Sad but true. First thing we have to do is take our country back from the banks and corporate control. Get rid of potus and half of congress. I had a scary sad conversation with my 25 year old son who said he will v**e for Hillary if she gets nomination. I listed off everything she has been suspected of doing: emails, bengazzi, murder, corruption and her f**e foundation. His answer was it was just a conspiracy by the GOP. I wanted to cry because he was so blinded to this woman's lies. Unfortunately I think there are still too many people just like him.

I had a stroke in 2010 and at one point was legally dead. The only thing I remember is coming out of my coma and trying to figure out where I was. There was no bright light only the realization of blacking out and then waking up not knowing what had occurred. I don't doubt your sincerity but I honestly don't think there is one reality for believers and another for those of us who don't.

And I don't think we have any choice anymore than we had a choice in being born. I know far too many people, even theists, who sincerely don't believe in Christ but are good, decent people, and a credit to society as a whole. God's going to condemn them to hell when their only sin is not believing in Christ? That is the type of action I would consider evil and such a god I want no part of...

I wasn't talking about the bible but those who believe in it. All religion is based on irrationalism--that is, what you believe in is based on the (irrational) supernatural world not the (rational) natural the rest of us live in. And whether inductive and deductive logic is used in the study of the bible is irrelevant--you still are making assumptions that cannot be proved rationally. For example, our upcoming armageddon in Sept, or Oct, or soon after...maybe, has been 'prophesized' by a half dozen or so here on OPP, including you, and I am willing to bet that no two methodologies used to reach that conclusion are the same. So inductive and deductive reasoning? If you want to call it that, but if others can't repeat the methodology it's pretty useless--unless, of course, it really is the end of the world. Now maybe something will happen but do we even know exactly what that it is? If so, I haven't heard it. So, as it is, anything can happen and Conservative Christians can claim--see, this is it, told you so!!!--even though, no one knows exactly what it was that was suppose to happen be it larger or be it small.

Now understand Blade--my accusation is that CC's live in a world of fallacies. A fallacy isn't a lie, only something that could be false or could be true so we choose the one that we want to believe at the time. I assume it is a more secure world then one where things have to be certain--but it's not a world where rational t***h will ever, ever be known....

Evening Marcus and Your welcome.. I put out what I read not trying to slant it one way or the other...Thank You for your recommendation to read Robert M. Price..The only book I ever read of his was Prophecy and Palimpsest, where he outlines the case for a human rather than divine origin of the book, arguing that it is "a modern pseudepigraph, the work of Joseph Smith himself," the founder of the Latter-day Saints. "The Book of Mormon never existed as a set of golden plates in a foreign language" handed down by the angel Moroni, but was Smith's way of presenting America's frontier heritage in biblical language. His portrayal of American Christianity was really just a reflection of what he thought Christianity ought to become, and his fictionalized image of the biblical past was a mirror of the way he thought things ought to be."
Gave me thoughts to consider, didn't challenge "my faith" as I'm always looking for answers....

I've read a couple of things you have posted and don't necessarily disagree with your analogy but that's what I define it..Your analogy vs mine...

I enjoy the learning curve of anyone's opinion and Thank you for yours..

We must agree to disagree....