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Jun 22, 2014 22:14:44   #
Don't hold your breath, Ron. We all know what Dutchie is. He doesn't do apologies. Just more hatred is spewed. Wish you luck, though. Maybe you can make a complete man not living the lie he is out of him.

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Rod Riddle wrote:
Tdsrnest posted the FBI article above. Dutchie owes me an apology and so do you. I'm leaving for our lunch engagement but tell Dutchie my hand is extended and out reaching towards him and a little peck won't hurt a bit! :) tata girl !!
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Jun 22, 2014 13:29:38   #
Rod Riddle wrote:
Because Mrs Lerner knows all the Republicans want to do is use her as a prop to Grandstand. It is beneath her to be used like that. No one within the IRS thought much about the computer crash because these sorts of things are common place. End of story!


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computer crashes of software are not uncommon. Crashes of the hard disk are not unheard of, but less common.common. Not being able to retrieve the data is way less common, at least what I've been told and read.

I am far from a computer expert. Very far. Maybe all that 'we can recover info on an erased hard drive" is all FBI bs to put the fear of law enforcement in us. But if they can do it for Joe Child Porn's computer or Mustafa Terrorist's computer, you'd think the feds could do it with one of their own.

Just sayin'
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Jun 22, 2014 13:23:28   #
tdsrnest wrote:
Yes I do I follow the investagation I look at dates and time frames. I try to take a common sense approach. Dates and time frames are important don't you think. Congress was notified of that crash back in 2011 but they bring it out now. With all the hearing and knowing about the crash why start this BS now

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What I find interesting is that the same IRS office also gave extra scrutiny to organizations that had the words "progressive" "occupy" and Israel" in them, but Issa said he only want to investigate those involving the tea party name. The others didn't fit into his partisan political attack.
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Jun 22, 2014 13:17:18   #
Do you happen to know who wrote "The Untold History of the United States?"

I can probably find it anyway, but it looks like it could be the subject of more than one book, the extensive nature of the subject.

The winners always write history. And as long time victors, we've written our share of revisionist history. Thanks for the suggestion. Going on an extended vacation (at least 30 if not 60 days or more. My first summer vacation in many years-I love semi-retirement. I may just stay up there.) in Vermont in a few days-it looks like a great vacation read.

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Patty wrote:
I will check it out. I read about the massive amounts of chemical weapons we were producing in WW1 and the staggering amount of damage that Washington was ready to inflict on the world. " The Untold History of the United States " is a real eye opener also.
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Jun 22, 2014 13:12:24   #
As I said, Turkey has had a secular government since 1023. They had a woman prime minister in the 1990s. They allowed the US to place nuclear missiles aimed at the USSR during the Cold War. They haven't been an enemy of the West since the Great War., which ended in 1918.

You wanna live in the past? Go ahead.

Turkey is the one nation in the Middle East that offers anything to the West. They desperately want to become part of NATO.

And your complaining that Turkey opposes Russia? That is a good thing according to those who want US military intervention in the Ukraine.

But if you h**e all things Islamic, I guess you're not going to come around anyway, any how.

PS: Not Turkish, but Serbian. And Serbs have no love lost for the Turks. Field of Blackbirds and all that. But I don't take a Serbian nationalist view of Turkey because I'm an American of Serbian descent, not a Serb who happens to live in the US.


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Randall_S wrote:
Hey, maybe you're Turkish. You paint a very rosy picture of nation of people who have been at war with the West for centuries. It's nothing against Turks, but their government has left the secularism that Ataturk gave it. They're back to the border wars with the Russians and Cossacks.

Saudi Arabia was never a country until TE Lawrence organized the Bedouins. Turkey has a history of empire, conquest, and subjugation.
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Jun 22, 2014 13:01:08   #
"The anti-christ will be coming from Turkey"? Hard to argue with that statement. And you talk about "spitting out b.s."?

I don't believe in making government policy from any religious texts, even one's I believe in. Thats why we have a secular government here as they do in turkey.

Comparing Turkey with Saudi Arabia is futile. Saudi arabia has oil, is ruled as a family business, makes s***ery legal and Christianity illegal.

Turkey may not be perfect but it is a far cry more liberal than any other government in the Middle East, including Israel, which is a Jewish theocracy.

Yes, Turkey has oppressed the Kurds and Armenians but it also has taken imperfect steps to reverse this tendency.

Turkey has been an important ally since WWII allowing the US to station nuclear missiles aimed at Russia during the Cold War.

It is also a secular government.

Read Kindross' "The Ottoman Centuries." Look up exactly what a who the Janissaries were. Hey, some of the sultans from the old Ottoman Empire were liberal compared to Saudi Arabia today.

Or "The House of Saud." by Lacy.

Reading the Bible will give you nothing on what Secular policy in our government should or shouldn't be. It is a religious text. You claim that we should follow it but that the Muslims are crazy fanatics for following the Koran.

Oh, yeah, because the Bible's right and the Koran is wrong. I forgot.



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cant beleve wrote:
Watch... Your blind. Turkey is allowing all of the rebels to flow into Syria causing hundreds of Christians to be k**led. Erdogen is planning on taking Christianity's oldest cathedral the Sophia hagia and turning it from a museum into a mosque. The coming anti Christ will come from Turkey. The bible in the old testament is constantly speaking of Pergamon that's modern day Turkey. And God is not happy . learn your Bible and you will see the t***h. Bet you did not even look at the link... Just spitted out b. S. Typical left way of looking at life changing issues. Blame Saudi Arabia. I don't likeS.A. either. If you'd watched you'd of seen the demon worship I spoke of was Sufi Islam from Saudi Arabia. Numbskull.
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Jun 21, 2014 21:56:22   #
Christianity is ILLEGAL in Saudi Arabia. In Turkey, there is along history of Christianity existing side by side with the Turkish brand of Islam.

What side do you think is more culpable in the current Middle Eastern situation?

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cant beleve wrote:
Here. Is the peaceful Muslims that the west blindly calls "mystical" watch the videos posted on this sight and see if demon possession doesn't spring to mind
http://shoebat.com/2014/06/21/islamic-state-iraq-syria-joined-jihadist-demon-worshippers/
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Jun 21, 2014 21:52:51   #
Right oh,Vehole, who posts he's "real man of action -a combat vet" A regular GI Joe.

As I said, I've been more than forthright yet you've been rather vague.

But you don't want to engage in debate-you just want to insult. You have no defense for you're point of view-you just want to insult. You have no answers,-just insults.

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Ve'hoe wrote:
You, know what you need to do,,,, just tell the t***h instead of more of your bulls**t
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Jun 21, 2014 15:18:43   #
I don't think the Founding Fathers ever envisioned an interventionist foreign policy that we've had since the late 19th Century.

Sure the US went to war with the Barbary pirates early in the nation's history, but only because the were interfering with US shipping on the high seas and with trade the US conducted with nations that wanted to do trade with the US.

Same with the War of 1812. We went to war with Britain because Britain was interfering with US trade on the high seas.

The war against the Spanish in the late 19th Century, banana wars of the early 20th and the undeclared wars of post WWII era were only designed to allow multi-nationals to do their mischief wherever in the world they wanted. It wasn't that nations that wanted to trade with the US were prevented from doing so. It was nations who had US intervention to install governments that would do trade with the US under any terms desired by the "Boys in the Back Room" as USMC Gen. Smeadly Butler called them.

"I was a gangster for capitalism………….. I could have taught Al Capone a thing or two. He operated in three cities. I operated on four continents. " USMC Gen. Smeadly Butler, circ. 1930s. ************************************************************************************************

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Ve'hoe.....................
Ever consider the e******n of this Qatari Agent, Mufti-Barry, is the reason why they feel their mission is unstoppable and predetermined, it is as far as I can tell, the other way around, your job was not allowed to finish to its conclusion, you never were allowed to finish the job, the U.S. Armed Forces was defeated from within, the job was well done but not finished, it was c*********d by a "Progressive" element, not even remotely concerned about "Victory" but a politically-correct way to capitulate and dishonor those who gave their lives to defend this Country, nevermind the "T***sfundamentalist" treason to the Constitution and those who defend it, after the 1968-69 Tet Offensive in Vietnam, the Vietcong, N.V.A.R. and the Chinese Regulars were defeated militarily but the 'political-politicized' L.B.J. Administration suspended the bombing of North Vietnam, all operations across the Cambodian and Laotian border's search and destroy missions, redefined the rules of engagement (sound familiar?) and replaced the most effective Commander General Westmoreland, with General Craighton Abrams (Abrams Tank) a W.W. II decorated veteran of the European War, but not versed in this new guerrilla no rules war, making him adhere to a (win the hearts) campaign of politically-correct war of kindness, destroying his reputation with an as yet unseen number of K.I.A.'s this along with the 'draft' that threw civilian soldiers without need; the troop surges are nothing but an increase of targets for the enemy, it was at this point in that war, the K.I.A.'s reached their highest levels, just as with the 2008 numbers for K.I.A.'s in Afghanistan was under 400 as of December 30th. but by 2009 these numbers had increased by 62% and have increased as if keeping parity with the deficit at over 100% on December 31st. of 2012, it is not a job too well done, it is a job stopped before its conclusion; that is problem among many and among these, is how to regain the Constitution stop arming the enemy but most of all how did we end up on the side of enemy, allowing a religious Genocide to persist, increase and be an acceptable policy for this cretin Mufti-al'Buraq-Husseyn-Obama and his Qatari agents, handlers and enemies of the United States, no Ve'hoe the problem is the job is about to begin again but this time it will be here first line of defense has been penetrated, that was the Letter of the Law, according to the Constitution, a perimeter that we cannot afford to loose any further than it has been as of now.
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Jun 21, 2014 15:00:45   #
Patty wrote:
Bush willingness to play his part in the quest for a NWO global hegemony with a lie resulted in the un necessary death of our people and the innocent people of another country. He should be in jail.
That is why he cant leave the country because he would be face a war crimes tribunal. Cheney had to cancel his trip to Toronto due to calls for his arrest.

Number Of Iraqis Slaughtered In US War And Occupation Of Iraq "1,455,590"

Number of U.S. Military Personnel Sacrificed (Officially acknowledged) In U.S. War And Occupation Of Iraq 4,801

Number Of International Occupation Force Troops Slaughtered In Afghanistan : 3,453

Cost of War in Iraq & Afghanistan
$1,543,270,093,934
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Thank you Patty- you're a righty, but one who at times looks past the rhetoric of the left and the right to cast an jaundiced eye on both sides of the fence.

In Bush is was incautious behavior, with Obama it's overly cautious. Both have a downside.

If you ever get a chance, unless you have read already, please try and read Carroll Quimbly's works on Cecil Rhodes and the arms merchants of Europe 1870-1914. Or Manchester's "The Arms of Krupp" about the German arms maker who helped push Europe into World Wars One and Two. The Swedish subsidiary of Krupp was one who sold arms to both sides throughout the entirety of World War Two. DuPont tried, but FDR had the feds throw the German scientists out of American plants where they were learning about the newest methods in making explosives.

Not much difference today except that DuPont has expanded to a truly global presence as the world's largest corporate polluter.

The multi-nationals know no national borders or fealty. Their fealty is only to maximum profits by any means necessary even if it results in massive human suffering.

And Congress, as well as the president, is in their pocket. No wonder our convoluted tax code hasn't been revised and simplified into a flat tax.

"Anyone capable of getting elected president shouldn't be allowed to hold the job." Douglas Adams.
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Jun 21, 2014 02:11:17   #
Right-we have to do "something" to keep these hordes on the path to democracy, hey?

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. Our intervention in the Middle East isn't likely to produce stable democracies, just as it hasn't in Latin America, afghanistan or Southeast Asia, including Vietnam.


Keep fighting? Why? If the nations of Europe, much closer to the action than the US don't see any reason, why should we?


Our enemies haven't taken over America. We've been telling other countries how to run their governments for more than a hundred years without success. What makes you think it will work this time?

"keep it free and functioning"? Where have we done that since 1953?

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Ve'hoe wrote:
We beat down all the enemies, so the weak and confused took over America and don't know how to run the country, how to react to the predators of the world, and are running us into the ground by not listening.... I always say that the l*****t somehow thinks his "totally creamy liberal-ness and love for all" is somehow responsible for the peace America enjoys,,, not every realizing or understanding the hordes of murderous a-holes we have to fight to keep it free and functioning....... they think somehow, it is they who are responsible.........
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Jun 21, 2014 02:04:46   #
I'm pretty sure the early and significant backer of ISIS has been the Saudis. Turkey? Not so much. The last thing they want is a united front on their southern border.

Yet we continue to kiss the Saudi's asses after their supper for bin Laden and every other Sunni Islamic fundamentalist group in the Middle East. Turkey, not so much.

Turkey working with Iraq? Where do you get that nugget? Turkey has worked for Turkey for decades. Read Kindross' "The Ottoman Centuries" for a little more insight into Turkish-Sunni relations in the Middle East. What is today Iraq was part of the Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years before the Brits and the French took a ruler to form what is today Iraq.

Yet the Brits and the French, or the Germans, all much closer to Iraq than the US, don't seem to be jumping into the breech. Wonder why? Iraq is their creation (the Brits and the French). Let them deal with it.


bdamage wrote:
Qatar part of the Sunni alliance with the leopard(Turkey)?


Iraq Is Collapsing And The Antichrist’s Iranian-Turkish SINISTER Plan Is Unfolding Right Before Our Eyes
By Walid Shoebat (Shoebat Exclusive) June 19, 2014

Turkey’s Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has warned the U.S. of the risks of launching air strikes against the ISIS in Iraq claiming concern about the fate of dozens of Turkish citizens captured last week by the ISIS. But all this is a ruse; Turkey cares less about the dozens of captured Turkish citizens when it was Turkey who aided the ISIS in the first place.

The whole fiasco is a master plan with Turkey working alongside Iran to divide the region.
http://shoebat.com/2014/06/19/iraq-collapsing-antichrists-iranian-turkish-sinister-plan-unfolding-right-eyes/
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Jun 21, 2014 01:56:20   #
The difference between Libya and Iraq? About 4,500 US lives, not including private contracts.

And the absence of US troops on the ground. And the support of the NATO alliance, in Libya which was totally absent in Iraq.

Like Quaddfai (sp?) , Saddam Hussein was an ally with the West in the war on Islamic fundamentalism. Just alike Assad in Syria was an ally, ally enough to where the administration of President George W. Bush sent terrorist suspects to Syria in Bush's illegal "extraordinary rendition" program for torture.

And the fact that the people of Libya were already up in arms shedding blood to o*******w their dictator. Iraq was contained to the point where theUS no-fly zone had allowed Kurds has been able to set up their own self-government in the north with fear of further gas attacks (by SH with intel provided by the US government) or air attack after the Bush I war in Iraq.

In Iraq, the US had basically given the green light to SH to do as he pleased, including a pass on the Iraqi attack on the USS Stark. The Bush I administration had said 'we won't get involved on Arab on Arab disputes" just before SH invaded Kuwait in 1991 after Iraq had long complained about Kuwait's practice of diagonal drilling into Iraqi oil fields.

You want me to go on? I can, but please answer these points first.



Randall_S wrote:
What’s the difference between Iraq today and Libya in 2011? Qatar, the tiny Gulf state sponsor of terror, was for intervention in Libya, but is against intervention in Iraq. In Libya, Obama preemptively ordered NATO airstrikes on the forces of Muammar Gaddafi, allegedly to prevent genocide. Obama explained this reasoning in a speech on March 28, 2011, saying that he acted to stop a massacre that would have “stained the conscience of the world.” Obama continued, “I refused to wait for the images of slaughter and mass graves before taking action.” In Iraq today, we have photos and videos of mass slaughter by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS). Obama’s response to an actual genocide, complete with broadcast evidence, is to rule out airstrikes.

In Libya, NATO air power was used against the secular Gaddafi regime that had been cooperating with the United States to fight terrorism. The air support benefited al Qaeda forces, who were a bulk of the rebels, and their sponsor state, Qatar. Qatar had troops on the ground in Libya and even conducted airstrikes of their own. Reminder: Libya today is in a state of total chaos.

In Iraq, as [al Qaeda spinoff] ISIS heads toward Baghdad, marauding villages and committing war crimes, a former Qatari Ambassador to the U.S. warned that any American strike on ISIS would be “seen as another conspiracy against Sunni.” One day later, Obama ruled out air strikes against ISIS.

The Qatari Ambassador continued, essentially defending ISIS: “[W]e must take into account the fact that injustice, exclusion, marginalization [by the Iraqi government has] fuel[ed] violence and contributed to its expansion.” American Secretary of State, John Kerry, echoed the Qatari the same day: “We’ve … had great difficulties with the existing government in their unwillingness to reach out and be inclusive.”

Both the United States and Qatar have been providing arms and other supplies to Syrian rebels, who are also al Qaeda jihadis. (Qatar even supplied heat-seeking shoulder-fired missiles.) Some of these weapons have, to no one’s surprise, made their way over the border into Iraq. Notice the genocider of ISIS holding a brand new American-made M-16 in this picture. They’re now being used against the nominally American-allied government of Nouri al-Maliki.

The United States, and (Muslim Brotherhood-run) Turkey actually trained ISIS on a secret base in Jordan in 2012. Last month, PBS reported that the United States was training Syrian rebels (i.e. al Qaeda) on a secret base in Qatar, where the rebels were taught how to murder survivors of car bombings. (Note: Murdering survivors is against all U.S. military protocols.)

How does Obama feel about Iraq falling to jihadis? After the attacks of September 11, 2012 in B******i, he infamously flew to Las Vegas to attend a campaign fundraiser. Likewise, while Iraq turns into a jihadi hellhole, the “president” went golfing.

Obama, in January, dismissed the threat from al Qaeda, calling their current manifestation “the JV team.” Seeing as how AQ groups current dominate events in Libya, Syria, and Iraq, you could say they’re more powerful than ever.

Questions: Is the Columbia and Harvard-educated president, who receives intelligence briefings daily, a genuine moron? Or is he intentionally deceiving the people? Consider Qatar’s hand in these debacles, and then come to the more likely conclusion.

P.S., while you are considering… On May 28, Obama delivered the commencement speech at West Point, outlining how America will scale back its security footprint internationally. Graduate Hamad Victor N**im, the son of Emir Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, the Emir of Qatar until earlier this year, became the first Qatari to receive a diploma from “Harvard on the Hudson.” Three days later, Bowe Bergdahl was swapped for five senior Taliban commanders who now reside luxuriously in Qatar.

Coincidence?
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Jun 21, 2014 01:40:39   #
Rod Riddle wrote:
Hungry Freaks I like you! :)


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Your real test is if you can bring dutchie out of his repressed inner self.

You have gut to face this pack of righties, and the severely h********c dutchie. But stick to the debate. Don't let them d**g you down to the name-calling contest.

The name of this thread is "are yo a bigot?" Everybody has their own prejudices. My is with overweight people and with right wing fringe types trying to pass themselves off as conservatives. I'm sure you have your.

The question is why does dutchie has such a hard-on (please excuse the phrase) for homosexuals? While not all homophobes are repressed homosexuals, to the degree of which dutchie's hatred and alleged acts of violence towards same sex attractions is as extreme as I've ever seen.

Why all the fuss? I'm a flaming heterosexual, so I can't being to plunge, so to speak, into duchies outer hatred and inner self loathing. Mabe you can help.

PS: dutchie is famous for twisting your quotes like his good friend like Vehole. Don't be spurized. They both love Pastor Ted, the meth-snorting, gay bashing pastor who recently admitted to his same sex "addiction" Please set them straight, so to speak.
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Jun 20, 2014 20:37:12   #
Patty wrote:
Because when Obama speaks in a different language it is the one of our enemy and calls it the most beautiful language on earth. That is inappropriate.


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No words out of your mouth, but words off of your finger stories on the keyboard.

OK, the "Bush is as pure as the driven snow" is inferred. I've said all along that Obama is nothing but another member of the Bush Crime Family, as was Clinton.
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