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Feb 10, 2014 10:47:27   #
Old_Gringo wrote:
Anything involving Soros is a definite turn off.


Well that evens things up.
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Feb 10, 2014 10:16:24   #
Old_Gringo wrote:
They can be more selective on whom they v**e for by vetting those on the b****t(s).


Well vetting for most of us is using the media which did its part in selecting the candidates or some blog or form that just echos
the media or disagrees with the media. Neither is a truly good way to get the best picture.

My vetting will stay with my gut feeling.

If the Koch brothers have any thing to say that will make my gut choice easy. Just go the other way.
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Feb 10, 2014 10:07:41   #
Retired669 wrote:
You must have missed this post Floyd. It's still on the main board. Make sure you look at the bottom link and see their plans at the big rally in may........



Attention all AMERICANS with functioning brain stems! This is our stand! We need everyone (that is possibly) able to attend! Congress is out of control and if we wait much longer to act, it'll be to late! Even if Facebook and other social media groups shut down our groups sites, we'll be there so PLEASE join our fight! AND SHARE THIS WITH EVERYONE YOU KNOW!

Join us in Washington, DC beginning on Friday, May 16th. "Operation American Spring", which will be a peaceful (NO WEAPONS ALLOWED!!!) "Constitutional Emergency Protest " against the lawlessness & abuses perpetrated by the President & Congress is set to begin then & continue "…as long as it takes to see Obama, Biden, Reid, McConnell, Boehner, Pelosi, and Attorney General Holder removed from office,” according to Col. Harry A. Riley, USA, Retired, who, along with at least one retired Army general, came up with the idea. The goal is 10 MILLION protesters & at last check 2 million have committed to be there so far. For more information, go to:

http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/2nd-top-military-man-calls-for-millions-…

OR

http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com
You must have missed this post Floyd. It's still o... (show quote)


Thank you I will give you my v**e if that is okay.
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Feb 10, 2014 09:59:11   #
pana wrote:
I encourage you to google my thread and you will see that the only other place it will pop up is under the name "pana8" That is me.
These are my words completely and your accusation that I plagiarized them indicates that you are not educated on the subject enough to imagine that someone here on this forum is advanced enough to understand what I have written. Thanks, I will take that as a compliment.


Go back & read that post again. It was said in a general way but having read what he stands for He didn't mean it as personal.

I would say that the three of us are pretty much on the same page on this issue.

I have you on my must read list.
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Feb 10, 2014 09:51:09   #
Retired669 wrote:
Is all this going to take place in May at the Take Our Country Back Rally or is it going to take place before then? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Just who are we or you going to take the country back from.

Who is taking what from whom?

Even on this forum we are split. Am I taking the country from you or are you taking it from me.

Well you can go to your rally but I will be here in my little corner of the country today tomorrow & hopefully for a while longer than that. I don't feel that I have to take any thing back. A few changes maybe.
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Feb 10, 2014 09:36:43   #
banjojack wrote:
Actually, not only the ones we elect, but the ones that are hired (appointed) by the ones we elect. I believe what you are saying, and I agree, is that it is hypocritical to blame Congress when "We the People" continue to re-elect them. The fault is ours.


Well don't be too harsh on the v**ers they just choose from those that are on the b****t. V**ers have very little input as to who they get to v**e for.
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Feb 10, 2014 09:31:17   #
pana wrote:
Please enlighten us with your knowledge, not just an un backed accusation.
I don't want to see a copy/paste plagiarized from someone who knows what they are talking about either. I will be checking it.
Lets see it. :roll:


I do not disagree with what you said. My remark to you was unfair. It was unfair because I was asking you to go the next step with the issue. A step that I or no one seems to want to take.

It has been said over & over again & nothing really has or will come of it unless some one is going to be charged with a crime.

Then it would be set down in a time line & facts collected.

Do you see that happening? I don't.

If a time line of dates was put in place one can have a better picture of who did what when, Then where to place the blame.

Are you going to do that? I will not waste my time doing it.
Nor dose there seem to be any firm action being planed to do that.

Most of us are playing against a stacked deck. I have lived with that & found a little corner that I can live in.

There are many on this forum that feel that what helps the 1% is just fine.

There is a lot of pointing of fingers to where there are problems. But no agreement as to just what causes the problems, nor the steps that need to be taken to solve them.

If a small group like we have on this forum can not come to an agreement as to what the real reasons behind our problems are we will have little hope in making things better.

Any how have a nice day.
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Feb 9, 2014 18:41:28   #
pana wrote:
The gov set in motion the end of this country when they repealed the Glass-Seagall Act in 1999 which kept commercial banks and investment banks separated.
The deregulation of the derivatives market followed. Soon fraud ran rampant and debt was leveraged to unreal levels.
Mortgage securitization was used to spread Wall Streets fraudulent "securities" around the world. Securitization allowed lenders to to issue mortgages for fees and sell the mortgages to third parties removing the risk of default from the lenders who then became less concerned about whether they could be paid back.
They then classified these mortgages into 3 groups AAA, B and high risk. The AA were picked up quickly by institutional investors and pension funds. The hedge funds picked up the high risk because of the larger returns due to risk. the B rated were harder to sell so they were again reclassified into the 3 groups again and the process was repeated again till they had fraudulently reclassified all the mortgages into sellable ratings.
But it gets worse. They paid the rating agencis to come up with they ratings they wanted.
With everyone focused on short term gains and the hedge funds with no intention to hold the high risks for long the fees to the ratings agencies continued so that they were able to sell off to other places that (Cyprus for one) who believed the ratings were valid. Thus creating the toxic waste.
Then another brilliant idea came into play that they could insure these mortgages (Jack Lew, Obamas secretary of Treasury, got rich betting against Americans being able to pay their mortgages) thus AIG got into the game and named it a credit default swap. It wasn't actually insurance since AIG didn't have to put aside any funds to cover any losses.
The mortgages became litered with subprime rate derivatives leveraging more money that was not covered. AIG was collecting fees for bets they could not cover basically to short sellers for a fee.
Short sellers borrowed from AIG the companies that they had inside info were going to have decreases in stock prices then sells them, waits for them to fall buys them back to give back to AIG and pocketed the difference.
Goldman Sachs being a big player in the game with their buys of the swaps tumbled rapidly when the housing market bottom dropped out. Thus TARP tax payer bail outs.
There was enormous proof of fraud and criminal acts , nothing was done and the casino system continues at a much grander scale.
Goldman Sachs response to the loses suffered by the American people was......Lord Griffin: "the public must learn to tolerate the ine******y as a way to achieve greater prosperity for all"
Thus the saying "let them eat cake being attached to the TBTF f'ing that the American people took.
Nothing has changed and the same people have advanced in their positions in the Obama admin to take more control and mess up more of our economy to benefit the 1%.
The gov set in motion the end of this country when... (show quote)


Perhaps when you state something it would be nice if you got the time line down right.
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Feb 9, 2014 18:26:46   #
Brian Devon wrote:
The Democrats do have better people than Hillary, with better resumes. They include Gov. Howard Dean, Gov. Jerry Brown and Senator Elizabeth Warren. Unfortunately none of them have shown the inclination to run. The liberal branch of the party, is prepared to compromise and back Hillary though she is hardly our first choice. Unlike the Republican party, we are not into forming a circular firing squad.


I thought well of Dean when he ran. There has not been much news from him lately.
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Feb 9, 2014 14:50:50   #
moose wrote:
Every time this president prints money without no gold backing it, it devaluates the dollar more and more. This is what he is doing.I dont know why the House dont stop him.They have the control of the purse strings. I wonder what a dollar is actually worth. 25 cents maybe?


Just what gives gold it's value. Is it really much difference than the way they decide the value of paper money?

There is only a limited amount of gold & there is not enough to be used in day to day trading. The value will vary from moment to moment just like the paper money varies day to day. the value of both being set by those in control of each.

We are along for the ride & we have to make up the difference that is short while others make a gain when value is gained or lost.
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Feb 9, 2014 03:30:23   #
Navysnipe wrote:
I've asked this question before. Why do police departments all across this country view innocent citizens as the enemy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-w9QuYRVE4


They have to see the things that are wrong not the things that are right.

Add to this that there are those that would do harm to policemen, which only makes them have more doubt about people out there
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Feb 9, 2014 03:22:18   #
IdahoIrishman wrote:
I would like to think that we can return America to greatness, but that would take a onerted effort on everyones part. Any suggestions?


Thanks for dropping by. Please share with us more of what you have to say.

I for one have let my thoughts dwell on what would be good for the world as a whole.

A person needs to be sure that when they seek something for them self that it causes no harm to others.
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Feb 9, 2014 03:11:52   #
rumitoid wrote:
A twenty year scientific inquiry just recently discovered the greatest, most long lasting and successful conspiracy ever. Since the first child of our species emerged from the womb, women have promulgated the legendary lie that labor hurts. In untold millennia of secrecy and collusion women have managed to keep secret not just the illusion labor is painful but hiding as well that it is actually highly pleasurable. A literal bomb shell and ammo for the Right. Rand Paul just named names: Wasserman, Pelosi, and whatshername (oh, my). Women, as the RNC suspected all along, are questionable at the least of basic integrity or a disposition toward it.
A twenty year scientific inquiry just recently dis... (show quote)



Well as the husband of a woman That has had 7 children & 1 still born. I opted to be out of the room when the delivery took place, so I can not attest to either issue on the pain or pleasure of birth. But I have always felt that there was some of both for my wife. She has never complained of the pain.
The children have always been a source of pleasure for both of us.
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Feb 9, 2014 02:55:40   #
Dave wrote:
Do you dispute this simple reality, no private employer can pay a wage above the value of the work performed (with the exception of the government that can use force in attaining revenues)?
What is about reality the people like you find impossible to understand?


Coming from those on the Right there is very little value in what most workers offer.

Things will never get better for the middle class as things you stand for keep making things worse for more people.

I have enough to live the life style that I have for the rest of my life.

At 77 I still go out & do things that need to be done. For what I do & what I charge there is no shortage of things for me to do.

As long as my legs carry me & my arms can move I will keep doing things for pay. I do get some pay just for being around.
My brain is still of some use.

But one thing that stands out to me is that fewer people having more control over things is not good for life.
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Feb 9, 2014 02:20:15   #
AuntiE wrote:
Is she really the best the Democrats can come up with? They are going to run a retread. Is there no one else. Wow..and they talk about Republicans.


People tend to stick with those they know rather than take a chance on an unknown.

Lets just say that I have a gut feeling that the winds that blow will favor a women being the next president.

Hilary is smart enough to say the right things to the right people at the right time. & you & I are not the ones she will be talking to.
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