Many of the people who post in this forum seem to believe that W. Bush was a wonderful president and that Obama has not been acceptable. Here are some comparative statistics. Remember that you Republicans vowed not to accept any of Obama's legislation, and worked very hard to make his presidency a failure. Remember that you Republicans worked very hard to prevent this kind of progress, something really akin to treason when you consider the effect on the well-being of Americans.

UNDER W. BUSH Unemployment UNDER OBAMA NOW
7.2%. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5.1%

Cost of gas/gallon
$3.24. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2.31

Uninsured rate
15%. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9.2%

Barrels of Oil Imported
11 M. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4.5 M

Number of Iran Centrifuges
19,000. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6,000

GDP Growth
-0.3%. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.7%

Dow Jones
10,355. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 18,150

Very good! It's nice to start the day with a laugh!!!

IMPORTANT QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NEW BATHROOM RULES.
WHO WILL PAY THE PECKER CHECKER?
Will public rest rooms be required to hire Pecker Checker Inspectors?
Who will pay the Pecker Checker?
How much will a Pecker Checker make?
Will a Pecker Checker be paid by the peck?
How many peckers can a Pecker Checker check when a Pecker Checker checks peckers?
If things get out of hand, so to speak, when they hire PC Restroom Pecker Checkers, will their motto be?
"IF YA GOTTA PEE, WE GOTTA SEE!"

What is the true nature of Islam? It appears to be destruction and then slavery of the women and especially the children.
The crusade, spoken of by Obama, as sparking the Muslim murderous response over 1400 years ago belies ancient history.
The loss of life during the crusades (5) over a 200 to 300 year period, which concluded 800 years ago, is approximately 1.7 million which also included death from decease, starvation, as well as battle, whereas the amount of deaths in the Islamic slaughter would be 279 million deaths of Christians, Jews, Hindus,
Buddhas, and Muslims in the 1400 years reign of terror.
Even today the murderous Muslims have committed over 19.000 attacks on innocent people since 9/11 (2002-2011).
To pray to Allah is to pray to a moon god, Islam is NOT a religion! It is a fraud!

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Scarlett Johansson, Sexing Up The Bible Won’t Defeat Christianity

As a Christian, I don’t know if it’s good form to give tactical advice to those on the other side of the spiritual warfare battlefield. Since I don’t desire Christianity’s destruction, I probably shouldn’t offer any pointers for how to accomplish this to those want to raze the world’s sanctuaries and tango atop the rubble.

On the other hand, Jesus did promise that the gates of hell will not prevail against his church, so giving despisers of the faith a more effective strategy to accomplish a goal they’ll never accomplish is a bit of a sanctified brag, a holy boast in the Savior whose supposed weakness is infinitely stronger than the strength of his enemies. So, in response to Scarlett Johansson reading sections of the Bible in a “porn voice” on “Saturday Night Live” writer Mike O’Brien’s upcoming comedy album, let’s go with the other hand.

For Johansson, O’Brien, and those such as Ron Dicker of Huffington Post, who found this comedic collaboration to be delightful, I get it. You don’t like Christianity. You believe its teachings are a blight on progressive society, so you’ve selected humor as your weapon to erode its influence. “Let’s sexify sections of scripture to show Christians that what they hold to be sacred is foolish and should have no role in our world.” This seems to be your battle strategy.

The problem with this strategy, however, is that it doesn’t offer Christians anything of substance in place of what you’re trying to take away from them. True, cultural Christians who have no interest in suffering for the gospel may quickly run away from your bullets of mockery. But if you want to defeat the actual Christian soldiers who are marching off to war, you’ll have to convince them to join your ranks by showing them that you have something worth fighting for. As difficult as it may be to believe, the nothingness of sexual libertinism that you offer is not a suitable replacement for those who trust in the everything-ness of the gospel.

Sex Is a Lame Little God

By having Johansson mockingly moan the words of Moses, you seem to be saying to Christians, “You don’t get this kind of pornographic ecstasy on God’s battlefield, so come join our side and it’s all yours.” While this may be an enticing offer for those who have, since puberty, never worshipped anything other than their libidos, it’s not a terribly attractive option to those who already worship something of slightly higher worth, namely the God who created the heavens and the earth.

Those who serve the God who first served them by taking on human flesh won’t be persuaded when you say, “Okay, but wouldn’t you rather serve nothing but your own flesh instead?” Believers who find immeasurable joy in Christ’s forgiveness and therefore want to live according to his commandments won’t believe you when you promise them greater joy by living a lifestyle that everyone who’s ever had a promiscuous friend knows yields tons of regret and emptiness and nary an ounce of lasting happiness.

Those who rejoice to belong to a fellowship that transcends space and time, tribes and cultures, and unites heaven and earth together won’t trade a life overflowing with eternal meaning for a life of sexual libertinism that epitomizes meaninglessness.

Try This Instead, Scarlett Johansson

So for the O’Briens and Johanssons and everyone sympathetic to their cause, I know we’re on opposite sides of the spiritual battlefield, but let me offer you a better way. Instead of trying to defeat Christianity with nothing, try hacking away at God’s kingdom with something, anything that has some degree of substance.

If you want to mock the Bible, do it like the Koran does in Surah 4:157-158. It dismisses Jesus’s crucifixion in a way that essentially says, “Christians, let go of your weak God and follow Allah the powerful, who would never allow his prophets to suffer a shame like this.” If you want to tear down churches, at least invite people into the mosque you’ve built atop the cathedral’s ruins. [/color=maroon]If you want to take away the Christian’s deep, meaningful, and true set of beliefs, make sure you’re ready to give him another deep, meaningful, yet untrue set of beliefs in exchange.[/color]

As the Islamic conquests of Christian lands has shown, this is a pretty effective way to gain defectors from Christ’s ranks who “went out from us but were not of us,” as 1 John 2:19 puts it.

Or, if trading one religion for another doesn’t win your war (and if your life’s goal is, as it seems, unrestricted access to fornication, it probably won’t), try the nationalistic approach. If you want people to stop believing in the Almighty God, sell them on the Almighty State.

Like the c*******ts, convince them that a government free of Christian dogma and superstition is the only force that can solve humanity’s problems and end the world’s injustices. Tell those who want to be one with God that together as one we can be God himself. Offer citizens pledges of allegiance to the Invincible Government and, as history has shown, some of them might just hand over their Christian creeds.

Not to Say It Will Work

Granted, neither of these approaches will work. Even if you jihad with the best of them, you won’t actually triumph over any of God’s elect. And even if you give all glory and honor to the state, the state will eventually fail, spectacularly, at being God, and Christ will continue building his church atop the ashes of empires. Plus, the more you persecute the church, the more you’ll exacerbate your own defeat.

Even if you jihad with the best of them, you won’t actually triumph.
So no matter how you wage war against the Triune God, you’ll still lose. But if you adopt one of these strategies, at least you’ll lose respectably. At least you can say you offered Christians a powerless something instead of an utter nothing in exchange for the absolute everything that is God’s kingdom.

Aim higher than Mike O’Brien and Scarlett Johansson and, when you consider the war you waged against God, at least you can say you waged it with a higher level of maturity than what you’d find in a “Porky’s” movie.

Hans Fiene is a Lutheran pastor in Illinois and the creator of Lutheran Satire, a series of comical videos intended to teach the Lutheran faith.

Vincent Bugliosi, famed Charles Manson prosecutor, published a book in 2012 about prosecuting George W. Bush for the murder of over 4,000 U.S. soldiers in Iraq. The evidence Bugliosi presents is highlighted in a movie titled "The Prosecution of an American President." The movie is especially interesting in the segment where Bugliosi presents his evidence to Congress.
The audience in the Congressional hearing bursts into applause for Bugliosi at one point. Congressional security goons use this as an excuse to arrest and throw many of the audience out.
Congress, as would be expected, ignores all the evidence Bugliosi presents. I saw the entire film on a free speech TV channel. You can watch the trailer here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9jkJ0wjtHQ

you talk as if you are running in circles. open your eyes some day. you might see or hear something other than democratic B.S. propaganda. don't worry rumi. I don't believe all the republican propaganda. I try to listen to both then see what really comes out in the end to see who is closer to the t***h. mostly BBC. some times FOX. but rarely a chanal pressured by the dems. although every once in a great while they are close to being closer to the t***h. I heard once "Know thine enemy"

Yes all reilgions did horrified crimes in the past in the name of their gods and goddress.however Obama today it is islam that is doing the horrific crimes against Christan ,Jews Hindus. andd other who do not believe. the same way they do. If Obama can't call out these murders then GOD help us all in the 2yrs. if that
It was Christan that end s***ery in the west it end some the horrors. of other reilgious customs like buring to death of widow woman of dead hindu husban or human sacifices. by the Aztecs or the Incans .it give us the freedom of speech ,of worship ,of private property. and the speration of CHURCH AND STATE (INTO CHURCH'AFFARIS NOT THE OTHER AROUND) So Obama is wrong on just about thing he has done

Quoting bible scripture to one who doesn't think the bible is the word of "God" or divinely inspired or magical or what ever, is a waste of time. The creationists worship and believe their "holy book" more than they believe "God". They equate the Bible with "God". Those who do not buy into the creation stories or the supernatural events of the bible are not swayed by the threat of judgement. We do not think it will happen. We think it is a fairy tale essentially. We believe there is a God, which is evident in the light of all we see in the world around us, but we do not believe the bible stories written about someones God stories. Of course, some do not think there is any God or higher being, but that's not a problem either. Its not a rejection meant to hurt or insult some higher being or God who might exists, they simply don't see it as being in existence.

So anyway, Bible verses should only be used on those who actually believe the Bible.