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Oct 2, 2015 15:43:21   #
She Wolf wrote:
While we do not call them Angels, I know higher spiritual beings exist. I know because I have met a few. One was a homeless man and one was an elderly gentleman feeding the ducks in our pond.

Both had messages of hope for me. I met both at the lowest points in my life. In their presents there was a calm, I had never experienced before or since. The wisdom of how to survive these losses was very simple and yet made all the difference in the world.

Call me crazy but I know what I know. I thank my God for these beings. Both times I was at a cross road, I could easily have made the wrong choice but for the simple kindness of these two I was able to see the t***h.

My Grand kids ask me just what I was smoking when I saw these beings. The answer is nothing. I prayed for guidance and I received guidance. Not the simple fix I wanted but exactly what I needed.
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I strongly suggest, you get help
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Sep 18, 2015 15:43:11   #
Loki wrote:
There is no need to change the Amendment. The Amendment does NOT grant automatic citizenship to the children of wetbacks.
The author of the citizenship clause was Senator Jacob Howard of Michigan. He specifically stated in his comments that the Amendment was to guarantee full citizenship rights to former s***es only. He specifically said it was not intended to grant citizenship to Indians, to children of diplomatic personnel, and children of those in the country illegally. Go to the key phrase, "subject to the jurisdiction thereof." The author of the damn thing said that the people I mentioned, which includes wetbacks and their brats are not considered "subject to the jurisdiction thereof,"because they are citizens of a foreign nation. This is why Indians were not allowed citizenship until 1924. They were considered citizens of their Indian nations, and not citizens "subject to the jurisdiction thereof. While the Supreme Court has never ruled, per se, on this issue, in two of it's cases, Elk v Wilkins 1884, and US v Wong Kim Ark 1898, it did skirt the subject.
One of the findings of Elk v Wilkins was that John Elk, an Indian, was not a citizen because he was considered a foreigner, a citizen of his Indian nation and not subject to the jurisdiction of the US, in the same sense that a citizen is. Elk was born to 2 non-citizens, and was considered a non-citizen himself, and this was 14 years after the ratification of the 14th Amendment.
In US v Wong Kim Ark, the court ruled that Wong Kim was a citizen, by virtue of being born in this country to parents who were here LEGALLY. Proponents of birthright citizenship neglect that last little codicil.
In 1982, Justice Warren Burger offered a personal opinion that children of i******s had citizenship, but it was never taken up by the Court, and a personal opinion by one Justice has no legal value whatsoever.

Democrats support birthright citizenship because they see an unending pool of poorly educated v**ers who will work for bulls**t wages and v**e overwhelmingly Democratic.
Republicans are in the pockets of the same business interests that own the Democrats also.
The Amendment has 5 sections. The fifth section gives Congress the authority to amend or change the legislation. Anyone who claims it will take a constitutional Amendment is full of s**t.
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I understand the 14th exactly like you said. Jumping across a border and dumping a child is not what the 14th amendment said.
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Aug 13, 2015 16:27:36   #
bdamage wrote:
Nothing to see here....right?

Russia and NATO 'actively preparing for war'

Rival war games by Russian armed forces and NATO represent greatest build up of military tension in Europe since Cold War, warns think tank
By Roland Oliphant, Moscow
12:01AM BST 12 Aug 2015

Russia and NATO are actively preparing for war with one another amid the greatest build up of military tension in Europe since the end of the Cold War, a new report says.

Rival exercises by the Russian armed forces and Nato have led to several near-miss incidents that could result in confrontation between the two sides, and leaders need to consider a new arms control treaty to avert the possibility of heightened tensions spilling into war.

The report by the European Leadership Network, a think tank, comes amid the most intense fighting for six months in eastern Ukraine and as Michael Fallon, the defence minister, pledged to expand a British army training mission to Ukraine.

“We do not suggest that the leadership of either side has made a decision to go to war or that a military conflict between the two is inevitable, but that the changed profile of exercises is a fact and it does play a role in sustaining the current climate of tensions in Europe,” the authors write.
Full story:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11797351/Russia-and-Nato-actively-preparing-for-war.html
Nothing to see here....right? br br Russia and NA... (show quote)


Russia does not want war. They have conscripts for their troops. That is except their Special opps. Most of the conscripts are drunks. They also are in a very tight financial situation. They will bluster and B/S Obama because Obama is a coward. They will however, never do anything to d**g the U.S. into total war.
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Aug 12, 2015 11:09:55   #
fiatlux wrote:
Trump for president? This is so ludicrous, it is like PeeWee Herman for Bathroom Monitor. All hope for America is surely gone when they make such a prejudiced and opportunistic man their first choice. Utterly appalling and terribly sad. So it ain't so, America.


like the ludicrous Obama nut we now have?A dog could be better than the crazy Demonut we now have. He even said he could get elected again if he could run. I wish to hell he could run. he would not get 30% of v**e, counting the felons and dead people.
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Aug 12, 2015 11:05:58   #
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
In his first interview since the debates he has made it clear that the Republican party is to treat him fair or he has not ruled out running as a third party candidate. This scares the crap out of them. Trump means business. He is the front runner. Expect a lot of butt kissing this primary season.


Will somebody get the 4/20/2010 interview between Megyn Kelly and Howard Stern. I have listened to it. She talks about sex in the 3rd trimester, penis size. and a bunch of just plain whore talk. I don't think the Trump people know about this. This would ruin the prissy ass Kelly.
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Jul 12, 2015 18:42:26   #
since you have to be a Yankee, is this the reason you are in hiding?
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Jul 12, 2015 17:43:57   #
I believe the only salvation for America is the rise of the South again. The South now has plenty of weapons, ammo, and lots of food. This time we don't have to throw rocks. We also have lots of weapon manufactures. We have thought for awhile now, that we would have to do this all over again, too get it right this time.
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Jul 12, 2015 17:39:40   #
Doc110 wrote:
7/10/15 Judicial Watch Exposes Details of Obama Administration Conspiracy To Jail Political Opponents

http://www.judicialwatch.org/

The scandal about the Lerner emails and court obstruction is just for starters.  This week, JW made headlines with new documents we forced out of the Department of Justice and IRS. 

Well, I guess the South may grow with all the people getting scared. We here, in the South all have guns and more. I can't wait for Obama and his libtards friends to try to take over the South. This time we have guns, and ammo, and food. We also have a very good manufacturing base for weapons. Last time we fought with rocks at the end. The South will NEVER die.


The documents include an extraordinary "DOJ Recap" report detailing an October 2010 meeting between Lois Lerner, Justice Department prosecutors and the FBI to plan for the possible criminal prosecution of targeted nonprofit organizations for alleged illegal political activity.  Incredibly, the Obama IRS gave the FBI 21 computer disks, containing 1.25 million pages of confidential IRS returns from 113,000 nonprofit social 501(c)(4) welfare groups  - or nearly every 501(c)(4) in the United States - as part of its prosecution effort.

http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2014-06-09-DEI-Jordan-to-Koskinen-IRS-DOJ-Disks-tax-exempt-applications.pdf?

https://www.independentsector.org/scope_of_the_sector?





We pried this material loose under court orders in two Judicial Watch Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits: Judicial Watch v. Internal Revenue Service and Judicial Watch v. Department of Justice.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/jw-v-irs-1239-court-order/?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/complaint-file-stamped-case-1-14-cv-01956/?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/jw-v-doj-01239-public-integrity-irs/?





The October 11, 2010 "DOJ Recap" memo sent by IRS Exempt Organizations Tax Law Specialist Siri Buller to Lerner and other top IRS officials explaining an October 8 meeting with representatives from the Department of Justice Criminal Division's Public Integrity Section and "one representative from the FBI" to discuss the possible criminal prosecution of nonprofit organizations for alleged political activity:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/irs-consultation-14-cv-1956-32/?





On October 8, 2010, Lois Lerner, Joe Urban [IRS Technical Advisor, TEGE], Judy Kindell [top aide to Lerner], Justin Lowe [Technical Advisor to the Commissioner of Tax-Exempt and Government Entities], and Siri Buller met with the section chief and other attorneys from the Department of Justice Criminal Division's Public Integrity Section, and one representative from the FBI, to discuss recent attention to the political activity of exempt organizations.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joseph-urban/31/42a/758?

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/353729/targeting-top-irs-eliana-johnson?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/irs-consultation-14-cv-1956-70/?





The section's attorneys expressed concern that certain section 501(c) organizations are actually political committees "posing" as if they are not subject to FEC law, and therefore may be subject to criminal liability.

The attorneys mentioned several possible theories to bring criminal charges under FEC law.


In response, Lois and Judy eloquently explained the following points:


·         Under section 7805(b), we may only revoke or modify an organization's exemption retroactively if it omitted or misstated a material fact or operated in a manner materially different from that originally represented.

·         If we do not have these misrepresentations, the organization may rely on our determination it is exempt. However, the likelihood of revocation is diminished by the fact that section 501(c)(4)-(c)(6) organizations are not required to apply for recognition of exemption.

·         We discussed the hypothetical situation of a section 501(c)(4) organization 
that declares itself exempt as a social welfare organization, but at the end of the taxable year has in fact functioned as a political organization.

Judy explained that such an organization, in order to be in compliance, would simply file Form 1120-POL and paying tax at the highest corporate rate.




Lois stated that although we do not believe that organizations which are subject to a civil audit subsequently receive any type of immunity from a criminal investigation, she will refer them to individuals from CI who can better answer that question.

She explained that we are legally required to separate the civil and criminal aspects of any examination and that while we do not have EO law experts in CI, our FIU agents are experienced in coordinating with CI.


The attorneys asked whether a change in the law is necessary, and whether a three-way partnership among DOJ, the FEC, and the IRS is possible to prevent prohibited activity by these organizations. Lois listed a number of obstacles to the attorneys' theories:




[REDACTED]


She pointed to Revenue Ruling 2004-6, which was drafted in light of the e******neering communication rules before they were litigated.

Just prior this meeting, the IRS began the process of providing the FBI confidential taxpayer information on nonprofit groups. 

This resulted in a massive breach.  An IRS document confirms the IRS supplied the FBI with 21 disks containing 1.25 million pages of taxpayer records:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/irs-consultation-14-cv-1956-70/? 


FROM: Hamilton David K
SENT: Tuesday, October 5, 2010  2:49 PM
TO: Whittaker Sherry [Director, GE Program Management], Blackwell Robert M
SUBJECT: RE: Question


There are 113,000 C4 returns from January 1, 2007 to now. Assuming they want all pages including redacted ones, that's 1.25 million pages ... If we get started on it right away, before the 10th when the monthly extracts start, we can probably get it done in a week or so....




The Justice Department documents also include a July 16, 2013, email from an undisclosed Justice official to a lawyer for IRS employees asking that the Obama administration get information from congressional witnesses before Congress does:


One last issue. If any of your clients have documents they are providing to Congress that you can (or would like to) provide to us before their testimony, we would be pleased to receive them. We are 6103 authorized and I can connect you with TIGTA to confirm; we would like the unredacted documents.

Why would the Justice Department need to get the documents first ? 


Certainly not to help Congress or inform the American people. 

All this shows that the Obama IRS was one of several federal law enforcement agencies misused by President Obama's administration. 

The Justice Department and the FBI were used as law enforcement is often used in dictatorships - to try to silence and jail opposition to the dictator. 


Americans would never have known anything about this abuse but for Judicial Watch. 

On April 16, 2014, Judicial Watch forced the IRS to release documents revealing for the first time that Lerner communicated with the DOJ in May 2013 about whether it was possible to launch criminal prosecutions against targeted tax-exempt entities. The documents were obtained due to court order in an October 2013 Judicial Watch FOIA lawsuit filed against the IRS.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/jw-obtains-irs-documents-showing-lerner-contact-doj-potential-prosecution-tax-exempt-groups/?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/judicial-watch-v-irs-lawsuit/?




Those documents contained an email exchange between Lerner and Nikole C. Flax, then-chief of staff to then-Acting IRS Commissioner Steven T. Miller discussing plans to work with the DOJ to prosecute nonprofit groups that "lied" (Lerner's quotation marks) about political activities. The exchange included a May 8, 2013, email by Lerner:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/jw1559-00105/? 




I got a call today from Richard Pilger Director E******ns Crimes Branch at DOJ ... He wanted to know who at IRS the DOJ folk s [sic] could talk to about Sen.

Whitehouse idea at the hearing that DOJ could piece together false statement cases about applicants who "lied" on their 1024s -saying they weren't planning on doing political activity, and then turning around and making large visible political expenditures.

DOJ is feeling like it needs to respond, but want to talk to the right folks at IRS to see whether there are impediments from our side and what, if any damage this might do to IRS programs. I told him that sounded like we might need several folks from IRS...



The House Oversight Committee followed up on these Judicial Watch disclosures with hearings and interviews of Pilger and his boss, Justice Department Public Integrity Chief Jack Smith.

Besides confirming the Justice Department's 2013 communications with Lerner, Pilger admitted to the committee that Justice officials met with Lerner in October 2010. 

http://oversight.house.gov/release/testimony-2010-justice-department-sought-lois-lerners-help-prosecute-tax-exempt-groups-engaging-politics/?



We then uncovered new details about these meetings in December 2014 showing that it was the Obama Justice Department that initiated outreach to the IRS about prosecuting tax-exempt entities.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-lawsuit-forces-release-doj-emails-showing-irss-lois-lerner-met-doj-officials-just-2010-e******ns/?




Now, these new documents show that the Obama IRS scandal is also an Obama Justice Department and FBI scandal.  The FBI and Justice Department worked with Lois Lerner and the IRS to concoct reasons to put President Obama's opponents in jail before his ree******n. And this abuse resulted in the FBI's illegally obtaining confidential taxpayer information. 


Again, also following Judicial Watch's lead, the House also found out about the IRS t***smittal of the confidential taxpayer information to the FBI.  Because of this public disclosure, the FBI was forced to return the 1.25 million pages to the IRS. 


Why?  Because it was likely a crime to have received them. 

http://newstracking.judicialwatch.org/l/a/74i/p5/xp5r/55r/kt4r/click.emaildirect
http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2014/06/fbi_returned_database_on_tax-e.html?


Simply put, the FBI or a Justice Department prosecutor can't ask for and receive IRS records on thousands of Americans just because the government might want prosecute one taxpayer or one tax exempt organization.  The rules and the law are quite specific, as the IRS explains here. 

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p4639.pdf?




The Privacy Act, another law that makes it a crime to misuse certain government files, may also apply.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2012-title5/pdf/USCODE-2012-title5-partI-chap5-subchapII-sec552a.pdf?




The New York Post rightly suggests the need for a special prosecutor:

http://nypost.com/2015/07/07/the-irs-scandal-just-got-even-worse/?




The IRS scandal surfaced years ago - and for all the administration talk of a full investigation, this huge news is only surfacing now, and only thanks to Judicial Watch.


The news of FBI and Justice involvement in the IRS scandal makes the need for some special prosecutor to probe this mess even more obvious.
 
After all, as Judicial Watch's Fitton asks: "How can the Justice Department and the FBI investigate the very scandal in which they are implicated?"
7/10/15 Judicial Watch Exposes Details of Obama Ad... (show quote)
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Jul 12, 2015 17:38:56   #
Doc110 wrote:
7/10/15 Judicial Watch Exposes Details of Obama Administration Conspiracy To Jail Political Opponents

http://www.judicialwatch.org/

The scandal about the Lerner emails and court obstruction is just for starters.  This week, JW made headlines with new documents we forced out of the Department of Justice and IRS. 

Well, I guess the South may grow with all the people getting scared. We here, in the South all have guns and more. I can't wait for Obama and his libtards friends to try to take over the South. This time we have guns, and ammo, and food. We also have a very good manufacturing base for weapons. Last time we fought with rocks at the end. The South will NEVER die.


The documents include an extraordinary "DOJ Recap" report detailing an October 2010 meeting between Lois Lerner, Justice Department prosecutors and the FBI to plan for the possible criminal prosecution of targeted nonprofit organizations for alleged illegal political activity.  Incredibly, the Obama IRS gave the FBI 21 computer disks, containing 1.25 million pages of confidential IRS returns from 113,000 nonprofit social 501(c)(4) welfare groups  - or nearly every 501(c)(4) in the United States - as part of its prosecution effort.

http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2014-06-09-DEI-Jordan-to-Koskinen-IRS-DOJ-Disks-tax-exempt-applications.pdf?

https://www.independentsector.org/scope_of_the_sector?





We pried this material loose under court orders in two Judicial Watch Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits: Judicial Watch v. Internal Revenue Service and Judicial Watch v. Department of Justice.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/jw-v-irs-1239-court-order/?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/complaint-file-stamped-case-1-14-cv-01956/?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/jw-v-doj-01239-public-integrity-irs/?





The October 11, 2010 "DOJ Recap" memo sent by IRS Exempt Organizations Tax Law Specialist Siri Buller to Lerner and other top IRS officials explaining an October 8 meeting with representatives from the Department of Justice Criminal Division's Public Integrity Section and "one representative from the FBI" to discuss the possible criminal prosecution of nonprofit organizations for alleged political activity:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/irs-consultation-14-cv-1956-32/?





On October 8, 2010, Lois Lerner, Joe Urban [IRS Technical Advisor, TEGE], Judy Kindell [top aide to Lerner], Justin Lowe [Technical Advisor to the Commissioner of Tax-Exempt and Government Entities], and Siri Buller met with the section chief and other attorneys from the Department of Justice Criminal Division's Public Integrity Section, and one representative from the FBI, to discuss recent attention to the political activity of exempt organizations.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joseph-urban/31/42a/758?

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/353729/targeting-top-irs-eliana-johnson?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/irs-consultation-14-cv-1956-70/?





The section's attorneys expressed concern that certain section 501(c) organizations are actually political committees "posing" as if they are not subject to FEC law, and therefore may be subject to criminal liability.

The attorneys mentioned several possible theories to bring criminal charges under FEC law.


In response, Lois and Judy eloquently explained the following points:


·         Under section 7805(b), we may only revoke or modify an organization's exemption retroactively if it omitted or misstated a material fact or operated in a manner materially different from that originally represented.

·         If we do not have these misrepresentations, the organization may rely on our determination it is exempt. However, the likelihood of revocation is diminished by the fact that section 501(c)(4)-(c)(6) organizations are not required to apply for recognition of exemption.

·         We discussed the hypothetical situation of a section 501(c)(4) organization 
that declares itself exempt as a social welfare organization, but at the end of the taxable year has in fact functioned as a political organization.

Judy explained that such an organization, in order to be in compliance, would simply file Form 1120-POL and paying tax at the highest corporate rate.




Lois stated that although we do not believe that organizations which are subject to a civil audit subsequently receive any type of immunity from a criminal investigation, she will refer them to individuals from CI who can better answer that question.

She explained that we are legally required to separate the civil and criminal aspects of any examination and that while we do not have EO law experts in CI, our FIU agents are experienced in coordinating with CI.


The attorneys asked whether a change in the law is necessary, and whether a three-way partnership among DOJ, the FEC, and the IRS is possible to prevent prohibited activity by these organizations. Lois listed a number of obstacles to the attorneys' theories:




[REDACTED]


She pointed to Revenue Ruling 2004-6, which was drafted in light of the e******neering communication rules before they were litigated.

Just prior this meeting, the IRS began the process of providing the FBI confidential taxpayer information on nonprofit groups. 

This resulted in a massive breach.  An IRS document confirms the IRS supplied the FBI with 21 disks containing 1.25 million pages of taxpayer records:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/irs-consultation-14-cv-1956-70/? 


FROM: Hamilton David K
SENT: Tuesday, October 5, 2010  2:49 PM
TO: Whittaker Sherry [Director, GE Program Management], Blackwell Robert M
SUBJECT: RE: Question


There are 113,000 C4 returns from January 1, 2007 to now. Assuming they want all pages including redacted ones, that's 1.25 million pages ... If we get started on it right away, before the 10th when the monthly extracts start, we can probably get it done in a week or so....




The Justice Department documents also include a July 16, 2013, email from an undisclosed Justice official to a lawyer for IRS employees asking that the Obama administration get information from congressional witnesses before Congress does:


One last issue. If any of your clients have documents they are providing to Congress that you can (or would like to) provide to us before their testimony, we would be pleased to receive them. We are 6103 authorized and I can connect you with TIGTA to confirm; we would like the unredacted documents.

Why would the Justice Department need to get the documents first ? 


Certainly not to help Congress or inform the American people. 

All this shows that the Obama IRS was one of several federal law enforcement agencies misused by President Obama's administration. 

The Justice Department and the FBI were used as law enforcement is often used in dictatorships - to try to silence and jail opposition to the dictator. 


Americans would never have known anything about this abuse but for Judicial Watch. 

On April 16, 2014, Judicial Watch forced the IRS to release documents revealing for the first time that Lerner communicated with the DOJ in May 2013 about whether it was possible to launch criminal prosecutions against targeted tax-exempt entities. The documents were obtained due to court order in an October 2013 Judicial Watch FOIA lawsuit filed against the IRS.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/jw-obtains-irs-documents-showing-lerner-contact-doj-potential-prosecution-tax-exempt-groups/?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/judicial-watch-v-irs-lawsuit/?




Those documents contained an email exchange between Lerner and Nikole C. Flax, then-chief of staff to then-Acting IRS Commissioner Steven T. Miller discussing plans to work with the DOJ to prosecute nonprofit groups that "lied" (Lerner's quotation marks) about political activities. The exchange included a May 8, 2013, email by Lerner:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/jw1559-00105/? 




I got a call today from Richard Pilger Director E******ns Crimes Branch at DOJ ... He wanted to know who at IRS the DOJ folk s [sic] could talk to about Sen.

Whitehouse idea at the hearing that DOJ could piece together false statement cases about applicants who "lied" on their 1024s -saying they weren't planning on doing political activity, and then turning around and making large visible political expenditures.

DOJ is feeling like it needs to respond, but want to talk to the right folks at IRS to see whether there are impediments from our side and what, if any damage this might do to IRS programs. I told him that sounded like we might need several folks from IRS...



The House Oversight Committee followed up on these Judicial Watch disclosures with hearings and interviews of Pilger and his boss, Justice Department Public Integrity Chief Jack Smith.

Besides confirming the Justice Department's 2013 communications with Lerner, Pilger admitted to the committee that Justice officials met with Lerner in October 2010. 

http://oversight.house.gov/release/testimony-2010-justice-department-sought-lois-lerners-help-prosecute-tax-exempt-groups-engaging-politics/?



We then uncovered new details about these meetings in December 2014 showing that it was the Obama Justice Department that initiated outreach to the IRS about prosecuting tax-exempt entities.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-lawsuit-forces-release-doj-emails-showing-irss-lois-lerner-met-doj-officials-just-2010-e******ns/?




Now, these new documents show that the Obama IRS scandal is also an Obama Justice Department and FBI scandal.  The FBI and Justice Department worked with Lois Lerner and the IRS to concoct reasons to put President Obama's opponents in jail before his ree******n. And this abuse resulted in the FBI's illegally obtaining confidential taxpayer information. 


Again, also following Judicial Watch's lead, the House also found out about the IRS t***smittal of the confidential taxpayer information to the FBI.  Because of this public disclosure, the FBI was forced to return the 1.25 million pages to the IRS. 


Why?  Because it was likely a crime to have received them. 

http://newstracking.judicialwatch.org/l/a/74i/p5/xp5r/55r/kt4r/click.emaildirect
http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2014/06/fbi_returned_database_on_tax-e.html?


Simply put, the FBI or a Justice Department prosecutor can't ask for and receive IRS records on thousands of Americans just because the government might want prosecute one taxpayer or one tax exempt organization.  The rules and the law are quite specific, as the IRS explains here. 

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p4639.pdf?




The Privacy Act, another law that makes it a crime to misuse certain government files, may also apply.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2012-title5/pdf/USCODE-2012-title5-partI-chap5-subchapII-sec552a.pdf?




The New York Post rightly suggests the need for a special prosecutor:

http://nypost.com/2015/07/07/the-irs-scandal-just-got-even-worse/?




The IRS scandal surfaced years ago - and for all the administration talk of a full investigation, this huge news is only surfacing now, and only thanks to Judicial Watch.


The news of FBI and Justice involvement in the IRS scandal makes the need for some special prosecutor to probe this mess even more obvious.
 
After all, as Judicial Watch's Fitton asks: "How can the Justice Department and the FBI investigate the very scandal in which they are implicated?"
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Jul 12, 2015 17:38:08   #
Doc110 wrote:
7/10/15 Judicial Watch Exposes Details of Obama Administration Conspiracy To Jail Political Opponents

http://www.judicialwatch.org/

The scandal about the Lerner emails and court obstruction is just for starters.  This week, JW made headlines with new documents we forced out of the Department of Justice and IRS. 

Well, I guess the South may grow with all the people getting scared. We here, in the South all have guns and more. I can't wait for Obama and his libtards friends to try to take over the South. This time we have guns, and ammo, and food. We also have a very good manufacturing base for weapons. Last time we fought with rocks at the end. The South will NEVER die.


The documents include an extraordinary "DOJ Recap" report detailing an October 2010 meeting between Lois Lerner, Justice Department prosecutors and the FBI to plan for the possible criminal prosecution of targeted nonprofit organizations for alleged illegal political activity.  Incredibly, the Obama IRS gave the FBI 21 computer disks, containing 1.25 million pages of confidential IRS returns from 113,000 nonprofit social 501(c)(4) welfare groups  - or nearly every 501(c)(4) in the United States - as part of its prosecution effort.

http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2014-06-09-DEI-Jordan-to-Koskinen-IRS-DOJ-Disks-tax-exempt-applications.pdf?

https://www.independentsector.org/scope_of_the_sector?





We pried this material loose under court orders in two Judicial Watch Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits: Judicial Watch v. Internal Revenue Service and Judicial Watch v. Department of Justice.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/jw-v-irs-1239-court-order/?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/complaint-file-stamped-case-1-14-cv-01956/?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/jw-v-doj-01239-public-integrity-irs/?





The October 11, 2010 "DOJ Recap" memo sent by IRS Exempt Organizations Tax Law Specialist Siri Buller to Lerner and other top IRS officials explaining an October 8 meeting with representatives from the Department of Justice Criminal Division's Public Integrity Section and "one representative from the FBI" to discuss the possible criminal prosecution of nonprofit organizations for alleged political activity:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/irs-consultation-14-cv-1956-32/?





On October 8, 2010, Lois Lerner, Joe Urban [IRS Technical Advisor, TEGE], Judy Kindell [top aide to Lerner], Justin Lowe [Technical Advisor to the Commissioner of Tax-Exempt and Government Entities], and Siri Buller met with the section chief and other attorneys from the Department of Justice Criminal Division's Public Integrity Section, and one representative from the FBI, to discuss recent attention to the political activity of exempt organizations.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joseph-urban/31/42a/758?

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/353729/targeting-top-irs-eliana-johnson?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/irs-consultation-14-cv-1956-70/?





The section's attorneys expressed concern that certain section 501(c) organizations are actually political committees "posing" as if they are not subject to FEC law, and therefore may be subject to criminal liability.

The attorneys mentioned several possible theories to bring criminal charges under FEC law.


In response, Lois and Judy eloquently explained the following points:


·         Under section 7805(b), we may only revoke or modify an organization's exemption retroactively if it omitted or misstated a material fact or operated in a manner materially different from that originally represented.

·         If we do not have these misrepresentations, the organization may rely on our determination it is exempt. However, the likelihood of revocation is diminished by the fact that section 501(c)(4)-(c)(6) organizations are not required to apply for recognition of exemption.

·         We discussed the hypothetical situation of a section 501(c)(4) organization 
that declares itself exempt as a social welfare organization, but at the end of the taxable year has in fact functioned as a political organization.

Judy explained that such an organization, in order to be in compliance, would simply file Form 1120-POL and paying tax at the highest corporate rate.




Lois stated that although we do not believe that organizations which are subject to a civil audit subsequently receive any type of immunity from a criminal investigation, she will refer them to individuals from CI who can better answer that question.

She explained that we are legally required to separate the civil and criminal aspects of any examination and that while we do not have EO law experts in CI, our FIU agents are experienced in coordinating with CI.


The attorneys asked whether a change in the law is necessary, and whether a three-way partnership among DOJ, the FEC, and the IRS is possible to prevent prohibited activity by these organizations. Lois listed a number of obstacles to the attorneys' theories:




[REDACTED]


She pointed to Revenue Ruling 2004-6, which was drafted in light of the e******neering communication rules before they were litigated.

Just prior this meeting, the IRS began the process of providing the FBI confidential taxpayer information on nonprofit groups. 

This resulted in a massive breach.  An IRS document confirms the IRS supplied the FBI with 21 disks containing 1.25 million pages of taxpayer records:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/irs-consultation-14-cv-1956-70/? 


FROM: Hamilton David K
SENT: Tuesday, October 5, 2010  2:49 PM
TO: Whittaker Sherry [Director, GE Program Management], Blackwell Robert M
SUBJECT: RE: Question


There are 113,000 C4 returns from January 1, 2007 to now. Assuming they want all pages including redacted ones, that's 1.25 million pages ... If we get started on it right away, before the 10th when the monthly extracts start, we can probably get it done in a week or so....




The Justice Department documents also include a July 16, 2013, email from an undisclosed Justice official to a lawyer for IRS employees asking that the Obama administration get information from congressional witnesses before Congress does:


One last issue. If any of your clients have documents they are providing to Congress that you can (or would like to) provide to us before their testimony, we would be pleased to receive them. We are 6103 authorized and I can connect you with TIGTA to confirm; we would like the unredacted documents.

Why would the Justice Department need to get the documents first ? 


Certainly not to help Congress or inform the American people. 

All this shows that the Obama IRS was one of several federal law enforcement agencies misused by President Obama's administration. 

The Justice Department and the FBI were used as law enforcement is often used in dictatorships - to try to silence and jail opposition to the dictator. 


Americans would never have known anything about this abuse but for Judicial Watch. 

On April 16, 2014, Judicial Watch forced the IRS to release documents revealing for the first time that Lerner communicated with the DOJ in May 2013 about whether it was possible to launch criminal prosecutions against targeted tax-exempt entities. The documents were obtained due to court order in an October 2013 Judicial Watch FOIA lawsuit filed against the IRS.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/jw-obtains-irs-documents-showing-lerner-contact-doj-potential-prosecution-tax-exempt-groups/?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/judicial-watch-v-irs-lawsuit/?




Those documents contained an email exchange between Lerner and Nikole C. Flax, then-chief of staff to then-Acting IRS Commissioner Steven T. Miller discussing plans to work with the DOJ to prosecute nonprofit groups that "lied" (Lerner's quotation marks) about political activities. The exchange included a May 8, 2013, email by Lerner:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/jw1559-00105/? 




I got a call today from Richard Pilger Director E******ns Crimes Branch at DOJ ... He wanted to know who at IRS the DOJ folk s [sic] could talk to about Sen.

Whitehouse idea at the hearing that DOJ could piece together false statement cases about applicants who "lied" on their 1024s -saying they weren't planning on doing political activity, and then turning around and making large visible political expenditures.

DOJ is feeling like it needs to respond, but want to talk to the right folks at IRS to see whether there are impediments from our side and what, if any damage this might do to IRS programs. I told him that sounded like we might need several folks from IRS...



The House Oversight Committee followed up on these Judicial Watch disclosures with hearings and interviews of Pilger and his boss, Justice Department Public Integrity Chief Jack Smith.

Besides confirming the Justice Department's 2013 communications with Lerner, Pilger admitted to the committee that Justice officials met with Lerner in October 2010. 

http://oversight.house.gov/release/testimony-2010-justice-department-sought-lois-lerners-help-prosecute-tax-exempt-groups-engaging-politics/?



We then uncovered new details about these meetings in December 2014 showing that it was the Obama Justice Department that initiated outreach to the IRS about prosecuting tax-exempt entities.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-lawsuit-forces-release-doj-emails-showing-irss-lois-lerner-met-doj-officials-just-2010-e******ns/?




Now, these new documents show that the Obama IRS scandal is also an Obama Justice Department and FBI scandal.  The FBI and Justice Department worked with Lois Lerner and the IRS to concoct reasons to put President Obama's opponents in jail before his ree******n. And this abuse resulted in the FBI's illegally obtaining confidential taxpayer information. 


Again, also following Judicial Watch's lead, the House also found out about the IRS t***smittal of the confidential taxpayer information to the FBI.  Because of this public disclosure, the FBI was forced to return the 1.25 million pages to the IRS. 


Why?  Because it was likely a crime to have received them. 

http://newstracking.judicialwatch.org/l/a/74i/p5/xp5r/55r/kt4r/click.emaildirect
http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2014/06/fbi_returned_database_on_tax-e.html?


Simply put, the FBI or a Justice Department prosecutor can't ask for and receive IRS records on thousands of Americans just because the government might want prosecute one taxpayer or one tax exempt organization.  The rules and the law are quite specific, as the IRS explains here. 

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p4639.pdf?




The Privacy Act, another law that makes it a crime to misuse certain government files, may also apply.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2012-title5/pdf/USCODE-2012-title5-partI-chap5-subchapII-sec552a.pdf?




The New York Post rightly suggests the need for a special prosecutor:

http://nypost.com/2015/07/07/the-irs-scandal-just-got-even-worse/?




The IRS scandal surfaced years ago - and for all the administration talk of a full investigation, this huge news is only surfacing now, and only thanks to Judicial Watch.


The news of FBI and Justice involvement in the IRS scandal makes the need for some special prosecutor to probe this mess even more obvious.
 
After all, as Judicial Watch's Fitton asks: "How can the Justice Department and the FBI investigate the very scandal in which they are implicated?"
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Jul 5, 2015 12:54:35   #
I cannot believe that you said he can't win. He damn well can win if you and everybody else who loves this country gets off their ass and v**e for him. This is the first time I have ever heard a candidate that has a lot to lose, tell the fuckin t***h to the v**ers. The rest of them will fuss and cater some, but will never tell you what Trump did. His qualifications exceed Obama and all the other candidates running. He will do what he said. We damn sure need him to restore America back to what we were. Leave it to a Democrat to fuck up America. ENTITLEMENTS is the way you spell Democrat in reality. Please wake up, and v**e for a real President this time.
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May 2, 2015 15:20:44   #
She Wolf wrote:
I agree. Allowing these law enforcement agencies to police themselves is allowing the fox to guard the hen house. About time some of these psychos were given their day in court. As citizens are we not told time and time again: "if you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear from the court?" Perhaps, this will drive home the idea that your uniform does not place you above the law.

What I don't understand is why the good officers can not understand by protecting these murders, you are making your job more dangerous. When the majority of people fear the police more than they fear the criminal, what do they think the out come will be?
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Well, looks like I can make some money on the officers being convicted of murder. I will take all bets that there is no murder conviction. There may be a misdemeanor conviction of maybe one officer. Make the odds right and I will bet about any charge
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Apr 21, 2015 18:41:42   #
Kevyn wrote:
Wallmart is very much against its workers organizing, and an effective black Friday walkout likely scared the hell out of them and with only five stores effected it is likely a move to frighten other employees around the country from exercising their right to organize. Hopefuly someone in Wallmart management is honest and courageous enough to turn internal documents spelling out the real reason for the closings over to the NLRB so an ULP complaint can be filed and Wallmart held accountable in court and made an example of. It would be great if all of the workers effected were given collective bargaining rights, back pay for all of the time they were off and Wallmart had to pay a giant fine. Wallmart is a very small step up from a narcotics cartel when it comes to ethics in business and it is long past time they were brought into line with decent American buisness.
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Well, let me get this straight. You want the Union's too take over for all the employee's of Walmart, so then the Union's get all the dues for the poor people working, so they can support all The Libtards. I say, fuck the Union's. No one should have to pay a Union to be allowed to work. Untill the Union's got so greedy, at one time they did some good. Back in the 30's. Coal miners got some good from the Union's. But now, all the Union monies go to who? The libtards.
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Mar 20, 2015 18:06:00   #
Ronald Hatt wrote:
I admire your grasp of the English Language, & applaud your choice of words. At this point, you, have been generous to a fault, describing these Sociopathic, Narcissists, that are obviously, "{ A-MORAL }".........& TOTALLY WITHOUT POLITICAL OR SOCIAL SCRUPLES!

Slick perverted Willie, & his "wifey", "K**lery", cannot be trusted for "anything honorable, & should never be allowed to hold public office........EVER AGAIN!.......................... :twisted: :shock:
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Thanks, for your comment. I admire, also your mindset of the Clinton's. I will in the future, advise of the murderous trail left in the wake of the Clinton's. Their isn't enough verbiage in my vocabulary to really describe them: but wait there may be on reflecting.
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Mar 20, 2015 17:47:49   #
Bhmason wrote:
This is a direct result of Little Barry's incoherent foreign policy starting with declaring a red line then saying he didn't. Little Barry is being seen by Putin as Little Barry Chamberlain.

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Look, Putin is not that fuckin stupid. If he cannot survive along with his country with total nuclear war, then this is a cruel JOKE. Something this important, would be online news 24 hrs a day. This is straight B/S
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