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Apr 29, 2024 20:52:36   #
DASHY wrote:
Exactly what did President Biden do to cause inflation? Is there any particular Republican proposal to fix Social Security that you think is better than the proposal submitted by the Biden administration? Talking about digging your head in the sand is not much of an attack and not specific enough to discuss.


How did Biden cause inflation ? Geez ole willockers. I have only posted that information on OPP about a gozzzzzillion times. Well dozens anyway. I have gone into excruciating detail and been completely ignored by YOU and every other Biden apologist on OPP.

The same thing on Social Security. " not specific enough " That is laughable. Perhaps not on this thread, but on many other threads I have laid out painful specifics. None of you good folks on the Left has bothered to refute what I have posted.

I don't mind you disagreeing with me, but either ignoring me or giving a mindless universal condemnation of what I said, without refuting the specifics is a waste of my time. But like Charlie Brown who always has Lucy pull away the football when he tries to kick it, I think that maybe this time, you won't pull the football away. You will actually respond to what I post, in detail.

The most obvious and easily explainable is the American Rescue Plan. In March 2021 Democrats passed this stimulus legislation. There was already too much liquidity in the American economy left over from the Trump Administration. Biden should have been sucking money out of the economy. Instead he decided to pour gasoline on the inflation fire.

Part of this stimulus was increased unemployment which created incentives for workers to stay home, instead of going to work and producing goods and services. Very very inflationary.

I normally go into far more detail, but I do not want to overwhelm you. But lets us speak about what Joe did with oil and gas. He all but declared war on American hydrocarbons. No, he did declare war on American energy. Raising the price of gasoline and diesel was inflationary because most goods in America are moved by petroleum powered vehicles.

So will you refute my details, or will you pull the football ? The ball is in your half of the field.
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Apr 29, 2024 19:16:57   #
PeterS wrote:
Note which f**g they really love...


Case against Trump or Trump stealing the 2016 e******n vs Bill Clinton stealing the 1992 e******n. Too bad Republicans did not have an Alvin Bragg to wage Lawfare against Bill. Not that I am changing the subject or calling you out on your hypocrisy. No I would never do that.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/04/remember-when-bill-clinton-stole-the-1992-e******n/?bypass_key=WEJBZnV6bDNMTzB5RjA1dXluR3Zidz09OjpXR1JsUWk5RVRFZ3lVR2hOWXpka2VreFhMMjlDUVQwOQ%3D%3D

" The Manhattan DA has a meaningless business-records misdemeanor wrapped within a theory about an alleged Trump conspiracy to defraud the v**ers by denying them disparaging information before the e******n and obscuring, after the fact, the payments that were used to do so.

" Bragg is accusing Trump, in effect, of stealing the e******n. "

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" If this is the standard by which we judge e******ns, we need to go back and conclude that Bill Clinton wasn’t elected legitimately in 1992, either. The Arkansas governor’s political operation was, in part, an elaborate conspiracy to keep women who alleged to have had affairs with Clinton quiet. Hillary Clinton was an active participant in the schemes. And so, by Bragg’s logic, this Democratic power couple — dominant in the party for a decade or more and still honored today — comprises e******n thieves. "
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Apr 29, 2024 10:19:48   #
DASHY wrote:
Republicans’ budget proposal for fixing Social Security calls for “modest adjustments” to the retirement age to reflect longer life expectancies, though it did not specify how high the age could go up. The plan also calls for reducing full retirement age benefits for high-income earners, while also limiting and phasing out “auxiliary benefits” for those beneficiaries’ spouses and dependents. The budget did not specify the income thresholds to which those changes would apply..

I agree with "modest adjustments" to the retirement age depending on the specifics. Low-income earners should not be harmed by the adjustments. Reducing benefits for high-income earners is a good idea.

I have no interest in arguing about the causes and effects of inflation on world economies. I will leave that topic to the experts who have actually studied the subject. Here is one expert opinion. "An increase in government spending is one of the factors that economists say can drive inflation. Other factors include interest rates, monetary policy, supply chain disruptions and fluctuations in demand for goods and services. Inflation can be an important consideration for investing, saving and borrowing."

During the Biden Administration, stock market investors experienced some solid wealth building. I am one of them.
Republicans’ budget proposal for fixing Social Sec... (show quote)


" I have no interest in arguing about the causes and effects of inflation on world economies. "

Neither do I, except that you and your cohorts keep using that as a theme to distract from what I do want to talk about, which is Biden caused inflation.

Biden caused inflation is a valid target of discussion. You defend Biden and I am attacking him, as that is what this debate is about. You are are a lost cause on Social Security. You will never dig your head out of the sand. Even when my predictions come true, you will not remember this talk.

Have a pleasant afternoon.
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Apr 29, 2024 10:12:18   #
Proud American Patriot wrote:
It is British humor so I guess it isn't for everyone but I like them too. Also Benny Hill isn't bad.


There were a couple of other lesser known British shows on late night TV in the mid 1970s. I can't remember their names. I worked swing shifts back then, and would watch. I got hooked on them. Sometimes the Monty Python players teamed up with other folks and did stuff. Did you ever see the Yorkshire Men sketch ? Marty Feldman from Young Frankenstein was in this one.


https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=yorkshiremen+sketch&mid=171D5EFB2C61E68A6EC8171D5EFB2C61E68A6EC8&FORM=VIRE
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Apr 28, 2024 21:59:43   #
Proud American Patriot wrote:
This is excellent. Thanks for the laugh. Very pertinent to arguments here, lol. Always remember when Monte Python came out with the Holy Grail. Funny stuff.


I am the only person I personally know who likes Monty Python.
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Apr 28, 2024 19:52:10   #
straightUp wrote:
A recent NBC News Poll lists the top two concerns for Biden supporters and the top two concerns for Trump supporters. The poll indicates that among strong Biden supporters, the top two issues are... A******n and Uniting the Country.

Regardless of how you feel about a******n, the fact remains that this is a big concern for many. The second thing to note is that there is a very clear and feasible path for overriding the Supreme Court by passing a law through Congress that guarantees a woman's right to choose. Efforts are already underway to make this happen and Biden has resolved to support the effort.

Again... not arguing whether it's right or wrong, just pointing out that this change is within political reach. The plan already underway *IS* feasible, which is giving the Biden supporters a good reason to v**e for him.

The second one, uniting the country, is something I would say is NOT within political reach. This may be a top concern for Biden supporters but whether or not Biden can actually do something about it, is in my opinion, doubtful. The divide is cultural and runs too deep. It may have metastasized into politics under Trump but he certainly didn't create it... Trump was leveraging the divide that was already there, which is something we've never seen a president do before. Trump was the first president to openly favor one half of the American people over the other half and I think avoiding another one-sided presidency is what drives this concern.

Moving over to the other side, the poll indicates that among Trump supporters, the top two issues are... Inflation and Competency.

Personally, I agree with the Trump supporters that inflation is the most pressing issue for most of us, but much like the cultural divide, I think inflation is something that no president can do much about. There are of course lot's of politically motivated theories and baseless accusations that push the narrative that Biden caused inflation, but an honest assessment of our post-p******c economy, the free market and the banking system will tell us that inflation is being driven by forces that are almost entirely outside p**********l control.

Finally, there is competency... a top concern for the first time ever. Perhaps this is because our choice in 2024 is between the two oldest p**********l candidates in our history. But it's only a top concern for Trump supporters. Well, Biden *is* four years older, but for his supporters it's not a top concern. For them, Biden seems to have proven himself over the last three years to be fully competent with his decisions, despite his age, his geriatric walk and his stammering at the podium. Some of his supporters also know that he has assembled the youngest administration in history and that he actually listens to them.

On the Trump side, where the concern is elevated to the top notches, it's hard not to see it as a vindictive stab for the constant questioning of Trump's competency during his term. But there is also the fact that right-wing media obscures the very things that assures Biden supporters of their candidates competency, while honing in on his stammering and anything else that emphasizes his age.

I also want to point out that political moves rarely satisfy everyone. Any move a president makes will be strongly opposed by some and regardless of how competent the move might actually be, it's become normal for those in opposition to call it an incompetent move.

So what these four concerns tell us is that Biden supporters are more tuned into reality, with the only concern out of the four that can actually be affected by their supported candidate and the other concern being the only one out of the four that can be avoided by NOT v****g for opposing candidate. The Trump supporters seem to be entirely driven by their dislike toward the opponent with one concern that neither of the candidates can fix (so why would it even be an e******n issue?) and one concern about the opposing candidates (competency) that strongly suggests the concern *should* be about the supporters themselves.
A recent NBC News Poll lists the top two concerns ... (show quote)


" I think inflation is something that no president can do much about. "

That's what Jimmy Carter supporters thought back in 1980. Ronald Reagan supporters knew better.
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Apr 28, 2024 19:46:26   #
Proud American Patriot wrote:
Yes, they are defective. At least you.may be able to hwlp


I come here for a good argument and most of the time I do not feel I am getting my money's worth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvcnx6-0GhA
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Apr 28, 2024 19:31:30   #
archie bunker wrote:
They, their, they're.
He also doesn't get that one.
Aw crap! I should have said understand instead of "get".
Dammit! I'm gonna get my tallywhacker spanked again!!
On a lighter note, and a little off subject, you ought to see the new $1200 set of tires on Mrs. Bunker's car. There bootiful.


I remember getting tires for a lot less than that before Jo-flation hit. That reminds me of last year, but this year I finally got my tax refund, after I whined about Biden's IRS holding it up on technicalities. However, to get back to last year and old wives tales, or at least old wives. Last year my wife wondered why I did not share the tax refund with her. She surmised that half should have been hers. On the surface that sounded reasonable. She and her cousin typically fly to either Florida or California each year to see relations and the money would be useful.

" So, my dear you want to know what happened to your half of the tax refund ", I exclaimed. I like that word exclaimed. " Do you remember that your car, which is 10 times as nice as the scrap I have driven for 38 years ? Your car needed 4 tires. Then there were property taxes, our vacation at the beach, bailing out one of the kids, etc. etc. etc. "

I said this year, " I will be happy to pony up the refund this year, if you will cover the various capital expenditures that come up during the year. " I don't think she will take that deal.

Whew, good thing they have the edit and update. At first I said old wives tails instead of old wives tales.
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Apr 28, 2024 18:54:13   #
DASHY wrote:
When you use the phrase "too little too late" or say that "a storm is coming" I know it is the MAGA way of admitting defeat. You have no clue about what to do. Honest, informed, educated Democrats are problem solvers.
If your MAGA understanding of complex issues comes from spending a lot of time as a kid at the beach maybe you should have spent more time in the classroom.

FYI. Your sand castle analogies fail to explain anything related to the issues we talk about. The reason interest rates were so high in the 1980s was due to high inflation. Investers like us benefited from inflation.
When you use the phrase "too little too late&... (show quote)


I must admit finding your arguments immensely amusing. You seem to have some small talent in debate tricks, in turning and twisting my statements into a pretzel. However, I continue to be thoroughly unimpressed with your knowledge of the actual subject matter. The too little too late, the storm is coming, and the MAGA way of admitting defeat remarks are quite funny.

As far as admitting defeat, you are right. I've been admitting defeat every single time Democrats succeeded in convincing stupid old people and now stupid not so old people that Republicans Social Security reforms would screw them over, and the Democrats could make saving Social Security painless by just taxing some rich guy a tad more.

My brilliant arguments to the contrary have not convinced you so far, and I can always think up many more, but you would continue to reject them. So I think I will swing this conversation back to your inflation comment.

You seem to be defending, not the idea that inflation could not be helped under Carter and Biden. That argument, whilst not ideal, is at least plausible. I made a similar argument that the economic shutdowns and turmoil of Trump's last year in office were the result of C***d, and likely no other President could have done better, considering the limited knowledge and experience of the v***s and it's consequences at the time.

I know you would disagree, but neither of us can prove the other wrong. To get back to inflation, you seem to be making the argument that high inflation under Carter and Biden was good because you and I did well with the high interest rates.

I dispute that viewpoint. Yes getting 19 % on money market funds was kinda cool, but that was a false return. With inflation running so high, real return on capital wasn't as good as it sounds. We were getting back inflated dollars.

I say that once Reagan and Paul Volcker broke the back of the inflation cycle in the early 1980s, returns in the stock markets, until Biden's inflation, were more wealth producing because inflation was no longer eroding the purchasing power of the dollars gains earned. Yes there was some inflation and yes there were some scary economic busts like 2008, but the low inflation from 1982 until 2022 was 40 years of solid wealth building.
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Apr 28, 2024 18:11:29   #
NotMAGA wrote:
Nor do I. Nothing is going to shift you away from v****g for DJ. But it was nice to see a few people start using better spelling and grammar here - for a day or two anyway.


Have you ever noticed the grammar of Airforceone ? For five plus years I have tried and failed to teach him the difference between your and you're. Since he is one of your guys, I thought you might have better success than I have. I mean you are a professional and the rest of us are just pretenders.
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Apr 28, 2024 18:05:18   #
Proud American Patriot wrote:
I gave up on them too. There is never a cogent answer. Never real facts. Used to cite sources, put the proof work in and their response, it was Trump. Why waste any of your life trying to prove an i***t wrong. Sometimes it is fun. But you are right, they love to bully but when given back they have no clue how to deal.


None of us here will ever likely convince anyone on the other side of anything. For me this place is simply an opportunity for me to try out my arguments and theories against people who think the opposite of me. I find that especially useful because my daughters and nieces and nephews are all L*****ts, but not all of them are hopeless cases like the Liberals in this place.

The L*****ts on OPP show me whether I have any obvious weak points in my facts and logic. Unfortunately the quality here is not as good as on the sites that were active 15-20 years ago. The Bush/Iraq War years when I was on a dial up modem were more fun. Those L*****ts were much crazier, but at least they knew what they were talking about, and they didn't cut and run like the present woosie crowd does.
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Apr 28, 2024 17:50:48   #
Proud American Patriot wrote:
Lol


I've been whining for weeks about my topics not coming up on the list. Suddenly this one did. If I ever figure out what I did right, , , , well..........
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Apr 28, 2024 17:47:50   #
Hydro wrote:
One day they will answer for their choices-


Very likely.
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Apr 27, 2024 21:43:36   #
What the h**l. My topic is visible. It's like my kid graduated from reform school. I am so proud.
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Apr 27, 2024 21:39:07   #
Hydro wrote:
You will have the pleasure of the majority accompanying your uncontrolled laughter - I believe many Democrates will secretly v**e for Trump as they live with the same financial pain we do - groceries, gas, I******s taking their jobs for less money - etc. Democrates May dislike Trump but like his policies


I hope you are right, but the a******n issue is in the Democratic Party' political advantage. I have many uber liberal friends. I know their thinking. Whilst they may get over their hatred of Trump, they want the right to k**l that baby. They don't see the little bugger in Mom's belly as anything except an inconvenience until it bursts out of Mom's body. It isn't alive until the doctor smacks it's butt to make it a human.
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