What DEBATE is there with a liar??? You told a story about getting a Silver Star for saving your commander from a grenade in the fighting hole you were in, during the A-shau Valley campaign with the 9th marines,,,, I pulled the Operations Sitrep, and all the Silver star Citations for that time, in fact all of the citations, for Vietnam, describing your "purported action" and you cannot select which redacted citation is yours,,,, the end.
Instead of just fessing up to which is you, you continue with the actions of a liar!!
Here they are again,,, your old quotes, and the citations, just pick which one is you,,,,,,,,,.
You claimed to be in the 1st Battalion 9th marines, That is VERY SPECIFIC,, in the A-shau valley, a fight in which casualties were horrific. The fight with the 9th marines in the ashau valley took place January 22 through March 18, 1969, so if you were wounded and only stayed a few months, you could have been there, could have done that.
I have reviewed "ALL" the Silver Star Citations for Vietnam,,, here are the only 7 describing action the likes of which you claim.
I'm not saying you didnt, but there is ZERO proof,,, and the story you laid out, would be provable. Either it didnt happen, or didnt happen the way you said,,either way, it isnt fair that you bust the nuts of other vets, when you have a checkered past.
I submitted a FOIA request and got the actual 1/9 After Action reports from the A-shau battle, and began to notice the holes in your story.
None of this would have been necessary, except for the abuse I have seen HF heap on younger, less experienced vets, but everyone, that encounters him gets the same, "something isnt right" gut reaction.
I started digging, and found the Walking Dead.org (what the First BN 9th Marines are called. They hunt down wannabes,, who build their reputations and sometimes careers, on lies of stolen valor.
Some of these awards, like the silver star, are illegal to wear, and I would assume that the reason the VA is short on money, as well as so many Veterans "benefits" are so scarce and hard to obtain is because of all the liars and charletons....Well,,, not quite true, but what is about you? A Silver star, not given for "just being there" there has to be conspicuous gallantry, like you describe,,, If, a Marine did as you claim, it was so noted in the citation, because that type of heroism is rare.
The fight with the 9th marines in the ashau valley took place January 22 through March 18, 1969, so if you were wounded and only stayed a few months, you could have been there, could have done that.
You have stated before:
"I was in the 1/9, Walking Dead (First Battalion 9th Marines)"
"I was wounded in the A Shau Valley in February 1969 where the 9th marines attacked, took every objective we were ordered to and left it for the NVA to re-occupy within weeks, if not days. I still have less than full function of my left hand and shrapnel in my left arm and body from where a Chinese potato masher grenade landed near me and my platoon leader and I attempted to throw it back. I also have a Silver Star for that act of of desperate survival instinct."
"Even Dennis knows how to make a point-he corrected me on what year Vietnam had the most KIAs, albeit with an insult thrown in for good measure. . I was only there for a little less than two months in 1969 so I guess it was a mistake to think it was as bad the entire 12. Thanks Dennis. "
I have reviewed ALL the Silver Star Citations for Vietnam,,, here are the only 7 describing action the likes of which you claim.
Pick which one is you....names redacted for your sake,,, just pick which one is you..
xxxxxx, RJ
Citation:
The President of the United States takes p***e in presenting the Silver Star Medal to R J, U.S. Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving in the Republic of Vietnam. XXXXXXXs unit was assigned the mission of aiding a Marine rifle company which was engaged with a numerically superior force of North Vietnamese Army Regulars. Disregarding his own safety, XXXXXXX unhesitatingly volunteered to lead a rescue detail forward of friendly lines to evacuate casualties and assist other Marines who were temporarily separated from their units. While maneuvering across the hazardous terrain, the rescue team came under increasingly heavy small-arms and automatic weapons fire and was forced to take cover in a nearby shell hole. As the Marines delivered effective return fire, an enemy hand grenade landed in the crater. Reacting instantly, XXXXXXX ignored the danger to himself, picked up the deadly grenade and threw it out of the crater where it exploded. Although painfully wounded by grenade fragments, he continued to direct his unit's return fire and, when superiority was gained, led his men in the search for casualties. After supervising the evacuation of several wounded comrades, he observed an enemy mortar delivering fire against Marine positions. Deploying his men, he sk**lfully led them against the hostile emplacement and quickly silenced the enemy mortar and a nearby machine gun position. Subsequently, he directed the withdrawal of his men to friendly lines and assisted in consolidating the defensive perimeter. His heroic and timely actions in the face of great personal danger were an inspiration to all who observed him and undoubtedly saved the lives of several fellow Marines. By his courage, outstanding professionalism and selfless devotion to duty, XXXXXXXX contributed significantly to the accomplishment of his unit's mission and upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.
Home Town: Pine Beach, New Jersey
XXXXXXXXX, A A.
Citation:
The President of the United States takes p***e in presenting the Silver Star Medal to A A. XXXXXXXXX , U.S. Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving as in connection with operations against the enemy in the Republic of Vietnam. On 19 March 1969, during Operation Purple Martin near fire support base Neville in XXXXXXXXX Province, XXXXXXXXX patrol was preparing to provide security for the eastern flank of the company when his Marines came under a heavy volume of small arms fire and hand grenade attack. Observing that a hostile machine gun emplacement was preventing the advance of his men, XXXXXXXXX completely disregarded his own safety as he rushed across the fire-swept terrain and, armed only with a grenade and a pistol, aggressively assaulted and destroyed the enemy position. As he fearlessly moved toward a second objective, he was seriously wounded and knocked to the ground by small arms fire. Steadfastly determined to continue his attack, he was resolutely attempting to rise when he was wounded by the detonation of a hostile explosive device. His heroic and timely actions inspired all who observed him and were instrumental in his company's subsequent defeat of the enemy. By his courage, bold initiative and unwavering devotion to duty, XXXXXXXXX contributed significantly to the accomplishment of his unit's mission and upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.
Home Town: Baldwin, New York
XXXXXXXXX, RD.
Citation:
The President of the United States takes pleasure in presenting the Silver Star Medal to R D. XXXXXXXXX Private First Class, U.S. Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving as an Assistant Machine Gunner, in connection with operations against the enemy in the Republic of Vietnam. On 28 July 1969, Company K was occupying a night defensive position approximately three miles northwest of XXXXXXXXX. Suddenly, the Marines came under heavy ground attack by a large North Vietnamese Army force utilizing mortars, automatic weapons, and rocket-propelled grenades. During the initial moments of the firefight, a hostile rocket-propelled grenade exploded in Private First Class XXXXXXXXX s fighting position, seriously wounding him and his two companions. After d**gging his comrades to a position of relative safety, he boldly shielded them from further injuries with his own body and commenced delivering effective M-60 machine gun fire at the enemy. Alertly observing several hostile soldiers who were attempting to destroy nearby tanks with hand grenades, Private First Class XXXXXXXXX delivered such accurate fire with his weapon that the enemy soldiers were forced to abandon their mission. When the hostile unit turned its attention to his machine gun position, Private First Class XXXXXXXXX, completely disregarding his own painful wound, resolutely maintained his exposed position and continued to fire at the enemy until reinforcements arrived. His heroic and timely actions and sincere concern for the welfare of his fellow man inspired all who observed him. By his courage, aggressive fighting spirit and selfless devotion to duty in the face of extreme personal danger, Private First Class XXXXXXXXX contributed significantly to the subsequent defeat of the North Vietnamese Army force and upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.
Home Town: Calvin, Oklahoma
XXXXXXXXX, F M.
Citation:The President of the United States takes p***e in presenting the Silver Star Medal to F M. XXXXXXXXX , U.S. Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving as First Battalion, Ninth Marines, Third Marine Division, in connection with operations against the enemy in the Republic of Vietnam. On 19 March 1969, the Battalion Command Post at Phu Lac came under an intense ground attack from approximately two hundred enemy sappers who were supported by rockets and mortars. Reacting instantly, XXXXXXXXX was rushing to his defensive position adjacent to the mess hall when he observed six hostile soldiers who had penetrated the defensive wire and were moving toward the command bunker. Realizing the seriousness of the situation, he fearlessly moved between the enemy and the command bunker and began delivering rifle fire upon the soldiers who were firing at him. After k*****g one hostile soldier and forcing the others to take cover XXXXXXXXX continued firing his rifle as he attempted to reach a fighting trench, but was knocked to the ground by the explosion of an enemy grenade. His heroic and timely actions inspired all who observed him and were instrumental in preventing the destruction of the Battalion Command Bunker. By his courage, aggressive fighting spirit and selfless devotion to duty, XXXXXXXXX upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.
Home Town: Montgomery, Alabama
XXXXXXXXX, W G.
Citation:
The President of the United States takes pleasure in presenting the Silver Star Medal to W G. XXXXXXXXX , Lance Corporal, U.S. Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving as a Rifleman with Company K, First Battalion, Ninth Marines, Third Marine Division, in connection with operations against the enemy in the Republic of Vietnam. Operation MEADE RIVER, Company K was occupying a night defensive position when XXXXXXXXX, alertly observed a hostile soldier throwing a hand grenade into the perimeter. When the grenade impacted just a few inches from the head of a sleeping Marine, XXXXXXXXX, fully aware that it might explode at any instant, unhesitatingly left his relative safe position and rushed to pick up the lethal object. Fearlessly hurling the grenade at the retreating enemy, XXXXXXXXX was wounded when it detonated immediately after leaving his hand. His heroic actions and sincere concern for the welfare of a companion inspired all who observed him and prevented a serious injury or possible death of a fellow Marine. By his courage, bold initiative, and selfless devotion to duty in the face of great personal danger, XXXXXXXXX upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and the United States Naval Service.
Home Town: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
XXXXXXXXX, D F.
Citation:
The President of the United States takes pleasure in presenting of the Silver Star Medal to DF. XXXXXXXXX Corporal, U.S. Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving as a Fire Team Leader Company L, First Battalion, Ninth Marines, Third Marine Division in connection with operations against the enemy in the Republic of Vietnam While occupying a night defensive position , company L came under a heavy volume of artillery and recoilless rifle fire supporting ground assault by a large North Vietnamese Army force. A friendly listening post, which had sustained a casualty during the initial moments of the firefight, was returning to the perimeter. Upon learning about the situation, Corporal XXXXXXXXX, then a Lance Corporal fearlessly exposed himself to enemy fire as he maneuvered across the hazardous terrain to assist the wounded mean. Alertly observing an enemy hand grenade land dangerously close to his position, Corporal XXXXXXXXX unhesitatingly threw his body across that of his wounded comrade, shielding him from further injury. Although painfully wounded by the exploding hostile grenade, Corporal XXXXXXXXX resolutely returned to his Fire Team and continued to direct his men in the defense of his sector of the company perimeter until directly ordered to withdraw for treatment of his wounds. His heroic and timely actions inspired all who observed him and were instrumental in saving the life of a fellow Marine. By his courage, bold initiative and steadfast devotion to duty in the face of great personal danger, Corporal XXXXXXXXX upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.
Home Town: St. Paul, Minnesota
XXXXXXXXX, M J.
Citation:
The President of the United States takes p***e in presenting the Silver Star Medal to M J. XXXXXXXXX , Corporal, U.S. Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving as a Rifleman with Detachment, First Battalion, Ninth Marine Regiment, THIRD Marine Division, during operations against the enemy in Vietnam. Throughout the night, the Marines heard sounds of enemy activity. At dawn on 18 January, a numerically superior North Vietnamese Army patrol of approximately forty men was sighted moving toward their position. Corporal XXXXXXXXX quickly moved to his defensive position where he was observed by the approaching enemy. Demonstrating exceptional presence of mind, he warned his companions and immediately opened fire at the lead man of the North Vietnamese unit. His continued to bring effective fire to bear on the advancing enemy although wounded twice as the North Vietnamese moved to within fifteen meters of his position. Exhibiting exemplary courage and aggressive fighting spirit despite his painful wounds and the intense enemy fire directed at him, Corporal XXXXXXXXX maintained his position and halted the enemy's attempts to dislodge the flank security. When an enemy hand grenade landed within the patrol's defensive perimeter Corporal XXXXXXXXX, with complete disregard for his own safety, valiantly attempted to recover the grenade but was wounded. By his extraordinary courage, bold initiative, and selfless devotion to duty, Corporal XXXXXXXXX saved the lives of several Marines, inspired all those who observed him and upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.
Home Town: Norwalk, Connecticut
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