Singularity wrote:
"If you're so near-sighted that you can't comprehend the danger of men being allowed access to women's restrooms then I can't help you."
What you don't understand is that FTM t*********rs often look like cis men... Hairy, musclar, androgenized whether or not they have had surgery to add a penis.
Your solution requires them to use the woman's restroom. So either way, we will have persons who are or appear to be full cis males going in the women's room.
Before all this hullaballoo, t***s people used the restroom that they outwardly appeared to require and were able to use the stalls with doors to attend to business without advertising their "packages." Showering might be a little trickier, but I have girl cousins who are so modest, they shower at school, with other female classmates WITH A TOWEL AROUND THEIR TORSOS!
So, reviewing, whichever way the law goes we will have some t***s people whose outward appearance suggests one g****r while their g*****lia belong to another g****r so we will have:
MTF t***ssexuals who look like a gorgeous cis woman but have a penis. Like Caitlyn Jenner. Will they have to pee in the boys room? Shower with your cis sons? That is what you are asking for. So when the boys get boners will that mean they are q***r?
FTM t***sexuals who look like Adonis, but have not had surgically changes made, you would require to use the women's room. Giving the appearance of ...GASP... men in the ladies room!
NO MATTER WHAT RULE YOU MAKE, THERE ARE FOUR TYPES OF PERSONS TO ACCOMODATE IN A BINARY BATHROOM/PRIVACY/ SAFETY SITUATION.
Your new suggestion does NOT WORK the way you imagine it will.
I AM NOT ARGUING THE RIGHT OR WRONG OF ANYONE HAVING A MODESTY OR PRIVACY OR SAFETY ISSUE. I AM SAYING IT IS A PERSONAL PROBLEM AND THE AVAILABILTY OF SINGLE OCCUPANCY OPTIONS FIXES EVERYONES PROBLEM.
It is not a liberal/conservative ISSUE. It is a practical problem that is solved, fairly and totally effectively, for everyone involved by the availability of single occupancy rooms.
Again, your solution still produces the exact scenario which you say is problematic, (Full grown, apparant MEN in little girls bathrooms) while increasing the danger to vulnerable t***ssexuals.
Single occupancy, (or in my opinion, private stalls in multiple use restroom and shower facilities to provide privacy for the g*****lia) fixes the problem for all.
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Let me get this straight....
T******s have always used the restroom to where they blend in the best, right? MTF t******s use the stall in the men's room. No problem.
This has been working just fine. It's a win-win for everybody. Don't ask, don't tell. Go in the stall in either restroom, do your business and we're all good here. And if there's a single-occupancy restroom available, use it for your convenience.
But NO, that's not good enough. Now, they insist on using the restroom of which they choose to identify themselves (even though nature, the hospital/birth certificate, God and 20-20 vision do not)...and by doing so, inconvenience EVERYBODY ELSE. Everybody else is about 99.9% of the population.
The point is, it's not about them. It's certainly not ALL about them. It's about the consequences of such a policy. It's the tail wagging the dog. No, it's the flea wagging the tail wagging the dog.
What YOU don't get is that women and girls are going to be scared to go into public restrooms if men are allowed in there. The new rule says that anyone who self-identifies as being the opposite sex can go to the restroom of their choice. Key words here are ANYONE WHO SELF-IDENTIFIES. That means any guy can go anywhere he wants without anyone stopping him. And after awhile, no one will even notice him going into the women's restroom...of which will make it easy for a pervert to prey on the innocent.
While single occupancy may solve the problem in some isolated cases, it creates another. And that problem is the long lines to the one single-occupancy restroom due to the fear that some pervert will be in the women's room. Happy now?
My solution: If my wife and/or daughter go into the restroom...I'm going with them to check stalls first, then stand at the door. All I have to do is claim that I identify as a woman and the world is my oyster.
I mean, why not. We have a white woman in black face claiming to identify as a black woman while sitting as the leader of an NAACP chapter out west. Everybody's fine with it.
We have Elizabeth Warren claiming to be an Indian when she's blonde and pale as alabaster. Everybody's fine with it.
We have Donald Trump claiming to be a conservative and a serious candidate for the POTUS. Everybody's fine with it.
In this progressive liberal fantasy world of make-believe, we can be wh**ever we claim to be!!!