Yes we many v**e that person in to office. The question is will that person do what we wish them to do or will they be bought out by some ones money.

Now that was funny.

The system of numbers can be called a t***h but it was an issue agreed on by people. There has been a general agreement on things we look at as being facts which we come to believe as t***h.

What I am talking about is when you are dealing with what people feel, think or believe. When you look at those type of issues it is a stretch to find or call some thing as being the t***h.

So I still say bottom line the t***h is what people want it to be. Not just some people but what most come to believe.

It is for the most part a play on words. I get what you are saying But I hear so much about people on this forum seeking t***h when in fact t***h is hard to find because people are just giving their feelings & what they believe as the t***h.

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My first thought was who wrote this & put your name on it.

But passed on that

You just showed me that you a able to but some good thoughts out here.

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Then I will put it this way:

Take this as some random thoughts.

Just how dose t***h stand on its own?
Who stands it there?

T***h is what we believe is the t***h.

We each seek our own t***h. So if we can not agree on what t***h is there is no t***h. There is just what each of us believes.

We may agree that some facts are true.

So then since we all have free will to believe what we want.
My beliefs don't have to be your beliefs. Nor do I need to except your beliefs. So unless we are both wrong there is no t***h in what we believe. If that is the case then the t***h lays elsewhere.

So all in all it seems to be that seeking the t***h is what the most want to call the t***h. Then change it to suit the situation.

If this post don't get your point across to some people just what hope is there to ever open some peoples minds.

The way this country is going we will have very little to say what will go on with a new world order.

Just how good is or country where at each turn of events there are more poor people.

The US has lost it's power & is in sad disarray. We are a country divided. As you can see with how things get said on this forum there is little hope of ever changing that fact.

We can get our act together & be United again or we can sit on our hands & wait for the rest of the world to tell us where to go. At that time our Constitution will just be a piece of paper.

Well if you pass that IQ test then not to many would fail.

The first line of my Post: "While I am for a one world government I sure don't want one with the expanded control over it from the monied interests."

If a small group like us on this forum can not find any agreement on how to solve our problems just how are we going to stop the one world government from being.

There is an ever increasing list of things that can go wrong.

The sad thing is we can never return to the more carefree days of our past.

Things may look better today but is that really so?

For the few to completely control the masses they need help of many from the masses in doing so.

The cost of keeping enough people from the masses happy to do the dirty work for them will not come cheap.

To always look for some one to go the work cheaper will mean sending a current worker back in to the masses as an unhappy person who may well find ways to get even.

To keep a mass of people doing the dirty work they will have to share the wealth with them or the system then in place will fail as this one is failing.

But I guess if you follow the thinking of many here they would be glad to wipe the backsides of the few.

More than once I have put a battery in my pocket with keys or change. They get hot. I don't do that any more.

This to me is an issue that should be on the top of our thoughts & posts.

For if we cannot come together as one in speaking out about the monied issues we will all be subjected to the wishes of them.

While I am for a one world government I sure don't want one with the expanded control over it from the monied interests.

If we are to survive the coming changes we as the average citizens of the US need to come together & look to using our voices & v**es as well as we can to fight for our rights as citizens.

We will not be able to stop it. But we need to to impart our support for the things that will save as much of our individual freedoms as we can.

As with most new ideas it is how things are carried out that make all the difference.

Urban sprawl is not the best use of much land.

How going about making the cities run better is of great importance to making life better for many.

I have been thinking about this issue for some time now.
I live in a city & work in maintaining housing.
I have to drive to different areas to work . Living in a northern city with the snow & ice damage to the streets & pipes breaking in the winter. The roads are full of potholes
The bus system is not good.

Cities every where are becoming more crowded & less livable.

The people are there now & the task is to make them more livable. Most people seem to like being around others.

Only though planing & zoning can we really make cities more livable.

What is needed is master planning of what & how cities need to change.

The best way to to that is to expand up rather than out.
To much space is set aside for cars.

If things were closer the need for cars & the space need for them will go down.

So I am all for putting more people in to less area & increasing the open areas around them.

The thing to do is think in cubic area instead of square area.
Lets have a master plan of just how many people with the services they need in to smaller area

Not that we would ever build it but to use as a guide line as the most that would ever be done.

There is a building 1/2 mile high now. Inter connect several buildings at various levels. Keep them as far apart as you can & still be connected.

Inter connect them completely at ground level. Add as many things need to be a complete city with all of the services needed.

Make sure that there is a generous area between other like groupings.

My thought is to look at it as using a cubic mile. It need not be square. There pack as many people in to it as possible.

It would only be used as a plan to see what is possible.

The ideas put down would be used in planing new cities or use ideas in adapting cities to the idea.

Buildings in cities need to be looked as being a utility.
Planning & control for the best results is important.

Now it is for us to see just how that can be done in the best interest for the most people. Just remember that it is happening any way.

I know many like to live a part from others but only by making it better for more people to live closer together will you ease the pressure from urban sprawl.