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Jun 20, 2014 13:24:24   #
Randall_S Loc: Big Apple
 
What’s the difference between Iraq today and Libya in 2011? Qatar, the tiny Gulf state sponsor of terror, was for intervention in Libya, but is against intervention in Iraq. In Libya, Obama preemptively ordered NATO airstrikes on the forces of Muammar Gaddafi, allegedly to prevent genocide. Obama explained this reasoning in a speech on March 28, 2011, saying that he acted to stop a massacre that would have “stained the conscience of the world.” Obama continued, “I refused to wait for the images of slaughter and mass graves before taking action.” In Iraq today, we have photos and videos of mass slaughter by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS). Obama’s response to an actual genocide, complete with broadcast evidence, is to rule out airstrikes.

In Libya, NATO air power was used against the secular Gaddafi regime that had been cooperating with the United States to fight terrorism. The air support benefited al Qaeda forces, who were a bulk of the rebels, and their sponsor state, Qatar. Qatar had troops on the ground in Libya and even conducted airstrikes of their own. Reminder: Libya today is in a state of total chaos.

In Iraq, as [al Qaeda spinoff] ISIS heads toward Baghdad, marauding villages and committing war crimes, a former Qatari Ambassador to the U.S. warned that any American strike on ISIS would be “seen as another conspiracy against Sunni.” One day later, Obama ruled out air strikes against ISIS.

The Qatari Ambassador continued, essentially defending ISIS: “[W]e must take into account the fact that injustice, exclusion, marginalization [by the Iraqi government has] fuel[ed] violence and contributed to its expansion.” American Secretary of State, John Kerry, echoed the Qatari the same day: “We’ve … had great difficulties with the existing government in their unwillingness to reach out and be inclusive.”

Both the United States and Qatar have been providing arms and other supplies to Syrian rebels, who are also al Qaeda jihadis. (Qatar even supplied heat-seeking shoulder-fired missiles.) Some of these weapons have, to no one’s surprise, made their way over the border into Iraq. Notice the genocider of ISIS holding a brand new American-made M-16 in this picture. They’re now being used against the nominally American-allied government of Nouri al-Maliki.

The United States, and (Muslim Brotherhood-run) Turkey actually trained ISIS on a secret base in Jordan in 2012. Last month, PBS reported that the United States was training Syrian rebels (i.e. al Qaeda) on a secret base in Qatar, where the rebels were taught how to murder survivors of car bombings. (Note: Murdering survivors is against all U.S. military protocols.)

How does Obama feel about Iraq falling to jihadis? After the attacks of September 11, 2012 in B******i, he infamously flew to Las Vegas to attend a campaign fundraiser. Likewise, while Iraq turns into a jihadi hellhole, the “president” went golfing.

Obama, in January, dismissed the threat from al Qaeda, calling their current manifestation “the JV team.” Seeing as how AQ groups current dominate events in Libya, Syria, and Iraq, you could say they’re more powerful than ever.

Questions: Is the Columbia and Harvard-educated president, who receives intelligence briefings daily, a genuine moron? Or is he intentionally deceiving the people? Consider Qatar’s hand in these debacles, and then come to the more likely conclusion.

P.S., while you are considering… On May 28, Obama delivered the commencement speech at West Point, outlining how America will scale back its security footprint internationally. Graduate Hamad Victor N**im, the son of Emir Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, the Emir of Qatar until earlier this year, became the first Qatari to receive a diploma from “Harvard on the Hudson.” Three days later, Bowe Bergdahl was swapped for five senior Taliban commanders who now reside luxuriously in Qatar.

Coincidence?

Emir Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani is photographed with his graduate son, second from right, at West Point in May
Emir Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani is photogra...

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Jun 20, 2014 15:44:15   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
Randall_S wrote:
What’s the difference between Iraq today and Libya in 2011? Qatar, the tiny Gulf state sponsor of terror, was for intervention in Libya, but is against intervention in Iraq. In Libya, Obama preemptively ordered NATO airstrikes on the forces of Muammar Gaddafi, allegedly to prevent genocide. Obama explained this reasoning in a speech on March 28, 2011, saying that he acted to stop a massacre that would have “stained the conscience of the world.” Obama continued, “I refused to wait for the images of slaughter and mass graves before taking action.” In Iraq today, we have photos and videos of mass slaughter by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS). Obama’s response to an actual genocide, complete with broadcast evidence, is to rule out airstrikes.

In Libya, NATO air power was used against the secular Gaddafi regime that had been cooperating with the United States to fight terrorism. The air support benefited al Qaeda forces, who were a bulk of the rebels, and their sponsor state, Qatar. Qatar had troops on the ground in Libya and even conducted airstrikes of their own. Reminder: Libya today is in a state of total chaos.

In Iraq, as [al Qaeda spinoff] ISIS heads toward Baghdad, marauding villages and committing war crimes, a former Qatari Ambassador to the U.S. warned that any American strike on ISIS would be “seen as another conspiracy against Sunni.” One day later, Obama ruled out air strikes against ISIS.

The Qatari Ambassador continued, essentially defending ISIS: “[W]e must take into account the fact that injustice, exclusion, marginalization [by the Iraqi government has] fuel[ed] violence and contributed to its expansion.” American Secretary of State, John Kerry, echoed the Qatari the same day: “We’ve … had great difficulties with the existing government in their unwillingness to reach out and be inclusive.”

Both the United States and Qatar have been providing arms and other supplies to Syrian rebels, who are also al Qaeda jihadis. (Qatar even supplied heat-seeking shoulder-fired missiles.) Some of these weapons have, to no one’s surprise, made their way over the border into Iraq. Notice the genocider of ISIS holding a brand new American-made M-16 in this picture. They’re now being used against the nominally American-allied government of Nouri al-Maliki.

The United States, and (Muslim Brotherhood-run) Turkey actually trained ISIS on a secret base in Jordan in 2012. Last month, PBS reported that the United States was training Syrian rebels (i.e. al Qaeda) on a secret base in Qatar, where the rebels were taught how to murder survivors of car bombings. (Note: Murdering survivors is against all U.S. military protocols.)

How does Obama feel about Iraq falling to jihadis? After the attacks of September 11, 2012 in B******i, he infamously flew to Las Vegas to attend a campaign fundraiser. Likewise, while Iraq turns into a jihadi hellhole, the “president” went golfing.

Obama, in January, dismissed the threat from al Qaeda, calling their current manifestation “the JV team.” Seeing as how AQ groups current dominate events in Libya, Syria, and Iraq, you could say they’re more powerful than ever.

Questions: Is the Columbia and Harvard-educated president, who receives intelligence briefings daily, a genuine moron? Or is he intentionally deceiving the people? Consider Qatar’s hand in these debacles, and then come to the more likely conclusion.

P.S., while you are considering… On May 28, Obama delivered the commencement speech at West Point, outlining how America will scale back its security footprint internationally. Graduate Hamad Victor N**im, the son of Emir Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, the Emir of Qatar until earlier this year, became the first Qatari to receive a diploma from “Harvard on the Hudson.” Three days later, Bowe Bergdahl was swapped for five senior Taliban commanders who now reside luxuriously in Qatar.

Coincidence?
What’s the difference between Iraq today and Libya... (show quote)



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No one will open their eyes Randall.

This is an outstanding post and will be going to my email network.

I am convinced that the majority of people don't care about a thing until they or someone close to them end up on the chopping block.

Remember when it used to be "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"?

Now, it seems to be "give me a ton of stuff and screw you"!

How pathetic.

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Jun 20, 2014 15:49:52   #
Ve'hoe
 
It has begun to occur to me, that I and others in the military did our jobs too well..


bdamage wrote:
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No one will open their eyes Randall.

This is an outstanding post and will be going to my email network.

I am convinced that the majority of people don't care about a thing until they or someone close to them end up on the chopping block.

Remember when it used to be "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"?

Now, it seems to be "give me a ton of stuff and screw you"!

How pathetic.

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Jun 20, 2014 15:50:35   #
Randall_S Loc: Big Apple
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
It has begun to occur to me, that I and others in the military did our jobs too well..


I don't think I understand.

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Jun 20, 2014 16:06:38   #
Ve'hoe
 
We beat down all the enemies, so the weak and confused took over America and don't know how to run the country, how to react to the predators of the world, and are running us into the ground by not listening.... I always say that the l*****t somehow thinks his "totally creamy liberal-ness and love for all" is somehow responsible for the peace America enjoys,,, not every realizing or understanding the hordes of murderous a-holes we have to fight to keep it free and functioning....... they think somehow, it is they who are responsible.........


Randall_S wrote:
I don't think I understand.

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Jun 20, 2014 16:11:53   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
We beat down all the enemies, so the weak and confused took over America and don't know how to run the country, how to react to the predators of the world, and are running us into the ground by not listening.... I always say that the l*****t somehow thinks his "totally creamy liberal-ness and love for all" is somehow responsible for the peace America enjoys,,, not every realizing or understanding the hordes of murderous a-holes we have to fight to keep it free and functioning....... they think somehow, it is they who are responsible.........
We beat down all the enemies, so the weak and conf... (show quote)


Then indeed.....you did your job too well!

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Jun 20, 2014 16:33:07   #
Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way
 
bdamage wrote:
Then indeed.....you did your job too well!


Can't tell good guys from bad guys without a program.

Coaching the bad guys PresidentaaaAaaa OoooobamaaAaaa, oops sorry been watching to much World Cup.

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Jun 20, 2014 18:39:03   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
Qatar part of the Sunni alliance with the leopard(Turkey)?


Iraq Is Collapsing And The Antichrist’s Iranian-Turkish SINISTER Plan Is Unfolding Right Before Our Eyes
By Walid Shoebat (Shoebat Exclusive) June 19, 2014

Turkey’s Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has warned the U.S. of the risks of launching air strikes against the ISIS in Iraq claiming concern about the fate of dozens of Turkish citizens captured last week by the ISIS. But all this is a ruse; Turkey cares less about the dozens of captured Turkish citizens when it was Turkey who aided the ISIS in the first place.

The whole fiasco is a master plan with Turkey working alongside Iran to divide the region.
http://shoebat.com/2014/06/19/iraq-collapsing-antichrists-iranian-turkish-sinister-plan-unfolding-right-eyes/

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Jun 21, 2014 01:56:20   #
Hungry Freaks
 
The difference between Libya and Iraq? About 4,500 US lives, not including private contracts.

And the absence of US troops on the ground. And the support of the NATO alliance, in Libya which was totally absent in Iraq.

Like Quaddfai (sp?) , Saddam Hussein was an ally with the West in the war on Islamic fundamentalism. Just alike Assad in Syria was an ally, ally enough to where the administration of President George W. Bush sent terrorist suspects to Syria in Bush's illegal "extraordinary rendition" program for torture.

And the fact that the people of Libya were already up in arms shedding blood to o*******w their dictator. Iraq was contained to the point where theUS no-fly zone had allowed Kurds has been able to set up their own self-government in the north with fear of further gas attacks (by SH with intel provided by the US government) or air attack after the Bush I war in Iraq.

In Iraq, the US had basically given the green light to SH to do as he pleased, including a pass on the Iraqi attack on the USS Stark. The Bush I administration had said 'we won't get involved on Arab on Arab disputes" just before SH invaded Kuwait in 1991 after Iraq had long complained about Kuwait's practice of diagonal drilling into Iraqi oil fields.

You want me to go on? I can, but please answer these points first.



Randall_S wrote:
What’s the difference between Iraq today and Libya in 2011? Qatar, the tiny Gulf state sponsor of terror, was for intervention in Libya, but is against intervention in Iraq. In Libya, Obama preemptively ordered NATO airstrikes on the forces of Muammar Gaddafi, allegedly to prevent genocide. Obama explained this reasoning in a speech on March 28, 2011, saying that he acted to stop a massacre that would have “stained the conscience of the world.” Obama continued, “I refused to wait for the images of slaughter and mass graves before taking action.” In Iraq today, we have photos and videos of mass slaughter by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS). Obama’s response to an actual genocide, complete with broadcast evidence, is to rule out airstrikes.

In Libya, NATO air power was used against the secular Gaddafi regime that had been cooperating with the United States to fight terrorism. The air support benefited al Qaeda forces, who were a bulk of the rebels, and their sponsor state, Qatar. Qatar had troops on the ground in Libya and even conducted airstrikes of their own. Reminder: Libya today is in a state of total chaos.

In Iraq, as [al Qaeda spinoff] ISIS heads toward Baghdad, marauding villages and committing war crimes, a former Qatari Ambassador to the U.S. warned that any American strike on ISIS would be “seen as another conspiracy against Sunni.” One day later, Obama ruled out air strikes against ISIS.

The Qatari Ambassador continued, essentially defending ISIS: “[W]e must take into account the fact that injustice, exclusion, marginalization [by the Iraqi government has] fuel[ed] violence and contributed to its expansion.” American Secretary of State, John Kerry, echoed the Qatari the same day: “We’ve … had great difficulties with the existing government in their unwillingness to reach out and be inclusive.”

Both the United States and Qatar have been providing arms and other supplies to Syrian rebels, who are also al Qaeda jihadis. (Qatar even supplied heat-seeking shoulder-fired missiles.) Some of these weapons have, to no one’s surprise, made their way over the border into Iraq. Notice the genocider of ISIS holding a brand new American-made M-16 in this picture. They’re now being used against the nominally American-allied government of Nouri al-Maliki.

The United States, and (Muslim Brotherhood-run) Turkey actually trained ISIS on a secret base in Jordan in 2012. Last month, PBS reported that the United States was training Syrian rebels (i.e. al Qaeda) on a secret base in Qatar, where the rebels were taught how to murder survivors of car bombings. (Note: Murdering survivors is against all U.S. military protocols.)

How does Obama feel about Iraq falling to jihadis? After the attacks of September 11, 2012 in B******i, he infamously flew to Las Vegas to attend a campaign fundraiser. Likewise, while Iraq turns into a jihadi hellhole, the “president” went golfing.

Obama, in January, dismissed the threat from al Qaeda, calling their current manifestation “the JV team.” Seeing as how AQ groups current dominate events in Libya, Syria, and Iraq, you could say they’re more powerful than ever.

Questions: Is the Columbia and Harvard-educated president, who receives intelligence briefings daily, a genuine moron? Or is he intentionally deceiving the people? Consider Qatar’s hand in these debacles, and then come to the more likely conclusion.

P.S., while you are considering… On May 28, Obama delivered the commencement speech at West Point, outlining how America will scale back its security footprint internationally. Graduate Hamad Victor N**im, the son of Emir Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, the Emir of Qatar until earlier this year, became the first Qatari to receive a diploma from “Harvard on the Hudson.” Three days later, Bowe Bergdahl was swapped for five senior Taliban commanders who now reside luxuriously in Qatar.

Coincidence?
What’s the difference between Iraq today and Libya... (show quote)

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Jun 21, 2014 02:04:46   #
Hungry Freaks
 
I'm pretty sure the early and significant backer of ISIS has been the Saudis. Turkey? Not so much. The last thing they want is a united front on their southern border.

Yet we continue to kiss the Saudi's asses after their supper for bin Laden and every other Sunni Islamic fundamentalist group in the Middle East. Turkey, not so much.

Turkey working with Iraq? Where do you get that nugget? Turkey has worked for Turkey for decades. Read Kindross' "The Ottoman Centuries" for a little more insight into Turkish-Sunni relations in the Middle East. What is today Iraq was part of the Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years before the Brits and the French took a ruler to form what is today Iraq.

Yet the Brits and the French, or the Germans, all much closer to Iraq than the US, don't seem to be jumping into the breech. Wonder why? Iraq is their creation (the Brits and the French). Let them deal with it.


bdamage wrote:
Qatar part of the Sunni alliance with the leopard(Turkey)?


Iraq Is Collapsing And The Antichrist’s Iranian-Turkish SINISTER Plan Is Unfolding Right Before Our Eyes
By Walid Shoebat (Shoebat Exclusive) June 19, 2014

Turkey’s Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has warned the U.S. of the risks of launching air strikes against the ISIS in Iraq claiming concern about the fate of dozens of Turkish citizens captured last week by the ISIS. But all this is a ruse; Turkey cares less about the dozens of captured Turkish citizens when it was Turkey who aided the ISIS in the first place.

The whole fiasco is a master plan with Turkey working alongside Iran to divide the region.
http://shoebat.com/2014/06/19/iraq-collapsing-antichrists-iranian-turkish-sinister-plan-unfolding-right-eyes/
Qatar part of the Sunni alliance with the leopard(... (show quote)

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Jun 21, 2014 02:11:17   #
Hungry Freaks
 
Right-we have to do "something" to keep these hordes on the path to democracy, hey?

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. Our intervention in the Middle East isn't likely to produce stable democracies, just as it hasn't in Latin America, afghanistan or Southeast Asia, including Vietnam.


Keep fighting? Why? If the nations of Europe, much closer to the action than the US don't see any reason, why should we?


Our enemies haven't taken over America. We've been telling other countries how to run their governments for more than a hundred years without success. What makes you think it will work this time?

"keep it free and functioning"? Where have we done that since 1953?

***********************************************


Ve'hoe wrote:
We beat down all the enemies, so the weak and confused took over America and don't know how to run the country, how to react to the predators of the world, and are running us into the ground by not listening.... I always say that the l*****t somehow thinks his "totally creamy liberal-ness and love for all" is somehow responsible for the peace America enjoys,,, not every realizing or understanding the hordes of murderous a-holes we have to fight to keep it free and functioning....... they think somehow, it is they who are responsible.........
We beat down all the enemies, so the weak and conf... (show quote)

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Jun 21, 2014 10:37:57   #
Viet Nam Vet 67-68
 
PASS THIS TO EVERY AMERICAN YOU KNOW AND REMEMBER OBAMINATION IS A SUNNI MUSLIM!


WHAT IS AN INFIDEL ?

This is a true story and the author,

Rick Mathes, is a well-known

Leader in prison ministry


The man who walks with God always gets to his

destination. If you have a pulse you have a purpose

The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per

capita in the United States , especially in the minority

races!!

Last month I attended my annual training session

that's required for maintaining my state prison security
clearance...


During the training session there was a presentation by

three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant

and Muslim faiths, who each explained their beliefs.

I was particularly interested in what the Islamic had

to say. The Muslim gave a great presentation of the basics
of Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations,
time was provided for questions and answers then it was my
turn. I directed my question to the Muslim and asked:

'Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I
understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have
declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the
world and, that by k*****g an infidel, (which is a command
to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If
that's the case, can you give me the definition of an
infidel?'

There was no disagreement with my statements and,
without hesitation, he replied, ' Non-believers! '
I responded, 'So, let me make sure I have this
straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to k**l
everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place
in heaven.



Is that correct?'

The expression on his face changed from one of

authority and command to that of a little boy who had just

been caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He sheepishly

replied, 'Yes.'

I then stated, 'Well, sir, I have a real problem

trying to imagine The Pope commanding all Catholics to k**l

those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering all Protestants

to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in

heaven!'

The Muslim was speechless! I continued,'I also have

a problem with being your friend when you and your brother

clerics are telling your followers to k**l me!
Let me ask you a question:

Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to k**l

me in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells

me to love you because I am going to heaven and He wants you

to be there with me?'

You could have heard a pin drop as



The Imam hung his head in shame.

Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the

'Diversification' training seminar were not happy

with my way of dealing with the Islamic Imam, and exposing

the t***h about the Muslims' beliefs.

In twenty years there will be enough Muslim v**ers in

the U.S. To elect the President!


I think everyone in the U.S. Should be required to read
this, but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely
publicized, unless each of us sends it on!


This is your chance to make a difference....


FOR CHRIST'S SAKE.....SEND THIS ON . .


"I will restore to you the years the locusts have
eaten"

Joel 2:25

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Jun 21, 2014 14:39:56   #
rodulfo-tardo
 
Ve'hoe.....................
Ever consider the e******n of this Qatari Agent, Mufti-Barry, is the reason why they feel their mission is unstoppable and predetermined, it is as far as I can tell, the other way around, your job was not allowed to finish to its conclusion, you never were allowed to finish the job, the U.S. Armed Forces was defeated from within, the job was well done but not finished, it was c*********d by a "Progressive" element, not even remotely concerned about "Victory" but a politically-correct way to capitulate and dishonor those who gave their lives to defend this Country, nevermind the "T***sfundamentalist" treason to the Constitution and those who defend it, after the 1968-69 Tet Offensive in Vietnam, the Vietcong, N.V.A.R. and the Chinese Regulars were defeated militarily but the 'political-politicized' L.B.J. Administration suspended the bombing of North Vietnam, all operations across the Cambodian and Laotian border's search and destroy missions, redefined the rules of engagement (sound familiar?) and replaced the most effective Commander General Westmoreland, with General Craighton Abrams (Abrams Tank) a W.W. II decorated veteran of the European War, but not versed in this new guerrilla no rules war, making him adhere to a (win the hearts) campaign of politically-correct war of kindness, destroying his reputation with an as yet unseen number of K.I.A.'s this along with the 'draft' that threw civilian soldiers without need; the troop surges are nothing but an increase of targets for the enemy, it was at this point in that war, the K.I.A.'s reached their highest levels, just as with the 2008 numbers for K.I.A.'s in Afghanistan was under 400 as of December 30th. but by 2009 these numbers had increased by 62% and have increased as if keeping parity with the deficit at over 100% on December 31st. of 2012, it is not a job too well done, it is a job stopped before its conclusion; that is problem among many and among these, is how to regain the Constitution stop arming the enemy but most of all how did we end up on the side of enemy, allowing a religious Genocide to persist, increase and be an acceptable policy for this cretin Mufti-al'Buraq-Husseyn-Obama and his Qatari agents, handlers and enemies of the United States, no Ve'hoe the problem is the job is about to begin again but this time it will be here first line of defense has been penetrated, that was the Letter of the Law, according to the Constitution, a perimeter that we cannot afford to loose any further than it has been as of now.

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Jun 21, 2014 15:18:43   #
Hungry Freaks
 
I don't think the Founding Fathers ever envisioned an interventionist foreign policy that we've had since the late 19th Century.

Sure the US went to war with the Barbary pirates early in the nation's history, but only because the were interfering with US shipping on the high seas and with trade the US conducted with nations that wanted to do trade with the US.

Same with the War of 1812. We went to war with Britain because Britain was interfering with US trade on the high seas.

The war against the Spanish in the late 19th Century, banana wars of the early 20th and the undeclared wars of post WWII era were only designed to allow multi-nationals to do their mischief wherever in the world they wanted. It wasn't that nations that wanted to trade with the US were prevented from doing so. It was nations who had US intervention to install governments that would do trade with the US under any terms desired by the "Boys in the Back Room" as USMC Gen. Smeadly Butler called them.

"I was a gangster for capitalism………….. I could have taught Al Capone a thing or two. He operated in three cities. I operated on four continents. " USMC Gen. Smeadly Butler, circ. 1930s. ************************************************************************************************

rodulfo-tardo wrote:
Ve'hoe.....................
Ever consider the e******n of this Qatari Agent, Mufti-Barry, is the reason why they feel their mission is unstoppable and predetermined, it is as far as I can tell, the other way around, your job was not allowed to finish to its conclusion, you never were allowed to finish the job, the U.S. Armed Forces was defeated from within, the job was well done but not finished, it was c*********d by a "Progressive" element, not even remotely concerned about "Victory" but a politically-correct way to capitulate and dishonor those who gave their lives to defend this Country, nevermind the "T***sfundamentalist" treason to the Constitution and those who defend it, after the 1968-69 Tet Offensive in Vietnam, the Vietcong, N.V.A.R. and the Chinese Regulars were defeated militarily but the 'political-politicized' L.B.J. Administration suspended the bombing of North Vietnam, all operations across the Cambodian and Laotian border's search and destroy missions, redefined the rules of engagement (sound familiar?) and replaced the most effective Commander General Westmoreland, with General Craighton Abrams (Abrams Tank) a W.W. II decorated veteran of the European War, but not versed in this new guerrilla no rules war, making him adhere to a (win the hearts) campaign of politically-correct war of kindness, destroying his reputation with an as yet unseen number of K.I.A.'s this along with the 'draft' that threw civilian soldiers without need; the troop surges are nothing but an increase of targets for the enemy, it was at this point in that war, the K.I.A.'s reached their highest levels, just as with the 2008 numbers for K.I.A.'s in Afghanistan was under 400 as of December 30th. but by 2009 these numbers had increased by 62% and have increased as if keeping parity with the deficit at over 100% on December 31st. of 2012, it is not a job too well done, it is a job stopped before its conclusion; that is problem among many and among these, is how to regain the Constitution stop arming the enemy but most of all how did we end up on the side of enemy, allowing a religious Genocide to persist, increase and be an acceptable policy for this cretin Mufti-al'Buraq-Husseyn-Obama and his Qatari agents, handlers and enemies of the United States, no Ve'hoe the problem is the job is about to begin again but this time it will be here first line of defense has been penetrated, that was the Letter of the Law, according to the Constitution, a perimeter that we cannot afford to loose any further than it has been as of now.
Ve'hoe..................... br Ever consider the e... (show quote)

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Jun 21, 2014 16:58:35   #
Ve'hoe
 
You, know what you need to do,,,, just tell the t***h instead of more of your bulls**t


Hungry Freaks wrote:
Right-we have to do "something" to keep these hordes on the path to democracy, hey?

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. Our intervention in the Middle East isn't likely to produce stable democracies, just as it hasn't in Latin America, afghanistan or Southeast Asia, including Vietnam.


Keep fighting? Why? If the nations of Europe, much closer to the action than the US don't see any reason, why should we?


Our enemies haven't taken over America. We've been telling other countries how to run their governments for more than a hundred years without success. What makes you think it will work this time?

"keep it free and functioning"? Where have we done that since 1953?

***********************************************
Right-we have to do "something" to keep ... (show quote)

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