATT and NAFTA further erode US sovereignty (further acts of treason), Much more, too much to cover here.
Bush 2 – Uses 911 to establish a homeland military to be used against US citizens when called for. All of these new agencies are well armed and are being trained to turn on you. Suspension of most protections of citizens from the government. The entire Constitution was design to protect citizens against the government. Stood and watched while FED family banks stole $800,000,000 under threat of Martial Law that would be imposed by the UN, Started the War in Iraq. Now do you see the relevance of 911? (Japan has not been playing the game thus 311)
Obama – Clean Up Man – Spreads our troops all over the map. His State Department and their buddy the Muslim Brotherhood (started by Hitler) stir chaos all over the World expanding Islam, Wanted for war crimes by the Military Government of Egypt, First item on his agenda was the Carbon Bank (you know the one where they charge you for the air you breath) the biggest s**m in the history of mankind. If not for an act of God it might have pass into law. Washington was buried under 50 inches of snow and shut down for the week the v**e was to take place, Next up he crammed Obamacare down the throats of the American people against their will “you have to pass the bill to see what’s in it” opening the door for depopulation. There is a trail case in Massachusetts where their progressive government health care is murdering a girl to let America know that death panels are real and there is nothing you can do about it. Check it out her name is Justina Pelletier forcefully taken from her family who were providing excellent care over a dispute with the State Hospital concerning that care. The progressive scum State of Massachusetts has taken custody and is doing nothing for her saying it is all in her head and leaving her to die. I wish I could make this up, Obama is signing one executive order after another at a break neck pace making every citizen a criminal on one issue or another. He has done everything imaginable to “Fundamentally T***sform America” into the s***e state his progressive UN was shooting for.
What these well paid Bilderberg clowns don’t understand is once the mission is complete they become a liability and will be very expendable.
Good news. Though most people in America get their perspective of the world thru the filter of the Bilderberg Group the technology of the internet is worldwide and to this point cannot be contained (but Obama did just sign away regulation to the UN so we will need a whole new internet) the world is awake and hopefully America will be soon. Keep in mind when you have half of the wealth in the world you can hire a massive propaganda machine but check as many sources as you can and apply deductive reasoning (common sense) and come to your own conclusions. The phrase debunk is the progressives modern replacement for “conspiracy theory”. The days of this Progressive cancer are numbered. Pray they go down without pushing any nuclear buttons.
If you are in a world of right and left, liberal and conservative, black and white, Christian and Muslim know that the progressive way is to divide and conquer. If you believe in liberty please look for common ground and respect. Obama and Putin are on the same team don’t even consider going to die for the war pigs. Real defense starts at your door and border.


Alicia wrote:
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Then tell me: Why is the Tea Party behaving as if it were an entity? Why are they attempting to get rid of Republican Congressmen who don't agree with them. In case you're unaware, there is quite a rumble in the present congress.


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Mar 27, 2014 20:02:51   #
Thanks, I know but some people need graphics to help them understand they are on the same team.
MrEd wrote:
Great post except for one thing. You could have left that poster off at the end. Just looking at those clowns makes me sick..........
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Mar 27, 2014 19:57:23   #
bobgssc wrote:
Carter did a great thing, for other peanut farmers. While he was in office, the price of peanut butter did something like quadruple in price.


:lol: :thumbup:
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Mar 27, 2014 18:29:47   #
Wing nuts start spinning now.
The political clowns on the poster are like thousands of others that were supposed to represent "the people", "workers", the "little people", the Common man", the "underprivileged", would k**l their mother to carry out the bidding of the Progressive movement. What are they progressing to? That would be UN Agenda 21. It is the result of slow but ever growing culture of evil that is progressing toward control of the World. Over two hundred years ago a European banking family of unimaginable wealth found they could take over countries by loaning the government money then bankrupting them. They have been playing the world like a board game every sense.This same family currently owns half the wealth in the world.. They are the prime mover of the FED and all of the World’s Central Banks. One of their granddames said on her death bed “if my sons did not want war there would be no war”. Much of the misguided hatred for Jews over the ages can be directly traced to this family that owns 80% of Israel and are no more Jewish than my cat. They use it as a shield like radical Muslims use schools to hide in. A family quote regarding the value of Israel “the life of a cow in Israel is worth more than the life of a million Jews in Poland”. Their current piss boy representative for progressivism is George Soros who has openly bragged about collapsing the economy of four nations and bring them to their knees one of which was Great Britten. That interview was several years ago his attention sense has turned to the United States. He and his junk bond derivative buddy Warren Buffett along with the drunken sailor spending progressives are about to declare victory in the US. For hundreds of years they have been starting wars for their own amusement backing both sides (Yes they backed both Hitler and Churchill) assuring victory and reducing the population to insure their continued control. The South in the Civil War was backed by Great Brittan and in desperation Lincoln asked this family for a loan. They agreed to lend the money but at an interest rate of 28 to 35%. Lincoln did not take the loan and started Americas own currency called Green Backs. For this he was k**led. JFK wanted to end the FED and started producing Silver Certificates and for this and other patriotic efforts he was involved in he was k**led.
The Real State of the Union - Product of the Progressives
Our Military is spread thin all over the world. Easy targets to be completely wiped out. Which side of Allah are we fighting for this week? Obama is wanted by the current military controlled government of Egypt on war crimes for backing the Muslim Brotherhood. The MB was started by the N**is. Hillary backed the Al-Qaeda led takeover of Libya. Our economy is on the verge of collapse. Show me an economist with any integrity that says we are not. Or just do the easy math and look around you. Several domestic government agencies’ that did not exist before 911 are armed to the teeth and at the ready to attack US citizens. HSA alone has 6 rounds for every man woman and child in America. What the hell are these agencies for? More people die from sleep apnea than terrorist in the US. The Department Education now has employed S.W.A.T. teams for bill collecting on student loans. Excuse me are there now debtors prisons in America. I wish I could make this stuff up. Our well armed citizens can do just fine keeping things secure in our communities if everyone follows the rule of law and due process. Even the IRS is now armed and dangerous. Bring our troop’s home we are going to need them here.
Progressives track record:
Woodrow Wilson - IRS, FED, 16th Amendment, segregated the Army, got us into WW1, taxes went to 75%. Wow! What a guy. He did apologize to the American people on his death bed.
FDR - Social Security (money has been stolen, Clinton started calling it revenue), massive socialist expansion of Federal Government prolonging the depression, cut off supplies to Japan provoking them to attack us to draw us into WW2
Truman - Dropped two atomic bombs on Japan after 5 of our top Generals said it was not necessary. Started the whole Mideast mess by creating Israel. (80% owned by the family mentioned above), should have taken Churchill's advice and prevented the cold war. Created the CIA, there mere existence flies in the face of the Constitution. Opened the door for the NSA the domestic version.
Johnson - First act as president (on the plane from Dallas) signed an executive order overturning Kennedy's executive order creating a US currency to end dependence on the FED, before Kennedy was in the ground called a meeting to start the Viet Nam war, expanded the Federal Government with massive socialist programs.
Nixon - Expanded the Viet Nam War, Four Dead In Ohio, and Christmas bombing of Cambodia.
Carter – Massive expansion of the Federal Government. Created the Department of Education accelerating the progressive dumbing down and revisionist history of America. He was a complete embarrassment when he left office, 20% prime rate, too much to cover here but when rating worst Presidents I would rank him sixth after Obama, Wilson, Bush 2, Billary and Bush 1.
Reagan – Opened the door for INTERPOL, while waving the f**g US industries were being bought out and closed down at an alarming rate with leverage buyouts. Workers were losing pensions as if they never existed. Still not sure about Reagan he may have been asleep at the wheel.
Bush 1 – New World Order man, First President to openly commit treason by signing UN Agenda 21 giving our sovereignty to the UN. All piss boy Presidents after Bush 1 have signed on as well.
Clintons – Often called Billary made the first attempt at National Health Care. Progressives realized they would have to spend a lot more money on political whores and propagandist before they could make another attempt. Very important to their project of depopulation because after Korea and Viet Nam it was getting ever harder to start wars, GATT and NAFTA further erode US sovereignty (further acts of treason), Much more, too much to cover here.
Bush 2 – Uses 911 to establish a homeland military to be used against US citizens when called for. All of these new agencies are well armed and are being trained to turn on you. Suspension of most protections of citizens from the government. The entire Constitution was design to protect citizens against the government. Stood and watched while FED family banks stole $800,000,000 under threat of Martial Law that would be imposed by the UN, Started the War in Iraq. Now do you see the relevance of 911? (Japan has not been playing the game thus 311)
Obama – Clean Up Man – Spreads our troops all over the map. His State Department and their buddy the Muslim Brotherhood (started by Hitler) stir chaos all over the World expanding Islam, Wanted for war crimes by the Military Government of Egypt, First item on his agenda was the Carbon Bank (you know the one where they charge you for the air you breath) the biggest s**m in the history of mankind. If not for an act of God it might have pass into law. Washington was buried under 50 inches of snow and shut down for the week the v**e was to take place, Next up he crammed Obamacare down the throats of the American people against their will “you have to pass the bill to see what’s in it” opening the door for depopulation. There is a trail case in Massachusetts where their progressive government health care is murdering a girl to let America know that death panels are real and there is nothing you can do about it. Check it out her name is Justina Pelletier forcefully taken from her family who were providing excellent care over a dispute with the State Hospital concerning that care. The progressive scum State of Massachusetts has taken custody and is doing nothing for her saying it is all in her head and leaving her to die. I wish I could make this up, Obama is signing one executive order after another at a break neck pace making every citizen a criminal on one issue or another. He has done everything imaginable to “Fundamentally T***sform America” into the s***e state his progressive UN was shooting for.
What these well paid Bilderberg clowns don’t understand is once the mission is complete they become a liability and will be very expendable.
Good news. Though most people in America get their perspective of the world thru the filter of the Bilderberg Group the technology of the internet is worldwide and to this point cannot be contained (but Obama did just sign away regulation to the UN so we will need a whole new internet) the world is awake and hopefully America will be soon. Keep in mind when you have half of the wealth in the world you can hire a massive propaganda machine but check as many sources as you can and apply deductive reasoning (common sense) and come to your own conclusions. The phrase debunk is the progressives modern replacement for “conspiracy theory”. The days of this Progressive cancer are numbered. Pray they go down without pushing any nuclear buttons.
If you are in a world of right and left, liberal and conservative, black and white, Christian and Muslim know that the progressive way is to divide and conquer. If you believe in liberty please look for common ground and respect. Obama and Putin are on the same team don’t even consider going to die for the war pigs. Real defense starts at your door and border.


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Mar 27, 2014 17:40:54   #
or you could say two players same team
OldSchool wrote:
Obama is a national community organizer, but Putin is a global community organizer.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/obama-and-putin-two-totalitarians-one-game/
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Mar 27, 2014 17:39:15   #
yes back to the topic "Liberal logic" I love a good oxymoron that's a winner,
Btfkr wrote:
Obviously you don't KNOW the t***h and would rather assume you do. I have stated on here many times that I am one liberal that owns firearms so best not take the first shot as I might shoot back. So, the big question is: is the point of the original post gun ownership or logic :?: Hint the title is "liberal logic" as I recall. :-P :-P
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Mar 27, 2014 17:21:16   #
really 14 million? wasn't that the cost of the toilet paper for the Obama's last vacation? Sense when do you c****es worry about cost. you know where your bread is buttered and if you are a good progie you will spend all the money you can to collapse our economy a.s.a.p. Retired Navy my ass. They would have thrown you overboard on your first tour. DC, I know DC and there are only about 100 people within 50 miles of DC that are not a whore and you stink like a cheap one. You are probably a GW grad in your 20s hoping to catch on and suck your way to the top. Oh comrade in what way can I serve you. B******i was gun running to Al Qaida, you know like gun running to drug cartels anything to bring down our nation by our Muslim and Chief. You progressives are talking to yourselves. Nobody is buying it anymore.
RetNavyCWO wrote:
From: The National Memo

Congress Has Spent Millions On B******i Witch Hunts

The House of Representatives’ never-ending dishonest, partisan hearings on the attack that k**led four Americans in B******i, Libya in 2012 have long since been exposed as a waste of time. Now, thanks to the Pentagon, we know that they have also been a waste of money.

As The Associated Press reported on Tuesday evening, on March 11 the Pentagon sent a letter to Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA), which revealed that Congress’ numerous investigations into the attack have cost millions of dollars and thousands of hours of personnel time.

“The Department has dev**ed thousands of man-hours to responding to numerous and often repetitive congressional requests regarding B******i,” the letter reads. “The total cost of compliance with B******i-related congressional requests sent to the Department and other agencies is estimated to be in the millions of dollars.”

The letter goes on to note that “these investigations validate the conclusion of the Accountability Review Board led by Ambassador Pickering and Admiral Mullen,” which revealed that interagency response to the attacks “was timely and appropriate.”

Rep. Smith responded to the letter by writing one of his own, to House Armed Services Committee Chairman Buck McKeon (R-CA).

“We must stop wasting this committee’s and our military’s scarce resources chasing a scandal that does not exist,” Smith wrote, according to The Hill.

“More than any other committee in Congress, this committee should understand the financial strain on the Department of Defense, which is being made worse by these ongoing and ridiculous investigations,” he added.

Although the numerous hearings have accomplished little (aside from blowing the CIA’s cover in Libya), McKeon appears to have no intention of heeding Smith’s advice. In a statement, his spokesman Cluade Chafin retorted that “it is important that the committee see this oversight effort through to its conclusion.”

Meanwhile, the House Oversight Committee, which led many of the B******i inquiries under the leadership of Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), is still busy examining another f**e scandal. As Rep. Smith urges an end to the costly B******i witch hunt, Congressman Issa is going all-out in his effort to prove illegal IRS political targeting that never actually occurred.

For those of you keeping score at home, those investigations have already cost taxpayers at least $14 million.
From: The National Memo br br Congress Has Spent... (show quote)
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