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May 7, 2013 07:09:45   #
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May 7, 2013 09:01:31   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
So not surprising. Close to 100% of them were brainwashed for over a decade in our public schools which have become arms of the dark side. Collectivists cannot take over a country until enough of its citizens are dumbed down and, in ignorance, accept the unacceptable. The ways to take over a country are 1)dumb down the citizenry - more easily done if you take over the schools first, 2) destroy the economy - done by driving employers out of the country or regulating them out of business thereby destroying jobs and making more people dependent on the government, and 3) destroying the criminal justice system by appointing drunks and sociopaths to judgeships, decriminalizing serious crimes while raising minor stuff to major levels. It helps when the AG lets major criminals walk while jailing people because he doesn't like the tee shirts they wear, doesn't like pictures they have, etc. To accomplish all this, the President, the Congress, the Supreme Court, and lower courts must play the same game to totally confuse the public. They are doing a nice job of this bit of chicanery while true, honorable Americans suffer. When all these methods are pooled, one can see that what must happen, and is happening is that the goal is to totally OVERWHELM the citizens with unthinkable nonsense and cruelty. Team Obama SPECIALIZES in such. Thanks a LOT, DEMOCRATS, aka the DARK SIDE, bad, sinister, the left.

Why would anyone expect young adults reared in public Schools for Dummies to think anything but what they are told by their brain washers to think??

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May 7, 2013 10:54:49   #
citizenone
 
Most public schools still offer a good education. Young people support gay rights because they have grown up with gays and know they are just like you and me, with hopes and dreams and fighting for civil rights.
Our public schools could and should be better, but have been gutted of the funds needed. Like many areas of our union, the money goes to the 2%, the banks, wall street instead of the commons.

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May 7, 2013 11:36:25   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
citizenone wrote:
Most public schools still offer a good education. Young people support gay rights because they have grown up with gays and know they are just like you and me, with hopes and dreams and fighting for civil rights.
Our public schools could and should be better, but have been gutted of the funds needed. Like many areas of our union, the money goes to the 2%, the banks, wall street instead of the commons.

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Do you honestly believe what you have just written? Yes, we are better integrated, and I suppose that on the whole that is a good thing although schools were more civilized before integration. But what does it have to do with education? Unfortunately statistics on education come from the education industry primarily, and the industry isn't anxious to paint itself incompetent, which I feel it mostly is. A goodly portion of today's high school graduates cannot name the Vice President of their country, or the Speaker of the House. Nor can they figure out if they are paid the proper amount for a day's work if they don't have a handy calculator. I'll wager most can't name his basic rights as an American. I'll wager that most cannot locate England on a map if the names are not written on it. Do most of them know how America came to be free? Teachers are paid a LOT more - and more and more of them get into legal trouble because of ethics failures. More people graduate from high school, but do they know as much as 4th graders a century ago knew? No, I don't think they are as bright as some of the poorest scholars a century ago, primarily because discipline has disappeared along with morality and decency in the schools along with almost every other entity also declining.

Most young adults of today have been brainwashed, have been freed from moral standards, have gutless parents with no principles by which they live and raise their kids, and FAR TOO MANY don't even have two parents, or worse yet even ONE parent who tries to teach and mold the child so that he might have a fruitful life when he grows up. Teachers who MIGHT be of some use, are prevented from doing so by laws, by unions, by the ptb within their districts.

Am I jaundiced? You would bet I am! I am jaundiced, and I wish everyone would look at the world through my eyes - if they would, they too would be jaundiced.

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May 7, 2013 11:46:48   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
citizenone wrote:
Most public schools still offer a good education. Young people support gay rights because they have grown up with gays and know they are just like you and me, with hopes and dreams and fighting for civil rights.
Our public schools could and should be better, but have been gutted of the funds needed. Like many areas of our union, the money goes to the 2%, the banks, wall street instead of the commons.


Some public schools still offer a good education, many are a joke - particularly those in the major cities.
One can know and accept gays without endorsing gay marriage. If one thinks that gay marriage should be allowed because consenting adults should have the right to marry whomever they want, the same position should be applicable to those consenting adults who want to enter marriage arrangement with mulitple partners - or even those consenting adults who want to marry close relatives.

As to spending on education, by any measure we spend more now than any society anywhere ever, including in our own past. However much of that spending is used to indoctrinate, not educate.

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May 7, 2013 12:10:03   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Tasine wrote:
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Do you honestly believe what you have just written? Yes, we are better integrated, and I suppose that on the whole that is a good thing although schools were more civilized before integration. But what does it have to do with education? Unfortunately statistics on education come from the education industry primarily, and the industry isn't anxious to paint itself incompetent, which I feel it mostly is. A goodly portion of today's high school graduates cannot name the Vice President of their country, or the Speaker of the House. Nor can they figure out if they are paid the proper amount for a day's work if they don't have a handy calculator. I'll wager most can't name his basic rights as an American. I'll wager that most cannot locate England on a map if the names are not written on it. Do most of them know how America came to be free? Teachers are paid a LOT more - and more and more of them get into legal trouble because of ethics failures. More people graduate from high school, but do they know as much as 4th graders a century ago knew? No, I don't think they are as bright as some of the poorest scholars a century ago, primarily because discipline has disappeared along with morality and decency in the schools along with almost every other entity also declining.

Most young adults of today have been brainwashed, have been freed from moral standards, have gutless parents with no principles by which they live and raise their kids, and FAR TOO MANY don't even have two parents, or worse yet even ONE parent who tries to teach and mold the child so that he might have a fruitful life when he grows up. Teachers who MIGHT be of some use, are prevented from doing so by laws, by unions, by the ptb within their districts.

Am I jaundiced? You would bet I am! I am jaundiced, and I wish everyone would look at the world through my eyes - if they would, they too would be jaundiced.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ br Do you honestly believe what ... (show quote)


Last night in talking with my oldest son (32) we arrived at a real agreement about the things I bolded from you. We were discussing some things that kids are getting by with in our little high school and he opined as how they couldn't have done those things 13 years when he got out of school. The morals of these kids have dropped so much, mainly because of their parents not helping the school.

One big thing here is that some girls are taking pictures on their cell phones of the others in the showers from PE classes and then letting their boy friends (older) see the pictures. I said that I would take up all cell phones and if any slipped by me I would kick the slippers out of school. Some parents don't agree with that but they would have to fire me for trying to have some discipline which most of them don't have at home.

This lack of morals caused by lack of discipline didn't just happen. Those parents were taught that allowing kids to do things is the way to go. TAUGHT in school.

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May 7, 2013 12:13:07   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
[quote=Dave]Some public schools still offer a good education, many are a joke - particularly those in the major cities.
One can know and accept gays without endorsing gay marriage. If one thinks that gay marriage should be allowed because consenting adults should have the right to marry whomever they want, the same position should be applicable to those consenting adults who want to enter marriage arrangement with mulitple partners - or even those consenting adults who want to marry close relatives.

[b]As to spending on education, by any measure we spend more now than any society anywhere ever, including in our own past. However much of that spending is used to indoctrinate, not educate.[/b][/quote]

You are so right but libs just don't see that not throwing more and more money at a problem is not the way to right it.

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May 8, 2013 08:35:25   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
I believe there is an agenda...but the real reason people support gay marriage is the lack of respect for marriage itself. Single parent households have become the normal family. That is the true root of this issue: decay of what a normal family looks like.

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May 8, 2013 09:12:37   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
I believe there is an agenda...but the real reason people support gay marriage is the lack of respect for marriage itself. Single parent households have become the normal family. That is the true root of this issue: decay of what a normal family looks like.



You picked a good name.....dummy boy

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May 8, 2013 09:31:17   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
I believe there is an agenda...but the real reason people support gay marriage is the lack of respect for marriage itself. Single parent households have become the normal family. That is the true root of this issue: decay of what a normal family looks like.

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You are so right, it is downright painful!



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May 8, 2013 09:45:45   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
oldroy wrote:
Last night in talking with my oldest son (32) we arrived at a real agreement about the things I bolded from you. We were discussing some things that kids are getting by with in our little high school and he opined as how they couldn't have done those things 13 years when he got out of school. The morals of these kids have dropped so much, mainly because of their parents not helping the school.

One big thing here is that some girls are taking pictures on their cell phones of the others in the showers from PE classes and then letting their boy friends (older) see the pictures. I said that I would take up all cell phones and if any slipped by me I would kick the slippers out of school. Some parents don't agree with that but they would have to fire me for trying to have some discipline which most of them don't have at home.

This lack of morals caused by lack of discipline didn't just happen. Those parents were taught that allowing kids to do things is the way to go. TAUGHT in school.
Last night in talking with my oldest son (32) we a... (show quote)


Are you saying this is what you were taught in school? Or is this what your son was taught in school?

I don't think childrearing was covered in my school.

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May 8, 2013 10:04:36   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
Are you saying this is what you were taught in school? Or is this what your son was taught in school?

I don't think childrearing was covered in my school.


I think you may have misread what was written. I didn't see anything about childrearing being taught in any school.

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May 8, 2013 10:20:33   #
Terbreugghen
 
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
Are you saying this is what you were taught in school? Or is this what your son was taught in school?

I don't think childrearing was covered in my school.


Are we really unsure about whether kids should be taking pictures of one another in showers and posting on the web, or that our sense of public propriety, which would have shamed such actions, has dramatically slipped? Not to mention the apparent lack of ANY enforcement or threat of enforcement on the part of the school or legal system. (I'm sure there's more to the story than what we've seen, but sheesh, if only the fact itself is true, what have we wrought? What are we missing here? Yikes!

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May 8, 2013 10:30:36   #
Navysnipe Loc: Old West
 
Am I missing something here? I looked very closely, and could not tell where the poll was taken. If was taken in Sin Fransisco, then its believable. If it was taken in Idaho, then its not so believable. Polls are a joke! Remember 90% of americans are in favor of stricter gun control laws, based on a poll taken at universities in 3 blue states. How's that old saying go? If you want to tell a lie, the bigger the lie, the more the people will believe it. The longer you tell it, the more believable it will become.

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May 8, 2013 10:39:33   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
oldroy wrote:
Last night in talking with my oldest son (32) we arrived at a real agreement about the things I bolded from you. We were discussing some things that kids are getting by with in our little high school and he opined as how they couldn't have done those things 13 years when he got out of school. The morals of these kids have dropped so much, mainly because of their parents not helping the school.

One big thing here is that some girls are taking pictures on their cell phones of the others in the showers from PE classes and then letting their boy friends (older) see the pictures. I said that I would take up all cell phones and if any slipped by me I would kick the slippers out of school. Some parents don't agree with that but they would have to fire me for trying to have some discipline which most of them don't have at home.

This lack of morals caused by lack of discipline didn't just happen. Those parents were taught that allowing kids to do things is the way to go. TAUGHT in school.{emphasis added}
Last night in talking with my oldest son (32) we a... (show quote)


Ms. Tasine,

Pretty sure I didn't misread it. Only couple ways a body can know what is or is not taught in school, and the most common and most like to be true is it was taught the 'body, when they was in school.

Now, if it was by some other means, then the question doesn't limit him in no way from explainin' that. It's merely a suggestion that perhaps what one don't know, one shouldn't say. But I will reiterate for you that I wasn't taught that in school, and I haven't been out of school, all that long.

I don't disagree that discipline is lacking in the home. I don't think schooling is the cause.

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