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Jan 4, 2016 12:29:47   #
Trooper745 wrote:
Does anyone realize how terrible all of the Democrats, and most of the Republicans, that are now running for POTUS would look, if there had never been an Obama presidency? He lowered the bar for being POTUS to its lowest notch.


Trooper745: The bar lowered many years ago by the corruption in U.S. Congress increased after the ruling in 2010, by 5 Republican Justices majority in our U.S. Supreme Court in Citizens United V. FEC that has unleashed a torrent of Corporate $$$$ money in our political process unmatched by any campaign expenditure totals in U.S.A. history to hurt the poor and benefited the wealthiest only.
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Jan 4, 2016 09:14:14   #
cold iron wrote:
If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight? I guess these were things that the founding patriots were wondering too. Are we like they were or are we now weaker?

I am trying to put down on paper what many people are thinking, but are too cautious to express openly.

I hope it never comes to what he is advocating, but I can certainly see where the possibility exists.

God help us all if it ever does happen.
If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?

I feel a tremendous responsibility to write this article though I am a little apprehensive. Thinking about the possibility of rising up against our own government is a frightening thing for many of us. I am not Johnny Rambo and I will be the first to admit that I do not want to die. The reason I feel compelled to write this, however, is simply because I don’t think the average American is equipped with the facts. I feel that a lot of American citizens feel like they have no choice but to surrender their guns if the government comes for them. I blame traditional media sources for this mass brainwash and I carry the responsibility of all small independent bloggers to tell the t***h. So my focus today is to lay out your constitutional rights as an American, and let you decide what to do with those rights.

About a month ago I let the democracy word slip in a discussion with a fellow blogger. I know better. Americans have been conditioned to use this term. It’s not an accurate term and it never has been a correct term to describe our form of government. The t***h is that the United States of America is a constitutional republic. This is similar to a democracy because our representatives are selected by democratic e******ns, but ultimately our representatives are required to work within the framework of our constitution. In other words, even if 90% of Americans want something that goes against our founding principles, they have no right to call for a violation of constitutional rights.

If you are religious you might choose to think of it this way Say that members of your congregation decide that mass fornication is a good thing. Do they have the right to change the teachings of your God? The t***h is the t***h. It doesn’t matter how many people try to stray from it. Did I just compare our founders to God? In a way I did, but please note that I am not trying to insult anyone. For the purpose of the American Government our constitution and founders who wrote it are much like God is to believers. It is the law. It is indisputable.

Our founders did not want a democracy for they feared a true democracy was just as dangerous as a monarchy. The founders were highly educated people who were experienced in defending themselves against tyranny. They understood that the constitution could protect the people by limiting the power of anyone to work outside of it much better than a pure system of popularity. A system of checks and balances was set up to help limit corruption of government and also the potential for an immoral majority developing within the American People. We have forgotten in this country that we are ultimately ruled by a constitution.

Why is a democracy potentially just as dangerous as a monarchy? Let’s look at something that Benjamin Franklin said because it answers that question more fully and succinctly than I can.

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb v****g on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the v**e. -Benjamin Franklin

Even 230+ years ago our founders were perceptive enough to realize that democracy was a dangerous form of government. How so? Because the citizens of a country can become just as corrupt as any government. We have seen evidence of this throughout history. Ask Native Americans and African-Americans if this population can become corrupt.

I think in 2012 we are seeing evidence of what Franklin was trying to tell us. Just because a majority of people may support certain ideas it does not mean that those ideas are just. In simple terms, just because most Americans love our president and v**ed for him, it does not mean that he has the power to go against our constitutional rights.

Next I would like to review the text of the second amendment. It is very clear. This is the law of this land. So when Senator Feinstein or President Obama talk about taking your guns, you need to think about something. Are they honoring their sworn oath to uphold the constitution?

A well regulated M*****a, being necessary to the security of a free State , the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

This is a pretty clear statement. The fact is that it took 232 years for the Supreme Court to even rule on this amendment because it has never been successfully challenged. In 2008 a case of Columbia v. Heller the Supreme Court ruled that a handgun ban in Washington D.C. was unconstitutional. One also has to take this into consideration. The Supreme Court supports your right to own guns. If you want to research this decision further you can start here.

For those who try to debate the spirit of the 2nd amendment, they are truly no different from people who will try to take Biblical quotes out of context to try to support their immoral decisions. The founders were very clear on the intent of the 2nd amendment. Let me share a few quick quotes here:

The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. -Thomas Jefferson

Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable . . . the very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference they deserve a place of honor with all that is good. -George Washington

The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms. -Samuel Adams

I could find hundreds of quotes like these. This country was built on the right to bear arms. It was built on the rights of an individual to bear arms, regardless of what his government or neighbor happened to think. This is crystal clear. Ironically the people who voice their opinions against this right have their free speech protected by your guns. Without guns in this country, all other amendments become null and void, simply because we the People will lose our power of enforcement.

We need to keep this in mind as our representatives try to push gun bans. I don’t care if 99% of people are in support of gun bans (which is far from the case), it is a violation of our constitutional rights, plain and simple.

A constitutional republic protects the rights of the individual even when their ideas are very much in the minority. If I were the only person in America who believed in the 2nd amendment, I would still be within my rights to call upon it. You would all think I was insane and possibly celebrate if I was gunned down, but in the end I would be the only true American among us.

Our framers were very clear on this. If my government comes to take my guns, they are violating one of my constitutional rights that is covered by the 2nd amendment.

It is not my right, at that point, but my responsibility to respond in the name of liberty. What I am telling you is something that many are trying to soft sell, and many others have tried to avoid putting into print, but I am going to say it. The time for speaking in code is over.

If they come for our guns then it is our constitutional right to put them six feet under. You have the right to k**l any representative of this government who tries to tread on your liberty. I am thinking about self-defense and not talking about inciting a revolution. Re-read Jefferson ‘s quote. He talks about a last resort. I am not trying to start a Revolt, I am talking about self-defense. If the day for Revolution comes, when no peaceful options exist, we may have to talk about that as well. None of us wants to think about that, but please understand that a majority cannot take away your rights as an American citizen. Only you can choose to give up your rights. Also, may I point out that you will only get one chance at it. If you fail to defend your rights they will walk away with your guns and your last hope for America.

Congress could pass gun ban legislation by a 90%+ margin and it just would not matter. I think some people are very unclear on this. This is the reason we have a Supreme Court, and though I do not doubt that the Supreme Court can also become corrupt, in 2008 they got it right. They supported the constitution. It does not matter what the majority supports because America is not a democracy. A constitutional republic protects the rights of every single citizen, no matter what their elected servants say. A majority in America only matters when the constitution is not in play.

I just wrote what every believer in the constitution wants to say, and what every constitutional blogger needs to write. The t***h of the matter is that this type of speech is viewed as dangerous and radical or subversive, and it could gain me a world of trouble that I do not want. It is also the t***h. To make myself clear I will tell you again. If they come for your guns it is your right to use those guns against them and to k**l them. You are protected by our constitution.

Most of the articles I am reading on the subject are trying to give you clues without just coming out and saying it. I understand that because certain things in this country will get you on a list that you don’t want to be on. I may well be on that list. This blog is small and growing so I may not be there yet, but I have dreams. I also have my own list of subversives and anyone who attempts to deny my constitutional rights is on that list.

I am not the subversive here, it is the political representatives who are threatening to take away my inalienable rights. If they come to take my guns and I leave a few of them wounded or dead, and I somehow survive, I have zero doubt that I will spend a long time in prison and may face an execution. But I would much rather be a political prisoner than a s***e.

If I go down fighting then I was not fighting to harm these human beings. I was simply defending my liberty and yours. It is self-defense and it is what our country was built on. We won our freedom in self-defense. We would not be ruled by a tyrannical government in the 1770s and we will not be ruled in 2012 by a tyrannical government. There is no difference.

This is a case of right and wrong. As of now the 2nd amendment stands. It has never been repealed. They are not defending the constitution which they If Feinstein or Barack Husan have a problem with the constitution then they should be removed from office. have sworn an oath to protect. It is treasonous to say the least. They would likely say the same about me, but I have the constitution, the founders, and the supreme court on my side. They only have their inflated egos.

I am not writing this to incite people. I am writing this in hopes that somehow I can make a tiny difference. I have no idea how many of my neighbors have the will to defend their constitutional rights. 2%? 20%? I am afraid that 20% is a high number, unfortunately. When push comes to shove many people may give up and submit to being ruled. I believe that our government is banking on this.

I would hope that our officials come to realize that, regardless of our numbers, we still exist because they are calling Patriotic Americans to action. They are making us decide if we want to die free or submit to their rule. I cannot tell you where you should stand on that. I do know that it may make the difference between living a life of freedom or s***ery.

You must start thinking about this because I believe that the day is coming soon and I personally believe it has already been planned. Not all conspiracy theories are hogwash. They may throw down the gauntlet soon and my suggestion is that you prepare yourself to react.

I mean no disrespect to our elected officials but they need to understand that We the People will not be disarmed. If they proceed then it is they that are provoking us and we will act accordingly. We are within our rights to do so.

For those who are in support of taking the guns, you need to ask yourself a very important question, and I am not just talking about the politicians, because if you support them, you have chosen your side.

Are you willing to die to take my guns?
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Another stupid long post by a warmonger with no brain in "One Political Plaza"
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Jan 4, 2016 08:17:19   #
Harpooner1 wrote:
Well, you have to know "legacy" . Obama is by far the worst president I have ever seen. Carter was bad, very bad, Nixon was bad, as he made the EPA, but he managed the war in Vietnam.....Ehh, six of one , half dozen of the other...
But, through my eyes, these presidents spouted "A change in Washington".....At least that is how I recall. Obama? He said he would fundamentally t***sform America.....But, he loved America.....Forgive me if I haven't got the clue....But, you love something and then want to fundamentally change it? That may work for a barbecue brisket, but, not for a nation. If he loved his country, but had to change it, did he love his country? Even a hard core Obama v**er would, by now, say the man is a liar and a multi faced charlatan. This "man" thinks he lives in a bubble. i see and hear his speeches and they are so devoid of any substance....It is like listening to something on MTV and then you realize you kinda', sorta have to take it seriously because it's the president. Then you realize..."If this is the president.....We're fucked!, Dude"..
" Holy s**t!....I thought he was totally cool....Dude, he had the selfie video? " Dude, he had the interview with the black chick that was rolling in a tub of milk and froot loops...' that was so "cool"
Lighting up the White house in the rainbow colors....
He is so cool!
He is so cool we don't realize how screwed we are. And you think Hillary is a goo choice?
Ex pat is looking better and better!
Well, you have to know "legacy" . Obama ... (show quote)


Harpooner1: Nobody realized how screwed the U.S.A. are since 1968, with President NIXON, and no President can repair the economic catastrophe we have with the crooks majority in the U.S. Congress supported with torrent of $$$$ money paid by Corporations and the special interest to hurt the poor and help the wealthiest only.
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Jan 4, 2016 07:58:04   #
Trooper745 wrote:
Does anyone realize how terrible all of the Democrats, and most of the Republicans, that are now running for POTUS would look, if there had never been an Obama presidency? He lowered the bar for being POTUS to its lowest notch.


Trooper745: After 8 years with President BUSH anybody running for President looked better, with the crooks majority in the U.S. Congress President OBAMA can't do anything better to repair the economic catastrophe he inherited.
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Jan 2, 2016 10:43:35   #
cold iron wrote:
If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight? I guess these were things that the founding patriots were wondering too. Are we like they were or are we now weaker?

I am trying to put down on paper what many people are thinking, but are too cautious to express openly.

I hope it never comes to what he is advocating, but I can certainly see where the possibility exists.

God help us all if it ever does happen.
If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?

I feel a tremendous responsibility to write this article though I am a little apprehensive. Thinking about the possibility of rising up against our own government is a frightening thing for many of us. I am not Johnny Rambo and I will be the first to admit that I do not want to die. The reason I feel compelled to write this, however, is simply because I don’t think the average American is equipped with the facts. I feel that a lot of American citizens feel like they have no choice but to surrender their guns if the government comes for them. I blame traditional media sources for this mass brainwash and I carry the responsibility of all small independent bloggers to tell the t***h. So my focus today is to lay out your constitutional rights as an American, and let you decide what to do with those rights.

About a month ago I let the democracy word slip in a discussion with a fellow blogger. I know better. Americans have been conditioned to use this term. It’s not an accurate term and it never has been a correct term to describe our form of government. The t***h is that the United States of America is a constitutional republic. This is similar to a democracy because our representatives are selected by democratic e******ns, but ultimately our representatives are required to work within the framework of our constitution. In other words, even if 90% of Americans want something that goes against our founding principles, they have no right to call for a violation of constitutional rights.

If you are religious you might choose to think of it this way Say that members of your congregation decide that mass fornication is a good thing. Do they have the right to change the teachings of your God? The t***h is the t***h. It doesn’t matter how many people try to stray from it. Did I just compare our founders to God? In a way I did, but please note that I am not trying to insult anyone. For the purpose of the American Government our constitution and founders who wrote it are much like God is to believers. It is the law. It is indisputable.

Our founders did not want a democracy for they feared a true democracy was just as dangerous as a monarchy. The founders were highly educated people who were experienced in defending themselves against tyranny. They understood that the constitution could protect the people by limiting the power of anyone to work outside of it much better than a pure system of popularity. A system of checks and balances was set up to help limit corruption of government and also the potential for an immoral majority developing within the American People. We have forgotten in this country that we are ultimately ruled by a constitution.

Why is a democracy potentially just as dangerous as a monarchy? Let’s look at something that Benjamin Franklin said because it answers that question more fully and succinctly than I can.

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb v****g on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the v**e. -Benjamin Franklin

Even 230+ years ago our founders were perceptive enough to realize that democracy was a dangerous form of government. How so? Because the citizens of a country can become just as corrupt as any government. We have seen evidence of this throughout history. Ask Native Americans and African-Americans if this population can become corrupt.

I think in 2012 we are seeing evidence of what Franklin was trying to tell us. Just because a majority of people may support certain ideas it does not mean that those ideas are just. In simple terms, just because most Americans love our president and v**ed for him, it does not mean that he has the power to go against our constitutional rights.

Next I would like to review the text of the second amendment. It is very clear. This is the law of this land. So when Senator Feinstein or President Obama talk about taking your guns, you need to think about something. Are they honoring their sworn oath to uphold the constitution?

A well regulated M*****a, being necessary to the security of a free State , the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

This is a pretty clear statement. The fact is that it took 232 years for the Supreme Court to even rule on this amendment because it has never been successfully challenged. In 2008 a case of Columbia v. Heller the Supreme Court ruled that a handgun ban in Washington D.C. was unconstitutional. One also has to take this into consideration. The Supreme Court supports your right to own guns. If you want to research this decision further you can start here.

For those who try to debate the spirit of the 2nd amendment, they are truly no different from people who will try to take Biblical quotes out of context to try to support their immoral decisions. The founders were very clear on the intent of the 2nd amendment. Let me share a few quick quotes here:

The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. -Thomas Jefferson

Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable . . . the very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference they deserve a place of honor with all that is good. -George Washington

The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms. -Samuel Adams

I could find hundreds of quotes like these. This country was built on the right to bear arms. It was built on the rights of an individual to bear arms, regardless of what his government or neighbor happened to think. This is crystal clear. Ironically the people who voice their opinions against this right have their free speech protected by your guns. Without guns in this country, all other amendments become null and void, simply because we the People will lose our power of enforcement.

We need to keep this in mind as our representatives try to push gun bans. I don’t care if 99% of people are in support of gun bans (which is far from the case), it is a violation of our constitutional rights, plain and simple.

A constitutional republic protects the rights of the individual even when their ideas are very much in the minority. If I were the only person in America who believed in the 2nd amendment, I would still be within my rights to call upon it. You would all think I was insane and possibly celebrate if I was gunned down, but in the end I would be the only true American among us.

Our framers were very clear on this. If my government comes to take my guns, they are violating one of my constitutional rights that is covered by the 2nd amendment.

It is not my right, at that point, but my responsibility to respond in the name of liberty. What I am telling you is something that many are trying to soft sell, and many others have tried to avoid putting into print, but I am going to say it. The time for speaking in code is over.

If they come for our guns then it is our constitutional right to put them six feet under. You have the right to k**l any representative of this government who tries to tread on your liberty. I am thinking about self-defense and not talking about inciting a revolution. Re-read Jefferson ‘s quote. He talks about a last resort. I am not trying to start a Revolt, I am talking about self-defense. If the day for Revolution comes, when no peaceful options exist, we may have to talk about that as well. None of us wants to think about that, but please understand that a majority cannot take away your rights as an American citizen. Only you can choose to give up your rights. Also, may I point out that you will only get one chance at it. If you fail to defend your rights they will walk away with your guns and your last hope for America.

Congress could pass gun ban legislation by a 90%+ margin and it just would not matter. I think some people are very unclear on this. This is the reason we have a Supreme Court, and though I do not doubt that the Supreme Court can also become corrupt, in 2008 they got it right. They supported the constitution. It does not matter what the majority supports because America is not a democracy. A constitutional republic protects the rights of every single citizen, no matter what their elected servants say. A majority in America only matters when the constitution is not in play.

I just wrote what every believer in the constitution wants to say, and what every constitutional blogger needs to write. The t***h of the matter is that this type of speech is viewed as dangerous and radical or subversive, and it could gain me a world of trouble that I do not want. It is also the t***h. To make myself clear I will tell you again. If they come for your guns it is your right to use those guns against them and to k**l them. You are protected by our constitution.

Most of the articles I am reading on the subject are trying to give you clues without just coming out and saying it. I understand that because certain things in this country will get you on a list that you don’t want to be on. I may well be on that list. This blog is small and growing so I may not be there yet, but I have dreams. I also have my own list of subversives and anyone who attempts to deny my constitutional rights is on that list.

I am not the subversive here, it is the political representatives who are threatening to take away my inalienable rights. If they come to take my guns and I leave a few of them wounded or dead, and I somehow survive, I have zero doubt that I will spend a long time in prison and may face an execution. But I would much rather be a political prisoner than a s***e.

If I go down fighting then I was not fighting to harm these human beings. I was simply defending my liberty and yours. It is self-defense and it is what our country was built on. We won our freedom in self-defense. We would not be ruled by a tyrannical government in the 1770s and we will not be ruled in 2012 by a tyrannical government. There is no difference.

This is a case of right and wrong. As of now the 2nd amendment stands. It has never been repealed. They are not defending the constitution which they If Feinstein or Barack Husan have a problem with the constitution then they should be removed from office. have sworn an oath to protect. It is treasonous to say the least. They would likely say the same about me, but I have the constitution, the founders, and the supreme court on my side. They only have their inflated egos.

I am not writing this to incite people. I am writing this in hopes that somehow I can make a tiny difference. I have no idea how many of my neighbors have the will to defend their constitutional rights. 2%? 20%? I am afraid that 20% is a high number, unfortunately. When push comes to shove many people may give up and submit to being ruled. I believe that our government is banking on this.

I would hope that our officials come to realize that, regardless of our numbers, we still exist because they are calling Patriotic Americans to action. They are making us decide if we want to die free or submit to their rule. I cannot tell you where you should stand on that. I do know that it may make the difference between living a life of freedom or s***ery.

You must start thinking about this because I believe that the day is coming soon and I personally believe it has already been planned. Not all conspiracy theories are hogwash. They may throw down the gauntlet soon and my suggestion is that you prepare yourself to react.

I mean no disrespect to our elected officials but they need to understand that We the People will not be disarmed. If they proceed then it is they that are provoking us and we will act accordingly. We are within our rights to do so.

For those who are in support of taking the guns, you need to ask yourself a very important question, and I am not just talking about the politicians, because if you support them, you have chosen your side.

Are you willing to die to take my guns?
If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsi... (show quote)


cold iron: Nobody is coming to take your GUNS but we need now in U.S.A. a real gun control laws for the sale of military weapons used by crazy people to k**l innocent people in movies, schools, and shopping centers with impunity. The N.R.A. is a criminal enterprise.
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Jan 2, 2016 10:19:06   #
cold iron wrote:
If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight? I guess these were things that the founding patriots were wondering too. Are we like they were or are we now weaker?

I am trying to put down on paper what many people are thinking, but are too cautious to express openly.

I hope it never comes to what he is advocating, but I can certainly see where the possibility exists.

God help us all if it ever does happen.
If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?

I feel a tremendous responsibility to write this article though I am a little apprehensive. Thinking about the possibility of rising up against our own government is a frightening thing for many of us. I am not Johnny Rambo and I will be the first to admit that I do not want to die. The reason I feel compelled to write this, however, is simply because I don’t think the average American is equipped with the facts. I feel that a lot of American citizens feel like they have no choice but to surrender their guns if the government comes for them. I blame traditional media sources for this mass brainwash and I carry the responsibility of all small independent bloggers to tell the t***h. So my focus today is to lay out your constitutional rights as an American, and let you decide what to do with those rights.

About a month ago I let the democracy word slip in a discussion with a fellow blogger. I know better. Americans have been conditioned to use this term. It’s not an accurate term and it never has been a correct term to describe our form of government. The t***h is that the United States of America is a constitutional republic. This is similar to a democracy because our representatives are selected by democratic e******ns, but ultimately our representatives are required to work within the framework of our constitution. In other words, even if 90% of Americans want something that goes against our founding principles, they have no right to call for a violation of constitutional rights.

If you are religious you might choose to think of it this way Say that members of your congregation decide that mass fornication is a good thing. Do they have the right to change the teachings of your God? The t***h is the t***h. It doesn’t matter how many people try to stray from it. Did I just compare our founders to God? In a way I did, but please note that I am not trying to insult anyone. For the purpose of the American Government our constitution and founders who wrote it are much like God is to believers. It is the law. It is indisputable.

Our founders did not want a democracy for they feared a true democracy was just as dangerous as a monarchy. The founders were highly educated people who were experienced in defending themselves against tyranny. They understood that the constitution could protect the people by limiting the power of anyone to work outside of it much better than a pure system of popularity. A system of checks and balances was set up to help limit corruption of government and also the potential for an immoral majority developing within the American People. We have forgotten in this country that we are ultimately ruled by a constitution.

Why is a democracy potentially just as dangerous as a monarchy? Let’s look at something that Benjamin Franklin said because it answers that question more fully and succinctly than I can.

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb v****g on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the v**e. -Benjamin Franklin

Even 230+ years ago our founders were perceptive enough to realize that democracy was a dangerous form of government. How so? Because the citizens of a country can become just as corrupt as any government. We have seen evidence of this throughout history. Ask Native Americans and African-Americans if this population can become corrupt.

I think in 2012 we are seeing evidence of what Franklin was trying to tell us. Just because a majority of people may support certain ideas it does not mean that those ideas are just. In simple terms, just because most Americans love our president and v**ed for him, it does not mean that he has the power to go against our constitutional rights.

Next I would like to review the text of the second amendment. It is very clear. This is the law of this land. So when Senator Feinstein or President Obama talk about taking your guns, you need to think about something. Are they honoring their sworn oath to uphold the constitution?

A well regulated M*****a, being necessary to the security of a free State , the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

This is a pretty clear statement. The fact is that it took 232 years for the Supreme Court to even rule on this amendment because it has never been successfully challenged. In 2008 a case of Columbia v. Heller the Supreme Court ruled that a handgun ban in Washington D.C. was unconstitutional. One also has to take this into consideration. The Supreme Court supports your right to own guns. If you want to research this decision further you can start here.

For those who try to debate the spirit of the 2nd amendment, they are truly no different from people who will try to take Biblical quotes out of context to try to support their immoral decisions. The founders were very clear on the intent of the 2nd amendment. Let me share a few quick quotes here:

The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. -Thomas Jefferson

Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable . . . the very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference they deserve a place of honor with all that is good. -George Washington

The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms. -Samuel Adams

I could find hundreds of quotes like these. This country was built on the right to bear arms. It was built on the rights of an individual to bear arms, regardless of what his government or neighbor happened to think. This is crystal clear. Ironically the people who voice their opinions against this right have their free speech protected by your guns. Without guns in this country, all other amendments become null and void, simply because we the People will lose our power of enforcement.

We need to keep this in mind as our representatives try to push gun bans. I don’t care if 99% of people are in support of gun bans (which is far from the case), it is a violation of our constitutional rights, plain and simple.

A constitutional republic protects the rights of the individual even when their ideas are very much in the minority. If I were the only person in America who believed in the 2nd amendment, I would still be within my rights to call upon it. You would all think I was insane and possibly celebrate if I was gunned down, but in the end I would be the only true American among us.

Our framers were very clear on this. If my government comes to take my guns, they are violating one of my constitutional rights that is covered by the 2nd amendment.

It is not my right, at that point, but my responsibility to respond in the name of liberty. What I am telling you is something that many are trying to soft sell, and many others have tried to avoid putting into print, but I am going to say it. The time for speaking in code is over.

If they come for our guns then it is our constitutional right to put them six feet under. You have the right to k**l any representative of this government who tries to tread on your liberty. I am thinking about self-defense and not talking about inciting a revolution. Re-read Jefferson ‘s quote. He talks about a last resort. I am not trying to start a Revolt, I am talking about self-defense. If the day for Revolution comes, when no peaceful options exist, we may have to talk about that as well. None of us wants to think about that, but please understand that a majority cannot take away your rights as an American citizen. Only you can choose to give up your rights. Also, may I point out that you will only get one chance at it. If you fail to defend your rights they will walk away with your guns and your last hope for America.

Congress could pass gun ban legislation by a 90%+ margin and it just would not matter. I think some people are very unclear on this. This is the reason we have a Supreme Court, and though I do not doubt that the Supreme Court can also become corrupt, in 2008 they got it right. They supported the constitution. It does not matter what the majority supports because America is not a democracy. A constitutional republic protects the rights of every single citizen, no matter what their elected servants say. A majority in America only matters when the constitution is not in play.

I just wrote what every believer in the constitution wants to say, and what every constitutional blogger needs to write. The t***h of the matter is that this type of speech is viewed as dangerous and radical or subversive, and it could gain me a world of trouble that I do not want. It is also the t***h. To make myself clear I will tell you again. If they come for your guns it is your right to use those guns against them and to k**l them. You are protected by our constitution.

Most of the articles I am reading on the subject are trying to give you clues without just coming out and saying it. I understand that because certain things in this country will get you on a list that you don’t want to be on. I may well be on that list. This blog is small and growing so I may not be there yet, but I have dreams. I also have my own list of subversives and anyone who attempts to deny my constitutional rights is on that list.

I am not the subversive here, it is the political representatives who are threatening to take away my inalienable rights. If they come to take my guns and I leave a few of them wounded or dead, and I somehow survive, I have zero doubt that I will spend a long time in prison and may face an execution. But I would much rather be a political prisoner than a s***e.

If I go down fighting then I was not fighting to harm these human beings. I was simply defending my liberty and yours. It is self-defense and it is what our country was built on. We won our freedom in self-defense. We would not be ruled by a tyrannical government in the 1770s and we will not be ruled in 2012 by a tyrannical government. There is no difference.

This is a case of right and wrong. As of now the 2nd amendment stands. It has never been repealed. They are not defending the constitution which they If Feinstein or Barack Husan have a problem with the constitution then they should be removed from office. have sworn an oath to protect. It is treasonous to say the least. They would likely say the same about me, but I have the constitution, the founders, and the supreme court on my side. They only have their inflated egos.

I am not writing this to incite people. I am writing this in hopes that somehow I can make a tiny difference. I have no idea how many of my neighbors have the will to defend their constitutional rights. 2%? 20%? I am afraid that 20% is a high number, unfortunately. When push comes to shove many people may give up and submit to being ruled. I believe that our government is banking on this.

I would hope that our officials come to realize that, regardless of our numbers, we still exist because they are calling Patriotic Americans to action. They are making us decide if we want to die free or submit to their rule. I cannot tell you where you should stand on that. I do know that it may make the difference between living a life of freedom or s***ery.

You must start thinking about this because I believe that the day is coming soon and I personally believe it has already been planned. Not all conspiracy theories are hogwash. They may throw down the gauntlet soon and my suggestion is that you prepare yourself to react.

I mean no disrespect to our elected officials but they need to understand that We the People will not be disarmed. If they proceed then it is they that are provoking us and we will act accordingly. We are within our rights to do so.

For those who are in support of taking the guns, you need to ask yourself a very important question, and I am not just talking about the politicians, because if you support them, you have chosen your side.

Are you willing to die to take my guns?
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cold iron: Stop your stupid long posts in "One Political Plaza" nobody is coming to take your GUNS, but we need a better GUN control of military weapons to avoid the mass k*****g of innocent people in movies, schools, and shopping centers by crazy people, and the N.R.A. is a criminal. enterprise.
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Jan 1, 2016 18:16:01   #
thebigp wrote:
Top Supreme Court Justice Signs Off On Obama’s Impeachment For Treason--60jh.
According to recent reports, Chief Justice John Roberts might have signed off on Interpol to have Obama impeached on the grounds of multiple counts of treason.
The charges against our current President range from declaring war without the consent of Congress, to making several Executive Orders on gun control, to unilateral decisions regarding immigration, and many more.
According to a leaked document, Obama is guilty of the following crimes (that we know of):
1. Used Executive Privilege in regards to Fast & Furious gun running scandal. When Government misconduct is the concern Executive privilege is negated.
2. Issued 23 Executive Orders on gun control – infringement of the 2nd Amendment.
3. Executive Order bypassing Congress on immigration – Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress.
4. NDAA – Section 1021. Due process Rights negated. Violation of 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Amendments. White House: ‘War on terrorism’ is over Thursday, August 6, 2009
5. Executive Order 13603 NDRP – Government can seize anything.
6. Executive Order 13524 – Gives INTERPOL jurisdiction on American soil beyond law enforcement agencies, including the FBI.
7. Executive Order 13636 Infrastructure Cyber security – Bypassing Congress
Violations: Article 1 Section 1, Art. 4 sect. 4,
8. Signed into law the establishment of “NO Free Speech Zones” – noncompliance is a felony.
9. Attempt to tax political contributions
10. Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) Law – Obama directed DOJ ( Dept. of Justice ) to ignore the Constitution and separation of powers and not enforce the law.
11. Drone strikes on American Citizens – 5th Amendment Due process Rights negated.
Article II Section 2. The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the M*****a of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
12. Bypassed Congress and gave EPA power to advance Cap-n-Trade
13. Attempt for Graphic tobacco warnings (under appeal) –
14. Four Executive appointments – Senate was NOT in recess (Court has ruled unconstitutional yet the appointees still remain)
15. Obama took Chairmanship of UN Security Council –
16. Obamacare ( A.C.A. ) mandate – SCOTUS (U.S. SupremeCourt ) had to make it a tax because there is no Constitutional authority.
17. Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:–”I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
18. Healthcare waivers – No president has dispensing powers
19. Refuses to acknowledge state’s 10th Amendment rights to nullify Obamacare ( Affordable Care Act ) .
20. Congress did not approve Obama’s war in Libya. Article I, Section 8, First illegal war U.S. has engaged in. Impeachable under Article II, Section 4. Obama falsely claims UN can usurp Congressional war powers.
Violations: Article I, Section 8, Art.2 sect. 1
21. Obama has acted outside the constitutional power given him – this in itself is unconstitutional.
Violations: Art. 2 sect 1
22. With the approval of Obama, the NSA and the FBI are tapping directly into the servers of 9 internet companies to gain access to emails, video/audio, photos, documents, etc.
23. Plans to sign U.N. Firearms treaty – 2nd Amendment.
24. The Senate/Obama immigration bill (approved by both) raises revenue – Section 7. All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives;
25. Obama refuses to uphold the Business Mandate Law (ACA) for a year. President does not have that authority
source--american admin, american column,
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thebigp: Please stop your bull....sh.... posts in "One Political Plaza" attacking President OBAMA. The 5 Republican Justices majority in our U.S. Supreme Court and the GOP majority in U.S. Congress are legally, and morally responsible for the political corruption in U.S.A. and can't do anything against Obama, you understand.
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Jan 1, 2016 10:18:00   #
Elwood wrote:
http://teapartyjournal.com/hilarious-the-constitution-strikes-back-new-video-casts-this-gop-candidate-in-star-wars-like-battle/

I think that Ted would make as great VP for Trump. Quite a creative ad. :lol: :lol:


Elwood: President Trump, and Vice-President Ted Cruz will be great for U.S.A. in 2017, like Hitler and Musolinni back together.
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Jan 1, 2016 09:58:58   #
no propaganda please wrote:
Unfortunately Hillary would be as bad if not worse. I think she would be worse because she has even more connections, and is a superior manipulator. Both, in my opinion, have their socialist-c*******t connections and know how to blackmail people into doing what they want, but Hillary has much more insight into how to get what she wants. And of course the number of people who "are no longer with us" because they crossed the Clintons is much larger than the Obama list.


no propaganda: Hilllary Clinton is bad but no worse than former President George W. Bush Jr. and the majority crooks members of U.S. Congress who did nothing to repair the U.S. economic catastrophe President OBAMA inherited in 2009.
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Jan 1, 2016 09:47:58   #
Liberty Tree wrote:
The NSA has been caught spying on members of Congress in its attempt to spy on the PM of Israel.

The State Department failed to meet the end of the year court mandate on release of Clinton emails. The ones released have been redacted (you know, purged of anything incriminating about Hillary and Obama).
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Obama plans to once again exceed his Constitutional authority through Executive Orders to implement more gun control that will do nothing to hinder criminal activity but just affect law abiding citizens.
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Liberty Tree: NSA is spying crooks members of U.S. Congress on the PM of Israel, the State Department failed to release Hillary Clinton private e-mails, and President OBAMA exceeded his Constitutional authority with executive orders to implement more GUN control that affect warmongers law abiding citizens, the same bull....sh.... repeated again and again in "One Political Plaza" by right wing nuts conservatives fanatics who has nothing better to do. God Bless the U.S.A.
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Dec 31, 2015 01:09:16   #
Dave wrote:
Here's a prime example of the difference - but don't worry - if Obamacare isn't thrown out you too will have the benefit of socialized medicine like the Canadians with but one difference - you won't have the option of going to a neighboring country



SYRACUSE TO CANADA:

COME FOR THE SURGERY, STAY FOR THE SHOPPING

LOCAL HOSPITALS WANT TO LURE CANADIANS WEARY OF LONG WAITS FOR MEDICAL PROCEDURES

By James T. Mulder

jmulder@syracuse.com

Local hospitals and doctors would like to hawk their services to Canadians weary of waiting months in their country for knee replacement surgeries, colonoscopies, cancer treatment and other medical procedures.

Canadians get most of their medical care for free through their government’s health care system. But the waits are growing longer because of a doctor shortage and overcrowded clinics and emergency rooms.

The median wait time to see a specialist in Canada is 18.3 weeks, up from 9.3 weeks in 1993, according to the Fraser Institute, a Canadian research group.

Ontario residents wait an average of nine months for a knee replacement or other orthopedic surgery. In Syracuse, the same operation can be had in a few weeks.

The University Hill Corp., a Syracuse nonprofit planning and development organization that represents hospitals and academic institutions, hopes to exploit that difference. The group hired Electric Strategies, an Ontario consulting firm, which concluded that Syracuse may be able to lure a significant number of Eastern Ontario’s 2 million medical consumers who are only a 3½- to 4½-hour drive away.

As many as 900,000 Ontarians are experiencing problems accessing medical care, a problem that is expected to worsen and send more of them across the border for health care, according to the report.

“We know there is a demand and it’s a market we can go after,” said David Mankiewicz, president of the University Hill Corp.

“We’re trying to see if we can drive those numbers up and get more patients here.”

University Hill Corp. is working with Visit Syracuse, formerly known as the Syracuse Convention & Visitors Bureau, on the medical tourism project.

The hospital bill alone for knee replacement surgery in Syracuse can be $20,000 or more. Are there enough Canadians who can afford to pay out of pocket for big

SYRACUSE, PAGE A-12

Dr. Michael Wiese performs a left hip arthroscopy on a patient at Crouse Hospital. Kate Sears, RN, is in the foreground. Syracuse hospitals and doctors are hoping to lure Canadians for surgery and other medical procedures rather than face long waits — up to 9 months — for treatment in their own country.

(Ellen M. Blalock |

eblalock@Ssyracuse . com)
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Dave: The Medical Care in U.S.A. is a monopoly with cost increased 16% per year managed like "MAFIA" business, and the H.M.Os provide a poor Medical care compare to the Medical care in U.K, France (the best), Germany, Taiwan, Japan, Spain, and Scandinavian countries. We need in U.S.A. a single payer Medical care with cost control like "Medicare" for all regardless the individual income.
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Dec 30, 2015 10:32:26   #
eagleye13 wrote:
Tea Party Declares WAR on Speaker Paul Ryan

The $1.1 trillion Obama-Ryan budget will result in another deficit of over $400 billion dollars, with expenditures and grant programs for every special interest group lined up at the federal trough.

Paul Ryan has made his intentions clear: he represents his own self-absorbed interests, not the interests of We the People.

You know what we say to that:

Send your PINK SLIP message to every Member of Congress today:

"HOUSE SPEAKER PAUL RYAN YOU ARE FIRED!"

>>LIST OF F**GRANT VIOLATIONS<<

[X] Ryan's Omnibus bill will allow for a staggering 300,000 MORE Muslim migrants to enter the U.S. Every year.

[X] Paul Ryan REFUSED to defund ANY of Obama's unconstitutional executive actions.

[X] The bill gives $1.6 BILLION in handouts for i*****l a***ns.

[X] Per Obama's request, Paul Ryan removed from the bill the ban on funding of Planned Parenthood, a prohibition of EPA's unconstitutional expansion of carbon emission rules never authorized by Congress, and a rollback of Obama's takeover of local zoning under an illegal expansion of the Fair Housing Act.

[X] It keeps in place almost ALL of the subsidies and slush funds of the prior budget, like the 30% solar energy investment tax credit, tax breaks for race horses and film productions, while dropping over 150 restrictions on spending that were in the House-passed budget resolution.

[X] The bill Gives a death sentence to American workers by expanding the number of low-wage workers brought into the country as guest workers... guest workers who never go home because no one is enforcing their visa expiration dates!

Paul Ryan wants his weekends free? Fine, let's give him all 365 days! For just $29.95 you can send a PINK SLIP to Congress putting them on notice: "Fire House Speaker Paul Ryan NOW OR WE'RE KICKING YOU OUT!" We guarantee that your message gets delivered directly into each and every office of the House and Senate.

We cannot allow these politicians to stand and lie to us in this matter. Paul Ryan has broken every promise he made and for that he must pay the political price.

Democratic leaders are unanimous in declaring a complete victory over House Speaker Paul Ryan and his close allies, who wrote the $1.1 trillion omnibus budget without asking House conservatives for any input -- or even for some public objections to help their closed-door negotiations.

Democrat's were seen Dancing, Gloat, Declaring Speaker Paul Ryan 'Gave Away The Store'.

"Almost anything, the Republican leadership in the Senate achieved this year, they achieved on Democratic terms... Democrats had an amazingly good year." - Chuck Schumer

"We passed the best possible, under the circumstances, appropriations bill... the Republicans' obsession with lifting the oil-export ban, they really gave away the store. Democrats were able to strip scores and scores of poison pills, destructive poison pills, some of which they had to have, which they ended up with not having... it is a monumental improvement... - Nancy Pelosi

Here's what your PINK SLIP looks like:


Had Enough? Sellout Repubocrats like Paul Ryan Must be Defeated!
Tea Party Declares WAR on Speaker Paul Ryan br br... (show quote)


eagleye13: It's the "Tea Party" fanatics, right wing nuts, greedy, antisocial, and prejudices who are destroying the Republican party of A. Lincoln to benefit the Corporations and wealthiest Americans only. Stop your stupid posts in "One Political Plaza".
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Dec 29, 2015 11:50:13   #
eagleye13 wrote:
Tea Party Declares WAR on Speaker Paul Ryan

The $1.1 trillion Obama-Ryan budget will result in another deficit of over $400 billion dollars, with expenditures and grant programs for every special interest group lined up at the federal trough.

Paul Ryan has made his intentions clear: he represents his own self-absorbed interests, not the interests of We the People.

You know what we say to that:

Send your PINK SLIP message to every Member of Congress today:

"HOUSE SPEAKER PAUL RYAN YOU ARE FIRED!"

>>LIST OF F**GRANT VIOLATIONS<<

[X] Ryan's Omnibus bill will allow for a staggering 300,000 MORE Muslim migrants to enter the U.S. Every year.

[X] Paul Ryan REFUSED to defund ANY of Obama's unconstitutional executive actions.

[X] The bill gives $1.6 BILLION in handouts for i*****l a***ns.

[X] Per Obama's request, Paul Ryan removed from the bill the ban on funding of Planned Parenthood, a prohibition of EPA's unconstitutional expansion of carbon emission rules never authorized by Congress, and a rollback of Obama's takeover of local zoning under an illegal expansion of the Fair Housing Act.

[X] It keeps in place almost ALL of the subsidies and slush funds of the prior budget, like the 30% solar energy investment tax credit, tax breaks for race horses and film productions, while dropping over 150 restrictions on spending that were in the House-passed budget resolution.

[X] The bill Gives a death sentence to American workers by expanding the number of low-wage workers brought into the country as guest workers... guest workers who never go home because no one is enforcing their visa expiration dates!

Paul Ryan wants his weekends free? Fine, let's give him all 365 days! For just $29.95 you can send a PINK SLIP to Congress putting them on notice: "Fire House Speaker Paul Ryan NOW OR WE'RE KICKING YOU OUT!" We guarantee that your message gets delivered directly into each and every office of the House and Senate.

We cannot allow these politicians to stand and lie to us in this matter. Paul Ryan has broken every promise he made and for that he must pay the political price.

Democratic leaders are unanimous in declaring a complete victory over House Speaker Paul Ryan and his close allies, who wrote the $1.1 trillion omnibus budget without asking House conservatives for any input -- or even for some public objections to help their closed-door negotiations.

Democrat's were seen Dancing, Gloat, Declaring Speaker Paul Ryan 'Gave Away The Store'.

"Almost anything, the Republican leadership in the Senate achieved this year, they achieved on Democratic terms... Democrats had an amazingly good year." - Chuck Schumer

"We passed the best possible, under the circumstances, appropriations bill... the Republicans' obsession with lifting the oil-export ban, they really gave away the store. Democrats were able to strip scores and scores of poison pills, destructive poison pills, some of which they had to have, which they ended up with not having... it is a monumental improvement... - Nancy Pelosi

Here's what your PINK SLIP looks like:


Had Enough? Sellout Repubocrats like Paul Ryan Must be Defeated!
Tea Party Declares WAR on Speaker Paul Ryan br br... (show quote)


eagleye13: The "Tea Party" members of U.S. Congress are the troublemakers, greedy, antisocial and prejudice conservatives who are ruining the U.S.A. complaining about the Federal Government deficit and expending but they didn't mentioned that the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank is printing daily f**e $$$$ dollars paper to paid for the Federal debts, and the salaries, and cost of living increases of 535 members of U.S. Congress who do nothing to repair our economic catastrophe, and stop the $$$$ printing press.
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Dec 29, 2015 09:52:12   #
Kevyn wrote:
Look, many of Trump’s supporters are working-class people and they’re angry, and they’re angry because they’re working longer hours for lower wages, they’re angry because their jobs have left this country and gone to China or other low-wage countries, they’re angry because they can’t afford to send their kids to college so they can’t retire with dignity.

I think what Trump has done successfully I would say is take that anger, take that anxiety about terrorism and say to a lot of people in this country. Look, the reason for our problems is Mexicans, and he says, they’re all criminals and rapists. We’ve got to h**e Mexicans. Or he says about the Muslims, they’re all terrorists. We’ve got to keep them out of the country. That’s what we have to deal with to make America great.


Meanwhile, interestingly enough, John, this is a guy who does not want to raise the minimum wage. In fact, he has said that he thinks wages in America are too high. But he does want to give hundreds of billions of dollars in tax breaks to top three-tenths of one percent.

So, I think for his working class and middle class supporters, I think we can make the case that if we really want to address the issues that people are concerned about why the middle class is disappearing, massive income and wealth ine******y in this country that we need policies that bring us together that take on the greed of Wall Street, the greed of corporate America, and create a middle class that works for all of us rather than an economy that works just for a few.

Sen. Sanders pointed out that Donald Trump is a total fraud. The contradiction in the Trump campaign is that the people he is getting his support from are the same folks who would be hurt by his policies.

Donald Trump is a f**e. Nobody ever asks him what he means when he talks about making America great. Who does Trump want to make America great for? His few policy ideas suggest that Trump is only interested in making America great for himself and his fellow billionaires. Trump’s definition of greatness is that rich white men like himself get more, and working people get less.

Sen. Sanders also made a classic liberal mistake. He assumed that he had a chance to sway Trump’s supporters based on economic interests. Working class Republicans have consistently demonstrated that they will v**e against their own economic interests in every e******n. Republicans don’t v**e for a candidate based on facts or economic self-interest. They v**e based on a belief system and ideology. The Republicans who support Trump don’t care that he is planning to economically screw them over.

They want to be “winners,” and Trump has promised them victory.

Donald Trump supporters will never v**e for Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton, but what Sanders said was important because v**ers who don’t pay much attention to politics must be educated about who Trump is and what he really stands for. Bernie Sanders ripped the mask off Trump to reveal that the Republican front-runner is nothing more that Mitt Romney with a healthy dose of r****m and bigotry and more money.
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Kevyn: You are right 100%, Donald Trump is an egomaniac, narcissist, gold digger who only care about himself, like Hitler in Germany, and Mousolinni in Italy before WW-II.
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Dec 29, 2015 09:34:30   #
Chameleon12 wrote:
Do away with Obamacare and put Hospital organizations in charge of making a new health system.


Chameleon12: If we do away with "ACA" Obamacare, Medicare, Medicaid and U.S. Government intervention in our Medical Care the crooks will manipulate the system for their own $$$$ benefit and the majority American people will die on arrival, and only the wealthiest will have Medical care.
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