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Mar 5, 2023 16:22:53   #
Zemirah wrote:
Larai, because God knows your heart, He is aware of your understanding.

"Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear and obey what is written in it, because the time is near" (Revelation 1:3).

It would take hours, IMHO, to explain one's understanding of the entire twenty two chapters of the book of Revelation.

For example, Chuck Missler has a video series of 26 separate videos (each lasting over one hour) on the book of Revelation, available for viewing on YouTube.

It is not clear if the four horsemen follow each other sequentially or if they ride forth simultaneously. If they follow each other sequentially, an unknown amount of time elapses between their rides.

Because the horses, their colors and purpose are initially introduced in the Old Testament by the prophet Zechariah, I too believe that the spiritual entities they represent have previously strode across this earth, for instance, in the destruction of Hitler, before he could destroy all the Jewish people; although the devastation, and regional destruction that is described in Revelation for the last days will be greater than any previously known.

By Judah, do you mean Jacob's son, or the land of Judah, i.e., the southern kingdom which encompasses Jerusalem?

Jesus Christ will return as the Lion of the tribe of Judah.The earliest reference to Jesus as a lion can be found in Genesis, where Jacob (Israel) delivers parting words to each of his sons. When he arrives at Judah, his fourth born, Jacob says,

"Judah, your brothers shall praise you;your hand shall be on the neck of your enemies; your father’s sons shall bow down to you. 'Judah is a lion’s whelp; from the prey, my son, you have gone up. He couches, he lies down as a lion, and as a lion, who dares rouse him up? ‘The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor the ruler’s staff from between his feet, until Shiloh comes" (Genesis 49:8-10).

"And one of the elders said to me, “Weep no more; behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has conquered, so that He can open the scroll and its seven seals” (Revelation 5:5).
Larai, because God knows your heart, He is aware o... (show quote)


Thank you Zemirah!
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Mar 3, 2023 00:39:30   #
Zemirah wrote:
Larai, The Old Testament Hebrew prophet Zechariah, who wrote (520-518 BC) precedes Revelation (95-96 AD) six hundred years in discussing the horses of four colors, - if you would like to add this to your puzzle of God's meaning:

The Vision of the Horses

Zechariah 1:7-9
7 "On the twenty-fourth day of the eleventh month, the month of Shebat, in the second year of Darius, the word of the LORD came to the prophet Zechariah son of Berechiah, the son of Iddo.
8 "I looked out into the night and saw a man riding on a red horse. He was standing among the myrtle trees in the hollow, and behind him were red, sorrel, and white horses.
9 "What are these, my lord?” I asked. And the angel who was speaking with me replied, “I will show you what they are."


The Vision of the Four Char**ts

Zechariah 6:1-8

1 And again I lifted up my eyes and saw four char**ts coming out from between two mountains - mountains of bronze.
2 The first char**t had red horses, the second black horses,
3 the third white horses, and the fourth dappled horses - all of them strong.

4 So I inquired of the angel who was speaking with me, "What are these, my lord?"

5 And the angel told me, “These are the four spirits,a of heaven, going forth from their station before the Lord of all the earth.
6 The one with the black horses is going toward the land of the north, the one with the white horses toward the west,b and the one with the dappled horses toward the south.”

7 As the strong horses went out, they were eager to go and patrol the earth; and the LORD said, "Go and patrol the earth." So they patrolled the earth.
8 Then the LORD summoned me and said, “Behold, those going to the land of the north have given rest to My Spirit in the land of the north."

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Larai, The Old Testament Hebrew prophet Zechariah,... (show quote)


I actually, just finished RE-Reading Revelations all 22 chapters of it.. The Only major name besides our father and his son Jesus was Judah.. there was a lot to it, but while I understood it, My Aunt who knows the bible front to back asked me to explain what I understood and sadly I could not.. there is a LOT of depth of revelations.. and just because I understood it, doesn't mean that I can explain what I understood.. I figure that was God's Hand, & Maybe someday, I'll be able to explain what I understood about it.. but the bottom line, as far as my topic matter, I feel we have seen the 4 horsemen over the world's history Way more than once! I feel we have felt those 4 horsemen multiple times through out our world's history & I feel there will be more times in our lifetime!
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Feb 9, 2023 00:41:19   #
AuntiE wrote:
This belongs over in Faith Religion Spirituality.


I realize that but since the last couple topics I've been replying on have been political that had Morphed into Christ's origins.. seemed reasonable, given the state of our country to bring up the 4 horseman of the apocalypse... as they are completely relevant to the current state of the U.S. and the rest of the world.. Between burning down of meat, chicken and other food production to "Mysterious Fires" seemed also relevant to the horseman in charge of Famine.. Of course there is the other alternative of just not commenting on things you don't like, you know, like we tell liberals to do, just scroll on by or change the channel or not going to places they know they are goin to be offended by!!
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Feb 8, 2023 23:15:13   #
Birdmam wrote:
He’s a broken record parrot


Indeed!! I have noticed a common M.O. with him..He seems to use a Lot of repeat memes to TRY to get across to people, his Total lack of relevancy & his Sooo NOT coherent DRIVEL!!
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Feb 8, 2023 22:41:06   #
Birdmam wrote:
Sloby


Birdmam, don't let ol' bad bob distract from the topic matter!.. He's a Yahoo on a Good day!.. Frankly kinda tired of his totally NOT cute lil memes distracting from the topic at hand, he's famous for this when he has zero relevant commentary!.. He's like a 5 year old w/out parental supervision..
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Feb 8, 2023 17:19:32   #
Zemirah wrote:
Larai, The Old Testament Hebrew prophet Zechariah, who wrote (520-518 BC) precedes Revelation (95-96 AD) six hundred years in discussing the horses of four colors, - if you would like to add this to your puzzle of God's meaning:

The Vision of the Horses

Zechariah 1:7-9
7 "On the twenty-fourth day of the eleventh month, the month of Shebat, in the second year of Darius, the word of the LORD came to the prophet Zechariah son of Berechiah, the son of Iddo.
8 "I looked out into the night and saw a man riding on a red horse. He was standing among the myrtle trees in the hollow, and behind him were red, sorrel, and white horses.
9 "What are these, my lord?” I asked. And the angel who was speaking with me replied, “I will show you what they are."


The Vision of the Four Char**ts

Zechariah 6:1-8

1 And again I lifted up my eyes and saw four char**ts coming out from between two mountains - mountains of bronze.
2 The first char**t had red horses, the second black horses,
3 the third white horses, and the fourth dappled horses - all of them strong.

4 So I inquired of the angel who was speaking with me, "What are these, my lord?"

5 And the angel told me, “These are the four spirits,a of heaven, going forth from their station before the Lord of all the earth.
6 The one with the black horses is going toward the land of the north, the one with the white horses toward the west,b and the one with the dappled horses toward the south.”

7 As the strong horses went out, they were eager to go and patrol the earth; and the LORD said, "Go and patrol the earth." So they patrolled the earth.
8 Then the LORD summoned me and said, “Behold, those going to the land of the north have given rest to My Spirit in the land of the north."

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Larai, The Old Testament Hebrew prophet Zechariah,... (show quote)


Thank you Zemirah, I've heard the char**t version as well..
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Feb 8, 2023 02:07:46   #
Ok.. So we have established through previous posts that Jesus was of the tribe of Judah..

What I want to talk about NOW is the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse.. and an opinion on how often they've shown themselves throughout our history.

Think about it.. and In order of appearance:

"The first horse, a white one, seems bent on conquest;(Revelation 6:2). Its rider wears a crown and holds a bow. Some people have attributed the rider of this horse as the person of Jesus, as later in Revelation 19 Jesus rides a white horse."

Question:
Conquests of what exactly, land country or religion??
Seems most of our wars have to do with the aforementioned 3.. what do you think?

"The Second Horse, The next horse, a fiery red one, takes peace from the Earth, He carries a large sword and blatantly represents war and violence. This makes sense to follow after the conquest-driven horse and rider. Conquest often leads to war. (Revelation 6:4).(Revelation 6:5-6)."


Hmmm.. How many conflicts has this country alone had... during our history, Revolutionary war, war of 1812, Civil War... WW1.. WW11 Now possibly WW111 in between we've had Korea, Viet Nam, Gulf wars.. Ukraine/Russia, China vs U.S. & Taiwan.. etc etc et al

"The 3rd Horsemen: The Black Horse and Horseman

Famine: This rider carries a pair of scales in his hand and seems to refer to a famine that will wipe out wheat and barley supplies, and spare oil and wine reserves. Some scholars attribute this famine to the wars that occurred before it. Throughout history, those who tend to farm and contribute to food supplies yield such duties to fight in wars. Because of this, the food supplies suffer, and entire civilizations collapse. (Revelation 6:5-6)."

"The 4th Horsemen: The Pale Horse and Horseman

Naturally, when food supplies dwindle and wars break out, death follows. The pale horse has the power of famine, plague, and to k**l by the sword and by the wild beasts (Revelation 6:8).
Sickness and famine often break out as a result of warfare, and this horse stands as no exception. (Revelation 6:8)."

"Have the four horsemen already come?

Historians can often point to the fourteenth century as a time that echoed several of these apocalyptic events. The crusades echoed the conquest of the first rider, a great many wars broke out such as the Hundred Years War, and famine and death overtook the land because of the Bubonic plague and the Great Famine of 1315-1317. Nevertheless, history does have a way of repeating itself. Even if the events that t***spired in the past reflected those in Revelation, we have yet to experience these again."

It's an interesting question... Something I've wondered about for a long while now. It'll be nice to see your replies!

https://www.christianity.com/wiki/end-times/who-are-the-four-horsemen-in-revelation-their-meaning-and-significance.html
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Feb 6, 2023 03:20:45   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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Sorry Larai, we are discussing off topic from Trump. But anyways I have so many defenses to present in favor of Trump. I am just starting. He has lots of email asking to join his Team. I can't. Feeling older now , losing energy since I retired. Time moves so fast. Please have a good night.


Radiance, you have nothing to apologize for..this topic was Ginny's to begin with...i was just asking Ginny, How exactly does religion play a roll in her original post?
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Feb 6, 2023 01:28:27   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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Mary was a descendant from, King Solomon! Check the first display of their ancestry, in prior page.


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Feb 6, 2023 01:24:30   #
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
So, what you're saying is that Judah was a Jew? That's not possible!

I didn't say Jesus was a descendant of Levi's - that was a quote from the website.

https://highlanderjuan.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Benjamin-H-Freedman-Speech-at-the-Willard-Hotel-1961.pdf

excerpt:

In 1345, a man by the name of Wycliffe in England thought that it was time to t***slate the Bible into English. There was no English edition of the Bible because who the Devil could read? It was only the educated church people who could read Latin and Greek, Syriac, Aramaic and the other languages. Anyhow, Wycliffe t***slated the Bible into English. But in it, he had to look around for some words for Judaeas and Judaius.

There was no English word because Judea had passed out of existence. There was no Judea. People had long ago forgotten that. So in the first t***slation he used the word, in referring to Jesus, as 'gyu', "jew". At the time, there was no printing press.

Then, between 1345 and the 17th century, when the press came into use, that word passed through so many changes... I have them all here. If you want I can read them to you. I will. That word 'gyu' which was in the Wycliffe Bible became...first it was 'gyu', then 'giu', then 'iu'(because the 'i' in Latin is pronounced like the ' j '.Julius Caesar is ' Iul ' because there is no 'j' in Latin) then ' iuw ', then 'ieuu', then 'ieuy', then 'iwe', then' iow', then 'iewe',all in Bibles as time went on. Then' ieue ', then ' iue ', then ' ive ', and then ' ivw ', and finally in the 18th century... ' jew '. Jew.

All the corrupt and contracted forms for Judaius, and Judaeas in Latin. Now, there was no such thing as 'Jew', and any theologian -- I've lectured in maybe 20 of the most prominent theological seminaries in this country, and two in Europe -- there was no such word as Jew. There only was Judea, and Jesus was a Judean and the first English use of a word in an English bible to describe him was 'gyu' -- Jew. A contracted and shortened form of Judaeus, just the same as we call a laboratory a 'lab', and gasoline 'gas'... a tendency to short up.

So, in England there were no public schools; people didn't know how to read; it looked like a scrambled alphabet so they made a short word out of it. Now for a theologian to say that you can't harm the Jews, is just ridiculous. I'd like to know where in the scriptures it says that. I'd like to know the text.

Look at what happened to Germany for touching Jews. What would you, as a citizen of the United States, do to people who did to you what the so-called Jews -- the Pollacks and Litvaks and Litzianers - - they weren't Jews, as I just explained to you. They were Eastern Europeans who'd been converted to Talmudism. There was no such thing as Judaism. Judaism was a name given in recent years to this religion known in Bible history as Torah [inaudible]. No Jew or no educated person ever heard of Judaism. It didn't exist. They pulled it out of the air. . . a meaningless word.

Just like 'anti-Semitic'. The Arab is a Semite. And the Christians talk about people who don't like Jews as anti-Semites, and they call all the Arabs anti-Semites. The only Semites in the world are the Arabs. There isn't one Jew who's a Semite. They're all Turkothean Mongoloids. The Eastern european Jews. So, they brainwashed the public, and if you will invite me to meet this reverend who told you these things, I'll convince him and it'll be one step in the right direction. I'll go wherever I have to go to meet him.
So, what you're saying is that Judah was a Jew? Th... (show quote)


What the Actual FK are you even talking about!! What the Actual Fk do you expect to gain by pushing your idea of Judaism????!!!? I'm Gettin Tired of your Version of Judaism!! Which BY The Way has ZERO to do with How we feel about Trump! Knock it off your making yourself sound Foolish Ginny, and I had hoped you were one of the more sane ones here on OPP, but my View is Changing in a Major way!.. in short, your PISSIN ME OFF!!
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Feb 5, 2023 23:34:31   #
whole2th wrote:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chinese-spy-balloon-crashed-off-coast-of-hawaii-4-months-ago/ Trump poses an existential threat to f**e news monopoly media.


Thank you whole2th! It's about time to get this back to the actual subject matter.. I honestly don't get how most topics on OPP morph into something that does NOT even remotely resemble to subject matter!.. Honestly it's irritating how topics, even some of the ones I post, tend to morph into something that doesn't even remotely resemble the topic matter.. I mean really, I didn't get involved in this topic to deal with religion in the same breath as politics.

WTAF Does Religion have to do with how we feel about Trump FFS!!.. This almost proves my point a while back that TDS seems to run on BOTH sides of the isle!!.. Some that feel he can do no wrong, and others that feel he can do no right.. and it screams of TDS on both sides of the isle! Keep in Mind~ NO ONE IS PERFECT!! Period.. Full Stop!
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Feb 3, 2023 01:31:53   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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Ginny, with humility of heart, Jesus came from Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Juda, the 4th son of Jacob, and down the line till Jesus was born to the Virgin Mother Mary. Please I will never change my position on this. Please open the down load. It was Juda who was there, next to Jacob. He was also Israelite, but the closest descendant where he came from was Juda, the 4th son of Jacob. Levi was the 3rd son, and was assigned as the Priest.

Please open the download, the picture and generation of Jesus will all come out till he was born to Mary. And Joseph was assigned by the Holy Spirit to raise Jesus with mother Mary, descendant of King Solomon. Check the down loaded picture where descendants from the beginning to end were presented. Click the download twice to enlarge the picture for better read. Thank you. Jesus is a Jew!
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Radiance! Thank you for posting the Linage of Jesus Christ!..

It's funny, there are Jews out there that do Not believe that Christ is the Messiah.. there are a Lot of sects of Judaism that Believe he is the Messiah..

There are Christians that don't know how to count! 1rst coming-He was Born 2nd Coming, He rose from Lazaras's tomb, so His 3rd coming hasn't come yet!..

Jesus WAS a Jew.. as in his birth, but his physical body is gone, which was Jew..
There is one line that is kinda sad, because I was always under the impression that Jesus KNEW why he was put on the cross.. But his question to His and OUR Father was "Why Has thou forsaken me?

Also, Those that have worshipped a Picture of Jesus Christ as a Blond haired Blue eyed white man, need to go back to his birth place and take a lookie see on what the skin tone of desert dwellers there were.. I'm Pretty sure he was Dark Skinned, Dark haired, & Dark Eyes!!

That was one of the things that GOD did when he placed us on this planet.. He chose skin pigmintation based on what part of the world and equator he put people in.. Just something I've read numerous times from numerous sources on this subject...Again, raised in Both faiths..
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Feb 3, 2023 00:20:06   #
Wow!! Firstly, I'm shocked that this topic has gotten so much traction.. because it's been mostly dead, as far as responses for most of a couple weeks!.. All the sudden revived to Insult every Jew on the planet regarding Jesus Christ and his origins.. Being a Jew.. I find most of what Ginny has said regarding Jews/Isrealites .. kind of offensive, it's like she's reading from entirely different bible/torah. Although, as a "tongue in cheek" aside, Some of us Jews would really like to know what exactly we were chosen For??? Was it persecution, was it being the s***es of the Pharaoh's, was it being mass murdered in N**i Germany?? Was it all the Anti Semite Bulls**t being displayed???

Which brings me to my next point.. This topic, like so many others here on OPP has morphed from it's original question into something akin to the Big Green Monster of Fenway Park.. as in WAYYY Out in Left field!!.. Color me shocked!.. Kinda.. NOT..
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Feb 2, 2023 23:09:59   #
Radiance3 wrote:
Jesus is a Jew when he came lived with us.

Matthew 1:1-17
1 The family tree of Jesus Christ, David's son, Abraham's son:
2 Abraham had Isaac, Isaac had Jacob, Jacob had Judah and his brothers,
3 Judah had Perez and Zerah (the mother was Tamar), Perez had Hezron, Hezron had Aram,
4 Aram had Amminadab, Amminadab had Nahshon, Nahshon had Salmon,
5 Salmon had Boaz (his mother was Rahab), Boaz had Obed (Ruth was the mother), Obed had Jesse,
6 Jesse had David, and David became king. David had Solomon (Uriah's wife was the mother),
7 Solomon had Rehoboam, Rehoboam had Abijah, Abijah had Asa,
8 Asa had Jehoshaphat, Jehoshaphat had Joram, Joram had Uzziah,
9 Uzziah had Jotham, Jotham had Ahaz, Ahaz had Hezekiah,
10 Hezekiah had Manasseh, Manasseh had Amon, Amon had Josiah,
11 Josiah had Jehoiachin and his brothers, and then the people were taken into the Babylonian exile.
12 When the Babylonian exile ended, Jehoiachin had Shealtiel, Shealtiel had Zerubbabel,
13 Zerubbabel had Abiud, Abiud had Eliakim, Eliakim had Azor,
14 Azor had Zadok, Zadok had Achim, Achim had Eliud,
15 Eliud had Eleazar, Eleazar had Matthan, Matthan had Jacob,
16 Jacob had Joseph, Mary's husband, the Mary who gave birth to Jesus, the Jesus who was called Christ.
17 There were fourteen generations from Abraham to David, another fourteen from David to the Babylonian exile, and yet another fourteen from the Babylonian exile to Christ. The Birth of Jesus.
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Feb 2, 2023 00:55:40   #
microphor wrote:
I still have a problem with a Senator removing classified docs from the SCIF. They are not suppose to remove them from my understang. Biden a liar, c***t and thief, this is just more evidence of it.


I have a Massive issue with ALL things Biden!!!.. He has Always Been, and will Always BE til the day he takes his final dirt nap a Liar, c***t and an Extortionist..and His son didn't fall far from That Tree!!! He Should be hung for out right Treason!!.. His having those docs yes, Bad... Who he gave access to them is doubly egregious!
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