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Dec 17, 2016 06:53:10   #
Richard94611 wrote:
A lot of you like to make fun of California as "the land of the dfruits and nuts," not realizing that California supplies about half of this country's food, and has changed the intellectual landscape with technological advances, including the iPhone and the computer you may be using to read this. I don't know if any of you heard or read the speech given by Governor Jerry Brown to the American Geophysical Union this past Wednesday, but you might be interested in it because it forshadows what Trump will encounter from the scientific community if he tries to deny science, including c*****e c****e. Because Brownj is Governor, what he has to say is important. It comes from the leader of the state with the largest GDP in the United States (in 2015, Texas' GDP was next, with 1.64 trillion versus California's approximately 2.2 trillion). If California were a country, it would be similar in economic clout to France. The saying goes that where California is today in its advances, the rest of the country will be in ten years.

Just to let you know a few brief facts before you read the summary, Brown has vowed to protect science and scientists, universities, and research laboratories with everything the State of California can muster, including an army of lawyers. He commented that if the accumulation of scientific data stops because federal satellites are turned off, California will launch its own satellites. California already has dozens of agreements with other states and countries, and will continue to promote and honor these no matter what the federal govenment does.

I am sure many readers in this forum will pooh-pooh all this, but don't worry. California will continue to improve your future with all kinds of information and technical innovation. We look forward to selling it to you.

Here is a summary of what Jerry Brown had to say:


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Contact: Governor's Press Office
Wednesday, December 14, 2016 (916) 445-4571
Governor Brown to Climate Scientists: "We Will Persevere"

SAN FRANCISCO – Rallying thousands of scientists at one of the largest international gatherings of its kind, Governor Edmund G. Brown Jr. today called on the scientific community – the “t***h-tellers” and “t***h seekers” – to mobilize for the climate fight.

“The time has never been more urgent or your work never more important. The climate is changing, temperatures are rising, oceans are becoming more acidified, habitats are under stress – the world is facing tremendous danger,” said Governor Brown at the American Geophysical Union’s annual fall meeting in San Francisco. “It’ll be up to you as t***h-tellers, t***h seekers to mobilize all your efforts to fight back. We’ve got a lot of firepower. We’ve got the scientists, we’ve got the universities, we have the national labs and we have the political clout and sophistication for the battle – and we will persevere. Have no doubt about that.”

“We will pursue a path of collaboration and bold political advancement – wh**ever they do in Washington – and eventually the t***h will prevail,” Governor Brown continued. “This is not a battle of one day or one e******n. This is a long-term slog into the future and you are there, the foot soldiers of change and understanding and scientific collaboration.”

Governor Brown’s remarks follow yesterday’s action to prevent further coastal oil and gas drilling, reduce ocean acidity and boost renewable energy development in California. In recent weeks, Governor Brown issued a joint release with the governors of Oregon and Washington and the premier of British Columbia reaffirming their commitment to climate action at the close of COP22. The Governor also announced 29 new members to the Under2 Coalition, an international climate pact formed by California and Baden-Württemberg, Germany among cities, states and countries to limit the increase in global average temperature to below 2 degrees Celsius, the level of potentially catastrophic consequences. A total of 165 jurisdictions have now joined the coalition representing more than a billion people and $25.7 trillion in combined GDP – more than one-third of the global economy.

California is playing a world-leading role in setting aggressive climate goals, broadening collaboration among subnational leaders and taking action to reduce climate pollutants.

In September, California took bold action to advance its climate goals, establishing the most ambitious greenhouse gas emission reduction targets in North America and the nation's toughest restrictions on destructive super pollutants. The Governor also signed legislation that directs cap-and-trade funds to greenhouse gas reducing programs which benefit disadvantaged communities, support clean t***sportation and protect natural ecosystems.

This action builds on landmark legislation the Governor signed in October 2015 to generate half of the state's electricity from renewable sources by 2030 and double the rate of energy efficiency savings in California buildings. Governor Brown has also committed to reducing today's petroleum use in cars and trucks by up to 50 percent within the next 15 years; make heating fuels cleaner; and manage farm and rangelands, forests and wetlands so they can store carbon.

Over the past year and a half, the Governor has traveled to the United Nations headquarters in New York, the United Nations C*****e C****e Conference in Paris, France, the Vatican in Italy and the Climate Summit of the Americas in Toronto, Canada to call on other leaders to join California in the fight against c*****e c****e. Governor Brown also joined an unprecedented alliance of heads of state, city and state leaders – convened by the World Bank Group and International Monetary Fund – to urge countries and companies around the globe to put a price on carbon.

These efforts to broaden collaboration among subnational leaders build on a number of other international c*****e c****e agreements with leaders from the Czech Republic, the Netherlands, Mexico, China, North America, Japan, Israel, Peru and Chile and Governor Brown's efforts to gather hundreds of world-renowned researchers and scientists around a groundbreaking call to action – called the consensus statement – which t***slates key scientific climate findings from disparate fields into one unified document.

The impacts of c*****e c****e are already being felt in California and will disproportionately impact the state's most vulnerable populations.

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Although I disagree, almost categorically, with the political and social view of California and its governor, this piece spells out very nicely how a panicked reaction to Trump can be the catalyst for returning state and federal gov'ts to their proper relationship. What sweet irony!!!
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Dec 11, 2016 13:07:38   #
PoppaGringo wrote:
Liberals are continuing to illustrate what sore losers they truly are. They are not only unwilling to accept the outcome of the e******n, they want to steal victory away from Donald Trump – and by extension, the American people.

Harvard law professor and Liberal activist, Larry Lessig just announced he is joining forces with a California law firm to provide “free and confidential” legal services to any E*******l College member who will v**e AGAINST President-Elect Donald Trump in violation of their state law. Lessig has ties to George Soros!

Yep, you read that right. A well-educated licensed attorney is urging Americans to break the law. AND he is willing to fight the legal woes they will be forced to endure after committing this unpatriotic act, by giving them pro bono (free) legal aid.

Larry Lessig once ran for president himself – but you probably missed his failure of a campaign, which didn’t make it past the primaries. Even Jill Stein may have fared better at the b****t box than the Harvard professor.

Lessig also has extensive ties to open border advocate, George Soros, Breitbart notes. The anti-Trump activist sits on several boards for groups which are financed by Soros.

Lessig’s E*******l College shenanigan is being called the “E*****rs Trust.” This final effort to prevent a duly elected president to take office was created after a petition drive by MoveOn.org.

“It makes no sense to be e*****r number five who comes out against Trump. But it might make sense to be e*****r 38,” Lessig said.

The Harvard professor also said the E*****rs Trust will give an anonymous platform to all e*****rs so they can strategize about how best to prevent the President-Elect from taking the oath of office. In addition, Lessig said the platform could help the e*****rs gauge whether or not they have garnered the amount of support necessary to steal the presidency from Donald Trump.

“With their permission, the e*****rs can allow others to know that they are considering a v**e of conscience. But that information will not include either their identity or their state,” Lessig also said. “Our primary objective is to provide a safe and confidential legal context in which e*****rs can seek advice and support, and depending on the facts, an opportunity to litigate to defend their freedom.”

MoveOn.org is funded by George Soros. The far-left Liberal organization is pushing to have the E*******l College abolished entirely.

If that happens, fellow patriots, New York and California will be able to handpick every future president who enters the Oval Office! Texas would be the only state with enough of a population to launch a valiant fight against the two Liberal states but would need the overwhelming, nearly 100 percent support, of all remaining states, to pull off an upset.
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Bribery and extortion..........should be a legal basis for something,,
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Dec 11, 2016 11:53:04   #
Rivers wrote:
The CIA and the FBI appear to be divided in their assessment of whether Russia intervened in the 2016 e******n to help Republican Donald Trump clinch the White House, according to a report. The Central Intelligence Agency has concluded that Russia was actively trying to help elect Trump as opposed to just “meddling with” the e******n process, according to The Washington Post.

During a closed-door briefing at the Senate Intelligence Committee early this month, the spy agency presented its assessment of Russia’s role in the e******n. Citing unnamed US officials briefed on the matter, The Post said individuals connected to Moscow had provided thousands of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and others to WikiLeaks.

The hacked emails were a regular source of embarrassment to the campaign of Democrat Hillary Clinton during the p**********l race.

“Russia’s goal here was to favor one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected,” said a senior US official briefed on the intelligence presentation made to key senators. “That’s the consensus view.” In a secure meeting room under the Capitol last week, however, a senior FBI counterintelligence official told lawmakers that the agency and the bureau were not on the same page regarding Russia’s alleged intervention. The FBI official’s remarks to the lawmakers in the House Intelligence Committee, who had a classified letter written by the senators summing up the secret CIA assessment, were “fuzzy” and “ambiguous,” The Post said. The divergent messages from the CIA and the FBI have angered many lawmakers who are demanding answers about the Kremlin’s alleged role in the p**********l race and its possible motives.

The clamor from Congress prompted the White House to announce Friday that President Barack Obama had ordered a full review of Russia’s cyber attacks during the p**********l campaign. Obama wants the review to be completed before he leaves office in January. Meanwhile, Trump’s t***sition team slammed the CIA on Friday over its assessment of Russian espionage operations targeting the 2016 race.

"These are the same people that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction," the t***sition said in a statement on Friday. "The e******n ended a long time ago in one of the biggest E*******l College victories in history. It's now time to move on and 'Make America Great Again.'"

The Clinton campaign has blamed FBI Director James Comey for the candidate’s bruising loss to Trump as the bureau dropped a bombshell letter days before the e******n on the discovery of new emails potentially related to an investigation into Clinton’s email practices.
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Notice how outraged progressives never consider the fact that, even if the hacks did come from Russians, the decay and filth of Hillary's campaign people is what made the revelations news worthy. The average American citizen is not nearly as stupid as the politicians and "journalists" hope they are. It is their arrogance and disdain for the people that is causing the disempowerment of the democrat party and they resolutely refuse to see it.
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Dec 9, 2016 08:22:20   #
Nuclearian wrote:
After failing to take the White House, a place she felt she deserved, Hillary Clinton has lost out on another honor that was supposed to be hers. Time Magazine has named Donald Trump “The Person of The Year.” And while the President-elect was named the most influential person of 2016, you wouldn’t know it by the accompanying article. Left-leaning Time slams Trump as a “huckster” and a “demagogue,” reserving all of the praise for Hillary who they call “an American Moses.”

Time loves Hillary Clinton so much and it k**ls them that she lost the e******n. It’s surprising that they didn’t go ahead and name her POTY anyway, but they more than made up for it in her profile. The magazine excuses all of Hillary’s failings, blaming a media that hasn’t been fair to her. All of this culminates with this puke-inducing assessment:

In her 1969 commencement address to her class at Wellesley College, Clinton called politics “the art of making what appears to be impossible possible.” In this, she has succeeded. Like an American Moses, she was an imperfect prophet, leading women to the edge of the Promised Land. Now it’s up to another woman to enter it.

Well, they are kind of right about Hillary making the impossible possible. No one gave Donald Trump a snowball’s chance in Hell of winning the presidency, but thanks to Hillary’s terrible campaign and overall scumminess, he’s the President-elect.

As for the Moses thing? Not so much. Moses led the Israelites out of s***ery in Egypt to the Promised Land. Along the way, he escaped the Pharaoh’s army by parting the Red Sea. In order for this to be an appropriate analogy, Moses would have led the Israelites from the Promised Land into bondage in Egypt. Also, there would have been no roadblocks along the way and Moses would still have managed to find a way to screw it up.

The only similarities between Moses and Hillary are that they are both old and have wandered around aimlessly for 40 years.

Had Hillary won the presidency, there would have been another similarity: she would have unleashed a wave of plagues across the land. Instead of water into blood, frogs, lice, flies, disease, boils, hail of fire, locusts, darkness, and infant death, Hillary would have brought liberalism, progressivism, socialism, f*****m, cronyism, hypocrisy, corruption, deceit, rape, and bulls**t raining from the sky. We would have envied Egypt.

I think maybe Jews and Christians will take offense at Time Magazine’s comparison as well as their claim that Moses was “an imperfect prophet.” He did what he said he was going to do and got things done. Hillary Clinton has never kept her word on anything and in decades of “public service” she has accomplished absolutely nothing.

Hillary is not on the side of the righteous. She is not a leader. Considering the contempt she has for most people in this country, it’s fair to say she isn’t even an American. Calling her an American Moses is about as far off as you can get.
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Yup! She's leading "her" people somewhere, all right.......but.........Time has identified her with the wrong Old Testament leader........the name that applies here is Balaam!!
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Dec 6, 2016 06:34:44   #
Nickolai wrote:
Yes, Donald Trump’s politics are incoherent. But those who surround him know just what they want, and his lack of clarity enhances their power. To understand what is coming, we need to understand who they are. I know all too well, because I have spent the past 15 years fighting them.
Trump’s climate denial is just one of the forces that point towards war

Over this time, I have watched as tobacco, coal, oil, chemicals and biotech companies have poured billions of dollars into an international misinformation machine composed of thinktanks, bloggers and f**e citizens’ groups. Its purpose is to portray the interests of billionaires as the interests of the common people, to wage war against trade unions and beat down attempts to regulate business and tax the very rich. Now the people who helped run this machine are shaping the government.
I first encountered the machine when writing about c*****e c****e. The fury and loathing directed at climate scientists and campaigners seemed incomprehensible until I realised they were f**e: the hatred had been paid for. The bloggers and institutes whipping up this anger were funded by oil and coal companies.
Among those I clashed with was Myron Ebell of the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI). The CEI calls itself a thinktank, but looks to me like a corporate lobbying group. It is not t***sparent about its funding, but we now know it has received $2m from ExxonMobil, more than $4m from a group called the Donors Trust (which represents various corporations and billionaires), $800,000 from groups set up by the tycoons Charles and David Koch, and substantial sums from coal, tobacco and pharmaceutical companies.
For years, Ebell and the CEI have attacked efforts to limit c*****e c****e, through lobbying, lawsuits and campaigns. An advertisement released by the institute had the punchline “Carbon dioxide: they call it pollution. We call it life.”
It has sought to eliminate funding for environmental education, lobbied against the Endangered Species Act, harried climate scientists and campaigned in favour of mountaintop removal by coal companies. In 2004, Ebell sent a memo to one of George W Bush’s staffers calling for the head of the Environmental Protection Agency to be sacked. Where is Ebell now? Oh – leading Trump’s t***sition team for the Environmental Protection Agency.

Trump's conflicts of interest: a visual guide

Charles and David Koch – who for years have funded extreme pro-corporate politics – might not have been enthusiasts for Trump’s candidacy, but their people were all over his campaign. Until June, Trump’s campaign manager was Corey Lewandowski, who like other members of Trump’s team came from a group called Americans for Prosperity (AFP).
This purports to be a grassroots campaign, but it was founded and funded by the Koch brothers. It set up the first Tea Party Facebook page and organized the first Tea Party events. With a budget of hundreds of millions of dollars, AFP has campaigned ferociously on issues that coincide with the Koch brothers’ commercial interests in oil, gas, minerals, timber and chemicals.

In Michigan, it helped force through the “right to work bill”, in pursuit of what AFP’s local director called “taking the unions out at the knees”. It has campaigned nationwide against action on c*****e c****e. It has poured hundreds of millions of dollars into unseating the politicians who won’t do its bidding and replacing them with those who will.
I could fill this newspaper with the names of Trump staffers who have emerged from such groups: people such as Doug Domenech, from the Texas Public Policy Foundation, funded among others by the Koch brothers, Exxon and the Donors Trust; Barry Bennett, whose Alliance for America’s Future (now called One Nation) refused to disclose its donors when challenged; and Thomas Pyle, president of the American Energy Alliance, funded by Exxon and others. This is to say nothing of Trump’s own crashing conflicts of interest. Trump promised to “drain the swamp” of the lobbyists and corporate stooges working in Washington. But it looks as if the only swamps he’ll drain will be real ones, as his team launches its war on the natural world.


How far is too far for Donald Trump?
Understandably, there has been plenty of coverage of the r****ts and w***e s*********ts empowered by Trump’s victory. But, gruesome as they are, they’re peripheral to the policies his team will develop. It’s almost comforting, though, to focus on them, for at least we know who they are and what they stand for. By contrast, to penetrate the corporate misinformation machine is to enter a world of mirrors. Spend too long trying to understand it, and the hyporeality vortex will inflict serious damage on your state of mind.

Don’t imagine that other parts of the world are immune. Corporate-funded thinktanks and f**e grassroots groups are now everywhere. The f**e news we should be worried about is not stories invented by Macedonian teenagers about Hillary Clinton selling arms to Islamic State, but the constant feed of confected scares about unions, tax and regulation drummed up by groups that won’t reveal their interests.
The less t***sparent they are, the more airtime they receive. The organization T***sperity runs an annual survey of think tanks. This year’s survey reveals that in the UK only four think tanks – the Adam Smith Institute, Centre for Policy Studies, Institute of Economic Affairs and Policy Exchange – “still consider it acceptable to take money from hidden hands behind closed doors”. And these are the ones that are all over the media.

When the Institute of Economic Affairs, as it so often does, appears on the BBC to argue against regulating tobacco, shouldn’t we be told that it has been funded by tobacco companies since 1963? There’s a similar pattern in the US: the most vocal groups tend to be the most opaque.
As usual, the left and centre (myself included) are beating ourselves up about where we went wrong. There are plenty of answers, but one of them is that we have simply been outspent. Not by a little, but by orders of magnitude. A few billion dollars spent on persuasion buys you all the politics you want. Genuine campaigners, working in their free time, simply cannot match a professional network staffed by thousands of well-paid, unscrupulous people.
You cannot confront a power until you know what it is. Our first task in this struggle is to understand what we face. Only then can we work out what to do.
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This BS rant is simply the other side of the coin............the premise for both arguments is thinking the pagan worship we call government can free us from ens***ement when that IS the ens***ement!!
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Dec 5, 2016 07:25:00   #
Pennylynn wrote:
Hours after a Green Party-backed campaign dropped its case in state courts they announce a change to their strategy to force a statewide recount of Pennsylvania's Nov. 8 p**********l e******n, won by Republican Donald Trump, and said late Saturday night that it will seek help in the federal courts, rather than the state courts. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/04/green-party-switches-strategy-in-pennsylvania-recount.html

The recount in the battleground state could potentially cost taxpayers upwards of $12 million, according to Michigan Republican Party leaders. http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/11/30/jill-stein-michigan-e******n-recount-could-cost-taxpayers-12-million
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The Feds have no standing to intervene in any state's e******n process..........but........because we have been conditioned to tolerate the abuses of the Administrative State........here we go again! It is now the ninth inning; are people really capable of self government? I remain doubtful.
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Nov 24, 2016 08:42:13   #
slatten49 wrote:
Five proofs of evolution

In this article, we look at five simple examples which support the Theory of Evolution

by Richard Peacock

1. The universal genetic code. All cells on Earth, from our white blood cells, to simple bacteria, to cells in the leaves of trees, are capable of reading any piece of DNA from any life form on Earth. This is very strong evidence for a common ancestor from which all life descended.

2. The fossil record. The fossil record shows that the simplest fossils will be found in the oldest rocks, and it can also show a smooth and gradual t***sition from one form of life to another.

3. Genetic commonalities. Human beings have approximately 96% of genes in common with chimpanzees, about 90% of genes in common with cats, 80% with cows, 75% with mice, and so on. This does not prove that we evolved from chimpanzees or cats, though, only that we shared a common ancestor in the past. And the amount of difference between our genomes corresponds to how long ago our genetic lines diverged.

4. Common traits in embryos. Humans, dogs, snakes, fish, monkeys, eels (and many more life forms) are all considered "chordates" because we belong to the phylum Chordata. One of the features of this phylum is that, as embryos, all these life forms have gill slits, tails, and specific anatomical structures involving the spine. For humans (and other non-fish) the gill slits reform into the bones of the ear and jaw at a later stage in development. But, initially, all chordate embryos strongly resemble each other.

In fact, pig embryos are often dissected in biology classes because of how similar they look to human embryos. These common characteristics could only be possible if all members of the phylum Chordata descended from a common ancestor.

5. Bacterial resistance to antibiotics. Bacteria colonies can only build up a resistance to antibiotics through evolution. It is important to note that in every colony of bacteria, there are a tiny few individuals which are naturally resistant to certain antibiotics. This is because of the random nature of mutations.

When an antibiotic is applied, the initial innoculation will k**l most bacteria, leaving behind only those few cells which happen to have the mutations necessary to resist the antibiotics. In subsequent generations, the resistant bacteria reproduce, forming a new colony where every member is resistant to the antibiotic. This is natural se******n in action. The antibiotic is "selecting" for organisms which are resistant, and k*****g any that are not.

References: National Geographic - Gene Study
Wikipedia - Chordate
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Google....'evidenceofevolution' This article is the 6th on the listing of sites, if you're seeking evidence. Each will believe as they choose.
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Yup............and............genes come from?..............and..........semi-autonomous life form (cells) agree to assemble themselves into various shapes and functionalities at their direction because?????..
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Nov 22, 2016 07:06:09   #
lpnmajor wrote:
There has been jihad declared in America, a jihad against Americans - not declared by Muslims, but by other Americans. Yes, Americans against other Americans, sort of like the Civil War of the 1860's. The theory has always been that the country selects a new President, then everyone gets on board and accepts this reality, and work together on American interests. That "theory" has been disproved ever since Washington was President.

Centuries ago, active opposition to a President was present, with sometimes violent protests. Full page newspaper ads, flyers, rumor mongering, etc., were the tools of the day. With the advent of the internet/social media and multi media resources, more and more people join opposition groups to sitting Presidents. One can easily see the numbers of opposition grow with the growth of electronic media. By "opposition", I am not only referring to the opposing party or elected officials, but also the non governmental citizen. With the e******n of Obama, the multi media phenomenon has made the opposition front and center in our awareness. Everything is "on the news", available by satellite, cable or internet provider. That's why we see Senate leaders declare "our only job, is to see this is a one term President", letting everyone know up front, that this body intends to oppose the new President as a priority. We see and hear a Congressional member yell "liar!", during a SOTU address. We've seen countless public declarations of disgust, derision, ridicule and vitriol, vented by sitting politicians - against their own President. We've seen the statement "he's not MY President" voiced publicly - and all of this has become normal and acceptable behavior.

Now, the shoe is on the other foot, and the same people making their opposition to Obama up front and center, are dismayed to see people opposed to THIER President do the same. Why the dismay? This is now normal behavior and what was acceptable for them, must also be acceptable for others. What was once low key, behind the scenes opposition, is now front page news, twitter fodder, facebook comments and fills the bandwidth allotment of all other social media as well. Video blogs, pod casts, radio shows, news outlets and other media content, have been dedicated to opposing a sitting President, spreading f**e "news", rumor and speculation, with a few facts thrown in as stage props. With Obama's Presidency, it became normal to defy the e******n results, claim v***r f***d and other malfeasance, publicly declare that he is not one's President and for elected officials to actively seek to undermine the Presidency and make public statements to that effect. Why would anyone think this would be any different now?

Opposition is no longer directed at a specific President alone, or the party in power, but to every citizen that supports them. It has become personal. Attacking each other is now normal and acceptable behavior. There are no visible consequences for what we say on social media sites, as any reprisal will be limited to words, however, the non visible consequences are there and just as real, as it shapes the perception of the whole Nation. I have noticed that even here on OPP, words that were once banned are now acceptable. Vitriol is normal, crude language is not crude anymore, r****m has lost it's definition and radicalism has become main stream. Declaring holy war against liberals, for their stance on a******n, for instance - is a jihad. Opposition groups name their own leaders and owe their allegiance to them or their cause, NOT to the sitting President and this in now normal and acceptable. It isn't going to change now, it will only grow worse, because we've found a new voice, OURS - and we're yelling at each other, telling each other how misguided, stupid and non patriotic we are. Opposing a sitting President is accepted - and expected. Now, those that opposed Obama, will see how it feels - because the shoe is on the other foot now.
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The digital age has accelerated our seeming need for tribalism and intensified the desire for the perfect chief.
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Nov 20, 2016 08:02:45   #
Ooph wrote:
What was actually found in that Alaskan stream was the future of America: deadlocked in instinctual bitter rivalry. As blind and senseless and wasteful as this battle in the wild. But neither one of those great beasts thought so. It was something they had to do. Nature said so. Just like Politics today does. H**e and look to destroy the other party--in a two-party system that has kept America both strong and exceptional by working together. True concern for the fate of this country seems to be of no concern by either party. Neither, despite protestations, are patriots of this Republic. Most are just acting like petty and bitter minions of their own egos. The Tea Party stance of "no compromise" is the same as saying "no USA." A president using executive privilege to get his way is the same. Isn't it clear this attitude puts us on the "eve of destruction"? Wake the hell up! The ideal and actuality of Liberty will be lost to the world if we do not stop being so d******e. Every time anyone here attacks another blogger just for an assumed party affiliation or even their ideas, refusing to dialogue, America nears the precipice.

I think that many do not want to keep up this instinctual, primal, attack on their political opponents. I feel many are truly tired of butting heads without resolutions. But who goes first? Should I l be first to let my guard down and be civil and engaged just to be eventually insulted, made a fool? The defensive strategy is to wait for a possible opening by the other for a respectful conversation. We each need to get far bigger than that if we want this nation to survive. The great thrill at totally humiliating your opposition, followed by wh**ever tribe slapping your back, is hard to give up. It has been the unwritten rule that any crack in complete loyalty means you are a t*****r or a suspicious character, no longer to be trusted. Very had to lose that camaraderie. Family to outcast is devastating. But too much is at risk for our country and the world not to take that risk. Drop the ad hominem. Lend an ear. Be gracious. Cease the assumptions. Earnestly seek resolution. Try to find the common ground in the love and promotion of liberty. I tell you, we are teetering on the edge and the least bit of weight could send us crashing down.

We demonize each other at the enormous risk of sending our country, bsy those actions, to hell.
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I think it was Jefferson who said, during his farewell address, to beware the rise of fractionalism in politics.........that it would doom representative republicanism.
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Nov 19, 2016 07:40:42   #
Great response, Blade
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Nov 19, 2016 07:33:46   #
Glaucon wrote:
In 1787, Ben Franklin said that our founding fathers had given us our republic if we were able to keep it. We decided not to keep it when we elected Donald Little Hands..
Kiss our democracy good by and R.I.P. Our democracy lasted 229 years.

John Adams said, " Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."


A republic and a democracy are not at at all the same thing. The original states would not sign on to a democracy, they called it mob rule, this the need for the republic.
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Nov 16, 2016 06:45:43   #
pafret wrote:
Obama didn't get the message, no one cares if he is "fired up"; to us he is just fired. His hand picked successor who was the standard bearer for his policies was rejected. This was a total repudiation of him, his policies and the corruption that he and Hillary eng****red.


He'll never leave the public arena. This movement started in the late 1800's and this narcissistic nightmare will plague this society regardless of e******ns or laws. He already has all the electronic infrastructure he needs and so-called journalists will pander to him out of simple self preservation.
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Nov 8, 2016 07:19:17   #
tommymore wrote:
The Fundamentalist Christians of the 70s created the unbridgeable rift between parties and laid the groundwork for other fundamentalist, like ISIS, to find an outlet. They made religious differences political. America was reduced from its stature as the exemplar of democracy to a petty and mean-spirited chaos of bitter rivalries. The government slowly ground to a halt when Republicans had control. The most Do-nothing group ever in its history, responsible for 2 shutdowns that cost billions of dollars, and the lowest popularity rating ever. And they continue, promising to eviscerate SCOTUS and thus the Constitution. The whole world is now leaning "Tea Party," that is i***tic extremism and non-cooperation that will eventually lead to many totalitarian states and the end of America. Never mind the morons calling for secession; the worst is already done. Trump and his ilk have ended this Republic. There will be revolution, by the instigation of the Right, the so-called "patriots" that will reduce this country to ashes and make us lower than a Third World nation, ripe for takeover.
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You couldn't be more wrong. Have you never studied history at all?
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Nov 5, 2016 07:41:55   #
Rivers wrote:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/obama-loses-fayetteville-goes-off-audience-nc-rally-listen-sit-quiet-video/


Stop behaving like a progressive!........he was doing exactly the opposite
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Oct 25, 2016 07:09:05   #
lpnmajor wrote:
There are a number of ways humans willingly ens***e themselves, usually unknowingly. There are systems that societies use to govern themselves, each with it's own unique attributes, but one thing is common for them all - they are invariably used to control the populace that adopts them. C*******m, Socialism, Democracy, Republicanism, to name a few, and each of these share that common trait - control.

Through the years, there have been many variations of the most commonly known soSad but true!cietal governing philosophies, none of them exactly the same, except for the controlling of the masses component. China and the USSR were c*******t States, but had vastly different approaches to the application of that ideology. As stated earlier, the only commonality between them, was the ability to control their populations. The State owns all business and production capability, making the populace completely dependent on the Government for survival, who may then dictate ALL areas of human conduct and interaction. One either complies, or starves, if not arrested and executed. This allows the Government elite to live like Kings and do as they please, who's going to stop them?

There is another common element to these ideologies, in that there are always entities acting behind the scenes, the powers behind the throne, if you will. These entities are called "Oligarchs" and exist in EVERY form of Government - including democratic and republican types. This has been true since the dawn of modern human kind. Despite what ideological rhetoric is used, such as "for the good of the people", these Governments respond to the needs and wants of the Oligarchs, not the people whom they profess to serve, who are viewed as chattel and s***e labor - even when they are "paid" for their services. The Oligarchs decide how much "stuff" a person may have, including any pay for services rendered, and decide how much that person may keep for their own use. The majority of that "pay" will be returned to the Oligarchs, who control every aspect of human survival, from food, medicine, utilities, entertainment, and everything in between. A significant portion of that "pay" will be used to finance the Government, which is an extension of the Oligarchs will and intent.

Even here, in a democratic type society, the Oligarchs hold sway and ultimate control. The Government responds to their needs and wishes, over and above those of the people it purports to serve. The populace is kept under control here, by giving them the illusion that they have a say in their Government and it's affairs. The people willingly allow their rights to be abridged for "the good of the people", forgetting that they ARE the people. The well known phrase "you can't fight city hall" was not coined by the people, nor by city hall, but by the Oligarchs for whom city hall actually works. This psychological conditioning has been going on for centuries now, leaving the current generation incapable of behaving any differently - causing our forebears to twist in their graves. Those forbears threw off the yoke of s***ery to an English King, overcoming centuries of conditioned obedience, to seek freedom to chart their OWN course, and the Oligarchs set to work immediately to get the populace back under control - and succeeded.
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