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Mar 18, 2015 17:58:03   #
Ronald Hatt wrote:
Where did "badbob" go? Did he take hiz marbles, & go home?


He lost his marbles a long time ago.
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Mar 18, 2015 17:29:31   #
KHH1 wrote:
*Where are the Fast and Furious hearings ? Even if there were...some guns do not compare to missiles. You righties cannot be that oblivious or partisan

Iran Contra:

First arms sale[edit]

On August 20, 1985, Israel sent 100 American-made BGM-71 TOW antitank missiles to Iran through an arms dealer named Manucher Ghorbanifar. Subsequently, on September 14, 1985, 408 more TOW missiles were delivered. On September 15, 1985, following the second delivery, Reverend Benjamin Weir was released by his captors, the Islamic Jihad Organization.[31]


On the day of McFarlane's resignation, Oliver North, a military aide to the United States National Security Council (NSC), proposed a new plan for selling arms to Iran, which included two major adjustments: instead of selling arms through Israel, the sale was to be direct, and a portion of the proceeds would go to Contras, or Nicaraguan paramilitary fighters waging guerrilla warfare against the democratically-elected Sandinista government, at a markup. North proposed a $15 million markup, while contracted arms broker Ghorbanifar added a 41% markup of his own.[38] Other members of the NSC were in favor of North's plan; with large support, Poindexter authorized it without notifying President Reagan, and it went into effect.[39] At first, the Iranians refused to buy the arms at the inflated price because of the excessive markup imposed by North and Ghorbanifar. They eventually relented, and in February 1986, 1,000 TOW missiles were shipped to the country.[39] From May to November 1986, there were additional shipments of miscellaneous weapons and parts.[39]

Both the sale of weapons to Iran, and the funding of the Contras, attempted to circumvent not only stated administration policy, but also the Boland Amendment.[8] Administration officials argued that regardless of the Congress restricting the funds for the Contras, or any affair, the President (or in this case the administration) could carry on by seeking alternative means of funding such as private entities and foreign governments.[40] Funding from one foreign country, Brunei, was botched when North's secretary, Fawn Hall, t***sposed the numbers of North's Swiss bank account number. A Swiss businessman, suddenly $10 million richer, alerted the authorities of the mistake. The money was eventually returned to the Sultan of Brunei, with interest.[41]
Subsequent dealings[edit]

In late July 1986, Hezbollah released another hostage, Father Lawrence Jenco, former head of Catholic Relief Services in Lebanon. Following this, William Casey, head of the CIA, requested that the United States authorize sending a shipment of small missile parts to Iranian military forces as a way of expressing gratitude.[46] Casey also justified this request by stating that the contact in the Iranian government might otherwise lose face, or be executed, and hostages k**led. Reagan authorized the shipment to ensure that those potential events would not occur.[46]
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And Obama gave assault weapons to Mexican drug dealers. It's not the scale, but the intent that matters. A thief is a thief, no matter how much is stolen. A murderer is a murderer, whether they have k**led one or one hundred.
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Mar 18, 2015 17:22:46   #
Nickolai wrote:
This is a complete crock of s**t. Get real In my experience you cant trust anyone who belongs to the cult of self


Did you even read the article? They were polls conducted by non partisan groups. Liberals admitted that it was ok to c***t on their taxes. More than half! Now, read the article, then get back to us and try to refute the facts.
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Mar 18, 2015 17:17:35   #
PeterS wrote:
Conservatives live in a world of logical fallacies which are intellectually dishonest at best and outright lies at worst. To then say that you are more honest than liberals only goes to prove the point. Nice try, but there has yet to be a conservative born who knows the slightest thing about the t***h...


Did you even read the article? I bet you didn't. Why don't you do that, then try to refute it? Who knows? You might even be able to fool someone into thinking you have a functioning brain.
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Mar 18, 2015 17:02:31   #
KHH1 wrote:
yeah okay...if you can tell THAT one......... :roll:


It's the t***h. Prove me wrong.
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Mar 18, 2015 16:58:05   #
KHH1 wrote:
Your guy mentioned Obama...So I mentioned Raygun after admitting Jackson's crime...you state deflection but I see you will not admit that Iran Contra was bigger than all of them...hence the hearings...you are not practicing deflection at all....you are practicing AVOIDANCE.......


Which was the bigger crime? Iran contra or fast and furious?
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Mar 18, 2015 16:53:15   #
KHH1 wrote:
I'll let you make the comparison...since you righties are so smart you can call someone like ME dumb, then comprehension and logic should not be an issue here. YOU tell me which is the bigger crime:


The Iran–Contra affair (Persian: &#1575;&#1740;&#1585;&#1575;&#1606;-&#1705;&#1606;&#1578;&#1585;&#1575;&#8206;, Spanish: caso Irán-Contra), also referred to as Irangate,[1] Contragate[2] or the Iran–Contra scandal, was a political scandal in the United States that occurred during the second term of the Reagan Administration. Senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo.[3] They hoped that the arms sales would secure the release of several US hostages and use the money to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, further funding of the Contras by the government had been prohibited by Congress.



VERSUS

In October 2012, Jackson was investigated for financial improprieties including misuse of campaign funds. Jackson resigned from Congress on November 21, 2012, citing mental and physical health problems, including bipolar disorder, clinical depression, and gastrointestinal problems. On February 8, 2013, Jackson admitted to violating federal campaign law by using campaign funds to make personal purchases.[4] Jackson pleaded guilty on February 20, 2013 to one count of wire and mail fraud.[5] On August 14, 2013, he was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison.[6]


**One purchased personal s**t with campaign funds (which the GOP guy just quit for doing) and the other t***sfer weapons to a country that had US hostages without Congressional authorization...now imagine if Pres. Obama did the same things...you all would flip the f-k out for real...so go ahead and tell me which of the two represents a greater t***sgression? Show ME how smart YOU are when making comparisons..........
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Obama. Fast and furious. Now shut your mouth. liberals do not have, nor have they ever, had the moral high ground.
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Mar 18, 2015 16:47:15   #
KHH1 wrote:
I'm bringing up to show that compared to the GOP...Jesse's trangression was small in comparison...and you know that.........and you had a Congressman just quit because he thinks he can skirt prosecution....my point is...people in glass houses...you know the rest......you righties all posture yourselves as self-righteous all the time...but from crime to r****m....you're not in the position to hoist yourselves up on any throne..that is my point.....


It's a proven fact that conservatives are more honest and law abiding than liberals.
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Mar 17, 2015 23:58:16   #
jack sequim wa wrote:
This is the article he is referring too, you have not yet replied too. I did not post empty conclusions as many people do, but provided imperical data arriving at conclusions.
The other article is more directed to atheist, and in your defense is ramblings of topic, but like I said more for atheist readers. Unlike this topic directly related to your post.



B****sheep, please explain this. I was sure to complete the math for readers, there is no way chance can explain this.




This is a specific prophecy in our time
Ezekiel’s Vision
of the Rebirth of Israel in 1948
Ezekiel’s prophecy of the rebirth of Israel in 1948 and its precise ful&#64257;llment in our generation on May 15, 1948 is one of the greatest ful&#64257;llments of Bible prophecy in history. Twenty-&#64257;ve centuries ago, while he was a s***e during the Babylonian Captivity, (606 – 536 BC), the Lord revealed to the prophet Ezekiel, the precise year – 1948 – when Israel would &#64257;nally be restored to the Promised Land.. The Jew’s eternal relationship to the Holy Land is a major theme of Bible prophecy. In the Bible, times were speci&#64257;ed in precise detail regarding the duration of the time when the Jews were to be exiled from the Promised Land and when God will allow them to return to the Holy Land.
The First Captivity – (Egyptian) – 430 years
The Lord prophesied to Abraham precisely when the Jews would return from Egypt from their First Captivity that lasted 430 years of captivity in Egypt (Genesis 15:13; Exodus 12:40-41).
The Second Captivity (Babylonian) – 70 years
Similarly, the Second Captivity of 70 years in Babylon, as prophesied in Jeremiah 25:11, ended precisely in 536 BC when the Jews returned to Jerusalem as decreed by the Persian king Cyrus the Great.
The Third Captivity (Worldwide) – 2520 years
The Scriptures contain numerous prophecies about the &#64257;nal return of the Jewish exiles to their Promised Land in the "last days." Ezekiel was taken to Babylon as a captive. Ezekiel was aware of Jeremiah’s prophecy (Jeremiah 25:11) that the Jew’s captivity in Babylon would last seventy years. However, Ezekiel received another prophecy concerning God’s judgment upon the Jew’s disobedience and the precise duration of the remaining Jewish exile from their Promised Land.
"This shall be a sign to the house of Israel. Lie thou also upon thy left side, and lay the iniquity of the house of Israel upon it: according to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon it thou shalt bear their iniquity. For I have laid upon thee the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days: so shalt thou bear the iniquity of the house of Israel. And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year" (Ezekiel 4:3-6).
As Ezekiel lay on his right side for a few hours for 390 days and then for 40 days on his right side the Jews in Babylon learned of God’s remarkable prophecy. God revealed that every day stood for one biblical year. Therefore, Israel would be punished for a period of 390 years plus an additional 40 years as a result of their disobedience to God’s commands, totaling 430 years. God declared that Israel would be punished by a worldwide exile for 430 years (390
+ 40 years = 430 years). However, as prophesied by Jeremiah, the seventy year long Babylonian Captivity, which began with Nebuchadnezzar’s capture of Jerusalem in 606 B.C., ended in the spring of 536 B.C., in the month Nisan (March/April), when only a small remnant of the Jews (42,360) returned to Jerusalem (Ezra 1:1-3) under the decree of Cyrus the Great.
However, the vast majority of the Jewish exiles chose to remain in the pagan Persian Empire as colonists and tradesmen. Naturally, most Jews who were born and had grown up in Babylon had little desire to leave their farms and businesses to return to a desolate Jewish homeland. Most Jews in Babylon did not repent of their r*******n against God and chose to remain in the pagan Babylonian Empire.
Out of God’s total decreed future punishment of 430 years for Israel's and Judah's sins (390 years plus 40 years = 430 years). First, we must deduct the 70 years of the Babylonian captivity, which Ezekiel and the Jewish exiles were already enduring, which ended in the spring of 536 B.C. Therefore: (430 years minus the 70 years in Babylon = 360 years). This indicates that a further period of 360 years of additional exile remained for the Jews following the end of the Babylonian Captivity in 536 B.C.
Ezekiel’s Prophecy of the End of Israel’s Exile
However, a careful study of the history of Israel cannot reveal any signi&#64257;cant event that corresponds to this period of 360 years of additional punishment, either at the end of the 430 years or at the end of the 360 years beginning from the end of the Babylonian Captivity in 536 BC. The majority (95%) of the Jews never returned from Babylon to Israel. In fact, even the minority of the 42,360 Jews (Ezra 2:64) who did return did so with very little faith or true repentance. Most of the Jewish exiles failed to repent of their spiritual r*******n against God and they chose to remain in pagan Babylon.
Ezekiel’s unusual prophecy revealed the precise duration of the Jewish exiles worldwide Diaspora and the actual time of their prophesied return to the Promised Land in May 15, 1948. The solution to this prophetic mystery was found in a divine principle revealed to Moses and recorded in Leviticus 26. In this chapter the Lord established de&#64257;nite promises and punishments for Israel based on Israel’s subsequent obedience or disobedience to His Divine commands. In four separate but repeated passages recorded in Leviticus 26, God warned Israel that: if, after being punished for her sins, she still failed to repent of her r*******n, the punishments previously declared by God would be multiplied seven times more (the number of divine completion).
Moses declared God’s Divine principle of judgment if the Jews would not repent from their sinful r*******n against God after already experiencing His Divine punishment: "And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins" (Leviticus 26:18; 26:21, 23-24, 27-
28). In other words, if Israel did not repent of her sins after enduring God’s initial prophesied
punishment; the punishments previously predicted would now be prolonged or multiplied seven times: The biblical record reveals that, tragically, even the 5 percent of the Jewish exiles who returned to Israel did not truly repent of their r*******n.
Therefore, according to the Divine principle of multiplying the previous Divinely declared punishment by seven times due to the Jew’s lack of repentance, God’s previously prophesied exile of 360 additional years to the unrepentant Jewish exiles, as recorded by Ezekiel, would now be multiplied seven times more (Ezekiel 4:4-6; Lev. 26:18).
360 years of Exile x 7 = 2,520 biblical years of additional Exile for the Jews
The Biblical-Prophetic Year of 360 Days
The length of a biblical – prophetic year is 360 days: not the 365.25 days of our modern Julian calendar solar year. In ancient biblical times, the Jewish year was a lunar-solar year, with 12 months of 30 days each, which contained only 360 days. The modern solar-calendar year contains 365.25 days. An article on Chronology in the Encyclopedia Britannica, states that Abraham continued to use the 360-day year of his Babylonian homeland when he migrated to Canaan.
The Genesis account of Noah's &#64258;ood con&#64257;rmed that the ancient peoples of the Middle East, including the Hebrews, used a lunar-solar year of only 360 days with 12 months of 30 days each. Genesis recorded that the &#64257;ve months from the beginning of the Flood on the 17th day of the second month till the day the Ark rested on dry land, on the 17th day of the seventh month, lasted precisely 150 days. The &#64257;ve months (30 days each) while the &#64258;ood waters prevailed con&#64257;rmed that the Bible used a 12 month year of 360 days. (Genesis 7:11; 8:3-4).
Sir Isaac Newton con&#64257;rmed that the ancient biblical year of the Hebrews, Babylonians, and Egyptians had only 360 days. Newton wrote in the Encyclopaedia Britannica (6th ed) that “all nations, before the just length of the solar year was known, … in making calendars for their festivals, they reckoned thirty days to a lunar month, and twelve lunar months to a year, taking the nearest round numbers, whence came the division of the ecliptic into 360 degrees.”
To understand the precise ful&#64257;llment of prophecy, we need to calculate using the biblical lunar year of 360 days. For example, in the book of Revelation John described the last three-and-one-half years of the seven year Tribulation period when the Antichrist will persecute the “woman” (Israel) as lasting precisely 1,260 days (Rev. 12:6). John also described this period as: “a time and times and half a time” (Rev. 12:14). A “time” equals a year of 360 days; “times” equals two years; and “half a time” equals half a year Similarly, “forty-two months” of 30 days each equals the same 1260 days (Rev. 13:5). The book of Revelation and Daniel’s prophecies (Dan. 7:25; 9:24-27; 12:7; 12:11) both con&#64257;rm that the biblical year contained 360 days.
Therefore, Ezekiel’s prophecy revealed that the Jew’s &#64257;nal restoration to their Promised Land would occur precisely 2,520 biblical years (of 360 days each) after the end of the Babylonian Captivity in the spring of 536 B.C.
The end of the captivity in Babylon, according to the Bible and other historical sources – including Flavius Josephus, occurred in the month of Nisan in the spring of 536 B.C. This date is the starting point for our calculations: 2,520 biblical years x 360 = 907,200 days. Converting this period of 907,200 days into our calendar year of 365.25 days: we divide the 907,200 days by 365.25 days and we calculate a total of 2,483.8 calendar or solar years. In these prophetic calculations we must keep in mind that there was only one year between Passover in 1 B.C. and the next Passover in A.D. l. Remember: There is NO Year Zero B.C.
Therefore, Ezekiel prophesied that the end of Israel's worldwide captivity would occur after a period of 2,483.8 calendar years had elapsed following the beginning of the prophesied period of the Jewish exile in the Spring of 536 B.C.


The calculation of the prophecy of
Israel’s rebirth in 1948

Babylonian Captivity ended spring of 536 BC
Plus
Israel’s exile (2520 biblical years)=2483.8
Calendar years
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End of third world captivity in may 15th,1948
2483.8
536.4
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1947.4

Minus 1 year (no year between 1 Ad and 1 BC
1948.4
The nation of Israel proclaimed on may 1948
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No amount of evidence will convince people like him. Reprobate minds.
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Mar 17, 2015 21:31:41   #
Loki wrote:
http://patriotvideos.net/man-finds-way-to-cook-bacon-that-will-offend-every-muslim-liberal-and-anti-gunner/


It would be even better if he was shooting Muslim terrorists, then stuffing the bacon into their mouths. But that would be a waste of some good bacon.
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Mar 17, 2015 21:17:05   #
B****sheep wrote:
That's how it is. In fact, that's how religions get spread. Look at Mohammedism, aka Islam. The guy was a warlord, so people feared and admired him and ate up the crap he spewed.

Christianity was developed and spread by the priests of the Roman gods. As it became more popular among the elite, the priests saw where their next embroidered robe was coming from and "converted" to Christianity, further embellishing it with favorite stories and festivities from their former religions to help bring along the faithful. This is historical fact.

People believe what they're told to believe. I like to think of it as a natural thirst for knowledge that lost it's way.
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Clueless.
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Mar 17, 2015 21:14:25   #
2bltap wrote:
I whole heartily agree. I sincerely hope the pending investigation into this spending by the asshole in the Oval Office will be one of final nails in his coffin.
ASSHOLE!!!

Semper Fi


He needs a stake through his heart first. And some garlic in his mouth. And just to make sure, cut his head off.
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Mar 17, 2015 21:11:41   #
grace scott wrote:
My stepdaughter's husband must have his Starbucks every morning. I can't wait to hear his comments on this.


Indeed. Keep us posted.
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Mar 17, 2015 21:09:09   #
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2015/03/11/obamas-military-navy-chaplain-forced-to-fight-for-his-career-because-of-christian-beliefs-185802
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Mar 17, 2015 20:44:34   #
mwdegutis wrote:
Nothing like being a freakin' liar. Schock resigned, he is not off to jail and he was NOT a member of the congressional Tea Party caucus. In fact RINO Schock attacked the Tea Party, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and Mike Lee indirectly by calling them the insane caucus. Sounds more like a lib to me.


Just goes to show...you can't polish a turd. Lol
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