microphor, maybe this link will help.. https://www.history.com/topics/middle-east/z*****m

Interesting article.. I've noticed a couple folks in here that seem to have an issue with Traditionalist Jews!.. Over and above "Reformed Jews"..

I could be wrong, been known to happen.. but seems like it's about the differences between traditional jews and reformed jews, kinda like some folks argue that there is a difference between a christian and an evangelical christian, the evangelist seems to lean more toward a traditional christianity verus a new type of christianity, one NOT of fire n brimstone.. This is more an observation.. I was raised in two faiths... My mom was a recovering irish catholic went non denominational, and my dad, converted to Judaism, when he married my step mom.. Oddly, I've learned quite a lot between the two..and my opinion on this is that Christianity is an Extension of Judaism...

There has been Soooo Much lost in the Massive amount of t***slations that the Bible has gone through over the last almost 3 millinium.. (I'm sure I will miss one) Sumarian, Aramaic, Hebrew.. Roman, Greek, Old English and American.. King James, Gideon's Bible.. Lots of t***slations, Lots of books removed from the bible..

Peter.. Well.. I find that highly amusing, given the FBI were with HIM and his attorneys in that room that he had said docs in.. They called him after going through what he had, and requested he put another lock on it, NOT only that, But that entire complex is guarded by Secret service!! He wasn't Hiding anything, and in fact the day they were indeed in that storage area Trump told them to go ahead and take the boxes, they opted out and just requested the Lock.. I'm amused that your spewing party line.. He did have the authority to declassify, bc he was still president when he left the white house on the 20th.. BEFORE Bitme's inauguration..

It also astounds me that anyone in this Great united states would still defend Biden.. which I'm sorry Peter but that sounds like party line spew also.. that is what ALL liberal media has said, but he wasn't hiding anything, Unlike Biden & His Drug Addled Son!!

Ok.. So.. we had a totally Un-necessary raid on President Trump's home..
With FBI and lights and press everywhere, while he was cooperating!!.. They were In his Mar A Lago home, While he wasn't home, they KNEW he wasn't there...They were In the Room where said docs were stored, they called him the next day to ask that he put an additional lock on said storage area..He told them they could take them there and then, they declined, so he told them He'd help in anyway he could.. He did, Soo Trump is not Home.. next thing happens is the aforementioned, he was raided for NO reason other than Politics!! Period.. A distraction! They wouldn't let his lawyers supervise.. I'm Bettin NONE of those FBI folks had security clearance to even LOOK at those docs, if they did look at, handle, or otherwise peruse said docs, they also Broke the law..

Same goes for Biden's attorneys.. They ALSO did not have security clearance to look or even handle those documents..

We have documents that H****r B***n had access to, y'all know he did..
We have Emails from H. Biden to his father and his business partners etc et al.. We had Biden's Personal lawyers perusing CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS~~ from as far back as Biden's Senate Years!!!

We had Pence.. his measly one classified document..

The Biggest difference.. is that ONLY the president of the United States has Full clearance to declassify anything he wanted to W/out a By your leave from his Minions..He was still President, until approx 11:30 am.. give or take half hour.. But there is also this nice little fact.. TRUMP did NOT pack his OWN boxes!! There is also a Memo, from Trump Declassifying docs including all the Russia Russia Russia h**x docs and evidence.. He Declassified that long before even Biden was in the white house.. I've seen the Memo.. As much as the left would have you believe there is a Process to declassify, I call Bulls**t on that too.. they only say that to TRY to make themselves either useful or self important.. He does NOT..Per the Constitution have to say S**t to ANYONE regarding docs he's declassifies, and as a matter of fact.. as soon as he reads a classified doc in front of press or outloud to anyone, it's automatically declassified..

Honestly I don't give a damn who wants to debunk this, like the liberals they are.. Have fun with that!!



The VP has NO such Rights!!
A Senator DAMN sure doesn't have the right!!

Yea yea.. I know, Obummer signed an "Executive order" allowing VP's to declassify.. I call Bulls**t!!.. An Executive order does absolutely ZERO as far as Law or Constitutionality!!.. In Order to change the constitution there has to be an amendment.. and 2/3 v**e of both houses..
Obama, Much Like O'Biden.. did NOT have the right to declassify.. Period Full Stop!!

Amen!!... The A****a that were just arrested, Guess what..they were ALL WHITE PRIVILEGED YOUTH, that came from money.. their parents have money, which Screams Capitalism!! But these I***t CHILDREN Are truly clueless, if they wanted to fight, they should have fought their parents first.. OR Maybe said parents could actually sit their kids down and explain the facts of life to them.. NOT!! What WERE these parents doing while their KIDS are out doin their Shenanigans??!! Hmmm..

NOT ONE Trump supporter, bombed a fed building, Bombed a Business..Bombed a Private Citizen??? Hmm Food for thought for the UBER SLOW in the room...

I Agree also, Let Jim Jordan do what he does best!!.. Much like DeSantis, let him do what he does best for Florida..

They are both young enough to persue a higher office later.. But we need BOTH these firebrands to do what they do Best.. Dig up the corruption and dispense with it!!

Good to hear you're improving!.. I usually take Alka Selzer severe cold/flu.. no hang over.. at least for me, I can't do things like nyquil.. I always feel drug out for a few Days with that stuff, and that even after drinking a shot of water to wash it down.. nasty tastin stuff.... I also have Mucenex.. good stuff too.. All I can say bout the set backs is please stay warm.. if you do go outside, bundle up.. sweating when outside and sick, Not good.. Losing a little weight not bad..

[quote=son of witless]Thanks. Day to day it changes. Yesterday I had a 101 fever. To day it's a raw throat, but the fever broke. All today one minute I feel great, the next minute I'm dying. A few of my close relatives have the same v***s. They tell it is a three weeker, and I'm in week two. It isn't c***d. Thank God we're in a warm up. I lost all of my resistance to cold.[/quote

I REALLY Hope you start feeling better, I understand how you feel with the up and down of feel decent or not..I get it!! I also know the feeling, the older I get, the less tolerant I am of extreme temps.. I found I have a comfort window of about 70'ish.. At most 80 F

As far as the Above "Meme" : No Kiddin' Wow!!... Though it's not quite lookin "springy".. Still kinda grey in my neck of the woods.. but yea.. it did try to k**l us not more than a week ago! Woke up to single digits 9F... Now I have a heat wave of about 30F! Honestly! WE really need to have a semi sense of humor, Yes, even over the tragedy.. If we all were to fall into despair that would NOT be good!! It would be way worse without some modicum of humor.. Hugss y'all Stay warm and dry! Please don't go out unless you have to! Be careful if ya do, Black Ice is Nasty, and ya don't know your on it til it's almost too late!..
One thing I've noticed having had winters in several different states of our fine union.. Some folks forget how to drive in the winter and when the power goes out.. they forget who goes first, especially for an 8 way stop.. helpful hint: Whoever is bigger than YOU goes first!.. Just sayin!!

Ugh.. I really hope you're feeling better! Sucks being sick!

Thank you!!

To those that don't celebrate Christmas!~Happy Holidays!! May there be more Peace in the coming year! Health, Happiness & Safety! ♥

Well, first off, I was kinda dismayed at Trump's digs at DeSantis!..I was like why is he attacking someone so much like him in a lot of ways..AND The ego thing sounded plausible!..Kinda like when he referred to DeSantis as "DeSantimonious" My first thought on that dig was "WOW!!.. He should talk about sanctimony!!

I don't mean to be derogatory, towards either man.. But DeSantis, kinda reminds me of Trump's Mini Me w/out all the baggage and BS... However, I don't think DeSantis has enough of both Savvy and Stones to demand of other countries PAY their DEBT..The UN and NATO, combined could solve our national debt issue! It's Owed to US!, Should be Paid, according to THEIR contractual obligations!.. I can't even estimate the amount of Rent on the UN building that is being paid for by US Truly.. Ron DeSantis has done a stellar job in Florida, but I'm really not sure how he'd handle an entire nation and foreign policy!

Thank You

Thank You Ginny!

I guess that's good now a days... But how much do you know about the origins of Planned Parenthood.. Let me enlighten you with a few links regarding it's founder Margaret Sanger.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/21/nyregion/planned-parenthood-margaret-sanger-eugenics.html

https://womanisrational.uchicago.edu/2022/09/21/margaret-sanger-the-duality-of-a-ambitious-feminist-and-r****t-eugenicist/

https://www.africanamerica.org/topic/the-negro-project-margaret-sangers-eugenic-plan-for-black-americans

That should do it.. provided you read them...

Here's just some of her quotes:

1. "But for my view, I believe that there should be no more babies."
-- Interview with John Parsons, 1947

2. "The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to k**l it."
-- Woman and the New Race, Chapter 5, "The Wickedness of Creating Large Families." (1920) http://www.bartleby.com/1013/

3. "We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population..."
-- Letter to Dr. Clarence J. Gamble, December 10, 1939, p. 2
https://libex.smith.edu/omeka/...

4. “I accepted an invitation to talk to the women's branch of the Ku Klux Klan... I was escorted to the platform, was introduced, and began to speak...In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose. A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered.”
-- Margaret Sanger, An Autobiography, published in 1938, p. 366

5. “I think the greatest sin in the world is bringing children into the world, that have disease from their parents, that have no chance in the world to be a human being practically... Delinquents, prisoners, all sorts of things just marked when they’re born. That to me is the greatest sin—that people can—can commit.”
-- Interview with journalist Mike Wallace, 1957

6. “The most serious evil of our times is that of encouraging the bringing into the world of large families. The most immoral practice of the day is breeding too many children..."
-- Sanger, Margaret. Woman and the New Race (1920). Chapter 5: The Wickedness of Creating Large Families. http://www.bartleby.com/1013/5...

7. “Eugenics without birth control seems to us a house builded [sic] upon the sands. It is at the mercy of the rising stream of the unfit.”
-- Sanger, Margaret. (1919) Birth Control and Racial Betterment. The Birth Control Review.

8. “As an advocate of birth control, I wish to take advantage of the present opportunity to point out that the unbalance between the birth rate of the ‘unfit’ and the ‘fit,’ admittedly the greatest present menace to civilization, can never be rectified by the inauguration of a cradle competition between these two classes.”
-- Sanger, Margaret. (1921) The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda. The Birth Control Review, p. 5. http://birthcontrolreview.net/...

9. “The most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective.”
-- Sanger, Margaret. (1921) The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda, Birth Control Review, p. 5
https://www.nyu.edu/projects/s...

10. "No more children should be born when the parents, though healthy themselves, find that their children are physically or mentally defective.”
-- Sanger, Margaret. (1918) When Should A Woman Avoid Having Children? Birth Control Review, Nov. 1918, 6-7, Margaret Sanger Microfilm, S70:807.
https://www.nyu.edu/projects/s...

11. “A marriage license shall in itself give husband and wife only the right to a common household and not the right to parenthood."
-- Margaret Sanger, "America Needs a Code for Babies," Article 3, 27 Mar 1934.
https://www.nyu.edu/projects/s...

12. "No woman shall have the legal right to bear a child, and no man shall have the right to become a father, without a permit for parenthood."
-- Margaret Sanger, "America Needs a Code for Babies," Article 4, March 27, 1934.

13. "Permits for parenthood shall be issued upon application by city, county, or state authorities to married couples, providing they are financially able to support the expected child, have the qualifications needed for proper rearing of the child, have no t***smissible diseases, and, on the woman’s part, no medical indication that maternity is likely to result in death or permanent injury to health."
-- Margaret Sanger, "America Needs a Code for Babies," Article 5, March 27, 1934.

14. "No permit for parenthood shall be valid for more than one birth..."
-- Margaret Sanger, "America Needs a Code for Babies," Article 6, March 27, 1934.

15. "Apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is tainted, or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be t***smitted to offspring."
-- Sanger, Margaret. “My Way to Peace,” Jan. 17, 1932. Margaret Sanger Papers, Library of Congress 130:198. https://www.nyu.edu/projects/s...

16. "... these two words [birth control] sum up our whole philosophy... It means the release and cultivation of the better elements in our society, and the gradual suppression, elimination and eventual extinction, of defective stocks -- those human weeds which threaten the blooming of the finest flowers of American civilization."
-- Margaret Sanger, "High Lights in the History of Birth Control," Oct 1923.
https://www.nyu.edu/projects/s...

17. "Organized charity itself is the symptom of a malignant social disease..."
-- Sanger, Margaret (1922). The Pivot of Civilization.

18. "My own position is that the Catholic doctrine is illogical, not in accord with science, and definitely against social welfare and race improvement."
-- Margaret Sanger, "The Pope's Position on Birth Control," Jan. 27, 1932.
https://www.nyu.edu/projects/s...

19. “All of our problems are the result of overbreeding among the working class... Knowledge of birth control is essentially moral. Its general, though prudent, practice must lead to a higher individuality and ultimately to a cleaner race.”
-- Margaret Sanger, "Morality and Birth Control," Feb-Mar 1918.
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/sa...

20. “Feeble-mindedness perpetuates itself from the ranks of those who are blandly indifferent to their racial responsibilities. And it is largely this type of humanity we are now drawing upon to populate our world for the generations to come. In this orgy of multiplying and replenishing the earth, this type is pari passu multiplying and perpetuating those direst evils in which we must, if civilization is to survive, extirpate by the very roots.”
-- Margaret Sanger, The Pivot of Civilization, 1922
https://www.scribd.com/documen...

21. “Birth control itself, often denounced as a violation of natural law, is nothing more or less than the facilitation of the process of weeding out the unfit, of preventing the birth of defectives or of those who will become defectives… If we are to make racial progress, this development of womanhood must precede motherhood in every individual woman.” -- “Woman and the New Race,” 1920

It's My hope that Planned Parenthood, has completely disavowed Margaret Sanger, Because SHE Was one sick, twisted & r****t individual! Scary to think that Hitler actually took a page outta her book.. Since she came Before Hitler!.. Hitler took his lead from her and FDR.. Interesting history... But also a scary and horrifying story.. Although, the other disturbing thing about Planned Parenthood, is that most of their facilities are in Urban Sprawl and poor neighborhoods of mostly black and brown folks!..

All I'm sayin is there has Got to be a better way, A Better organization!! Rather than one that was born out of r****m!.. Maybe folks should stop and take a look at this.. their ONLY redeeming quality would be if they disavowed Margaret Sanger entirely... But not even sure that would remove the stain from PP. But it's noble of you to donate, if your true vision is having a safe place for women to go. It would be nice if there were other organizations that tended to women's health, Unless that's what you want, an on demand a******n factory.. Which doesn't even come close to "Legal, Safe & Rare" "Rare" Being Life of the mother, Molestation or Rape!

Most of the links that I posted seem to be from a more liberal slant. Honestly though, I do hope you read up on the above links.. I'd be interested in your thoughts.. None of my post, in our thread here is meant to be sarcastic or snarky.. Just is what it is.