woodguru wrote:
Contrary to the Trump's right wing position that the Iran deal was "a horrible deal", mainly because anything Obama did was a horrible deal, the horrible deal did accomplish things. The things it accomplished took years to negotiate, and brought a unified agreement between key nations, including China and Russia.
Tens of thousands of centrifuges were taken offline, leaving specific types for medical use
weapons grade reactor cores were filled with concrete
weapons grade materials were removed from Iran
Several nations were watching like a hawk for deviations of agreements
Inspections controls were part of the deal
These deals meant that it set Iran back many years toward being able to proceed as they were, leaving years to intervene
Economically trade deals were good for the world's econy being able to sell goods to 80 million people
If Trump could get a fraction of what this deal provided with North Korea he would be a hero. It will never happen. Kim has a long record of agreeing to anything and then not adhering to it. Kim is set to be the winner, he will effectively have trade sanctions lifted and start exerting an influence if not control over South Korea. Trump is going to get Kim making agreements that he comes back bragging about getting the best deals, other presidents have too and they didn't mean anything. Kim most likely has a whole array of his failed experiments he's ready to give up and destroy in order to make Trump look good. He also has a substantial array of conventional weapons that will not be on the negotiating table. Trump does not have what it takes to put the negotiating team together and put a deal together with Kim that means anything. Meanwhile Kim will have his trade sanctions lifted.
Obama's "horrible" deal, which by the way our military and intelligence advisers were saying and still say have been adhered to by Iran, brought a stability to that part of the middle east. Iran has 80 million people, does any country want a war fought in Iran that makes it as uninhabitable as so many other countries in the middle east have been rendered?
So our i***t in chief who sees attacking a relatively stable country as an option to solve the problem that actually had been solved is willing to blow Iran wide open in the same way Syria has been. The same allies will be involved in that proxy war where Russia is going to be backing the regime we will be fighting. Trump has done the thing to set the table for war, he has used years old information about Iran's nuclear status that is no longer true.
I'm suspecting that Russia (Putin) is about to drive the final wedge that caps this country as the world's leader, which it is no longer. Russia and China signed onto this deal with NATO, what is to keep Russia and China, as well as every other country from honoring their sanctions lifting and maintaining the deal as is? The US cannot attack Iran against the combined solidarity of the rest of the world. China and Russia would like to see the US destabilized to the degree that the world's currency is not the dollar. If you are sitting in Putin's shoes he has gotten from Trump what no other president including Pence would have ever given up. We are no longer the world leaders we once were, other countries are stepping into the void.
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It is interesting that liberals take a posture of negotiating very weak, non-treaty, deals using tax-payer money that have no long term sustainability. Giving zealot lunatics 150 billion dollars to spread h**e, radical Islam, munitions and the diabolical Hezbollah fanatics a license to k**l anyone they desire. I noticed that you made no discussion of the fact based Isrealy expose of the secret Iranian nuclear weapons development program that still exists. Nevel Chamberlain would be proud of you article in support of Iran.`