I'll go back to my original point...

There are multiple ways for someone to be considered a "natural born" US citizen. One only needs to match one of those various scenarios to be considered "natural born", not multiple ones.

If either birth parent is a US citizen, their children are considered "natural born" citizens regardless of where they were physically located at the moment of their birth. There is no requirement for both to be US citizens at the time.

Ted Cruz was born of a US citizen mother living in Canada at the time. His father was NOT a citizen at the time of his birth, but rather a citizen of Cuba.

Canada also considers anyone both on their soil to be "natural born" Canadian citizens, just as the US does. For that reason Senator Ted Cruz is actually a dual citizen... US and Canadian... This does not disqualify him from running for POTUS. He has stated he would "renounce" his Canadian citizenship, so that he was solely considered a US citizen...

It really is that simple folks... I have no idea how something this ridiculous could have legs for over 5 years now... Honestly, of the hundreds of fabrications and red herrings to stoke your outrage... can't you all just drop this one???

I mean you have plenty of others... But this should make you question some of those "other" equally baseless accusations as well... but of course, we'll have to go over every single one of them and post irrefutable documentation proving they are nonsense as well.

At some point, I just don't understand how you fail to see you've been fed a bunch of.... (What did Vice President Biden call it???) Malarkey??? LOL...

Seriously... I'm not trying to bash anyone, but it really is astonishing to see how effective some have been in confusing such a significant portion of our population.

It is particularly shocking because most of you who hold these misconceptions didn't come to that conclusion on your own. Most of you are extremely skeptical of anything you hear word of mouth, yet a stunning number of very fine people have been angered to the point of wanting to impeach, or take drastic action to correct what you perceive as a serious injustice...

It is a coordinated effort to spread these lies... It is spread by talk radio, Entertainment "News" channels, unaccountable web sites, h**eful email messages, and then the actual political pundits, leaders and legislators (on both sides)themselves. I'm not saying it doesn't happen the other way as well (Democrats smearing Republicans unjustly in some cases), but there is hardly "equivalence" here folks...

Maybe it's just because Republicans aren't in control of the White House... but there seems to be a bit more to it than that.

Larry,

Could you please cite your source of that legal status? I don't believe your interpretation is actual law. It is clearly not defined at all in the Constitution.

By your yardstick, you are stating that Senator Ted Cruz is definitely unable to run for POTUS... which he will contend he is. As much as I would like to see him declared ineligible to run, I'm afraid it's just wishful thinking on my part!

:lol:

You can't have it both ways... I'm fairly certain current law and interpretation of the qualifications to hold the highest office allow Mr. Cruz to hold the office, and is the reason that these endless witch hunts over the President's birth certificate are meaningless...

As far as the "Mexicans" you are talking about... it has been the law for as long as I remember that anyone who is born on U.S. soil is a U.S. citizen by birth period... This is why many pregnant women from many nations try to make trips to the U.S. at the "right" time... Anchor babies...

This doesn't have to mean i*****l i*******ts... Many get a legal Visa to visit during their late pregnancy. As "natural born" U.S. citizens... these children are then in a position to act as sponsors to help obtain citizenship for their parents...

They are a private equity investment fund group. I am not aware of any political involvement of the firm overall. While they or their members have likely made some political contributions, I am not aware of any overt actions on their behalf.

If you are address me... Yes, I really believe what I wrote...and I don't consider myself particularly gullible...

Can you please be more specific about you consider "tripe"?

First of all, let me apologize for incorrectly using the word naturalized vs. natural born in my earlier responses.

However, what I meant was exactly what was written in the Constitution as quoted by others.

The simple fact is that nowhere else in the Constitution is the term "natural born citizen" used. There is no legal description of the term anywhere in the Constitution itself or in any of the other documents written or discussed during the time the Constitution was being drafted or ratified.
That being said, the topic has been long discussed and examined even prior to Barack Obama even being a Senator.

What IS clear is that no one who was born a citizen of another Country and gone through the legal process to obtain U.S. citizenship is eligable to hold the office of POTUS. No one has ever claimed that is the case for President Obama.

I joined this forum because I thought it was perhaps different from the many other forums and had a higher level of honest discussion about important issues we currently face.

I see instead it's pretty much the same as others with an endless barrage of shallow insults and harping on topics such as this that extremists have been spun up over.

You should realize that most of this sort of stuff is intentionally started to anger and distract the general population to prevent action on the real issues we face. I only commented on the thread because quite frankly I couldn't believe people were still beating this dead horse...

It is true that both major parties have engaged with less than factual accusations to create confusion, but it has been used at a level I've never seen in my lifetime (63 years) by the Republican Party of today. I've been a registered Republican most of my life. I've v**ed for both Democratic and Republican candidates at all levels, including President over the years. But I no longer recognize what the Republican Party has become, and it is clear to me that I want no part of it, until they return to a more moderate and sensible position.

This seems to have begun in earnest during President G W Bush's first term and has now reached such a level that far too many Americans have been spun into such a level of rage as to lose all perspective of the realities of our current situation.

We have serious economic issues to deal with. We have civil liberty issues to deal with, we have serious educational issues to deal with and we need to face the reality that we already have too many laws on the books that attempt to impose some sort of moral framework based on an ever increasingly intolerant view of others.

Sadly the energy and v**es to allow the inaction or misdirected action in the case of increasingly intolerant laws, is coming from good, decent people who have been energized by this flood of lies and misinformation.

We have a level of incarceration that is astonishing! This is supposed to be the Country of individual liberty and freedom! Why to we need to jail and execute more people that any other civilized Nation?

It is so ironic to me to see so many Tea Party supporters claiming to be the only "true" Patriots, the only "true" Americans, yet they support the passing of laws that further reduce individual freedom or choice, all the while blocking any actions to address the serious issues that threaten our economy and ability to compete in the global market/economy.

Let me be clear...there are many fine people who call themselves Republicans...there are still some good politicans who are still part of the Republican Party. We NEED a sensible Republican Party to actively engage in sensible compromise to help keep our political direction reflective of a broader perspective of our population... But we don't need wh**ever it is the leaders of the current Republican Party have become.

It seems the most vocal and extremists minority elements have taken over the Party and will continue to bring them down until the majority of its members wake up to the distractions they are being inundated with (like this birth certificate nonsense), and demand their elected representatives return to sensible actions on all our behalfs.

Is there some dispute that President Obama's father was from Kenya? Again, what difference does that make??? If either of his parents was a U.S. citizen at the time, or even if neither were and he was born on U.S. soil... he meets the requirement. So to "prove" that President Obama is not legally qualified to hold the office of POTUS, you need to prove he not only was not born on U.S. soil, you need to prove that NEITHER of his birth parents were U.S. citizens at the time...

Reganite/OldSchool...

1) Do you believe President Obama's mother is the woman claimed to be his birth mother?

2) If so, do you believe she was a U.S. citizen at the time?

If the answer to those two questions is "yes"... then what difference where President Obama was actually born make???

He could have been born on the International Space Station if the answers to those two questions is yes, and he would still be a naturalized U.S. citizen and therefore eligible to hold the office of POTUS...

If the answers to those two questions is "no"... then please elaborate who all these fighters for t***h and justice believe is his real mother...

I haven't seen a single one of you detail than part of your conspiracy...

Does it not seem completely implausible to you that a Country pretty much dominated by Caucasian people since it's inception, would allow someone who is not qualified to serve the most important political position in the world, to just run for office without being absolutely certain he was legally qualified to do so?

The man has twice won e******n by a true majority of v**ers... it seems quite clear that the majority of Americans both feel he is legally qualified to hold the office, but also prefer him to the pathetic choices we have been presented with from the other Party...

I might have considered v****g for John McCain until he picked the dimwitted Governor of Alaska to be his running mate. The thought of that clueless bimbo being a heartbeat way from running this Country made it an unrealistic campaign... Mitt Romney??? Who on earth knows what the man really believes or stands for? I will NOT v**e for someone who changes his position every time he talks and to every group he talks to... always pandering and saying what he "thinks" that group "wants to hear"... Just tell me what you really believe... I don't have to agree with all your positions, but if I think you are an honest person and truly interested in representing both sides of opinion, then I will likely v**e for you.