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Mar 10, 2018 16:36:44   #
Otisimo wrote:
Hello all 😎
About a year ago I became aware of OPP and started following it on a daily basis. I had been reading Daily Kos for a while but wondered what the other side of the story was. I want to start by saying that I am not a Democrat nor a Republican, I am an American! I believe that the political divide in this country is counterproductive to our nation and the world and we must put aside derisive rhetoric and come together as the one people we truly are, Americans!
The issues that separate us are not nearly as important as the ones that bind us together and make us one people and nation

I was raised by loving parents on a small farm in S.W. Michigan and learned from my father and mother a work ethic that has served me well my entire life. I have tried to instill that same work ethic in my children to a lessor or greater degree. All you can do as they grow is try to teach by example and simply be there for them. I can truly say that I am proud of all of them! 👍. A blessing to be sure. 🙏

I worked as a salesman and sales manager for most of my life and enjoyed a decent income and life until an injury forced me to retire at the age of 50. I currently live in western New York State with my wife and her mother and our golden-doodle. (Who is the real boss of the family. Lol ). I enlisted in the U.S. Navy in 1976 for 4 years active and 2 years reserve. Took basic training at Great Mistakes Illinois in February of that year and have been cold ever since. Lol
Most of my time these days is spent on music and reading and the ever present honey- list. I look forward to having positive discourse with you all here on OPP as we come together as the true Americans that we are whether conservatives or liberal.

Thank you for your time.
Otis
Hello all 😎 br About a year ago I became aware of... (show quote)

If by "true American", you mean, a citizen of the United States of America, then I am one. However, because I have a habit of v****g for Democratic Party candidates, many on OPP will call me a T*****r.

I hope you are able to find the "positive discourse" you are looking for here on OPP. My experience has found it mostly absent, but if you enjoy invective and ad hominem argument, you will find OPP rewarding.
(I seem to be a******lly pessimistic today. )
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Mar 10, 2018 16:19:04   #
[Irony Alert] Thankfully you have FOX to confirm all your thoughts.
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Mar 10, 2018 16:04:10   #
I suggest everyone go to the source:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/02/monica-lewinsky-in-the-age-of-metoo

Who do you first think is the "Man in the Hat"?

The following might also be of interest:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/power-causes-brain-damage/528711/
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Mar 9, 2018 22:43:52   #
Super Dave wrote:
A person that believes in globalism.

How do you get anti semitism out of it, especially given that the left is where the vast majority of anti semetism lies?

Here is a place that might explain how the idea of antisemitism comes about:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/03/trump-g*******t-cohn/555269/

and another:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/8/17096876/g*******ts-explained

and yet another:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/03/09/trump-called-gary-cohn-a-g*******t-heres-why-some-people-find-that-offensive/?utm_term=.cea044b1f5cd

By the way, what study told you that "the left is where the vast majority of anti semetism [sic] lies"?
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Mar 9, 2018 12:30:38   #
working class stiff wrote:
If you think Farrakhan is some sort of power broker, or that he has support from more than a handful of Democrats you're living in a fantasy of your own creation. Wishful thinking (that Farrakhan represents mainstream Dems) is not a rational basis for analysis. It's the same wishful thinking that leads some to assert that Dems are extremists or c*******ts. It makes it impossible to talk rationally with the holders of that falsehood.
Which seems to be what you want....not to talk, but simply to accuse and assert those with whom you disagree are evil.

Have fun patting yourselves on the back for disengaging with half your fellow citizens. We'll still be here when you come back to reality.
If you think Farrakhan is some sort of power broke... (show quote)

Despite the irony, here's a pat on the back (and a thumbs up) from me to you.


I wonder if eagleye13 thinks Jews are his enemy?
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Mar 9, 2018 12:27:19   #
bahmer wrote:
If we could change welfare to reward the two parent family over the single parent family and thus encourage marriage instead of uncontrolled breading we would have a shot at correcting this problem. I know that the democrats would be beside themselves if we would dare reverse LBJ and his proclamation about having b****s v****g democrat for 200 years but we have to do something.

"uncontrolled breading" ??? Are you talking about putting too many buns in the oven?
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Mar 9, 2018 12:19:12   #
JimMe wrote:
I was born in 1950... And our parents never - not ever - laid a hand on us... Guns were not a part of our household... But respect for others was very important... My father said, "No one has to earn your respect. They have to earn your disrespect. And only when they earn your disrespect do they have to do things to regain your respect."

I have lived my entire life with my father's thoughts in mind... And everyone I've known, regardless of race, creed, color. and religion have found me to be a good, caring person... And they've told me so...
I was born in 1950... And our parents never - not ... (show quote)


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Mar 7, 2018 23:00:18   #
2bltap wrote:
After watching all of the criminality that has been going with the DNC, Hillary Clinton and their foundation as well as some within the Republican Party it overwhelmingly my psition that what is being provided in this video is the t***h. Again, as I have said on a number of occassions here on OPP I am NOT a consperious theory type of person and take things with a HUGE GRAIN OF SALT. However, how can anyone here that is actually trying to be honest about (PROGRESSIVE THINKERS) on OPP not at least think privately that this is what the hell has been going on? There are many here that are much better educated than I am and thats perfectly ok. Im always in a learning curve. However, I have been around the block amny times in my life and common sense is one of my intillectual strengths. Please watch when you have the time and inclination and tell me where Im might be going wrong.
Semper Fi

https://youtu.be/yPiVLAQ-fUc
After watching all of the criminality that has bee... (show quote)

If you have any desire to avoid confirmation bias, you might want to read these:
https://www.thenation.com/article/seth-rich-conspiracy-theorists-and-russiagate-t***hers/
http://www.politifact.com/t***h-o-meter/article/2017/aug/07/seth-rich-separating-fact-and-speculation/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/seth-rich-dnc-wikileaks-murder/
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Mar 2, 2018 11:25:19   #
eagleye13 wrote:
This is a nation of laws. Crimes are to be prosecuted.
The guilty are to be punished; not run the government for their handlers.

And yet, you seem to think, the investigation Mueller leads is a "witch hunt"?
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Mar 2, 2018 11:15:32   #
bahmer wrote:
I wish that we could somehow shift into a higher gear.

You guys seem to be wishing for the United States of America to become like authoritarian despot run countries where political opponents are jailed or disappeared.
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Mar 1, 2018 15:41:37   #
jack sequim wa wrote:
The word budget comes to mind. A business owner (small/medium size) operating on a 20-30% profit margin if he wants to stay in business, must manage inventory levels, scheduling employees to meet traffic patterns, product consistency, advertising, training, and a host of other balancing acts. Should the business owner run only a small 2-3% over in each area he closes the doors to the next business owner that can work within narrow margins.
In every aspect of government entities, take the VA for example, or even the EPA, with those managing from the top down ill fit to run a Mc Donald's. The VA unable to provide a service regardless how many budget increases they continued receiving as the answer to fix their incompetence. Yet a similar business model a privately owned hospital has far superior service on a fraction of the operating budget.
The EPA, every State, city, and most towns have regulations or requirements for (example) pulp mills to expel pollution within guidelines. Port Townsend a small 11,000 population town in Washington State every couple years would raise the bar on their pulp mill clean air and water requirements. The mill actually has water going out that has been cleaned and better than the water coming in. Yet the Federal EPA has to get their piece of the pie with less required purity still spends money to monitor the mill and issue license to operate. This model of the EPA duplicating what States and Cities across America are already doing. Another example would be the EPA overreach regulations that they themselves write (as laws) outside of their scope of legalities, outside of Congress, costing hundreds of millions to manage and when the EPA needs to expand their departments to keep up the ability to manage regulations they simply request more budget funds.

I believe most every department within the governments control can be operated as a business model and with duplication removed or closed down could save tax payers trillions if 10-15 year periods.
The word budget comes to mind. A business owner (s... (show quote)

I googled, why is VA so bad, and got:
https://www.reddit.com/r/self/comments/3lfouy/im_tired_of_hearing_why_people_h**e_the_va_here/
Some of the problems with the VA, may be due to unfunded mandates from Congress.

Also, googling, what is wrong with EPA, I got:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskTrumpSupporters/comments/5h2quu/what_is_wrong_with_the_epa_do_you_support/#bottom-comments

Perhaps we should just have Washington state and it's environmental regulations replace the EPA.
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Mar 1, 2018 14:52:37   #
bggamers wrote:
For promise go to Boward county Florida the promise program and Dreamers should'nt lose DACA status when they follow the rules----sorry but this is how I find things. My lap top and I dont get along since I spilled lemon aid on the key board so have separate key board attached and most times even it gives me fit dropping letters

Because browsers give different results for different people (based on different search histories, for instance), it would be very unlikely that I would find your sources (in fact, I found nothing to support your previous statements), so unless you can provide me links to your sources, I cannot find any reason to believe your previous assertions. Therefore, I stand by my original statement, that the Dreamer's undocumented status prevents naturalization; and further, nothing in the DACA program provides a path to citizenship.
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Mar 1, 2018 13:25:30   #
Lonewolf wrote:
don't know the guy next door maybe but he can't run because he doesn't have a billion dollars.
All the candidates from all parties have sold their soul to get to be a candidate add big money to that and you have a president and a congress who work for donors, not the American people.

Perhaps a lottery would be a possible method for choosing office holders, similar to how the Council was chosen in Athens.
http://www.stoa.org/projects/demos/article_democracy_overview?page=6&greekEncoding=
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Mar 1, 2018 12:43:30   #
bggamers wrote:
If they were under the dreamer umbrella they would be ok any one of them could have tried to naturalize.What most do not realize is many were not children at all and all had to follow certain rules like they had to finish school most didnt they had to stay away from gangs most didnt in fact most didnt meet any thing I think there are maybe close to 14,000 that have followed the rules but a few are getting picked up for wrong reasons these need to be addressed.

Where did you get your information? I could find nothing to support what you say.

I found things that contradict what you say:
http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/11/the-numbers-behind-the-dreamers/

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/sites/default/.../DACA-Occupational-2017-FINAL.pdf

https://www.quora.com/How-can-you-go-from-a-dreamer-person-with-DACA-permit-to-a-citizen

Please provide links to support your statements. Thanks.
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Mar 1, 2018 02:25:14   #
Loki wrote:
More than 75% of these Dreamers are over 21, and no more than a handful have made any effort to become naturalized. Unlike the more than one milliion Mexican nationals who, RIGHT NOW, are waiting patiently to become citizens the lawful way, these people want it handed to them for free ahead of those doing it legally. Their parents were border jumpers and they are line cutters.

I think their undocumented status prevents them from becoming naturalized.
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