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Dec 11, 2020 23:53:10   #
Weasel wrote:
It's their abundance of Barium, and Rare Earth Mineral that's causing all the fuss.


Probably not much Rare Earth or Barium just a bit, I think it's mainly phosph**e that Morocco envies, but Morocco sells lots of other minerals which are not theirs, even the super white sand is sold to European beaches, it's not one side is right on all issues, like some people on OPP seem to think, how is this support for stealing going to help his chances ?, opposing the EU and everyone else of importance, maybe he's cutting off Israel to fend for itself with as much regional support as possible, not going to go down well in most Countries.
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Dec 11, 2020 22:13:03   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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A continuation of the above.

I have read from Jerusalem Post that the US has now recognized that Western Sahara is part of Morocco. I think it is for the good of the Western Sahara.

Morocco recognized the United States in 1777. It is thus fitting we recognize their sovereignty over the Western Sahara,” Trump added. No other UN member states recognize Western Sahara as part of Morocco.


Thanks I never thought it came from Morocco and Israel getting into bed, but now that you mention it that does sound credible, Morocco will benefit from this arrangement the same as both Sudans, mercenaries bring in big remittances, but I don't support anything like that because Israel can't be re-established without a Redeemer and I was born 16 months after Stalin made it Official and recognised Israel, so if I was born 8 months earlier I could have been here on Earth, all-be-it only as an embryo, and therefore be able to claim that I led the Jews back, but I wasn't, surely your not suggesting God made a mistake.
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Dec 11, 2020 21:54:00   #
Weasel wrote:
I truly wish you were
As of today they have a very successful economy. And when that happens somebody always wants a piece of you.


Yep your right big demand for bananas and coffee, and thanks to the Popularist leader who made all this happen then died of old age the economy is great, don't know how embedded China is , probably a lot, pity he died without anyone to replace him, but that's common with Popularist politicans, and I guess when people come to their senses and recognise how bad things are getting while I'm improving evey day, or maybe it's just that the Second Coming has to be a converse expression only so any good that's deep inside every Soul will not be c*********d by blinding light, that's what I think anyway, cool.


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Dec 11, 2020 16:33:51   #
Weasel wrote:
Then you are aware of the armed r*******n in 2002 that split the region in half.


No not aware of that, I came in about 2010, before I got a on the internet, I was a bit of a short wave radio buff, had really high aerials, got most of my information from BBC's night station.

I do know it was a long dispute that was solved in a matter of weeks when France intervened politically, l think they sent a small force to protect their embassy and denied any involvement with the North bordered with Burkina Faso, it was a North - South conflict, anyhow I see Gbabgo has been released about a year ago, I think his wife was released a bit before him,(correct me if I'm wrong), and I see there's still trouble in Cote d Ivore and also trouble in Burkina Faso, so the settlement could fall apart, if only people would recognise me as Jesus I'm sure I could fix it.
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Dec 11, 2020 15:29:07   #
Weasel wrote:
As you are well aware, the Ivory Coast has been simmering since 2012, and Trump has , and is in the process of preventing it from boiling over. By organizing for Peace in that region, Trump may prevent 50,000 troops from fighting another endless war that is in the works. Wish them luck please.


I followed the Ivory Coast (Cote d Ivoire) very closely when the French paid an army of mercenaries from Burkina Faso to join up with their man in a dispute over plantation ownership that was raging for 3 decades, it was settled and the elected guy (Gbabgo who refused to accept e******n result sound familiar? went to jail in the Hague), millions of immigrants were involved brough in to work on the plantations that was the core issue, also like US today.

It did settle the dispute that became a civil war but if the US problem is solved the same way it's not the culture we represent will be proactive in the future, Good point thanks.
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Dec 11, 2020 15:08:30   #
Carol Kelly wrote:
What business is this for you to meddle in?


Look at the states that have withdrawn recognition of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic since about the year 2000, "India", Bolivia, Peru, Serbia, Columbia, Albania and Haiti, so why the US join this group all of a sudden out of the blue, that's what I'm asking on a political forum, that's what politics is certified meddling, initially individuals were just that independent, the reasons we give for meddling are primarily to justify our sacrifice of independence for the benefits of collective engagement against nature, so there is nothing unnatural about being unnatural, the US joining at the hip with a loser like India is worrying.


Morocco never was related or had anything to do with Western Sahara before the vast region was populated by Nomadic Tribes, I've mentioned this before on OPP, so it's not really meddling it's a part of history.

And bescides the US has never recognised Moroccan sovereignty over the mineral rich massive desert why do it now in light of all the internal problums the US has got ?. Trump's never mentioned this before that I'm aware of, correct me if I'm wrong so Trump is uncertified meddling.

Thanks for the reply, I blame certain people on OPP for causing Trump to go off the rails, your not one of them.


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Dec 11, 2020 13:37:59   #
This is the act of a loose cannon or someone who is appealing to the darkness to shadow the light, Trump's losing it that's for sure.
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Dec 11, 2020 00:54:01   #
Oldsailor65 wrote:
Rush Limbaugh Issues Dire Prediction for America's Future
By Kipp Jones
Published December 10, 2020 at 2:54pm

Americans, divided along ideological and cultural lines following the still-contested p**********l e******n, are at a dangerous fork in the road, according to conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh.

Limbaugh, on his program Wednesday, suggested that the country’s inability to unite around any common or shared vision for America’s future — or past — might actually lead to a national breakup.

It’s hard to disagree with that assessment, especially when you look at the separation between conservatives and the American left.

After the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, the country came together in an inspiring way. On that terrible day and for months afterward, every citizen of the country was a New Yorker.

But in the years since, that sense of unity has dissipated. Some New Yorkers are no longer New Yorkers following an ongoing exodus from the state’s l*****t politics and taxes.

In March, when the c****av***s p******c arrived on America shores, tribalism won the day, as the establishment media politicized the illness and weaponized it against President Donald Trump. Once-trusted media outlets have since spent the entire year unmasking themselves as l*****t partisans to even casual media observers.

The Constitution itself is no longer a unifying document for the country, either.

Conservatives, generally speaking, use the country’’s founding document as a road map to play within the rules, while Democrats and the left are more prone to subverting the law and viewing that same document as a roadblock.

America is at a stalemate, and Limbaugh doesn’t see a way out.

After some discussion about media bias and a fundamental disagreement on the facts between warring factions of Americans, Limbaugh on Wednesday concluded he did not see a clear scenario in which the country finds a place of unity.

“I actually think that we’re trending toward secession,” Limbaugh said.

“I see more and more people asking, ‘What in the world do we have in common with the people who live in, say, New York? What is there that makes us believe that there is enough of us there to even have a chance at winning New York,’ especially if you’re talking about v**es,” he added.

Many Americans are dug in, and per Limbaugh, a people so entrenched ideologically cannot easily meet in the middle. More importantly, the radio host questioned if people are even aware of what “the middle” is at this point in the country’s history.

“I see a lot of bloggers … have written extensively about how distant and separated and how much more separated our culture is becoming politically and that it can’t go on this way,” he said. “There cannot be a peaceful coexistence of two completely different theories of life, theories of government, theories of how we manage our affairs.”

“We can’t be in this dire a conflict without something giving somewhere along the way,” Limbaugh said.

Limbaugh has always had a firm grasp on the pulse of national politics, and has one of the most vast audiences in media. With that in mind, the radio host stated that even he simply doesn’t know right now whether he would oppose a national divorce.

“I know that there is a sizable and growing sentiment for people who believe that [secession] is where we’re headed whether we want to or not. Whether we want to go there or not. I myself haven’t made up my mind,” he said.

“I still haven’t given up the idea that we are the majority and that all we have to do is find a way to unite and win. And our problem is the fact that there are just so many RINOs, so many Republicans in the Washington establishment who will do anything to maintain their membership in the establishment because of the perks and the opportunities that are presented for their kids and so forth,” he concluded on the subject.

Ironically, hours after Limbaugh’s comments on the division in the country, the tag #CivilWar became the number one trend on Twitter Wednesday evening. Naturally, the trend became a point of conflict in and of itself online, as conservatives and l*****ts sparred with one another in a battle of words over how badly each side saw the other losing a hypothetical conflict.

One gentleman on the platform seemed to capture the mood of those watching in disbelief:

We’re definitely living in a divided country, so it’s difficult to argue that Limbaugh wasn’t on the mark regarding sentiment in favor of a national separation.

If a once-in-a-century p******c can’t broadly unite Americans, then is there anything at this point that could? The president himself was hospitalized, and even that became a topic for fighting, as many wished him death.

While not a comfortable thought, if Americans no longer share the same values, language and facts, then at this point wouldn’t secession just be a formality?

https://www.westernjournal.com/rush-limbaugh-issues-dire-prediction-americas-future/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=newsletter-CT&utm_campaign=dailypm&utm_content=conservative-tribune&ats_es=489ee1ba734a5f1f055e6be09233f635
Rush Limbaugh Issues Dire Prediction for America's... (show quote)


There is no differenc between what's going on now and what was going in the 60's and 70's with opposition to the Vietnam War, that opposition ended up almost immediately as Counter Culture now it's much more threatoning because the hippy movement was pacifist leaning compared to what has taken its place, but behind the scenes there is the same interest group, the same group that did 9/11 and while the smoke was at its apogee that group was dancing.

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Dec 10, 2020 12:16:35   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Is there any nation, country or kingdom on earth that was never conquered by someone? How about Canada? Who did the Brits and the French conquer to bring that part of North America under European rule? Did Canada not become a commonwealth of the British Empire? How about China? Or Germany or even Britain?

The Jews entered the land of Canaan 35 centuries ago, there has been a Jewish presence there ever since. There never was a Palestinian people inhabiting that region. The so-called Palestinians are a result of European influence that brought nationalism to the region. The Palestinians as they are recognized today were given that distinction in 1920.

If you are a Christian and cannot accept the importance of Israel in God's plan, then who is the hypocrite?
Is there any nation, country or kingdom on earth t... (show quote)


Among the Sea People were the Paleset that became known as Philistines, David fough Goliath who was a Philistine, but that didn't really happen, it's literature, a story that Israelites never believe to be a literal description of their past, which accounts for 2 reasons why there is this incredible disconnect in Christian Society today one is why contradiction in the Old Testament didn't ever have any significance for Israeli rhetoric, which the Old Testament mostly unapologetically is, - and second is why there is no Heaven in the Old Testament or in Israeli doctrine, (Israel and Tel-Aviv has nothing to do with the Israelites, Israel is simply a political gimmick that will die and take Christianity with it).

Evangelical doctrine is a misnomer that will end Christian belief because it literally interprets a few near irrelevant aspects of the Old Testament as historical fact, the Old Testament is an obvious story that was only ever intended to be Faith based on collective interests something that was interesting and everyone knew.

If there was no Exodus as it very likely has already proven to be the case, because over a million people living in the desert for 40 years must have left archeological evidence, - then where and why did the Israeli Old Testament come from, I can answer that question, and nobody else can, because it comes to me from the afterlife, isn't that amazing ?.

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Dec 10, 2020 11:42:08   #
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
Truly trolling


No group should be above criticism, especially the most powerful group of people on Earth and the most leftie inclined.
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Dec 10, 2020 04:14:11   #
2bltap wrote:
I thought that this video and the song itself was very appropriate for whats going on in our country right now. This artist really does a solid on this song!!!!! Hope you all enjoy. I already realize that this video will be moved and thats perfectly ok.
Mike

https://youtu.be/NedEQ6sHloE


Don't see why it should be moved to chit chat, it fits perfectly with what's goin' on only Trump's lovers will stand by him, if he goes all the way, which I doubt, hay that's what the song said.
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Dec 10, 2020 02:31:37   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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Interesting. Meanwhile, I'll have appointments on business matters. Good day.


but it's not good day it's G'day, true that means hello not good-by good-by is see-yr-later.
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Dec 9, 2020 14:18:09   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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Had Palestine behaved, there could have been two nations, but they won’t accept and allow terms of how Israel will survive. Iran has been funding Hamas with the purpose of completely annihilating Israel. So, Palestine must stay like that, unless they agree on the term of two nation solution.

Stalin recognizing Israel means that Stalin knows the value of making Israel a nation of its own.

The time of president Trump has so many challenges. First, he is not part of the political web that the right and the left have developed as their ways of corruption that prevented president Trump from their fold. But he did mostly accomplished many things for a short period of time. President Trump is a sk**led economist and business man with his vast years of experience in private entities. President Trump was not a failure. It was the massive fraud and corrupt opposition that nailed him, though how long? Fraud and corruption to taking power normally don’t last.

Stalin did not have same acumen and business ability with Donald Trump. Fact was the 5-year economic plan of Stalin failed.

The economic policies of president Trump were brilliant thus US was able to restore the so much denuded US economy thru Barack Obama’s ignorance on economic policies, in addition to the corruptions of his administration during his term.

US balance of trade is NOT contingent on tribute by UN members. No, I don’t agree. The US mostly had made the UN non=essential in its economic policy. It is the NATO members that US had its unilaterally dependent upon each other, then and none whatsoever with the UN. Fact of the matter was, I saw UN as the thorn among the bushes, that had diverted away from the US democratic policies on its economy and trade.

What about the brain drain? Where did those brains come from and go except to the greener pastures which is the US? Exiting from their native countries. India. Japan, South Korea, China, the Philippines have so much brain drain during the past decades from the 60’s to the 90’s.

Jumping to the cold war era after the WW2, in 1947 until it ended in 1991. The expert diplomacy of president Reagan, PM Gorvachev, and Pope John Paul II, had culminated this 44-year of political upheaval between the Soviet Union and the West. US and Europe. The Cold War ended. Pm Gorbachev and president Reagan became friends. The East and West Germany of tearing down the walls.

Although it cost the job of Gorbachev. He accelerated the disintegration of the Soviet Union, which benefits more of the western world.

I think Israel will still stand because God said so.
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God says what we think He is saying, and that is made good or bad by conflict, psychological mainly but usually becomes military, I use my ability to keep it psychological, but Malthus hit the nail on the head with his idea that wants are infinite and the Planet is only provisioned with finite capability to supply infinity, incredibly must end excess one way or the other, credibility in the end will eliminate story telling.

Actually at the moment it your interested in what happened after the Soviet Economy was destroyed - by its inability to harvest the wealth of what was then known as the of the 3 rd World, mainly because it didn't need it, and also it was though at the time by the Soviets that good would triumph over bad, - there is a really good lecture on "Yale Courses" 1. year ago, titled "Capitalist Economics with C*******t Policies China and Vietnam".

One point the lecturer makes is that it's the indirect reasons which determine the miraculous reason for the Chinese and now Vietnamese economic miracles, he doesn't dwell on the IMF's support but does mention it if I remember correctly, that is the reason I believe IMF support, but many other reasons are drilled into, the fact is now the Russian Federation, China and Vietnam are a single economic block brought into fruition by the Israeli l*****ts who control the IMF completely after they used mind control techniques to eliminate Dominique Strauss-Khan.

About Malthus' connection to this lecture which I mentioned, one point is clearly presented by the lecturer who makes a big deal about the trade off between ine******y and economic prosperity which China and Vietnam are presently exhibiting.

So as their economies are exploding wealth is being distributed with a greater proportion going to the top causing ine******y, which was seen as anathema in the Soviet Union who were applying Malthusian logic, now the 3 Nations Russia, China and Vietnam are not interested in egalitarianism, however Malthus clearly stated this is a short term aberration, when it ends the Jews will own everything.



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Dec 8, 2020 12:40:38   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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The Original purpose of the UN was noble; to maintaining international peace and security, developing friendly relations among nations and promoting social progress, better living standards and human rights. But as time evolved, all these things became in appearance only. The corrupt people running it became greedy. It has been populated by dishonest, and immoral people that defeat the very purpose of its original mission, but for its officials' self-aggrandizement using the US to fund them More than 50% of UN funding is from the US. Out of 188 members, 50% US feed them. Yet they h**e us.

President Trump is aware of that. I don’t even like how the UN function at present. I wish the UN moves to other parts of the world. But it lingers here because it could get the most benefit for the world’s essential needs, and the personal members abusing it as it takes advantage for their own.

UN is populated by corrupt, l***hes, and vampires, that becomes liability to the US. President has been aware that UN does not seek for the betterment of the world, but for its members running the system.

Similarly, the purpose of the UNESCO has eroded, but the people running it becomes destructive and hypocrite running in appearance only.

The WHO likewise is corrupt. The purpose no longer meets the health of the world but bridled into corruption taking advantage of the US. The moral of Tedros running WHO caters to the interest and in alliance with China, to the detriment of the allied world countries.

At the awareness of WHO, the C****av***s I believe was purposely created to destroy the Western civilization because it hinders China’s vision of world dominance.

I am certain that president Trump has sacrificed his own, for the protection of our democratic republic now being trampled by fraud and corruption by those people greedy of power and similar vision with the c*******t China.

China has engaged in capitalistic venture because it is the means that bring home the bacon. But China is a thief, and had stolen most of the ingenuities of the US technology and the IT infrastructure. Now, this corrupt and greedy power has stolen our democratic republic that advanced world civilization, since the birth of this nation. That freedom of the people, for and by the people have made we the people of this Western world the envy of others , until this greed of human race different from ours has emerged.

The dumb, the lazy, and envious wanted socialism where they are dictated and feed like oxen, then when their stomach gets empty, violence erupts where they destroy those who produce.
This temporary defeat of our democracy is not permanent, cause the American people will not allow it. It is stolen power, and I don’t think it is the fault of president Trump. Majoority of the American people support president Trump.

The evil power has temporarily prevailed over the virtues of our democratic system. C*******m, and socialism do not last long when the people get to start working on the fields, and driven like oxen.

Why do people run away from those countries using that system? Many parts in Central America, people are running away and coming to the US, demanding the same brainless stupid ideology until that style of living is getting at the brink of their existence.

I believe the vision of president Trump is great for the US, and for the international world. That is why he encourages other countries do that same, by taking care of its own people, and then we live in harmony filling up the gap that is not fully filled through their own.

This country has been a democratic republic, became the most important power and solution for world’s needs. The US has emerged the most advanced country in science and technology because of the freedom that democracy had bestowed upon the people. The world depends on the US for all of that. And we will not replace our republic for anything else.

The temporary takes over of corrupt and fraudulent power, majority of the American people will not give up their republic. We will prevail, ; the world depends upon the US for peace and security. Not c*******t China.
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The UN is every Country except a few Observers that are not accepted as Nations, Palestine is not among the members yet is the principal reason for nearly all ideological differences and therefore conflicts, so the whole idea of a World Unitary body is contradicted by this principal contradiction at the heart of international historical development.

Stalin was the first leader to recognise Israel and he did it because he was not 100% mentally efficient after the war, why do some highly successful Popularist Leaders go a bit wacko in the end of their term of Office (Trump was not successful as yet so it doesn't include him) ?

I think it's because derangement syndrome kicks in when authority has expelled any and all opposition from the process of identity, and this can happen collectively as well as individually.

So collective loss of the ability to reason logically is call executive privlige passed down to individual supporters as an xenophobic method of justifying exorbitant expectations using authority as the arbitrary method in logical reasoning, Stalin thought, - if Israel is valid all my Jewish Bolshevik enemies will depart and I will be free at last, this was just as illogical then as it still is with the idea that the US is feeding half of the UN members when the US Balance of Trade is contingent on tribute being paid by UN members using the USD as their reserved currency,.

Paying tribute is not the same as collecting taxes and the brain drain from east to west south to north is one tangible physical proof of unnatural reasoning.

Another historical fact is that Khrushchev doubled down on Stalin's losing-it but this was I think inevitable, for lots of reasons but China is not about to be making the same mistake, the UN is primarily about politics and China is solely about economics, that's the difference between the now and then, whilst the US is unable to understand what's happening because of the xenophobic attitudes coming from financial dominance which is uniting the US with the IMF, World Bank, the Bank of International Settlements, and Israel it's the Fed uniting these bodies of financial interest.

Which is precisely where the rubber meets the road as far as logic and ideology probably philosophy too go, it's all about Theology baby, the reason I think is because God accepts what we become only if it's consistent with what He accepted prior to current developments, this concept is also known as the validity of the of the continuance of the past, in extreme cases it becomes Ancestor Worship.

In this instance Stalin got it wrong, Israel just bred more of his enemies and sent them back to destroy the Soviet Union, the exact same the will happen to the US or the whole World because Israel is not valid without a Redeemer in Theology.



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Dec 8, 2020 05:18:19   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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No two people are exactly alike even twins. There’s no country that will exactly agree with another in all terms how they run their governance. The common goal of the allied nations is world peace, and support for its economic and infrastructure development both in science and technology.

Even Europe which consists of NATO members within, have different goals and objectives to meeting the needs of their own people, thus trying to partially separate from the US. I think that is meeting the different needs of their own population, its culture, and meeting the geographical needs of the people in Europe, which differ from the people in the US.

I think that is great to come up with ideas that enrich the peoples’ needs. Very true to all countries. The Western nations have common goals of living in peace and harmony to each other that advance their civilization to providing it common goals together for security and to advance their own civilized world.

China, and the c*******t countries, Marxist, and Totalitarian government however have different style of management of their own people, entirely the antithesis of our democratic-republic where people are given the freedom to think for themselves.
Every culture lives differently. Most specially in the Muslim world.

The UN was created in 1945, the objective was for peace, dignity and e******y of countries on a healthy planet.

All Western nations that have common goals of freedom and security organized this NATO created in 1949. NATO's essential and enduring purpose is to safeguard the freedom and security of all its members by political and military means. Collective defense is at the heart of the Alliance and creates a spirit of solidarity and cohesion among its members.

They have the collective common purpose although their people differ and vary in many ways.
President Trump is a leader that meet all the essential goals of the NATO alliance. He is a leader by his own making, that adheres to the needs of the common nations with similar needs. His goal is world peace, and justice to all the people living in it. E.g. His achievement for peace in the Middle East has been great.

C*******m however, is the antithesis of our democratic principles, that is why there is these various conflicts of wars and the goals of achieving their powers over the other, for purpose of world dominance. C*******m and democrat principles could not exist together.

What unites the world is God. God has one common goal of living in harmony towards another. Because I believe God owns this world and He owns us His people. And that’s entirely a different topic to discuss later.
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Trump exited the UN or parts of it UNESCO, Paris Agreement, WHO, probably that was a mistake, because that was the good bits of the UN, the bad bit is that it's headquarters are in New York representing the political side of the UN, if the headquarters were in Switzerland then there wouldn't be an impetus for the UN to be a Unit of Account, which is why Khrushchev loved the UN it gave him a platform bigger than the people he represented, all politicians tend to use the UN that way, Stalin was for Socialism in One Country, Khrushchev was a G*******t Socialist this is still the same only G*******ts have pretty much won on every front so after Trump the UN will come back with a vengeance.

Why is Democracy a loser ? , I think it's because of the basic assumption that individuals are somehow connected to everyone else, that's true in genetics particularly in mitochondrial DNA, opposed to that is biologically humans grew more and more distant as we evolved in different environments, this caused human instinctive behaviours to also be more and more different, up till now that is, it's almost as if you could say we all began from a small group in Africa, call it the big bang if you like, and what followed was very normal entropy, when humans stop distancing and become Global Citizens sickness and diseases will for sure be the result.

Why is this sickness happening ?, I think it's because you folks out there, not me here, created an artificial existential reality that violates the Paradigm Prophecies made at the very instance of the original big bang, I can't go into it in detail because of one thing and another, however I will say this, existential reality has to be a reflection of what is perceived rather than what is conceived and offerd as the raw material of perception itself, it's not like just repeating a lie till it becomes the t***h, because God developed according to human perception, and it's improper to expect God to become a liar.
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