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Jan 16, 2014 14:21:06   #
slatten49 wrote:
I'll have you know, we here in Central Texas are getting sunburnt....with a slight 'chill' factor. 8-) :mrgreen:


We here in North Carolina have been getting soaked and fogged in every morning
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Jan 16, 2014 14:19:07   #
MarvinSussman wrote:
How many hundred Marines did Reagan k**l in Lebanon? Over 200. I get too sick looking it up.

How many B******is did GWB have in 8 years. A dozen? If you can't have 100% security, let's stop all diplomacy?

Talk about right wing nuttery, this takes the cake! Why do I bother trying to straighten you guys out?


When in a position to be unable to defend Obama blame Bush. That will not work anymore, but if you want to play that game how many did Lyndon Johnson k**l in Viet Nam?
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Jan 16, 2014 13:58:53   #
MarvinSussman wrote:
The point was that the House limits the spending. The President wants more spending. The House does not. The House wins, not the President.

The President cannot make the House give money to the State Department for security guards. Money that can be borrowed at practically zero real (inflation-adjusted) interest rate. This is k*****g an ambassador for spite rather than for money. Bush could have had all the money he wanted.


Bush could only get all he wanted if Republicans controlled both Houses of Congress. The money is not really important. If the people were not safe the they should have been brought home like the British and Red Cross did. No matter how you try to spin it or live in a state of denial those who died in B******i did so because of the negligence of Obama and H. Clinton, but you will defend them no matter what they ever do.
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Jan 16, 2014 13:52:42   #
Old_Gringo wrote:
How many EO's has he signed that should have gone through the House and/or Senate, not only bypassing Congress, but also the Constitution?


Old Gringo, they will just come back and say Bush did more EO's than Obama, but keep in mind it is not the number but the content that matters.
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Jan 16, 2014 13:38:32   #
godisreal wrote:
Then the bottom line we are doomed to have the IRS abusing and using its power to do the bidding of the president. I care less if it is a Democrat or Republican in the white house they all do the same thing. Just that Obama used it more then most of the past president and he got caught using it for his own means. He uses his office for his own means plain and simple to change American, remold us into his idea of a idea government. Unfortunately it is not our way of life as we know it now. Obama is using the IRS to forward his health care and will use them to inforce even more. But this is only my opinion does anyone agree with me on this point?
Then the bottom line we are doomed to have the IRS... (show quote)


You are right on target. If a Republican did what he has done the liberls would be going nuts yelling for impeachment, but Obama gets a pass from them on everything.
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Jan 16, 2014 13:36:16   #
MarvinSussman wrote:
The President cannot create a bill that he can sign all by himself. He can only sign the House's bill.

Read the Constitution!


He can also veto any bill if he does not agree with it or ask that parts be change if he feels it will put lives in danger. Read it yourself.
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Jan 16, 2014 12:43:00   #
bmac32 wrote:
For five years and it has failed at each step? Ike spent less than one trillion in 8 years, Obama has spent 5 times that much.


You should knw by now that debt and deficits only matter to a Democrat if a Republican is President. Remember how Obama called 9 trillion in debt unpatriotic and his followers cheered , but now 17 trillion is not important.
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Jan 16, 2014 12:36:54   #
MarvinSussman wrote:
Not according to me. According to the Senate committee. You are the one making stuff up.


Take the report as a whole and the real blame falls on Obama and Clinton. I guess, according to you, Stevens is also responsible for the lies Obama and his minions told.
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Jan 16, 2014 12:34:47   #
MarvinSussman wrote:
The budget comes from the House. Look at the House now. How much infrastructure are they building? The GOP is doing it all alone.


Any budget has to be passed by the Senate and signed into law by thge President.
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Jan 16, 2014 12:33:30   #
Winter Solstice wrote:
I could go on and on about the Federal Reserve. It has no business existing at all but has been in control of the Country since 1913. It is NOT a Federal Agency. It is a bunch of bankers who control our money. Their only object it to increase their wealth.
I worry about a flat tax. Politicians will never v**e for a flat tax even though is is the most fair way to collect money to keep the Govt. running.
The IRS is far to powerful and does really need to be knocked down a rung or two.


You are right about Congress never v****g for a flat tax. Too much big money behind getting them reelected.
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Jan 16, 2014 12:19:27   #
jimahrens wrote:
The sickening t***h is Liberals don't give a Dam about the Lives lost. All they care about is what the Government can give them. They are so pitifully stupid it does not register in there pea Brains. Just imagine what comes next if H. Clinton get elected.


You are so right. Liberals believe lives are an appropriate sacrifice as long as the achieve their goals.
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Jan 16, 2014 12:12:58   #
MarvinSussman wrote:
“After reading the August 16, 2012, EAC cable, General Ham called Ambassador Stevens and asked if the Embassy needed the SST (Site Security Team) from the U.S. military, but Stevens told Ham it did not. Shortly thereafter, Stevens traveled to Germany for a previously scheduled meeting with Ham at AFRICOM headquarters. Ham again offered to sustain the SST at the meeting, and Stevens again declined.”*

*From Page 20 of the January 15, 2014 “REVIEW of the TERRORIST ATTACKS ON U.S. FACILITIES IN B******I, LIBYA, SEPTEMBER 11-13, 2012 together with ADDITIONAL VIEWS” issued by the SENATE SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE.

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/world/senate-intelligence-committee-report-on-b******i-attack/748/

You have to be paranoid to think that a bureaucrat would deny protection for an ambassador paid for by another department.

The fact is that Stevens didn't want to appear to be armed to the hilt and frightened by the m*****as he was bargaining with for arms. He was presenting himself as a harmless buyer of goods.

From all the emails released by the CIA, the “talking points” were written by the CIA as a cover story. The question is: why do Republicans want to blow a CIA cover story? To make political hay with the lives of our agents in the field? Isn’t this close to treason? Why do you h**e America?

Government-shrinking conservatives cut $11B from the State Departments budget.http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2011-…
“After reading the August 16, 2012, EAC cable, Gen... (show quote)


So now it is the victim's fault according to you. That is about as low as one can get but for you anything to protect Obama is good.
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Jan 16, 2014 12:10:24   #
Republicrat wrote:
You Do Know the Republicans cut the budget for securtiy operations. How does the State Department send money they are not authorized to spend. If there was a "plot" all we need is the memo the Republicans sent the terrorist letting them know that area was not budgeted.


The GOP could not cut the budget alone so let that go. If securuty could not be provided then they should have brought them home like the Brits did. No matter how you try to spin this it is all on Obama and H. Clinton.
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Jan 16, 2014 10:06:30   #
Republicrat wrote:
When you can criticize George Bush for attacks that k**led dipolmats, then you can talk, otherwise you show your true colors as being part of the "ONE TERM PRESIDENCY" crowd.
Next Republican president, if we ever have one, the Democrats need to announce he is a one term president and do everything they can to insure it,like cut appropriations for embassay security. I wonder if the Republicans will sit back and take it the way the Democrats and Obama have just sat there and taken it.?????????
Let me run their PR campaign and there would be no Republican PARTY let inspite of the BIllIONs billionaires are throwing at it. What do you mean money does not solve a problem. It did for the Republicans in 2010. I known You think I am off topic, but the whole discussion is, anti-Obama and Democrats. Did the founding Fathers intend for money to re-establish and aristocracy????
When you can criticize George Bush for attacks tha... (show quote)


Yiu are off topic because you cannot face the t***h, nor do you want it.
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Jan 16, 2014 08:52:31   #
The bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee report is out and confirms what most of us have known and the Obama worshippers have refused to admit. It was known from the beginning that it was a terrorist attack with Al Qaeda involvement. It was known that Ambassador Stevens and others were in danger and nothing was done to protect them or develop a rescue plan in case of an attack. The American people were repeatedly lied to by Obama, H. Clinton, Susan Rice, and everyone else involved. It is now also known that the families of those who died are right when they say they have been lied to. We all know the reason for the cover-up was to help Obama get reelected. For all you FOX news h**ers they have been right about this from the beginning. One other thing we know is that the Obama worshippers who post here are going to use every liberal spin blog they can find to still try and cover for Obama and H. Clinton. They do not care who died as long as Obama stays true to their far left agenda. Please do not try and divert attention to what Bush did. It will not work and just shows more of your true colors.
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