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Jun 1, 2019 22:37:26   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
I see, so you are an autodidact who never learned that the field of medicine is actually science. What sciences does one need to learn to become a medical doctor or physician? How about biology or chemistry or physics or human genetics? Do you think these might be necessary toward becoming an M.D.?

Do you own or take advantage of anything that is not the result of intelligent design?




Well yes a medical doctor must know biology and more so You couls say they gave to know some science but are you saying a medical doctor knows all about climate science. Or cosmology how about ecology I see no reason why a medical doctor should have to study ecology or paleontology How ever it is impressive that Frances Collins helped develop the human genome. I recognize that between 30 and 40 % of scientist believe in a god but I do not find that to be persuasive studies reveal that the most important factors in belief were related to upbringing and family status, and not area of expertise. The fact that social scientists as well as those in the natural sciences expressed nearly the same disbelief in God suggests that rejection of God's existence is not a result of knowledge in any particular area of expertise.
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Jun 1, 2019 22:08:26   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
What is the problem with an education in religion or theology? This field of study is just as valid as any others.

You have no grounds other than your own ignorance to say the Gospel of John is a lie.

Nik says, "Whos character is being attacked Blade Runner says those people are scientist And I point out they are not Scientist --how is that attacking their character ???"

John Lennox is Emeritus Professor of Mathematics at the University of Oxford and an Emeritus Fellow in Mathematics and Philosophy of Science at Green Templeton College, Oxford University.

Steven Meyer holds B.S. degrees in physics and earth science and a Ph.D. in history and philosophy of science. He co-founded the Center for Science and Culture (CSC) of the Discovery Institute, and

Francis Collins earned a Bachelor of Science degree in Chemistry in 1970. He went on to graduate as a Doctor of Philosophy in physical chemistry at Yale University. He is an American physician-geneticist who discovered the genes associated with a number of diseases and led the Human Genome Project. He is director of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in Bethesda, Maryland.

President Obama awarded Collins the P**********l Medal of Freedom. The award citation read, in part, “This monumental advance in scientific knowledge has begun to unlock some of the great mysteries of human life and has created the potential to develop treatments and cures for some of the most serious diseases. The United States honors Francis Collins for his efforts to decode human DNA and improve human health.”

What more powerful form of study of mankind could there be than to read our own instruction book?
Francis Collins.

Lee Strobel, a former atheist, earned a journalism degree from University of Missouri and a Master of Studies in Law degree from Yale Law School. He was an invesigative journalist and the legal editor of the Chicago Tribune.

C.S. Lewis received a First in Honour Moderations (Greek and Latin literature) in 1920, a First in Greats (Philosophy and Ancient History) in 1922, and a First in English in 1923. In 1924 he became a philosophy tutor at University College and, in 1925, was elected a Fellow and Tutor in English Literature at Magdalen College, where he served for 29 years until 1954.

List of Christians in Science and Technology

Can your academic achievements match any one of these men?
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I know Steven Meyer is a cofounder Discovery institute and intelligent design which is P***********e. Frances Collins worked on the human genome project and his education is in medicine not science. C S Lewis was another writer and not a scientist. No I don't have a piece of paper that describes an academic achievement from an institution but I have 55 years of self study in history, science, astronomy, cosmology, ecology, paleontology, politics and religion
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Jun 1, 2019 21:43:35   #
John King wrote:
By not addressing what they said! Regardless of their credentials, they have made a point that you have disregarded by debunking them BECAUSE of their lack of your acceptable credentials! You have prejudged them based on a lack of . . . or inadequate credentials! That is an attack on their character . . . and it TOTALLY skirts the subject or point being made by them!!!






That's ridiculous logic They have said a lot I made no mention of what they have said a lot in their various endeavors. The point was made that these were on a list of apologist who had science degrees and my point was they are Christian apologist's and are not scientist nor do they have science degrees. It has nothing to do with their character
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Jun 1, 2019 20:54:01   #
John King wrote:
I find it extremely exasperating when the character of people is addressed instead of the arguments posed! It seems like people are stuck on stupid and don't have any real arguments to debunk a persons position when they start attacking the character and intelligence of the opposition! It is sad that folks devolve to such a point as to completely skirt the issue and slam a persons character instead of the issue at hand!!!





Whos character is being attacked Blade Runner says those people are scientist And I point out they are not Scientist --how is that attacking their character ???
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Jun 1, 2019 20:50:09   #
Rose42 wrote:
You sure plagiarize a lot







What ?? this is in Richard Dawkins own words
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Jun 1, 2019 20:29:33   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Actually, Nik, the work these Biblical research and archeological organizations do is based on Natural sciences such as Geology, Anthropology, Physics, Chemistry, and they are using state-of-the-art electronics and computer technology in their labs.

FYI: Christian Apologists, such as Ravi Zacharias, John Lennox, Lee Strobel, William Lane Craig, Josh McDowell, C.S. Lewis, G.K. Chesterton, Stephen C. Meyer--all of whom have degrees in science--have been cross-examined or questioned by atheists in debates and conferences around the world.
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https://youtu.be/6mmskXXetcg
Richard Dawkins speaking at Jerry Falwell's Liberty University


Lee Strobel is the author of A case for Christ which I found to be ludicrous since all the witnesses were Theologians and priests and various religious figures presenting their case from a witness stand but not one cross examination. He is a writer and his education is in law not science. Stephen Meyer is an advocate of P***********e and is not a scientist, Ravi Zacharias education is in religion not science, he says John 14;19 converted him. But the fourth gospel John is the biggest lie. https://youtu.be/AJMd5UiTeys
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Jun 1, 2019 16:46:10   #






https://youtu.be/nh6wgcgZjWM
These are all apologist sites-- what would you expect them to say, Christian sites are going to make a case for the bible. But thre is no cross examination there fore it is meaning less


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Jun 1, 2019 14:25:30   #
archie bunker wrote:
Such kind, benevolent, and tolerant thoughts.
Thank you bitter, h**eful, old hippy.


















I didn't used to be this way but the modern conservative movement began turning the world upside down
in the 1970's and k**led the new deal coalition and began peeling away the new deal like an onion layer by layer and it led to extreme polarization of American society and I'll admit im bitter at the loss 40 years of progress from 1933 to 1973 was wiped out in 20 years
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Jun 1, 2019 13:33:36   #
archie bunker wrote:
Such kind, benevolent, and tolerant thoughts.
Thank you bitter, h**eful, old hippy.







Its just the t***h




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Jun 1, 2019 13:30:16   #
Jakebrake wrote:
Oh come on Comrade Nicky, bulls**t, each and every word~





Conservatives don't like to pay taxes and look for ways to c***t and v**e for politicians who will cut their taxes
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Jun 1, 2019 13:25:57   #
nwtk2007 wrote:
New York and California, home of t*********r, same sex marriages, boys competing with girls, sodomy and the egg shell environment!






On the east coast they have libraries, museums. music halls. on the west coast we have legalized marijuana and same sex marriage. in the heart land they have sex with their farm animals and their relatives
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Jun 1, 2019 13:15:55   #
Retired builder wrote:
The Democrats don't give two s**ts about rural America or for that matter intercity problems. their focus is on power, wealth and a socialist/ Marxist/ c*******t society which would keep them in power. You are absolutely correct that they need to do something for this country other than pointless investigations and meaningless impeachment threats. You sound like an old school Democrat, who today would sound like a radical Republican which alienates you from all the crazies - keep going, your on the path to becoming a conservative which is a good thing because conservatives stand for all the things you'd like to see happen in rural America.
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Wing nuts like to live out in the boonies c***ting on their taxes and when the forest catches on fire and their home is in the path of the fire they yell for some one to send a hellicopter to drop water on their house. Of course they dont want to pay for it they want the tax payers to pay for it. The tax payers live in the cities and know the value of good government and view taxes as the price we pay to live in a civilized society
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Jun 1, 2019 13:05:43   #
archie bunker wrote:
Exacly! And they want everybody aligned with one party, or the other so they know who to destroy.
They don't realize that some, a bunch of us are just people who want to live our lives in peace without them up our asses.

And the red guys want our v**es, and the blue guys couldn't give two squirts of duck s**t if we're here, or not.






No we would like t live in peace with out knuckle d**ggers up our asses. Conservatives have never contributed to the progress of society all thay are good for is to stand in the road shouting STOP and that it end of history
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Jun 1, 2019 12:38:20   #
lindajoy wrote:
You quote from a book titled: False Religion~~That says it all~~😡

https://books.google.com/books?id=a15U43cqizcC&pg=PT2&lpg=PT2&dq=Religion+is+out+first+version+of+the+t***h+our+first+attempt+as+a+species+to+what+we+tried+when+we+didn%27t+know+anything,+we+didn%27t+know+we+lived+on+a+spherical+planet,+or+that+the+planet+revolved+around+the&source=bl&ots=tLTexYMbJe&sig=ACfU3U3myjtJUpXXw3p48OMAGtmRQ5y8vw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj24Y7CpMjiAhUQPa0KHRlhCNIQ6AEwBXoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=Religion%20is%20out%20first%20version%20of%20the%20t***h%20our%20first%20attempt%20as%20a%20species%20to%20what%20we%20tried%20when%20we%20didn't%20know%20anything%2C%20we%20didn't%20know%20we%20lived%20on%20a%20spherical%20planet%2C%20or%20that%20the%20planet%20revolved%20around%20the&f=false
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It is the t***h and as Dr Carl Sagan said Religion has become so ingrained in society " it seems no matter how much progress we make it seems we will never get rid of it. " In the Caribbean vodou in some places is as ingrained as Christianity in the US bible belt Sagan estimated there is possibly 2,500 different religions on this planet
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Jun 1, 2019 12:21:17   #
Zemirah wrote:
What you wrote reads very much like "mocking," nwtk, however, as you well know, only God can look into your heart.

No one has ever been able to disprove the t***h of the Bible. All scientific evidence, as well as archaeology
to this date has verified God's Word.

If you place no belief in or reliance on the Bible, what is your source through which you know the mind of God and what He is thinking??

God cares not only for "them," for His love includes you.

Solomon, whom God blessed with great wisdom saw that men cannot "fathom" what God is doing.

Ecclesiastes 3:11
He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men, yet they cannot fathom the work God has done from beginning to end.

Ecclesiastes 8:17
I saw every work of God, and that a man is unable to comprehend the work that is done under the sun. Despite his efforts to search it out, he cannot find its meaning; even if the wise man claims to know, he is unable to comprehend.


Yet, the Holy Spirit in the New Testament tells us that born-again believers have access to the mind of Jesus Christ.

1st Corinthians 2:15-16
The spiritual man judges all things, but he himself is not subject to anyone’s judgment. “For who has known the mind of the Lord, so as to instruct Him?” But we have the mind of Christ.
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"No one has ever been able to disprove the t***h of the Bible. All scientific evidence, as well as archaeology to this date has verified God's Word." This is riduclous; Adam and eve story has been disproved. In fact the first five books of the old testemant has been disproved by modern scientific archeology. combined with actually known history cities described as large cties acctually have been reveeale to be small viliages and time lines don't match, Science has proved the bible stories were fictional tales crafted to portry a moral message and are allegorical
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