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Jun 24, 2022 10:57:31   #
Liberty Tree wrote:
A******n abuses the right to life of every unborn child.


Who takes care of the child after the mother has been forced to give birth? Adoptions are down - plus I doubt many (if any) of the people advocating for this will line up to adopt. I have talked to some, and each one said that they wouldn't because of the potential for the child to have "problems" because of the circumstances of the birth.
This has become a religion and control issue. Control women to keep them in their "rightful" place and force your religious beliefs onto someone else.
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Jun 23, 2022 21:48:22   #
JFlorio wrote:
Yep. War mongers have used that word like a “weapon.”


I agree.
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Jun 23, 2022 21:39:42   #
JFlorio wrote:
That is correct. Foreign wars were something I believe the Founders would abhor today unless said war was a direct threat to our interests.


The definition of "interests" then become the driver.
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Jun 23, 2022 21:10:24   #
JFlorio wrote:
See, that’s where you do not know your history. Our Founders absolutely wanted the citizenry armed as well as the government. The 2nd Amendment is the one Amendment that makes America unique and free. I am not worried about a tyrant from some country attacking us. I’m worried about the mini tyrants in Washington D.C. trying to erode our freedoms.


My recollection is that they did not want a standing army, the m*****a was intended to come together for anything needed at the national level.
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Jun 23, 2022 19:24:05   #
JFlorio wrote:
See, that’s where you do not know your history. Our Founders absolutely wanted the citizenry armed as well as the government. The 2nd Amendment is the one Amendment that makes America unique and free. I am not worried about a tyrant from some country attacking us. I’m worried about the mini tyrants in Washington D.C. trying to erode our freedoms.


The original intention was that the citizenry be the m*****a, and not have a standing army. Also that they retain weapons for hunting and personal protection. Reality is that I don't disagree with that. I do doubt that there was any prescient thought in their minds that semi-automatic weapons (or automatic weapons for that matter) would be developed . I also doubt that they thought there would be people acquiring layers of multiple weapons for their personal protection.
And for others that have piled on - you don't have to read slow and use small words. That is demeaning and not appropriate if there is to be civil discourse. Since that appears to be something some people have issues with, I will respectfully withdraw from this conversation and look elsewhere (within OPP) for other topics.
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Jun 23, 2022 17:54:16   #
JFlorio wrote:
A******n is not an "enshrined" right in the Constitution, it is a law that gives you the right to have a procedure done with certain caveats. Citizens United is no more a travesty than Public Employee Unions donating to their candidate of choice. Choice of the heads of the Unions; or the trial lawyers union. you have selective outrage.


You are correct about the donations. The 2nd Amendment was not intended to allow citizens to gather arsenals, therfore the current interpretation is not necessarily "enshrined" by the Constitution.
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Jun 23, 2022 13:53:25   #
Liberty Tree wrote:
The SCOTUS struck down the overly restrictive NY law on concealed weapons. Just because some abuse a right does not give cause to take away that right from others. Still waiting on Roe V. Wade decision. May the Court not cave to intimidation and continue to uphold the Cinstitution.


Let's take that logic to another issue. Just because some people abuse the right to a******n does not give cause to take away that right from others.
I am sure the 1st thing you will say is that the Constitution doesn't mention a******n, but there are many things covered by decisions that aren't there - think Citizens United (a complete travesty).
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Jun 21, 2022 23:02:57   #
martsiva wrote:
How blind I am???? Well I`m not blind to the fact that Democrats have broken our i*********n l*ws and allowed 1000s of i******s into this country!! I`m not blind to the fact that Democrats are trying to push g****r confusion on our young children!! I`m not blind to the fact that they play the race card every chance to divide Americans and call people that don`t agree with them, r****ts!! And I am definitely not blind to the fact that Democrats have openly supported Marxist c*******m!! That`s just for starters!! Now if you are blind to these facts, it only shows that you support all this damage!!!
How blind I am???? Well I`m not blind to the fact ... (show quote)


A Cato Institute article dated 1/20/21 titled "President Trump reduced legal immigration. He did not reduce i*****l i*********n" would seem to disagree with your initial statement. There's no "pushing", simply an acknowlement that there are people on a sliding spectrum of sexuality. Plus, that isn't happening everywhere and not at lower grade levels. I am not sure where this coming from - I know it isn't happening where we live. The race card gets used by both sides, so give it a rest. Some Democrats have openly supported socialism, but Marxism, c*******m and socialism are different ideologies.
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Jun 21, 2022 00:25:09   #
martsiva wrote:
NOPE!! You avoided my direct question!! Do you deny that Democrats have done great damage to this nation?? What - you too much of a coward to answer with a simple yes or no???


Yes, I deny that the Democrats have done any more damage to the nation than Trump did. We disagree on definitions. That is unlikely to change. I cannot believe how blind you are and you feel the same about me.
I agree to disagree with you and leave it at that.
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Jun 21, 2022 00:20:08   #
proud republican wrote:
Trump was obstructed by your people 24/7..and he got his things done..


He had McConnell working with him. Republicans had a majority in the Senate his entire presidency. They had a majority for the 1st 2 years in the House and then the Democrats had a slim majority the next 2 years.
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Jun 19, 2022 17:49:00   #
martsiva wrote:
Trump wasn`t trying t destroy this country like Biden is or are you going to deny all the damage the Democrats have done???


With significant help from the obstructionism by McConnell.
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Jun 19, 2022 17:47:05   #
proud republican wrote:
When are you going to get it through your head that Teump no longer President????🙄🙄


I got it thru my head. It's the far right that hasn’t.
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Jun 19, 2022 10:44:02   #
proud republican wrote:
Yes, I would love to be a fly on the wall..But I bet you they will switch it to Trump..


Not a chance, at least for me.
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Jun 19, 2022 10:41:30   #
proud republican wrote:
When are you people on the Left are going to admit to Buyer's Remorse?


As soon as you do the same for Trump
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Jun 17, 2022 18:28:17   #
microphor wrote:
Conservatives tend to be pro life, why would they destroy pregnancy centers?

"Jane's Revenge is an American far-left militant organization, which has perpetrated and threatened domestic terror attacks in the name of defending a******n rights. The group has committed acts of firebombing, vandalism, and arson. The group was formed in 2022 in response to the leak of a possible Supreme Court ruling overturning Roe v. Wade."


My bad. Did not do my usual research. I don't agree with nor condone violence from either side.
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