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Nov 9, 2013 15:46:04   #
bahmer wrote:
I am fast becoming of the viewpoint that octive9 is nothing more than a troll and he is having the time of his life distracting us. I for one am not going to answer the little twerp anymore. I believe that if mo one gives him an audience that he will leave and go play with himself somewhere else. If you want to keep rehashing the same thing over and over again with this twit feel free. You will never change or discourage him so the only other choice is to ignore. Maybe he will go home and cry on his mothers apron or something.
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Nov 9, 2013 15:38:13   #
BoJester wrote:
Rob Ford, mayor of Toronto, admitted drug user/abuser, and still the darling of the conservatives.
Given the vitriol, hatred, vile and d********g name calling and bashing that conservative posters here at OPP do daily, perhaps mayor Ford has identified the problem...Conservatism.



http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/rob-ford-admits-being-extremely-inebriated-in-new-video-1.2418421


HAHAHAHA you Obama butt sniffers crack me up :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Nov 9, 2013 15:35:08   #
octive9 wrote:
You can say Obama shut the government down as much as you want, but that still doesn't make it true. I don't know what the income of the treasury has to do with it.


the 239 billion dollars in taxes the government takes in a month has everything to do with it dipstick...it takes 30 billion to run all essential government services including interest on debt,,,the other 200 billion or so is non-essential spending ie 'entitlements'...it is the presidents decision what what the money is spent on,,,,so naturally Obama in his arrogant little prick way chose to make the people feel it the most.....his little tantrum didn't work out though,,,as we the people just laugh at the pretender in chief,,,along with the rest of the world,,,,,except for you slobbering koolade drinkers.............. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Nov 7, 2013 06:06:59   #
ldsuttonjr wrote:
Very good summation.

The U.S. government has just passed a new law called: "The affordable boat act" declaring that every citizen MUST purchase a new boat, by April 2014. These "affordable" boats will cost an average of $54,000-$155,000 each. This does not include taxes, trailers, towing fees, licensing and registration fees, fuel, docking and storage fees, maintenance or repair costs.
This law has been passed, because until now, typically only wealthy and financially responsible people have been able to purchase boats. This new laws ensures that every American can now have a "affordable" boat of their own, because everyone is "entitled" to a new boat. If you purchase your boat before the end of the year, you will receive 4 "free" life jackets; not including monthly usage fees.



In order to make sure everyone purchases an affordable boat, the costs of owning a boat will increase on average of 250-400% per year. This way, wealthy people will pay more for something that other people don't want or can't afford to maintain. But to be fair, people who cant afford to maintain their boat will be regularly fined and children (under the age of 26) can use their parents boats to party on until they turn 27; then must purchase their own boat.



If you already have a boat, you can keep yours (just kidding; no you can't). If you don't want or don't need a boat, you are required to buy one anyhow. If you refuse to buy one or can't afford one, you will be regularly fined $800 until you purchase one or face imprisonment.

Failure to use the boat will also result in fines. People living in the desert; ghettos; inner cities or areas with no access to lakes are not exempt. Age, motion sickness, experience, knowledge nor lack of desire are acceptable excuses for not using your boat.



A government review board (that doesn't know the difference between the port, starboard or stern of a boat) will decide everything, including; when, where, how often and for what purposes you can use your boat along with how many people can ride your boat and determine if one is too old or healthy enough to be able to use their boat. They will also decide if your boat has out lived its usefulness or if you must purchase specific accessories,(like a $500 compass) or a newer and more expensive boat.



Those that can afford yachts will be required to do so...its only fair. The government will also decide the name for each boat. Failure to comply with these rules will result in fines and possible imprisonment.



Government officials are exempt from this new law. If they want a boat, they and their families can obtain boats free, at the expense of tax payers. Unions, bankers and mega companies with large political affiliations ($$$) are also exempt.



If the government can force you to buy health care, they can force you to buy a boat....or ANYTHING else..



Yea...it's that stupid...
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even as scary as that is I had to laugh,,,,,great post,,i'm off to buy my boat now.............. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Nov 7, 2013 05:52:03   #
TeaPartyRon wrote:
I hope Obama he rots and burns in hell along with a few others, Piloske, Reid and his entire corrupt gang of traders to this great country the USA. Which he and the others are trying to ruin, Wake up America it's our country ,let's take it back in 2014 if not sooner. Damn him and what he stands for the C*******t Pig.


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Nov 7, 2013 05:50:17   #
lone_ghost wrote:
Ok, Obama lied, his people lied, the Obamacare site is a train wreck, (and so are the paper and phone options). Why can they not just fess up, admit the obvious to the American people and take responsibility for once. If they did that myself and I am sure many other Americans (might) be able to acquire just a little bit of respect for these people.

I say these people not as the liberal/democrat base as a whole, just these smarmy, arrogant, self-deluded talking heads that I have to listen to every day barking over and over again that they did not lie, I just did not understand what they really said. Well, I speak English, I may only have one functional ear but I can still hear and I know for a fact there was no IF in any of those promises, I heard PERIOD.

The hearings are a joke, no one actually answers a question but I am paying these jackasses to accomplish nothing.

I am so disillusioned and mistrustful of my government now days that feel like I am swinging in the wind all alone, abandoned by those who I am supposed to have faith in to protect me as an American citizen. Protect my family. All they do is take and take smiling at me all the while as they try to tell me that they are working in my best interest. Oh and by the way this is a non-partisan rant, I am s**k of all of them, the government as a whole. They have too much power, they are way too big costing me entirely too much money to pay their damn salaries while they figure out new ways to take my hard earned money and give it to someone else.
Can you believe that? I have to pay them to take more and more money away from my family. I have to pay them to decide all of these things that are clearly not in my families best interest. I have to pay them to systematically destroy the country I almost died for, the people I almost died for are losing the freedom and rights I fought for them to keep.

I gave 8 years of my life, a lung, half my hearing, and one of my eyes defending the constitution of America and it's people only to watch as it is all just given away by a bunch of politicians. Yeah, I am disgusted.

On a note- any veteran no matter what your political leanings should share in this disgust.
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I say with a heavy heart that I agree wholeheartedly,,,it's a damn crying shame,,,,,when Vladimir putin makes more sense than our own elected officials the USA is in a ditch,,,,my only hope is that the populace smartens up soon, for the sake of the our country............. :!: :!: :!: :!:
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Nov 6, 2013 05:50:17   #
bmac32 wrote:
Now here's an example of leftwing BS. Even moderate democrats are wondering about the ObamaCare rules and regulations but the TRUE left think it's fine that their leader LIED 19 times. Is this 'anything for the chief'?


I believe that was 29 times,,,,i heard the montage this morning,,,,just sayin............ :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Nov 5, 2013 16:32:02   #
ldsuttonjr wrote:
Two graduates of West Point became the first men to marry each other at the military academy when Larry Choate III married Daniel Lennox Saturday afternoon at the U.S. Military Academy’s Cadet Chapel.

Both men are out of the Army and both wore tuxedoes for the ceremony. About 20 guests attended, some in uniform. There have been two previous gay marriages performed at the Cadet Chapel but they involved females.

I would say that Choate and Lennox have a better chance at a career in the Army now that 197 senior officers have been sacked by President Obama in the past five years. The point is, the mission of the US Military is to train, deploy, fight and win our nation’s wars – -combat engagements – not overseas contingency operations.

The job of the military is to take the individual and conform its behavior to the unit in order for it to fight as one. When the day comes that the military is made to conform itself to the behavior of the individual, then it will begin to erode and lose effectiveness. And mind you, race and g****r are not behaviors. This is not equivalent to integrating b****s.

I have been to West Point, and even addressed the Junior and Senior Cadet leadership classes. I do not celebrate this event at all, especially considering the Army only has two combat ready Brigades. Where are our priorities? I will always love the Army but what I am witnessing is an all-out progressive assault to destroy the foundations of a segment of our American society that represents and instills into young men and women the highest standards of honor, integrity, and character.

I absolutely support civil unions but believe marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman. Why is it necessary to redefine the foundation of a society, a family? States should make the determination about marriage, however, we should not allow activist courts to overrule the referendum of the people in order to institute their ideals on social e******y, and fairness, as in what happened in California.

If I could summon the great Spirits of the “Long Gray Line,” to include Henry O. Flipper, I wonder what they would say? Something tells me that George Patton would have some choice words for President Obama and Secretary Hagel.

So, I toss the ball into your court, my friends. Do you think West Point alums will be sending congratulatory notes to Mr. and Mr….well, heck, I don’t know how to address them. And be on the lookout for this couple to be recognized at this year’s Army-Navy game. I’m sure President Obama will give them a personal call of congratulations, just like with NBA player Jason Collins.
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their parents should be so proud,,,,,how embarrassing... :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Oct 29, 2013 06:02:17   #
lpnmajor wrote:
people who denigrate those who disagree with them have started with a closed mind. Make an argument and I will agree or not but you might just convince me. A discussion is not a fight because when the names start being called, the dialogue is over.


sorry but I think left-wing radical domocrats are assholes,,,therefore I call them assholes,,,,we've been trying to beat the facts into them for years,,,it isn't working,,,can't continue going over the same talking points over and over with the same results. maybe we start using they're tactics,,,they've brought name calling,,denigration,,,lying,, h**e,,r****m,,and mindless rhetoric to an art form. what goes around comes around............ :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Oct 29, 2013 05:50:29   #
Inyourface wrote:
On September 11,2001 , Terrorists brought down the World Trade Center. It is estimated that cost American,taxpayers over 22 billion dollars. Ted Cruz and his GOP, cohorts instigated a Government Shutdown that has cost 24 billion taxpayer dollars.

This egomaniacle,i***t from Texas is clearly a threat to the well being of this nation. Texas has a history of inflicting these morons on the nation. ( Think GW Bush,Ghomert,Perry,etc.)

Is is time for a national,referendum to consider expelling Texas rrom the Union?
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howbout we expel left-wing radical domocrats instead..that would solve all the USA's problems.... :-P :-P :-P :-P
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Oct 29, 2013 05:33:23   #
BoJester wrote:
There is a lot of banter between myself and the conservatives who post here, as well as some down right animosity, that said here is a serious question that I hope some can answer t***hfully.

There is so much complaining about the ACA and the individual mandate, I was wondering if there was just as much complaining when states and banks mandated that drivers must prove financial responsibility to legally drive.
Perhaps I am not old enough, but I never heard the level of whining, b***hing and moaning about a state government forcing people to buy something from a private company.
Along those lines, I can't remember a lot of crying about mortgage insurance mandated by banks and government backed mortgages. Or flood insurance, fire insurance or home insurance for government backed mortgages in flood plains, forest fire area, or earthquake potential areas.
And I am sure there are more examples relative to specific industries, trades and professions. And most if not all insurance is sold by PRIVATE companies, just like those in the ACA
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your not mandated to drive,,or own a house asshole,,,unlike ACA where your required by law to have health ins. if you don't drive or own a house you don't have to buy insurance or have a licence,,,that is a decision that the people make not the govt......
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Oct 29, 2013 05:25:36   #
BoJester wrote:
So you are a believer? Thanks for proving the point of the article.
And even one as stupid as you know that the s***e owners were CONSERVATIVE in thought, word, and deed. It must really pain you to have to face the t***h.


typical mindless moronic ass-kissing liberal,,,,tell him facts,,history,,,the way it really happened and he twists it all around to fit his narrow factless alice in wonderland fantasy,,,it still amazes me how anyone can see it happening and still deny it.....some you can't even beat back into sanity,,,,so sad.........
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Oct 27, 2013 09:30:43   #
Nuclearian wrote:
I would love to be around when it finally folds in on itself, but I am sure not looking forward to the damage it is causing in the meantime.


you got that right,,,there's no quick fix. seeing the ones that caused this (the left wing v**ers) suffer too helps a little...i'm sorry, I can't find any sympathy for them,,,,call me cold but that's the way I feel.................. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Oct 27, 2013 07:20:22   #
Lily wrote:
Will Pelosi Cost You Your Full-Time Job?
By Money Morning Staff Reports

Nancy Pelosi still insists that Obamacare will improve the lives of average Americans, despite over 20 reports indicating otherwise.

"Because of the law, in the coming months Americans will have expanded choices and more affordable care." Pelosi said at a recent Capitol Hill briefing. "We will be enhancing patients' rights, putting money back in the pockets of consumers, reducing costs and strengthening the economic, financial, and health security of working families."

She goes further to say that Obamacare will even lower the nation's debt.

"The Affordable Care Act is bringing the cost of health care in our country down in both the public and private sector," said Pelosi. "And that is what is largely responsible for the deficit coming down."

But what she doesn't realize is that her numbers are flawed.

"Despite promises that the law will lower costs, [Obamacare] will in fact cause the premiums of many Americans to spike substantially," a report released by the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Energy and Commerce concluded. "The broken promises are numerous, and the data reveals that many Americans, from recent college graduates to older adults, will not be able to afford the law's higher costs."

The report is based on responses from 17 insurance companies to a letter from Congress asking them to estimate the effects Obamacare would have on premiums and found that individuals in about 90% of all states would likely face "significant premium increases."

Furthermore, the committee found that some individuals may see premium increases up to 413%.
Editor's Note: How much extra will you have to pay? To see how much Obamacare will take from your paycheck next year, go here.

On top of higher premiums, Obamacare will create no fewer than twenty new taxes or tax hikes on the American people.

Most of the new taxes go into effect January 1, 2014, but they are already infuriating millions of Americans.

The Obama administration has even given the IRS an extra $500 million to enforce the rules and regulations of Obamacare.

The new taxes don't bode well for middle-class Americans. Incomes for the rich have soared this decade but middle class workers have seen their wages stagnate and even drop since the 2008 Great Recession.

Many fear Obamacare with its high insurance costs and new taxes, could provide the middle class a fatal blow.

Of course, the Obamacare plan was primarily designed to decrease the number of uninsured Americans and reduce healthcare costs.

Experts are saying it will have the exact opposite effect. In fact, it's estimated that Obamacare will cost the average taxpayer nearly $6,000 in extra taxes as early as next year.

A McKinsey report now estimates Obamacare will cost taxpayers at least an additional $400 billion more than originally proposed.

And another study done by the Congressional Budget Office estimates that Obamacare won't actually expand coverage and that the number of uninsured under Obamacare won't ever fall below 30 million.

Perhaps worse than anything, is that millions of Americans will now lose their full-time jobs.

That's a big reason why close to two-thirds of the country do not approve of Obamacare, according to recent polls.

Many are still furious over how the Democratically-controlled Congress passed this bill, which many scholars deem unconstitutional.

"Bipartisanship is a two-way street," Pelosi said before Congress v**ed on the law. "A bill can be bipartisan without bipartisan v**es...We have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it."

If Congress had read the bill before passing it they should have noticed one section of the law that says you could get slapped with a $2,000 fine for not having health insurance - even if you do actually have it.

Or another section that says that under Obamacare ordinary Americans will get stuck paying for substance abuse coverage even if they never touched a drink or drug in their life.
Can the U.S. government really put you in jail for not buying health insurance? Go here to see the shocking story.

With the implementation of Obamacare quickly approaching, millions of Americans are asking what they can do to prepare for all the new costs and rules.

One expert, Betsy McCaughey, former Lieutenant Governor of New York and constitutional scholar with a Ph.D. from Columbia University, recently wrote a best-selling book showing Americans how they can survive Obamacare.

McCaughey is one of the only people in the country -- including members of Congress - who has actually read the entire 2,572 page law.

Her book, titled Beating Obamacare: Your Handbook for Surviving the New Health Care Law breaks down the complicated bill into 168 pages of actionable advice.

The book, written in an easy going, easy to read style, examines the implications of Obamacare not seen in the mainstream press.

"Section 1501 of Obamacare requires nearly everyone to enroll in a one-size fits all, government-designed health insurance plan. For the first time in history, this law empowers the federal government to control how doctors treat privately insured patients," McCaughey writes. "So even if you have your own private health plan that you paid for yourself, the government will have say over your care."

She says that higher costs are only one negative of Obamacare. Doctors, nurses and other hospital employees will suffer from the government's interference in healthcare. This will trickle down to poorer patient care.

What's more, one third of all U.S. employers could stop offering health insurance to their workers, says McCaughey.

In fact, corporations including GE, IBM, and Time Warner have already said they will stop providing insurance for hundreds of thousands of employees.

McCaughey also exposes several sections of the bill that empower Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius to dictate what doctors can and cannot do.

"Section 4104(a), empowers Sebelius to reduce preventive services for seniors based on the recommendations of the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force," McCaughey notes. "This is the panel that said women ages forty to forty-nine and older than seventy-four should no longer get routine mammograms."

And according to McCaughey's research, senior citizens will get hit the hardest from Obamacare. "If you're a senior or a baby boomer, expect less care than in the past," she says. "Hip and knee replacements and cataract surgery will be especially hard to get from Medicare in the months ahead."

She warns seniors to get some of those types of procedures done now before Obamacare goes into full effect, as Obamacare awards bonus points to hospitals that spend the least on seniors.

Lastly, many will find it difficult to keep their medical records private, according to McCaughey.

"The law will compel Americans to share with millions of strangers who are not physicians confidential private and personal medical history information they do not wish to share"
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Oct 27, 2013 07:07:22   #
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jimahrens wrote:
Of course you know as the Democrat go so did Detroit!
You may have seen this but an interesting read.

ou’ve seen some of this, but here’s a lot more presented here. Sad data but pretty telling, too. Of course the other political group who will remain nameless will blame poor ole George Bush.

A State with No Republicans!

Whether you support Democrats or Republicans, you cannot deny these statistics which have been proven. The states with the most jobs and lowest cost of living (lower taxes) are run by Republican governors. The belief of creating opportunities and not victims works! Allowing people to keep their money creates a higher standard of living for all to enjoy.

"A State with No Republicans!"

Very interesting...Note this. A US State with zero Republicans in office - The State of Illinois. Think about this. Some interesting data on the 'state' of Illinois... There are more people on welfare in Illinois than there are people working. Chicago pays the highest wages to teachers than anywhere else in the U.S.
averaging $110,000/year. Their pensions average 80-90% of their income. Wow, are Illinois and Chicago great or what? Be sure to read till the end. I've never heard it explained better. Perhaps the U.S. should pull out of Chicago? Body count: In the last six months, 292 k**led (murdered) in Chicago. 221 k**led in Iraq; AND Chicago has one of the strictest gun laws in the entire US.

Here's the Chicago chain of command:

President: Barack Hussein Obama
Senator: Dick Durbin
House Representative: Jesse Jackson Jr.
Governor: Pat Quinn
House leader: Mike Madigan
Atty. Gen.: Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike)
Mayor: Rahm Emanuel

The leadership in Illinois - all Democrats. Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago. Of course, they're all blaming each other. Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

Chicago school system rated one of the worst in the country. Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

State pension fund $78 Billion in debt, worst in country. Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

Cook County (Chicago) sales tax 10.25% highest in country. Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois. And he is going to 'fix' Washington politics for us?

George Ryan is no longer Governor, he is in the prison.

He was replaced by Rob Blagojevich who is, that's right, also in the prison.

And Representative Jesse Jackson Jr. resigned a few months ago, because he is fighting to not be sent to...that's right, prison.

The Land of Lincoln, where our governors make our license plates.

But you know what?

As long as they keep providing entitlements to the population of Chicago, nothing is going to change, except the state will go broke before the country does.

"Anybody who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian."

Don’t forget Detroit - another good example.

Some of you might find these data interesting. ALL SHOULD. There are actually two messages here. The first is very interesting, but the second is absolutely astounding -- and explains a lot!

A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article provided very interesting statistics from a survey by the United Nations International Health Organization.

Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years after diagnosis:

U.S. 65%

England 46%

Canada 42%

Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received treatment within six months:

U.S. 93%

England 15%

Canada 43%

Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six months:

U.S. 90%

England 15%

Canada 43%

Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month:

U.S. 77%

England 40%

Canada 43%

Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:

U.S. 71

England 14

Canada 18

Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in "excellent health":

U.S. 12%

England 2%

Canada 6%

And now for the last statistic:

National Health Insurance?

U.S. NO

England YES

Canada YES

And check this last set of statistics!! The percentage of each past president's cabinet who had worked in the private business sector prior to their appointment to the cabinet.....

You know what the private business sector is. A real-life business, not a Government job. Here are the percentages:

T. Roosevelt................... 38%

Taft.................................40%

England 2%

Canada 6%

And now for the last statistic:

National Health Insurance?

U.S. NO

England YES

Canada YES

And check this last set of statistics!! The percentage of each past president's cabinet who had worked in the private business sector prior to their appointment to the cabinet.....

You know what the private business sector is. A real-life business, not a Government job. Here are the percentages:

T. Roosevelt................... 38%

Taft.................................40%

Wilson ........................... 52%

Harding.......................... 49%

Coolidge........................ 48%

Hoover ...........................42%

F. Roosevelt................... 50%

Truman...........................50%

Eisenhower.................... 57%

Kennedy......................... 30%

Johnson..........................47%

Nixon..............................53%

Ford................................42%

Carter.............................32%

Reagan...........................56%

GH Bush.........................51%

Clinton ..........................3

Wilson ........................... 52%

Harding.......................... 49%

Coolidge........................ 48%

Hoover ...........................42%

F. Roosevelt................... 50%

Truman...........................50%

Eisenhower.................... 57%

Kennedy......................... 30%

Johnson..........................47%

Nixon..............................53%

Ford................................42%

Carter.............................32%

Reagan...........................56%

GH Bush.........................51%

Clinton ..........................39%

GW Bush........................55%

Obama............................. 8%

This helps to explain the incompetence of this administration: only 8% of them have ever worked in private business! That's right! Only eight percent -- the least, by far, of the last 19 presidents! And these people are trying to tell our big corporations how to run their business?
How can the president of a major nation and society, the one with the most successful economic system in world history, stand and talk about business when he's never worked for one? Or about jobs when he has never really had one? And when it's the same for 92% of his senior staff and closest advisers?

They've spent most of their time in academia, government and/or non-profit jobs or as "community organizers." They should have been in an employment line.

Pass this on because we'll NEVER see these facts in the mainstream media.

Socialists in charge will never abide by the same rules and laws they inflict on the rest of us.....for example, our government exempting itself from Obamacare. There are also over 1400 waivers of businesses who have links to Nancy Pelosi (favorite restaurants, shops....) and many leaders in Washington who have exempted themselves, also.

"One of the penalties of not participating in politics is that you will be governed by your inferiors." - Plato

“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery” ... Winston Churchill
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