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Jun 19, 2024 19:52:59   #
saltwind 78 wrote:
Ri-chard, You really are pro Putin in spite of the fact that he invaded a peaceful, democratic, peace loving country that is a friend of the West. Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons when the USSR broke up, for a guarantee of peace with Russia. Putin broke that agreement. Maybe we should give the Ukraine the number of nukes it gave up.


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Jun 19, 2024 18:19:50   #
Milosia2 wrote:
Hooray !!!!!!
Winning again !!!!
You were assuming they wouldn’t be pointed at you . Weren’t you ????


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Jun 19, 2024 18:18:44   #
woodguru wrote:
So why are trump supporter's heads so deeply up their butts about whether people support him? The idea that loving or hating trump has anything to do with loving or hating the country or the people that blindly support an i***t is beyond comprehension.

Loving trump does not mean you love the country, they are unrelated entities, those who are opposed to trump in all probability do it because they care about the damage trump is doing to the country.


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Jun 19, 2024 17:19:17   #
billlingle wrote:
Fat Donny is a nit wit. His entire persona is a flight of fancy. Unfortunately there is no one in his undisclosed location except "King" Donny on his imaginary throne.


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Jun 19, 2024 17:17:25   #
Milosia2 wrote:
Yep !
Pole dancers for trump !
Give up your dollars !!!!!
Daddy needs your l**t. !!!!!


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Jun 19, 2024 16:24:54   #
Parky60 wrote:
When you pay taxes, remember that the bottom 20% of income earners do almost no work, do not pay taxes, and receive government aid. The next lowest 20% pay minimal taxes but also receive government support.

Considering credits, the bottom half effectively pay about $667 per year. In contrast, the top 1% of income earners contribute roughly 39% of all federal income taxes, and the top 10% pay about 70% of the total federal income taxes. Most of the rest is paid by the Middle-income earners.

Households in the bottom 20% of income often pay little to no federal income taxes due to low taxable income and tax credits such as the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) and the Child Tax Credit (CTC). According to the Tax Policy Center, about 44% of U.S. households pay no federal income tax, largely because of these credits and deductions.

Many low-income households receive t***sfer payments from government programs like Medicaid, Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), and housing assistance.

In 2023, about 70.6 million Americans received benefits from programs administered by the Social Security Administration (SSA), including Social Security and Supplemental Security Income (SSI). Additionally, millions more benefit from other social safety net programs. For example, in the 2022 fiscal year, approximately 41.2 million people received SNAP benefits.

There is a claim that while low-income households may not contribute significantly to federal income taxes, they do contribute to other forms of taxation such as payroll taxes, sales taxes, and property taxes on their homes. However, these arguments are easily refuted.

The Social Security contributions of the low-income group are minimal because they earn less money and work less frequently. Middle-income and high-income groups pay more into Social Security, with the maximum contribution occurring at an income of $168,000.

Additionally, low-income workers can receive Supplemental Security Income (SSI), a needs-based program that provides cash assistance to disabled adults and children with limited income and resources. SSI is not dependent on work history or contributions to Social Security.

The property tax argument falls apart because the poor are less likely to own a home. Property taxes are used to fund public schools, so people who do not pay property tax can still send their children to schools funded by other people’s property taxes under Title I.

A counter-argument is that renters indirectly pay property taxes through their rent payments, which landlords use to cover property taxes. However, in the old tenement system, there was a building owner who paid property taxes.

In the new system of projects and state housing, the government is the owner, and no property taxes are paid. Therefore, all the funding for local schools must come from other taxpayers in other neighborhoods.

Middle- and high-income earners contribute significantly to payroll taxes, which fund Social Security and Medicare. Self-employed individuals pay both the employer and employee portions of these taxes, effectively paying double.

Middle- and high-income individuals often own businesses and create jobs, contributing to the economy and generating employment opportunities, while also paying the employer’s share of payroll taxes. This entrepreneurial activity supports economic growth and can lead to increased tax revenues.

Another cost that taxpayers must bear is crime. Evidence shows that higher crime rates are associated with lower-income areas. Property crimes and other criminal activities impose significant costs on taxpayers due to law enforcement, judicial processes, and correctional services.

Addressing crime and its social costs involves substantial public expenditure. However, individuals living in high-crime areas tend to pay little or no income tax. As a result, the cost of policing these areas falls on taxpayers in other neighborhoods, diverting money from public services in taxpaying areas to the policing of non-paying areas.

Research from the Center for Poverty and Ine******y Research at UC Davis suggests that a significant portion of children who grow up in poverty and receive public assistance continue to rely on these programs into adulthood.

Approximately one-third to one-half of children who experience poverty for a substantial part of their childhood remain poor as adults. A study by the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) found that welfare receipt among parents significantly increases the likelihood of welfare participation among their children. This intergenerational correlation suggests that welfare use is, to some extent, a learned behavior, perpetuating the cycle of dependency.

In short, nearly the bottom half of the population is either paying no taxes, very little taxes, and/or receiving benefits. Every new social program for the non-payers represents a forced t***sfer of wealth from the working to the non-working and a t***sfer of government services from the taxpaying to the non-taxpaying.
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Jun 19, 2024 16:22:06   #
pegw wrote:
President Biden knows about what questions will be asked, so does Trump. President Biden would be a fool if he didn't rehearse how he answers them. Same goes for Trump. I bet Trump will go off script and make a fool of himself, this loosing the debate.


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Jun 19, 2024 15:40:48   #
Milosia2 wrote:
Bring your long guns !!!!
You’ll be easier to spot.
As a Terrorist in a free country. !!!


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Jun 19, 2024 15:39:51   #
Milosia2 wrote:
“America First” is Un American !
It’s a F*****t N**i Proposition !
And since when is stopping a crazy man with a bullhorn in Un American. ?
He has no Plan other than the total destruction of you. !
Yes , YOU !
And your stupid American Bulls**t. !!!
Think about that. !!!
America First -
AKA
Pole Dancers For Trump !!!!
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Jun 19, 2024 15:35:58   #
woodguru wrote:
Trump seemed to be very clear how he felt about Hillary shouldn't be able to run while under indictment...his words were that a sitting president under indictment would grind government to a halt. I'm not sure what's so different about him grinding government to a halt.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/v***l-tiktok-resurfaces-video-of-trump-saying-us-shouldn-t-have-a-president-with-a-felony-conviction/ar-BB1nCp7M


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Jun 19, 2024 15:34:33   #
woodguru wrote:
There are a multitude of real reasons that it made no sense for trump to stay 90 miles away from the convention, except that is was a huge grift to be able to charge the government $1100 for rooms for the secret service detail. I'm pretty sure the most biased trump supporters have enough of a head for common sense logistics to be able to see that there would be massively more difficult logistics in having to drive 90 miles...or perhaps the idea was to use a helicopter to get there, I can't imagine trump wanting to ride in a car for two hours each way.

The man has no regards for unnecessarily incurred expenses or inconvenience to the secret service.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/18/us/politics/trump-milwaukee-rnc.html
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Jun 19, 2024 15:32:43   #
woodguru wrote:
Freedom of information requests have resulted in information concerning how much trump has been charging the government for his secret service related expenses, and that includes room charges as high as $1100 per room when the going rate is a quarter of that. He has charged ludicrous fees for golf cart rentals, in fact enough that they could buy their own golf carts for less money.

He has turned overcharges for secret service into a high margin grift venture...


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Jun 19, 2024 15:32:03   #
woodguru wrote:
Anyone that believes they can make a prediction now is truly delusional...

And look for the ever growing signs that trump is losing his grip on the hearts and minds of people...real muricans are waking up to what a despicable liar trump is, and e******ns are way too close for him to even lose a few percent of any support he used to have.


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Jun 19, 2024 15:31:06   #
woodguru wrote:
They certainly should be...it is extremely expensive for the secret service to do the extra security involved with campaign travel.

Taxpayers do not owe anyone a free ride, including a current president...and you can bet Biden is paying for campaign related expenses with his campaign funds.


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Jun 19, 2024 15:30:04   #
woodguru wrote:
The thing that trump's past administration never got was that there's a difference between people living here illegally and those who are here on visas, who are going through a process of going through courts and getting a legal status, not to mention those who were born here and have lived here all their lives.

Trump neither had or has any regard for the differences between people who are not involved in any path to legally being here or those who are not...and worse than that his administration of n**i thugs used legal applications by people going through the court system to pick these people up who are trusting a system to allow them to be part of a system that makes provisions for them to be here legally.

The way trump used legal applications and addresses to target those trying to go through a legal process was one of the most despicable and unhuman acts possible. It would not have been nearly so bad had he targeted people who are not going through the courts, but the breach of trust involved with going after easily targeted people who are complying with address and whereabouts is truly nasty.

The constitution allows for a legal path to citizenship, and to be here in the meantime...that is what trump was doing in violating the constitution.
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