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Apr 27, 2024 09:05:21   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
A recent NBC News Poll lists the top two concerns for Biden supporters and the top two concerns for Trump supporters. The poll indicates that among strong Biden supporters, the top two issues are... A******n and Uniting the Country.

Regardless of how you feel about a******n, the fact remains that this is a big concern for many. The second thing to note is that there is a very clear and feasible path for overriding the Supreme Court by passing a law through Congress that guarantees a woman's right to choose. Efforts are already underway to make this happen and Biden has resolved to support the effort.

Again... not arguing whether it's right or wrong, just pointing out that this change is within political reach. The plan already underway *IS* feasible, which is giving the Biden supporters a good reason to v**e for him.

The second one, uniting the country, is something I would say is NOT within political reach. This may be a top concern for Biden supporters but whether or not Biden can actually do something about it, is in my opinion, doubtful. The divide is cultural and runs too deep. It may have metastasized into politics under Trump but he certainly didn't create it... Trump was leveraging the divide that was already there, which is something we've never seen a president do before. Trump was the first president to openly favor one half of the American people over the other half and I think avoiding another one-sided presidency is what drives this concern.

Moving over to the other side, the poll indicates that among Trump supporters, the top two issues are... Inflation and Competency.

Personally, I agree with the Trump supporters that inflation is the most pressing issue for most of us, but much like the cultural divide, I think inflation is something that no president can do much about. There are of course lot's of politically motivated theories and baseless accusations that push the narrative that Biden caused inflation, but an honest assessment of our post-p******c economy, the free market and the banking system will tell us that inflation is being driven by forces that are almost entirely outside p**********l control.

Finally, there is competency... a top concern for the first time ever. Perhaps this is because our choice in 2024 is between the two oldest p**********l candidates in our history. But it's only a top concern for Trump supporters. Well, Biden *is* four years older, but for his supporters it's not a top concern. For them, Biden seems to have proven himself over the last three years to be fully competent with his decisions, despite his age, his geriatric walk and his stammering at the podium. Some of his supporters also know that he has assembled the youngest administration in history and that he actually listens to them.

On the Trump side, where the concern is elevated to the top notches, it's hard not to see it as a vindictive stab for the constant questioning of Trump's competency during his term. But there is also the fact that right-wing media obscures the very things that assures Biden supporters of their candidates competency, while honing in on his stammering and anything else that emphasizes his age.

I also want to point out that political moves rarely satisfy everyone. Any move a president makes will be strongly opposed by some and regardless of how competent the move might actually be, it's become normal for those in opposition to call it an incompetent move.

So what these four concerns tell us is that Biden supporters are more tuned into reality, with the only concern out of the four that can actually be affected by their supported candidate and the other concern being the only one out of the four that can be avoided by NOT v****g for opposing candidate. The Trump supporters seem to be entirely driven by their dislike toward the opponent with one concern that neither of the candidates can fix (so why would it even be an e******n issue?) and one concern about the opposing candidates (competency) that strongly suggests the concern *should* be about the supporters themselves.

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Apr 27, 2024 09:51:41   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
straightUp wrote:
A recent NBC News Poll lists the top two concerns for Biden supporters and the top two concerns for Trump supporters. The poll indicates that among strong Biden supporters, the top two issues are... A******n and Uniting the Country.

Regardless of how you feel about a******n, the fact remains that this is a big concern for many. The second thing to note is that there is a very clear and feasible path for overriding the Supreme Court by passing a law through Congress that guarantees a woman's right to choose. Efforts are already underway to make this happen and Biden has resolved to support the effort.

Again... not arguing whether it's right or wrong, just pointing out that this change is within political reach. The plan already underway *IS* feasible, which is giving the Biden supporters a good reason to v**e for him.

The second one, uniting the country, is something I would say is NOT within political reach. This may be a top concern for Biden supporters but whether or not Biden can actually do something about it, is in my opinion, doubtful. The divide is cultural and runs too deep. It may have metastasized into politics under Trump but he certainly didn't create it... Trump was leveraging the divide that was already there, which is something we've never seen a president do before. Trump was the first president to openly favor one half of the American people over the other half and I think avoiding another one-sided presidency is what drives this concern.

Moving over to the other side, the poll indicates that among Trump supporters, the top two issues are... Inflation and Competency.

Personally, I agree with the Trump supporters that inflation is the most pressing issue for most of us, but much like the cultural divide, I think inflation is something that no president can do much about. There are of course lot's of politically motivated theories and baseless accusations that push the narrative that Biden caused inflation, but an honest assessment of our post-p******c economy, the free market and the banking system will tell us that inflation is being driven by forces that are almost entirely outside p**********l control.

Finally, there is competency... a top concern for the first time ever. Perhaps this is because our choice in 2024 is between the two oldest p**********l candidates in our history. But it's only a top concern for Trump supporters. Well, Biden *is* four years older, but for his supporters it's not a top concern. For them, Biden seems to have proven himself over the last three years to be fully competent with his decisions, despite his age, his geriatric walk and his stammering at the podium. Some of his supporters also know that he has assembled the youngest administration in history and that he actually listens to them.

On the Trump side, where the concern is elevated to the top notches, it's hard not to see it as a vindictive stab for the constant questioning of Trump's competency during his term. But there is also the fact that right-wing media obscures the very things that assures Biden supporters of their candidates competency, while honing in on his stammering and anything else that emphasizes his age.

I also want to point out that political moves rarely satisfy everyone. Any move a president makes will be strongly opposed by some and regardless of how competent the move might actually be, it's become normal for those in opposition to call it an incompetent move.

So what these four concerns tell us is that Biden supporters are more tuned into reality, with the only concern out of the four that can actually be affected by their supported candidate and the other concern being the only one out of the four that can be avoided by NOT v****g for opposing candidate. The Trump supporters seem to be entirely driven by their dislike toward the opponent with one concern that neither of the candidates can fix (so why would it even be an e******n issue?) and one concern about the opposing candidates (competency) that strongly suggests the concern *should* be about the supporters themselves.
A recent NBC News Poll lists the top two concerns ... (show quote)

<< Biden seems to have proven himself over the last three years to be fully competent with his decisions, despite his age, his geriatric walk and his stammering at the podium. >>

You have got to be one of the most willfully blind people on the planet.

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Apr 27, 2024 10:04:45   #
Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA
 
straightUp wrote:
A recent NBC News Poll lists the top two concerns for Biden supporters and the top two concerns for Trump supporters. The poll indicates that among strong Biden supporters, the top two issues are... A******n and Uniting the Country.

Regardless of how you feel about a******n, the fact remains that this is a big concern for many. The second thing to note is that there is a very clear and feasible path for overriding the Supreme Court by passing a law through Congress that guarantees a woman's right to choose. Efforts are already underway to make this happen and Biden has resolved to support the effort.

Again... not arguing whether it's right or wrong, just pointing out that this change is within political reach. The plan already underway *IS* feasible, which is giving the Biden supporters a good reason to v**e for him.

The second one, uniting the country, is something I would say is NOT within political reach. This may be a top concern for Biden supporters but whether or not Biden can actually do something about it, is in my opinion, doubtful. The divide is cultural and runs too deep. It may have metastasized into politics under Trump but he certainly didn't create it... Trump was leveraging the divide that was already there, which is something we've never seen a president do before. Trump was the first president to openly favor one half of the American people over the other half and I think avoiding another one-sided presidency is what drives this concern.

Moving over to the other side, the poll indicates that among Trump supporters, the top two issues are... Inflation and Competency.

Personally, I agree with the Trump supporters that inflation is the most pressing issue for most of us, but much like the cultural divide, I think inflation is something that no president can do much about. There are of course lot's of politically motivated theories and baseless accusations that push the narrative that Biden caused inflation, but an honest assessment of our post-p******c economy, the free market and the banking system will tell us that inflation is being driven by forces that are almost entirely outside p**********l control.

Finally, there is competency... a top concern for the first time ever. Perhaps this is because our choice in 2024 is between the two oldest p**********l candidates in our history. But it's only a top concern for Trump supporters. Well, Biden *is* four years older, but for his supporters it's not a top concern. For them, Biden seems to have proven himself over the last three years to be fully competent with his decisions, despite his age, his geriatric walk and his stammering at the podium. Some of his supporters also know that he has assembled the youngest administration in history and that he actually listens to them.

On the Trump side, where the concern is elevated to the top notches, it's hard not to see it as a vindictive stab for the constant questioning of Trump's competency during his term. But there is also the fact that right-wing media obscures the very things that assures Biden supporters of their candidates competency, while honing in on his stammering and anything else that emphasizes his age.

I also want to point out that political moves rarely satisfy everyone. Any move a president makes will be strongly opposed by some and regardless of how competent the move might actually be, it's become normal for those in opposition to call it an incompetent move.

So what these four concerns tell us is that Biden supporters are more tuned into reality, with the only concern out of the four that can actually be affected by their supported candidate and the other concern being the only one out of the four that can be avoided by NOT v****g for opposing candidate. The Trump supporters seem to be entirely driven by their dislike toward the opponent with one concern that neither of the candidates can fix (so why would it even be an e******n issue?) and one concern about the opposing candidates (competency) that strongly suggests the concern *should* be about the supporters themselves.
A recent NBC News Poll lists the top two concerns ... (show quote)


"Trump was the first president to openly favor one half of the American people over the other half and I think avoiding another one-sided presidency is what drives this concern."

does Obama's bitter clingers Hillary's insults and Biden's comments not count? Obama is the most d******e president in America's history. Saul Alinsky would be proud.

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Apr 27, 2024 10:18:28   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Jim0001 wrote:
"Trump was the first president to openly favor one half of the American people over the other half and I think avoiding another one-sided presidency is what drives this concern."

does Obama's bitter clingers Hillary's insults and Biden's comments not count? Obama is the most d******e president in America's history. Saul Alinsky would be proud.


Second most d******e.... I believe biden by far most d******e pResident EVER!!!!!

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Apr 27, 2024 10:22:36   #
Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA
 
proud republican wrote:
Second most d******e.... I believe biden by far most d******e pResident EVER!!!!!


We are still experiencing Obama's presidency. This is his third term! Joebama is just the front man.

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Apr 27, 2024 10:45:35   #
guzzimaestro
 
Jim0001 wrote:
We are still experiencing Obama's presidency. This is his third term! Joebama is just the front man.


Correct. Bidumb couldn't do any of this in his own. The man can't read a teleprompter, can't answer questions, can't even complete a sentence coherently, has to be told where to stand, what to say and think. He's been lying about almost everything for 50 years. Meanwhile oblunder directs his minions behind the scenes to destroy our country. Ugh

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Apr 27, 2024 11:11:02   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
straightUp wrote:
A recent NBC News Poll lists the top two concerns for Biden supporters and the top two concerns for Trump supporters. The poll indicates that among strong Biden supporters, the top two issues are... A******n and Uniting the Country.

Regardless of how you feel about a******n, the fact remains that this is a big concern for many. The second thing to note is that there is a very clear and feasible path for overriding the Supreme Court by passing a law through Congress that guarantees a woman's right to choose. Efforts are already underway to make this happen and Biden has resolved to support the effort.

Again... not arguing whether it's right or wrong, just pointing out that this change is within political reach. The plan already underway *IS* feasible, which is giving the Biden supporters a good reason to v**e for him.

The second one, uniting the country, is something I would say is NOT within political reach. This may be a top concern for Biden supporters but whether or not Biden can actually do something about it, is in my opinion, doubtful. The divide is cultural and runs too deep. It may have metastasized into politics under Trump but he certainly didn't create it... Trump was leveraging the divide that was already there, which is something we've never seen a president do before. Trump was the first president to openly favor one half of the American people over the other half and I think avoiding another one-sided presidency is what drives this concern.

Moving over to the other side, the poll indicates that among Trump supporters, the top two issues are... Inflation and Competency.

Personally, I agree with the Trump supporters that inflation is the most pressing issue for most of us, but much like the cultural divide, I think inflation is something that no president can do much about. There are of course lot's of politically motivated theories and baseless accusations that push the narrative that Biden caused inflation, but an honest assessment of our post-p******c economy, the free market and the banking system will tell us that inflation is being driven by forces that are almost entirely outside p**********l control.

Finally, there is competency... a top concern for the first time ever. Perhaps this is because our choice in 2024 is between the two oldest p**********l candidates in our history. But it's only a top concern for Trump supporters. Well, Biden *is* four years older, but for his supporters it's not a top concern. For them, Biden seems to have proven himself over the last three years to be fully competent with his decisions, despite his age, his geriatric walk and his stammering at the podium. Some of his supporters also know that he has assembled the youngest administration in history and that he actually listens to them.

On the Trump side, where the concern is elevated to the top notches, it's hard not to see it as a vindictive stab for the constant questioning of Trump's competency during his term. But there is also the fact that right-wing media obscures the very things that assures Biden supporters of their candidates competency, while honing in on his stammering and anything else that emphasizes his age.

I also want to point out that political moves rarely satisfy everyone. Any move a president makes will be strongly opposed by some and regardless of how competent the move might actually be, it's become normal for those in opposition to call it an incompetent move.

So what these four concerns tell us is that Biden supporters are more tuned into reality, with the only concern out of the four that can actually be affected by their supported candidate and the other concern being the only one out of the four that can be avoided by NOT v****g for opposing candidate. The Trump supporters seem to be entirely driven by their dislike toward the opponent with one concern that neither of the candidates can fix (so why would it even be an e******n issue?) and one concern about the opposing candidates (competency) that strongly suggests the concern *should* be about the supporters themselves.
A recent NBC News Poll lists the top two concerns ... (show quote)


The most pressing issue for the most people is i*****l i*********n, with inflation running a very close second. You say there is not much a president can do about inflation. Printing too much money is a primary cause. Kneecapping your f****l f**l industry, which Biden did his first couple of weeks in office, is another way to really get that inflation ball rolling. Inflation averaged 1.25% under Trump. Biden boasted of "lowering" inflation to "only" 3.5% from a high of 9% brought on in large part by his insane energy policies. Something like 8 out of every 10 dollars currently in circulation has been printed since Biden took office.

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Apr 27, 2024 12:23:03   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Parky60 wrote:
<< Biden seems to have proven himself over the last three years to be fully competent with his decisions, despite his age, his geriatric walk and his stammering at the podium. >>

You have got to be one of the most willfully blind people on the planet.

I'm not so blind that I can't see how you lopped off the first part of my sentence that said "For them, Biden seems to have proven himself over the last three years to be fully competent with his decisions..."

That changes the context. So, I'm not sure if you're trying to be crafty or if you're just too r****ded to even notice.

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Apr 27, 2024 12:30:23   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
straightUp wrote:
I'm not so blind that I can't see how you lopped off the first part of my sentence that said "For them, Biden seems to have proven himself over the last three years to be fully competent with his decisions..."

That changes the context. So, I'm not sure if you're trying to be crafty or if you're just too r****ded to even notice.

So you're saying that you don't agree with "their" assessment?... liar. You've alluded to before that Biden is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

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Apr 27, 2024 12:36:28   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Jim0001 wrote:
"Trump was the first president to openly favor one half of the American people over the other half and I think avoiding another one-sided presidency is what drives this concern."

does Obama's bitter clingers Hillary's insults and Biden's comments not count?

I don't remember any such insults or comments being incorporated into a political strategy. And while you're obsessing over isolated comments that can easily be ignored, I am referring to the fact that Trump never made any attempt to reach across the aisle in matters of legislation. One of Biden's biggest scores was the infrastructure bill in which he worked with Republicans to gain bipartisan support. Name one significant bill in which Trump worked with Democrats. There isn't any. Trump *IS* the first and only president to turn his back entirely on the loyal opposition.

Jim0001 wrote:

Obama is the most d******e president in America's history. Saul Alinsky would be proud.

Any division that occurred under Obama was the result of r****ts reactions to the first black president. It would have been the same for ANY black president.

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Apr 27, 2024 12:50:57   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Parky60 wrote:
So you're saying that you don't agree with "their" assessment?... liar.

It doesn't matter if I agree with their assessment or not, I wasn't grading the assessment, I was simply stating that Biden supporters *seem* to be convinced that Biden's decision-making is competent. Are you going to disagree or are you going to keep pussy-footing around looking for ways to stab me?

Parky60 wrote:

You've alluded to before that Biden is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Show me. Prove it. Be a man.

The fact is, I have some serious issues with Biden. For instance, I strongly oppose his support for the Israeli genocide of the Palestinian people.

Don't assume that the support for Biden is a cult of personality like it is for Trump because it's not. We don't run around with Biden hats and Biden f**gs. We don't by tickets to Biden rallies. We will support him in the 2024 e******n because, all things considered, we think he's a better choice than Trump.

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Apr 27, 2024 13:01:45   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Jim0001 wrote:
We are still experiencing Obama's presidency. This is his third term! Joebama is just the front man.

Trump was such a departure from the norm that ANY successor will appear to be a return to what was before. This is why Hillary once stated that Democrats are effectively the conservatives in today's political picture. I tend to agree.

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Apr 27, 2024 13:04:34   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
guzzimaestro wrote:
Correct. Bidumb couldn't do any of this in his own. The man can't read a teleprompter, can't answer questions, can't even complete a sentence coherently, has to be told where to stand, what to say and think. He's been lying about almost everything for 50 years. Meanwhile oblunder directs his minions behind the scenes to destroy our country. Ugh

It sounds like you're getting all agitated by flim-flam conspiracy theories.

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Apr 27, 2024 13:33:12   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Parky60 wrote:
<< Biden seems to have proven himself over the last three years to be fully competent with his decisions, despite his age, his geriatric walk and his stammering at the podium. >>

You have got to be one of the most willfully blind people on the planet.


Biden is one of a very large National party !
Trump is one of of his own small maga party !
Hardly national . With pocket factions mostly in
Red Socialist States.

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Apr 27, 2024 13:43:54   #
AuH20
 
straightUp wrote:
A recent NBC News Poll lists the top two concerns for Biden supporters and the top two concerns for Trump supporters. The poll indicates that among strong Biden supporters, the top two issues are... A******n and Uniting the Country.

Regardless of how you feel about a******n, the fact remains that this is a big concern for many. The second thing to note is that there is a very clear and feasible path for overriding the Supreme Court by passing a law through Congress that guarantees a woman's right to choose. Efforts are already underway to make this happen and Biden has resolved to support the effort.

Again... not arguing whether it's right or wrong, just pointing out that this change is within political reach. The plan already underway *IS* feasible, which is giving the Biden supporters a good reason to v**e for him.

The second one, uniting the country, is something I would say is NOT within political reach. This may be a top concern for Biden supporters but whether or not Biden can actually do something about it, is in my opinion, doubtful. The divide is cultural and runs too deep. It may have metastasized into politics under Trump but he certainly didn't create it... Trump was leveraging the divide that was already there, which is something we've never seen a president do before. Trump was the first president to openly favor one half of the American people over the other half and I think avoiding another one-sided presidency is what drives this concern.

Moving over to the other side, the poll indicates that among Trump supporters, the top two issues are... Inflation and Competency.

Personally, I agree with the Trump supporters that inflation is the most pressing issue for most of us, but much like the cultural divide, I think inflation is something that no president can do much about. There are of course lot's of politically motivated theories and baseless accusations that push the narrative that Biden caused inflation, but an honest assessment of our post-p******c economy, the free market and the banking system will tell us that inflation is being driven by forces that are almost entirely outside p**********l control.

Finally, there is competency... a top concern for the first time ever. Perhaps this is because our choice in 2024 is between the two oldest p**********l candidates in our history. But it's only a top concern for Trump supporters. Well, Biden *is* four years older, but for his supporters it's not a top concern. For them, Biden seems to have proven himself over the last three years to be fully competent with his decisions, despite his age, his geriatric walk and his stammering at the podium. Some of his supporters also know that he has assembled the youngest administration in history and that he actually listens to them.

On the Trump side, where the concern is elevated to the top notches, it's hard not to see it as a vindictive stab for the constant questioning of Trump's competency during his term. But there is also the fact that right-wing media obscures the very things that assures Biden supporters of their candidates competency, while honing in on his stammering and anything else that emphasizes his age.

I also want to point out that political moves rarely satisfy everyone. Any move a president makes will be strongly opposed by some and regardless of how competent the move might actually be, it's become normal for those in opposition to call it an incompetent move.

So what these four concerns tell us is that Biden supporters are more tuned into reality, with the only concern out of the four that can actually be affected by their supported candidate and the other concern being the only one out of the four that can be avoided by NOT v****g for opposing candidate. The Trump supporters seem to be entirely driven by their dislike toward the opponent with one concern that neither of the candidates can fix (so why would it even be an e******n issue?) and one concern about the opposing candidates (competency) that strongly suggests the concern *should* be about the supporters themselves.
A recent NBC News Poll lists the top two concerns ... (show quote)


”a******n” ”The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined.”
James Madison, Federalist 45, 1788

Illégal immigration/legal immigration - Shutdown the border for a length of time.

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