fastwalker wrote:
While this is not happening today, Native Americans were pushed off their lands in the past and put onto reservations. Treaties were hammered out and signed, ceremonies took place, and both sides heralded a new era of co-operation. Then people in Washington decided that they needed mineral rights to get the oil underground, or gold, or wh**ever. Bottom line: the feds got pretty much what they wanted. While the government doesn't encroach onto tribal lands today, this has happened repeatedly in the past.
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Z*****ts thought they were going to get oil and other resources from the Palestinian land, but when they found out there was none they proceeded to engage in their land-grabbing activities by occupying the territories they defeated in the 1967 war against the Palestinians. Now, they are engaging America in their wars of expansion into the lands they know do have oil as per their stated goal of "Eretz Yisrael" (Greater Israel, which see), which is the occupation of all the land from the Mediterranean Sea to the Persian Gulf so they will have a monopoly (something they revere) on M.E. oil, thereby strengthening their control of America.
We (the USA) took parts of Mexico when we thought we needed to, and parts of Canada too. The area from California to Texas was once the northern half of Mexico. In 1845 Washington pressured Mexico into selling us what is now the southern parts of Arizona and New Mexico, at the price we dictated. This doesn't happen anymore either, but the passage of time doesn't necessarily make it right.
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Nor is the taking by violence of the Palestinians' land right, either. Or the waging war by proxy through the U.S. to install Israel-first regimes in Iraq (which is a prelude to Israel's occupation), Afghanistan, Iran, or any other M.E. nations, either. Two wrongs do not make a right.
My point is that after such things happen, there are no easy solutions that satisfy all those concerned.
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The Mexicans seem to have found their solution with conquest by i*****l i*********n, which Israel is deathly afraid will happen to them if the "right of return" is allowed. All the pieces fit, all one has to do is connect the dots.
As time passes, the possessors of lands taken from others become more entrenched, and it becomes more difficult to dislodge them. The only workable solution for the Israelis and Palestineans is to compromise, stop attacking each other, stick to past agreements, and learn to live in peace with each other. It doesn't make the past any less painful, and it's not completely fair, but holding on to old resentments only makes the pain last longer. It also guarantees that future generations of Israelis and Palestineans will keep on bleeding each other.
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Or the Z*****ts could allow i*****l i*********n as we in the U.S. are doing, and put the Palestinian immigrants on all sorts of benefits like schools, food stamps, free medical care, drivers' licenses, welfare money, right to v**e, etc. Does that sound allright to you?
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No, Lasher, those things are not all right with me. It's absolutely wrong to give all those government benefits to people who are here illegally. These programs are a drain on the US taxpayer, at a time when Americans are out of work, losing their homes, and American children go underfed and undereducated. Charity begins at home.
Like many people, I feel a certain amount of sympathy for Jewish people after the Holocaust. Maybe even a little more than most, because I am of German ancestry. But it's very hard to justify what the Israelis have done to the Palestineans, and some of the things they've done to us as well.