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Apr 26, 2024 01:16:49   #
Nick Nicholson wrote:
And I agree that freedom is essential. And I suspect that our major departure in viewpoints involves economics. But, freedoms should not be used to hurt others or their freedoms. And it is a fact that uncontrolled capitalism has frequently led to revolt and initiating a c*******tic form of government. Examples include Russia, Cuba, China, Viet Nam. Cambodia, and others going back into feudal days. Therefore, for capitalism to flourish in an environment of freedom and e******y for all citizens, controls are necessary to maintain an acceptable level of e******y and an acceptable standard of living. The consequences of failure to do that have proven to be horrible in many cases. Over the last 55 years, it is my opinion that insufficient controls on American capitalism have been in place to maintain a stable economic situation. The standard of living for workers has been gradually falling since about 1968. In that period, the already wealthy have increased their share of all the wealth in America to approximately 50 percent from the 35 percent in the 1960s. The working class, of course, lost that same percentage, resulting in a significant reduction in their standard of living. Fact is that today, nearly 40 percent of American workers are paid a wage defined as below federally cited poverty. I suspect what is going on in America today is the civil unrest due to the continuing loss in quality of life in the working class. I have cited, in articles in this forum, the reasons this is happening and the laws congress has passed at the behest of the wealthy and corporate interests that are directly responsible for the losses to the working class. I predict that if this doesn't change in the not very distant future, civil unrest will lead to civil war. Fortunately for me, I will be in my grave before that happens. At least I hope that is the case. A republican said it best. See the memes.
And I agree that freedom is essential. And I susp... (show quote)


Couple of things: In addition to taking in real refugees, Eisenhower also initiated Operation Wetback the largest mass deportation of i******s in our history.
As for the 90% tax bracket, the politicians also inaugurated a bunch of tax shelters for the truly wealthy who donated copiously to both parties so they could shield most of their money from any taxation. If you have $1000, and $990 is in a shelter, who cares if the other ten gets taxed outrageously?
By the way, regarding INCOME,
https://www.freedomlawschool.org/posts/the-us-supreme-court-definition-of-income

Believe it or not, "income" is not defined ANYWHERE in 26 USC, the Internal Revenue Code. The SCOTUS held in
Eisner v. Macomber, 252 U.S. 189 (1920) was "gain" in the sense that it does not include necessary expenses, hence deductions.
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Apr 26, 2024 00:58:53   #
pegw wrote:
You were bullied in school, so was I.
Don't worry, the whole campus protests for Palestinian rights will go away in less than a month. Unfortunately, they will still be starving.


They have been sent enough aid to feed twice their number. They can thank the terrorists that THEY elected for stealing their food.
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Apr 26, 2024 00:56:37   #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Kids suck...
I've been called r****t names by Indians and Punjabis...
Don't think any nation is free from it..


You tell 'em, round eyes. LOL
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Apr 26, 2024 00:52:51   #
Lily wrote:
Here Are The 3 Most Shocking Discoveries Just Unsealed In Trump Classified Docs Case
From: Brianna Layman

Judge Aileen Cannon unsealed a trove of documents Monday that appear to reveal a coordinated effort within the Biden administration to target Donald Trump with political prosecution after he left office.

Special Counsel Jack Smith and other federal prosecutors in President Biden’s Department of Justice (DOJ) indicted Trump in June 2023 for allegedly mishandling classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago home. The indictment followed an unprecedented raid on a former president’s home the prior summer.

President Biden also retained classified documents after leaving the vice presidency. Yet he was not charged because prosecutors say they believed he would “present himself to the jury, as he did during our interview with him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory.”

Here are the three most shocking revelations in the lawfare case against Trump thanks to the newly unsealed documents, in part as pointed out by independent reporter Julie Kelly on X.

1. DOJ Threatened Lawyer’s Judicial Nomination

Jay Bratt, the special counsel’s lead prosecutor, allegedly threatened Trump staff member Walt Nauta’s attorney, Stanley Woodward, with sabotaging his judicial nomination to the Superior Court of the District of Columbia if he could not get Nauta to turn on Trump, according to a newly unsealed motion originally filed in June 2023. Nauta served in Trump’s White House and remained a personal aide to the president after he left office.

The motion requested D.C. District Chief Judge James Boasberg order the “disclosure of certain grand jury materials identified by counsel as likely to reflect misconduct by the government before the grand jury.”

During Woodward and Bratt’s first meeting, which took place two weeks after Mar-a-Lago was raided on August 24, 2022, Woodward “was led to a conference room where Mr. Bratt awaited with what appeared to be a folder containing information about Mr. Woodward,” according to the motion.

“Mr. Bratt thereupon told Mr. Woodward he didn’t consider him to be a ‘Trump lawyer,’ and he further said that he was aware that Mr. Woodward had been recommended to President Biden for an appointment to the Superior Court of the District of Columbia,” the motion continues. “Mr. Bratt followed up with words to the effect of ‘I wouldn’t want you to do anything to mess that up.’ Thereafter, Mr. Bratt advised Mr. Woodward that ‘one way or the other’ his client, Walt Nauta, would be giving up his lavish lifestyle of ‘private planes and golf clubs’ and he encouraged Mr. Woodward to persuade Mr. Nauta to cooperate with the government’s investigation (this was prior to the appointment of the Special Counsel).”

The motion argues Bratt’s “statement suggested a quid pro quo or even a threat intended to cause Mr. Woodward to persuade his client to cooperate with Mr. Bratt…Under such circumstances, it is appropriate for the Court to ease the secrecy protections typically afforded by Rule 6(e) so that it may determine if similar egregious behavior has made its way into this unprecedented investigation, particularly regarding the testimony of Mr. Nauta.”

The DOJ described the incident as follows: “Bratt also informed Woodward that the Government was interested in obtaining Nauta’s potential cooperation and resolving his situation.”

“At no point during the meeting did Woodward suggest that any of the prosecutors’ comments were improper,” the DOJ argued.

Woodward and his partner stated in a letter to Boasberg that their “representation of Mr. Nauta was not adversely impacted” by the alleged discussion and that they had not “complained about the statements in the August 24 meeting” but were bringing it to light after learning “the conduct exhibited in the August 24 meeting may not have been isolated.”

Smith also said the allegations were referred to the DOJ’s Office of Professional Responsibility at Bratt’s request before lamenting that the defense dared to accuse a government official of threatening a private citizen’s lawyer. Smith said it was “wholly without merit” for the defense to allege that Bratt — whom Smith noted had three decades worth of experience — would threaten Woodward with retaliation.

[b[2. White House Involved From The Start[/b]

Following Trump’s departure from office, the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) began “to work with the White House Office of Records Management on exaggerated claims related to records handling under the P**********l Records Act (PRA),” a motion to compel discovery from Trump’s attorney’s states.

NARA General Counsel Gary Stern sent a letter to Trump’s PRA “representatives” in May of 2021 in which he said he “had several conversations” with the White House’s Office of Records Management and had raised some “concerns,” presumably about the documents in question, with NARA Archivist David Ferriero, according to pictures of the new, less-redacted filing posted by Kelly.

Stern’s letter noted that “things were very chaotic, as they always are in the course of a one-term t***sition” and acknowledged t***sferring the documents would take “several more months,” according to the filing. Ferriero, however, said in June 2021 he was “out of patience,” dismissing “good-faith efforts by President Trump’s PRA representatives to address issues raised by NARA,” according to the filing.

The filing alleges Ferriero then “threatened” one of Trump’s PRA representatives in August that he was presuming that 24 “alleged — and non-existent” boxes of records were “destroyed” and that Ferriero would report his claims of missing documents to the White House and Department of Justice.

By September, Stern was sending around a letter “that we could consider sending to the Attorney General about missing Trump records,” according to the filing. Stern also sent an email admitting he “informally reached out to the DOJ counsel about this issue” and that “WH counsel is now also aware of the issue, and has asked that I keep them in the loop to the extent that we make any reference to [WH-ORM],” according to the filing.

The filing alleges that Deputy White House Counsel Jonathan Su asked one of Trump’s PRA representatives to permit an undisclosed individual to access “notes from the Trump administration relating to records handling.” The filing alleges that Su did not disclose that NARA “had already drafted a referral letter and contacted DOJ.”

3. Trump’s Security Clearance Retroactively Revoked

Biden’s Department of Energy also allegedly revoked Trump’s security clearance after Smith indicted Trump in June 2023, according to a 2024 motion to compel discovery from Trump’s lawyers posted on X by Kelly.

The Energy Department’s “Central Personnel Clearance Index and Clearance Action Tracking System ‘reflect[ed] an active Q clearance’ for President Trump,” the unredacted motion states, according to Kelly’s post.

The DOE’s assistant general counsel then “instructed that the relevant systems ‘be immediately amended’ and ‘promptly modified to reflect the terminated status of [President] Trump’s Q clearance,'” the filing states.

Trump “requested additional disclosures relating to the Energy Department’s determination and other security clearance issues” but the office allegedly “declined to provide any additional information.”

Judicial Watch announced Monday it filed a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the Department of Energy for records relating to the alleged termination of Trump’s security clearance.


This is why the media says Trump will persecute political enemies. He has learned the tactic from them. Turn about could be fair play.
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Bear in mind the prosecutor in this case, Jack Smith, is a political whore whose main claim to fame is that he obtained a conviction against former VA Governor McDonald (R), which was overturned by a UNANIMOUS SCOTUS decision back when the court was dominated by Liberal Justices, due to prosecutorial misconduct.
That's right, boys and girls. Nine to zip. Even Ruth Ginsberg v**ed to overturn.
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Apr 26, 2024 00:48:59   #
PeterS wrote:
Sorry Rosebud, but a little brown isn't going to hurt your pearly white skin. As for Treason, look up J** 6th if you want to know what a t*****r looks like.


You should read the Constitutional definition of treason, cupcake. Or more likely, get someone to read it to you and explain what those big words mean.
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Apr 26, 2024 00:47:28   #
Ri-chard wrote:
Julie Kelly And Mike Davis Discuss President Trump’s Supreme Court Immunity Case - Video

Legal expert Mike Davis echoed these sentiments, foreseeing a narrow Supreme Court ruling in favor of p**********l immunity from criminal prosecution for official acts. Davis outlined potential scenarios, indicating a significant impact on ongoing cases, including those led by Special Counsel Jack Smith and District Attorney Fani Willis.

If the court favors Trump’s immunity, it could spell a historic victory for the former president and reshape the legal landscape surrounding his presidency.

https://warroom.org/house-members-inquiry-to-julie-kelly-signals-potential-shift-in-trumps-legal-battle/
Julie Kelly And Mike Davis Discuss President Trump... (show quote)


It also might interfere with the prosecution that the Senile S**tweasel currently occupying the White House so richly deserves.
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Apr 26, 2024 00:46:07   #
federally indicted mattoid wrote:
1. Where is the evidence that the framers of the Constitution intended a President to be free to commit treason, order political assassinations, and take bribes — while an unelected court of lifetime appointees signed off on his criminality?

2. Why are they slow walking the obvious decision they could make in an afternoon?


For once we agree. There should not be p**********l immunity. Otherwise how will we prosecute Biden?
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Apr 26, 2024 00:41:51   #
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
https://youtu.be/4cia_v4vxfE?si=fGwj_M5oo5gfGFW9 ---Clap for the wolf man --The guess who https://youtu.be/sfE5OaZBohA?si=kJ17EUCeXPjbloz4


Saw the Guess Who in the seventies. They are much better live than on record. Those Canucks tore it up.
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Apr 26, 2024 00:39:31   #
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
https://youtu.be/jm3TZmUb38g?si=h87WuC0rBRIG6aeK


Saw Kim Simmonds, the guitarist for Savoy Brown at a little college venue back around 2000, I think it was. He hadn't lost a lick.
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Apr 26, 2024 00:37:45   #
Just when you thought the snowflakes couldn't get any more offended. An MLB pitcher was forced to remove his glove because it had an American f**g on it. Same glove he has used for years with no issue.

https://www.westernjournal.com/chicago-cubs-pitcher-forced-remove-glove-american-f**g-distraction/

Never, EVER doubt the ability of a bed-wetting Liberal Leg Humper to get offended over anything.
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Apr 25, 2024 21:27:08   #
Rose42 wrote:
You look foolish when you start with your silly maga yip yap. Its your irrational fallback

Your position is indeed absurd.


It needs some clarification and a bit more erudition to rise to the level of absurdity.
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Apr 25, 2024 21:26:01   #
TJKMO wrote:
I understand EXACTLY what the problem is.
Admit it, so do you.


The problem is people like you who think that disarming honest people will prevent crime. You probably think that leaving your home unlocked deters burglary. While you're at it, you should look into confiscating the cars of non-drinkers to stop drunk driving. That should nip it in the bud.
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Apr 25, 2024 21:21:13   #
TJKMO wrote:
More PROOF MAGA is a DEATH CULT.


I merely suggested you engage in some agility exercises. Never can tell when they might come in handy.
What a shame you weren't given a plugged in toaster as a bathtub toy when you were a sprout.
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Apr 25, 2024 21:09:24   #
Wolf counselor wrote:
Contrary to the beliefs of my Christian friends, I believe that we are already living in heaven right now.

I believe that I don't have to wait for the return of Jesus nor do I fear the place you call hell.

Because just as I believe that the earth is my heaven, it is also a living hell for some of you poor q***rg****red nincompoops.

The earth is heaven for those who take advantage of the basic words of the being that Christians call God.

But ironically, the vast majority of people who call themselves Christian are totally ignorant of the secrets that are there in their own Bible.

We're in heaven right now but some of you Goobers just don't know it yet.

I can't imagine anything in heaven more beautiful than the wildflowers on the back 12 of my little Texas Shangri-la.

Me and the Angel love the drive from here to town because all the way in both directions, it's a living masterpiece of nature's beauty.

Every single spring it's a literal wildflower explosion.

I'm really sorry that so many of the rest of my fellow Americans can't see the heaven we've inherited .

They're all too busy beating each other over the heads about what amounts to be just a bunch of political bulls**t.

I've washed my hands of it all and I'm on to greener pastures.

America has millions of acres of heavenly places.

Me and my Angel have decided to see some of them while we still can.

My uncle who lives in Las Vegas, gave me the keys to the Mojave compound to use as a base camp when we're out west.

We're mapping out a couple of excursions up to northern California with a few interesting stops along the way.

Since we live in heaven, we're gonna act like it and enjoy all this wonderful stuff that The Creator has given us.

So don't look for heaven up in the sky my friends.

Just take a look around you and you'll find that................." We're Already There "
Contrary to the beliefs of my Christian friends, ... (show quote)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bRwskEg5wA
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Apr 25, 2024 12:26:57   #
NotMAGA wrote:
That's because Lincoln was. Republican. The party didn't begin until 8 years or thereabouts before he was elected president.

And just like today, some Southern Republicans loved black people so much they thought that they should use some of the debt payments for WWI to ship all black people back to Africa. MAGA

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/02/20/mississippi-black-africa-mccallum/


You seem to forget that Lincoln wanted to send them back also.
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