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Sep 19, 2018 15:28:35   #
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-dossier-stuck-york-didnt-trigger-russia-investigation-231021443.html

Trump 'dossier' stuck in New York, didn't trigger Russia investigation, sources say originally appeared on abcnews.go.com
President Donald Trump and his allies have long insisted that what he calls the “f**e dirty dossier” was wholly “responsible for starting the totally and discredited witch hunt” by special counsel Robert Mueller.
But, beginning in July 2016, that so-called “dossier” actually sat for several weeks inside an organized crime unit at the FBI’s New York field office, even as counterintelligence agents in Washington, D.C. – unaware of the new allegations – were already investigating Russian efforts to hijack American democracy.
Trump doubled down on his “dossier” accusation this week, ordering the Justice Department and U.S. intelligence community to release a bigger slice of the classified information used to investigate one of his advisers, New York business consultant Carter Page, insisting again Tuesday that “what will be disclosed is that there was no basis” for the surveillance.
(MORE: Trump defends order to declassify Russia probe documents, says he wants 'total t***sparency' in 'witch hunt')
Despite what Trump and like-minded politicians have said, sources told ABC News the “dossier” was plainly not the initial basis for the federal investigation. The following account, relayed to ABC News by several sources familiar with the federal probe, reflects how the FBI’s investigation into contacts between Russian operatives and Trump’s campaign team, including Page, was well underway in the summer of 2016 by the time a former British spy handed the FBI a packet of startling and salacious allegations tied to Trump.
In fact, the FBI already had an open counterintelligence case on Page when he became a volunteer on Trump’s foreign policy team in January 2016, according to sources familiar with the matter.
By then, Trump had publicly claimed to have “a good instinct” about Russian’s ruthless president, Vladimir Putin, had praised how Putin was “running his country,” and had compared the Kremlin’s assassinations of dissidents to the “plenty of k*****g” that happens inside the United States.
Trump’s refusal to criticize Putin – even in private – “mystified” then-FBI Director James Comey, he later recalled to ABC News. And three years earlier, when the FBI in 2013 was tracking two Russian spies in New York, agents secretly recorded one of the spies saying he wanted to “recruit” Page “as an intelligence source.” Page had previously lived in Moscow for three years.
Page was never charged with any crimes and says he cooperated with that previous investigation, but sources told ABC News his file, like many counterintelligence files, was never closed.
So, two months after Page started advising Trump’s campaign, the FBI paid him a visit in New York, asking about contacts with Russian intelligence, according to a government document.----MORE----
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Sep 19, 2018 15:08:08   #
woodguru wrote:
No blame for having an i***t for president?

It doesn't fly that this is the most innocent and maligned person ever in history as Trump believes. He's guilty and the right knows it, the only defense is to attack the opposition, because the man is 100% impossible to defend on his merits, there are none.


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Sep 19, 2018 14:07:38   #
okie don wrote:
Oh, I see there's a bunch of ' deplorables' on OPP huh!?


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Sep 19, 2018 14:05:28   #
old marine wrote:
My money was put up before the banks even opened Wuss. Lindajoy even posted it when the bet was accepted. YOU IGNORED OI. Started crawfishing on the bet YOU laid out. Then wanted to change who held the money

Theh you wanted more time to cash in food stamps.

Then wanted to change who held the money.

Then tried to modify the bet.

I had 12 people that send me PM saying you would not honor the bet.

THEY WERE RIGHT. TROLL SOMEONE ELSE. YOU WERE OUT TROLLED BY A MASTER.

Go join Hillery and you two can sing "cry me a river." Together for you are two of a kind.
My money was put up before the banks even opened W... (show quote)


Old F*** you don't know when to stop your BS.

We had no agreement on the money holder, Lj posted a picture BFD.
Food stamps were a joke and I posted my checking balance.
Now if you still want to bet Old f*** send me a PM or STFU.
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Sep 19, 2018 13:24:46   #
BigMike wrote:
Bulls**t!

My problem with Obama has always, always and ONLY been his g*******t policies.

My problem with Hillary is that she has not been indicted for having classified information on her private server. Indicted does not mean guilty but we deserve her UNDER OATH TESTIMONY...

...and her hawkish, g*******t policies!

YOUR problem seems to be that a 17 year old boy may may have felt up a girl 40 years ago.

I'm not petty like that...or desperate for something use for a point.
Bulls**t! br br My problem with Obama has always,... (show quote)


No indictments or convictions on Obama or Hillary so where is the "presumed innocence"?
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Sep 19, 2018 13:19:28   #
old marine wrote:
I checked with the holder minutes ago she has received nothing from you Wuss.

The great pretender is now the great Wuss.


The money holder is a he Old F*** and B of A has a 9-21 delivery day. Your B*** S*** will not fly.
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Sep 19, 2018 12:28:03   #
eagleye13 wrote:
"Only a fool would believe that crap, and keep spreading that manure without verifying any of it." - moldyoldy
Moldy just being Moldy!

Just a reminder of who the man elected twice as President "really is",
and how easy it was to turn the keys of the Kingdom over to a radical
l*****t Muslim sympathizer. We and our children may not outlive the
problems this man has brought upon this once great nation.


Anyone of these 'coincidences' when taken singularly appears to not
mean much, but when taken as a whole, a computer would blow a circuit
if you asked it to calculate the odds that they have occurred by
chance alone.

Obama just happened to know 60's far-left radical revolutionary William Ayers,

whose father just happened to be Thomas Ayers,

who just happened to be a close friend of Obama's c*******t mentor
Frank Marshall Davis,

who just happened to work at the c*******t-sympathizing Chicago
Defender with Vernon Jarrett,

who just happened to later become the father-in-law of Iranian-born
l*****t Valerie Jarrett,

who Obama just happened to choose as his closest White House adviser,

and who just happened to have been CEO of Habitat Company,

which just happened to manage public housing in Chicago,

which just happened to get millions of dollars from the Illinois state
legislature,

and which just happened not to properly maintain the housing which
eventually just happened to require demolition.

Not to mention that this is the property that would have been the
grounds that hosted the Olympics, had Obama's efforts been successful.

Valerie Jarrett also just happened to work for the city of Chicago,
and just happened to hire Michelle LaVaughan Robinson (later Mrs.
Obama),

who just happened to have worked at the Sidney Austin law firm,

where former fugitive from the FBI Bernardine Dohrn also just happened to work,

and where Barack Obama just happened to get a summer job.

Bernardine Dohrn just happened to be married to William Ayers,

with whom she just happened to have hidden from the FBI at a San Francisco
marina,

along with Donald Warden, who just happened to change his name to
Khalid al-Mansour,

and Warden al-Mansour,

who just happened to be a mentor of Black Panther Party Founders Huey
Newton and Bobby Seale and a close associate of Nation of Islam leader
Louis Farrakhan

and al-Mansour just happened to be financial adviser to a Saudi Prince,

who just happened to donate cash to Harvard,

for which Obama just happened to get a critical letter of
recommendation from Percy Sutton,

who just happened to have been the attorney for Malcolm X,

who just happened to know Kenyan politician Tom Mboya,

who just happened to be a close friend of Barack Hussein Obama, Sr.,

who just happened to meet Malcolm X when he traveled to Kenya.

Obama, Sr. just happened to have his education at the University of
Hawaii paid for by the Laubach Literacy Institute,

which just happened to have been supported by Elizabeth Mooney Kirk,

who just happened to be a friend of Malcolm X,

who just happened to have been associated with the Nation of Islam,
which was later headed by Louis Farrakhan,

who just happens to live very close to Obama's Chicago mansion,

which also just happens to be located very close to the residence of
William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn,

who just happen to have been occasional baby-sitters for Malia and
Natasha Obama,

whose presumed parents just happened to have no concern exposing their
daughters to bomb-making c*******ts.

After attending Occidental College and Columbia University, where he
just happened to have foreign Muslim roommates,

Obama moved to Chicago to work for the Industrial Areas Foundation,

an organization that just happened to have been founded by Marxist and
radical agitator Saul "the Red" Alinsky, author of Rules for Radicals,

who just happened to be the topic of Hillary Rodham Clinton's thesis
at Wellesley College,

and Obama's $25,000 salary at IAF just happened to be funded by a
grant from the Woods Fund,

which was founded by the Woods family, whose Sahara Coal company just
happened to provide coal to Commonwealth Edison,

whose CEO just happened to be Thomas Ayers,

whose son William Ayers just happened to serve on the board of the
Woods Fund, along with Obama.

Obama also worked on v***r r**********n drives in Chicago in the 1980s
and just happened to work with l*****t political groups like the
Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and Socialist International
(SI), through which Obama met Carl Davidson,

who just happened to travel to Cuba during the Vietnam War to sabotage
the U.S. war effort, and

who just happened to be a former member of the SDS and a member of the
Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism,

which just happened to sponsor a 2002 anti-war rally at which Obama spoke,

and which just happened to have been organized by Marilyn Katz, a
former SDS activist and later public relations consultant,

who just happened to be a long-time friend of Obama's political
hatchet man, David Axelrod.

Obama joined Trinity United Church of Christ (TUCC), whose pastor was
Reverend Jeremiah Wright, a fiery orator

who just happened to preach Marxism and Black Liberation Theology and
who delivered anti-white, anti-Jew and anti-American sermons,

which Obama just happened never to hear because he just happened to
miss church only on the days when Wright was at his "most
enthusiastic,"

and Obama just happened never to notice that Oprah Winfrey left the
church because it was too radical, and

just happened never to notice that the church gave the vile
anti-Semitic Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan a lifetime
achievement award.

Although no one had ever heard of him at the time, Obama just happened
to receive an impossible-to-believe $125,000 advance to write a book
about race relations,

which he just happened to fail to write, while using the cash to
vacation in Bali with his wife Michelle,

and despite his record of non-writing, he just happened to receive a
second advance, for $40,000, from another publisher, and

he eventually completed a manuscript called Dreams From My Father,

which just happened to strongly reflect the writing style of William Ayers,

who just happened to trample on an American f**g for the cover
photograph of the popular Chicago Magazine,

which Obama just happened never to see even though it appeared on
newsstands throughout the city.

Obama was hired by the law firm Miner, Banhill and Galland,

which just happened to specialize in negotiating state government
contracts to develop low-income housing, and

which just happened to deal with now-imprisoned Tony Rezko and his
firm Rezar, and with slumlord Valerie Jarrett, and

the law firm's Judson Miner just happened to have been a classmate of
Bernardine Dohrn, wife of William Ayers.

In 1994 Obama represented ACORN and another plaintiff in a lawsuit
against Citibank for denying mortgages to b****s (Buycks-Roberson v.
Citibank Federal Savings Bank),

and the lawsuit just happened to result in banks being blackmailed
into approving
subprime loans for poor credit risks, a trend which just happened to
spread nationwide,

and which just happened to contribute to the collapse of the housing bubble,

which just happened to help Obama defeat John McCain in the 2008
p**********l e******n.

In 1996 Obama ran for the Illinois State Senate and joined the "New Party,

which just happened to promote Marxism, and

Obama was supported by Dr. Quentin Yong, a socialist

who just happened to support a government takeover of the health care system.

In late 1999 Obama purportedly engaged in cocaine-snorting in the back
of a limousine with a man named Larry Sinclair,

who claims he was contacted in late 2007 by Donald Young,

who just happened to be the choir director of Obama's Chicago church

and who shared information with Sinclair about Obama,

and Young just happened to be murdered on December 23, 2007,

just weeks after Larry Bland, another member of the church just
happened to be murdered,

and both murders just happened to have never been solved.

In 2008, Sinclair held a press conference to discuss his claims, and
just happened to be arrested immediately after the event,

based on a warrant issued by Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden, who
just happens to be the son of Joe Biden.

In 2003 Obama and his wife attended a dinner in honor of Rashid
Khalidi, who just happened to be a former PLO operative, harsh critic
of Israel, and advocate of Palestinian rights,

and who Obama claims he does not know, even though the Obamas just happened to

have dined more than once at the home of Khalidi and his wife, Mona,

and just happened to have used them as occasional baby-sitters.

Obama reportedly praised Khalidi at the decidedly anti-Semitic event,
which William Ayers just happened to also attend,

and the event Obama pretends he never attended was sponsored by the
Arab American Action Network,

to which Obama just happened to have funneled cash while serving on
the board of the Woods Fund with William Ayers,

and one speaker at the dinner remarked that if Palestinians cannot
secure a return of their land, Israel "will never see a day of peace,"

and entertainment at the dinner included a Muslim children's dance
whose performances just happened to include simulated beheadings with
f**e swords, and stomping on American, Israeli and British f**gs, and

Obama allegedly told the audience that "Israel has no God-given right
to occupy Palestine"
and there has been "genocide against the Palestinian people by (the) Israelis."

The Los Angeles Times has a videotape of the event but just happens to
refuse to make it public.

In the 2004 Illinois Democrat primary race for the U.S. Senate,
front-runner Blair Hull just happened to be forced out of the race
after David Axelrod just happened to manage to get Hull's sealed
divorce records unsealed,

which just happened to enable Obama to win the primary, so he could
face popular Republican Jack Ryan,

whose sealed child custody records from his divorce just happened to
become unsealed, forcing Ryan to withdraw from the race,

which just happened to enable the unqualified Obama to waltz into the
U.S. Senate, where, after a mere 143 days of work, he just happened to
decide he was qualified to run for President of the United States.

What fools we are!
"Only a fool would believe that crap, and kee... (show quote)


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Sep 19, 2018 12:03:34   #
[quote=eagleye13]
Capt-jack wrote:


A refresher;
Just a reminder of who the man elected twice as President "really is",
and how easy it was to turn the keys of the Kingdom over to a radical
l*****t Muslim sympathizer. We and our children may not outlive the
problems this man has brought upon this once great nation.


Anyone of these 'coincidences' when taken singularly appears to not
mean much, but when taken as a whole, a computer would blow a circuit
if you asked it to calculate the odds that they have occurred by
chance alone.

Obama just happened to know 60's far-left radical revolutionary William Ayers,

whose father just happened to be Thomas Ayers,

who just happened to be a close friend of Obama's c*******t mentor
Frank Marshall Davis,

who just happened to work at the c*******t-sympathizing Chicago
Defender with Vernon Jarrett,

who just happened to later become the father-in-law of Iranian-born
l*****t Valerie Jarrett,

who Obama just happened to choose as his closest White House adviser,

and who just happened to have been CEO of Habitat Company,

which just happened to manage public housing in Chicago,

which just happened to get millions of dollars from the Illinois state
legislature,

and which just happened not to properly maintain the housing which
eventually just happened to require demolition.

Not to mention that this is the property that would have been the
grounds that hosted the Olympics, had Obama's efforts been successful.

Valerie Jarrett also just happened to work for the city of Chicago,
and just happened to hire Michelle LaVaughan Robinson (later Mrs.
Obama),

who just happened to have worked at the Sidney Austin law firm,

where former fugitive from the FBI Bernardine Dohrn also just happened to work,

and where Barack Obama just happened to get a summer job.

Bernardine Dohrn just happened to be married to William Ayers,

with whom she just happened to have hidden from the FBI at a San Francisco
marina,

along with Donald Warden, who just happened to change his name to
Khalid al-Mansour,

and Warden al-Mansour,

who just happened to be a mentor of Black Panther Party Founders Huey
Newton and Bobby Seale and a close associate of Nation of Islam leader
Louis Farrakhan

and al-Mansour just happened to be financial adviser to a Saudi Prince,

who just happened to donate cash to Harvard,

for which Obama just happened to get a critical letter of
recommendation from Percy Sutton,

who just happened to have been the attorney for Malcolm X,

who just happened to know Kenyan politician Tom Mboya,

who just happened to be a close friend of Barack Hussein Obama, Sr.,

who just happened to meet Malcolm X when he traveled to Kenya.

Obama, Sr. just happened to have his education at the University of
Hawaii paid for by the Laubach Literacy Institute,

which just happened to have been supported by Elizabeth Mooney Kirk,

who just happened to be a friend of Malcolm X,

who just happened to have been associated with the Nation of Islam,
which was later headed by Louis Farrakhan,

who just happens to live very close to Obama's Chicago mansion,

which also just happens to be located very close to the residence of
William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn,

who just happen to have been occasional baby-sitters for Malia and
Natasha Obama,

whose presumed parents just happened to have no concern exposing their
daughters to bomb-making c*******ts.

After attending Occidental College and Columbia University, where he
just happened to have foreign Muslim roommates,

Obama moved to Chicago to work for the Industrial Areas Foundation,

an organization that just happened to have been founded by Marxist and
radical agitator Saul "the Red" Alinsky, author of Rules for Radicals,

who just happened to be the topic of Hillary Rodham Clinton's thesis
at Wellesley College,

and Obama's $25,000 salary at IAF just happened to be funded by a
grant from the Woods Fund,

which was founded by the Woods family, whose Sahara Coal company just
happened to provide coal to Commonwealth Edison,

whose CEO just happened to be Thomas Ayers,

whose son William Ayers just happened to serve on the board of the
Woods Fund, along with Obama.

Obama also worked on v***r r**********n drives in Chicago in the 1980s
and just happened to work with l*****t political groups like the
Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and Socialist International
(SI), through which Obama met Carl Davidson,

who just happened to travel to Cuba during the Vietnam War to sabotage
the U.S. war effort, and

who just happened to be a former member of the SDS and a member of the
Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism,

which just happened to sponsor a 2002 anti-war rally at which Obama spoke,

and which just happened to have been organized by Marilyn Katz, a
former SDS activist and later public relations consultant,

who just happened to be a long-time friend of Obama's political
hatchet man, David Axelrod.

Obama joined Trinity United Church of Christ (TUCC), whose pastor was
Reverend Jeremiah Wright, a fiery orator

who just happened to preach Marxism and Black Liberation Theology and
who delivered anti-white, anti-Jew and anti-American sermons,

which Obama just happened never to hear because he just happened to
miss church only on the days when Wright was at his "most
enthusiastic,"

and Obama just happened never to notice that Oprah Winfrey left the
church because it was too radical, and

just happened never to notice that the church gave the vile
anti-Semitic Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan a lifetime
achievement award.

Although no one had ever heard of him at the time, Obama just happened
to receive an impossible-to-believe $125,000 advance to write a book
about race relations,

which he just happened to fail to write, while using the cash to
vacation in Bali with his wife Michelle,

and despite his record of non-writing, he just happened to receive a
second advance, for $40,000, from another publisher, and

he eventually completed a manuscript called Dreams From My Father,

which just happened to strongly reflect the writing style of William Ayers,

who just happened to trample on an American f**g for the cover
photograph of the popular Chicago Magazine,

which Obama just happened never to see even though it appeared on
newsstands throughout the city.

Obama was hired by the law firm Miner, Banhill and Galland,

which just happened to specialize in negotiating state government
contracts to develop low-income housing, and

which just happened to deal with now-imprisoned Tony Rezko and his
firm Rezar, and with slumlord Valerie Jarrett, and

the law firm's Judson Miner just happened to have been a classmate of
Bernardine Dohrn, wife of William Ayers.

In 1994 Obama represented ACORN and another plaintiff in a lawsuit
against Citibank for denying mortgages to b****s (Buycks-Roberson v.
Citibank Federal Savings Bank),

and the lawsuit just happened to result in banks being blackmailed
into approving
subprime loans for poor credit risks, a trend which just happened to
spread nationwide,

and which just happened to contribute to the collapse of the housing bubble,

which just happened to help Obama defeat John McCain in the 2008
p**********l e******n.

In 1996 Obama ran for the Illinois State Senate and joined the "New Party,

which just happened to promote Marxism, and

Obama was supported by Dr. Quentin Yong, a socialist

who just happened to support a government takeover of the health care system.

In late 1999 Obama purportedly engaged in cocaine-snorting in the back
of a limousine with a man named Larry Sinclair,

who claims he was contacted in late 2007 by Donald Young,

who just happened to be the choir director of Obama's Chicago church

and who shared information with Sinclair about Obama,

and Young just happened to be murdered on December 23, 2007,

just weeks after Larry Bland, another member of the church just
happened to be murdered,

and both murders just happened to have never been solved.

In 2008, Sinclair held a press conference to discuss his claims, and
just happened to be arrested immediately after the event,

based on a warrant issued by Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden, who
just happens to be the son of Joe Biden.

In 2003 Obama and his wife attended a dinner in honor of Rashid
Khalidi, who just happened to be a former PLO operative, harsh critic
of Israel, and advocate of Palestinian rights,

and who Obama claims he does not know, even though the Obamas just happened to

have dined more than once at the home of Khalidi and his wife, Mona,

and just happened to have used them as occasional baby-sitters.

Obama reportedly praised Khalidi at the decidedly anti-Semitic event,
which William Ayers just happened to also attend,

and the event Obama pretends he never attended was sponsored by the
Arab American Action Network,

to which Obama just happened to have funneled cash while serving on
the board of the Woods Fund with William Ayers,

and one speaker at the dinner remarked that if Palestinians cannot
secure a return of their land, Israel "will never see a day of peace,"

and entertainment at the dinner included a Muslim children's dance
whose performances just happened to include simulated beheadings with
f**e swords, and stomping on American, Israeli and British f**gs, and

Obama allegedly told the audience that "Israel has no God-given right
to occupy Palestine"
and there has been "genocide against the Palestinian people by (the) Israelis."

The Los Angeles Times has a videotape of the event but just happens to
refuse to make it public.

In the 2004 Illinois Democrat primary race for the U.S. Senate,
front-runner Blair Hull just happened to be forced out of the race
after David Axelrod just happened to manage to get Hull's sealed
divorce records unsealed,

which just happened to enable Obama to win the primary, so he could
face popular Republican Jack Ryan,

whose sealed child custody records from his divorce just happened to
become unsealed, forcing Ryan to withdraw from the race,

which just happened to enable the unqualified Obama to waltz into the
U.S. Senate, where, after a mere 143 days of work, he just happened to
decide he was qualified to run for President of the United States.

What fools we are!
br br A refresher; br Just a reminder of who the... (show quote)


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Sep 19, 2018 12:00:44   #
Nickolai wrote:
Yes I posses a free will and a strong conscience I've had many opportunities to violate my wedding vows but never once succumbed. It would have been so easy but my conscience would not allow it. As for a soul there is no scientific evidence of such a thing as a soul.


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Sep 19, 2018 11:59:24   #
BigMike wrote:
What's hypocritical is to ignore "presumed innocence" for the sake of politics or personal reasons. Your not the slightest bit different than they people you decry...not even a little.


That's what you have done with Obama and Hillary???????
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Sep 19, 2018 11:34:40   #
son of witless wrote:
By your definition then everyone who disagrees with you are " Some silly wackos ". I still say the hyena is your way of covering up when you are tongue tied.



"By your definition then everyone who disagrees with you are" Nope,
, but some are too stupid to waste time on.
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Sep 19, 2018 11:21:19   #
son of witless wrote:
Whenever at a loss for words, the laughing hyena comes out.


Some silly wackos aren't worth the time.


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Sep 19, 2018 11:14:32   #
JFlorio wrote:
You don't know, yet you v**ed for him? Pretty stupid Bot. Even for you.


"Pretty stupid Bot" Yeah JF, I don't v**e in his state and you don't know how I v**e, yeah pretty stupid.
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Sep 19, 2018 11:08:50   #
lindajoy wrote:
Opinion is just that, doesn’t make it right..In politics you could use that arguement on every single person in here..!! Not justication, just reality... Difference of opinion is just that...


B*** s***, opinion stated as a fact is nothing but a lie and the wackos use lies constantly.
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Sep 19, 2018 11:03:31   #
eagleye13 wrote:
How can anyone with good morals, still v**e foe democrats?
Another reason for Republicans to get out and v**e in November;
It there any morality left in Democrat politicians?

Hannity said the same people were largely silent when it came to incidents involving the late Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) and former President Bill Clinton.

"This is the same party of Harvey Weinstein, Anthony Weiner and Eliot Spitzer," Hannity said. "When Democrats tell you they want to get to the t***h... frankly, we've proven they're simply lying." - bmac
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