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Jul 5, 2014 11:44:36   #
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America's a time bomb
JFlorio wrote:
Ok genius. How are we fearful of c*****e c****e? I spend exactly 0% of my day worrying about c*****e c****e. How are you going to deal with c*****e c****e? Many Americans are fearful of the invasion at the southern border. Doesn't matter what color they are. We are inviting in a bunch of poor uneducated possibly diseased people who are going to accelerate the welfare state. Just what are you doing to prepare for that? You use nice big words. I can only assume you are an educated i***t oh yea an indoctrinated i***t.
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ignoring it or lambasting it , both actions portray a mindset based in denial, the data is there all you have to do is read and heed
The term educated i***t is an oxymoron , and I am educated but not an i***t (you come closer to that than I) , and from your words I believe you are subject to indoctrination much more than me , you should get more education and a remedial course in logic
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Jul 5, 2014 10:58:15   #
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America's a time bomb
alabuck wrote:
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Quite using words "could have" and pretending they mean "will." BS-Scare tactic. We'll not take power generation off line unless we have a means to replace it. These regs won't take full effect until 2030; if then.


the problem for the deniers is they are one fearful of change and have no clear idea of how to deal with the changes coming , so the result for many of the deniers is either cognitive dissonance or outright aggressive speech and the retreat in to protective dogma , so trying to use facts they choose to not like they then refute them and there is a lot of change happening , c*****e c****e is one really big one and I believe we are on the edge of going from prevention to mitigation (IMHO we should have began co-2 emission reduction during the Carter administration)
another area of contention is the demographic changes taking place and all the obstacles being put in place to disenfranchise those of different ethnicity (it is a losing proposition for the resisters to change but they will try)
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May 9, 2014 02:54:09   #
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The Blind Ugliness of OPP
slatten49 wrote:
This is not the first time I have quoted this from a forgotten source: "The complexity and reality of life will always explode rigid ideology."

Also, a quote from Mark Twain: "Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul."

Once again, both quotes seem pertinent.


To quote St Cyrill ,the problem with the human condition is the human condition,or as Pogo said we have meet the enemy and he is us
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May 6, 2014 22:55:50   #
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More sanctions
danclone1 wrote:
My point was that we were talking about Ukraine and Russian denial of involvement there.But the story about Russia non involvement was spoken in Russian,on a Russian tv network.sorry if there was any misunderstanding


Sorry that you think that I believe your opinions have no validity , but your opinions tend to mirror the main stream media here at home , I do get different opinions from people who are closer to the situation and yes there is probably covert Russian involvement , and there is covert western involvement most notably the United States and Poland is being used as a proxy for United States action, portraying Putin as evil is not a good idea as it is inaccurate , he is very interested in the welfare of the ethnic Russians in the Ukraine , the EU ,NATO and the United States are not as interested in their welfare and those three probably consider them acceptable loses , the 48 people k**led in Odessa and the lack of condemnation from the U.S. media gives credence to that (those 48 Russians were corned in a building and fire bombed until they were all dead ) , I think the real thugs are in the Kiev government or do you find those actions acceptable because I don't
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May 6, 2014 20:04:17   #
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More sanctions
danclone1 wrote:
I tried listening to your last" unbiased"news feed but unfortunately I don't speak russian


Pervyy dumat' kak russkiy, I do speak Russian , and it says first think like a Russian, I can also write it in Cyrillic if you like , I have been talking to friends I have in Russia , Belarus and Germany I also speak read and write German , and your opinions are not very accurate or close to the t***h
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May 6, 2014 17:24:53   #
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More sanctions
jonhatfield wrote:
Russian sites. :-P So Patty is stating what Putin is denying, that Russians "are actually there"....promoting and organizing pro-Russian vigilante actions is what is reported by the "bought" American mainstream media...or as Patty so revealingly names, the "presstitudes."

Has Patty ever ever taken other viewpoints into consideration as possibly relevant to the t***h of the situation?


If you would apply logic to your facts you would see the serious discrepancies that exist in what you believe to be the t***h
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May 6, 2014 09:34:06   #
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More sanctions
Patty wrote:
jonnie thinks everything is the same as it was in 1950. He doesn't like facts or current events. You are wasting your time on him Blue. He would stick his fingers in his ears and close his eyes if he were standing right there in Odessa watching it.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


Yes the Russians in the eastern portion of the Ukraine are fearful of the N**is in the Kiev government they believe the extreme elements that passed anti-Russian laws still control the government there and if the Ukrainian Russians lay down their arms they will be persecuted , there is a high level of distrust there and it is going to take a lot to assuage those fears and come to an equitable solution
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May 5, 2014 21:59:25   #
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More sanctions
jonhatfield wrote:
Gee, we have been busy bombers haven't we. I suppose we should have stayed out of making Japan a nation of freedom and self-govt. and major economic success, likewise in Korea. I suppose we should have stayed out of Yugo and Bosnia and Kosovo and allowed exterminations to continue, left Kuwait to its fate, etc. etc. etc.

Did Old Gringo say something about burying our heads in the sand?? Oh, that was on another thread? where I was alleged to have my head buried in the sand. ha.

Well, better sanctions than bombing, huh?? Oh, you disapprove of any action? none against Hitler? none against Stalin? none against Khadafi? none against Serbian exterminators? none against Russian aggression in Georgia, Ukraine? Really, none? ...but of course Russian actions against Ukraine or Georgia are not only OK but glorious in Putiny Patty's mind, huh?!!

:roll: :roll: :roll:
Gee, we have been busy bombers haven't we. I suppo... (show quote)



your statement about Georgia is way off base , the Georgians started k*****g first by bombarding the capital of South Ossetia and the Russians were peace keepers there and they were attacked also, so the Russians did attack to save peoples lives , please get your history right not as you would like it
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May 5, 2014 21:22:19   #
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More sanctions
jonhatfield wrote:
Really? Really? You have inside info on Obama's geopolitical planning and intentions?

Allow me to remind you that Obama's main personal disappointment in geopolitics has been his inability to accomplish the positive "re-set" he aspired to in relations between the Free World and America and Russia.

One of the great ironies in America's geopolitical situation today is that the three American politicians most opposed to war and hostilities--Kerry, Biden, and Obama--have been forced by awkward circumstances to direct hostile actions against Kadafi in Libya, Assad in Syria, against Russian aggression in Ukraine, possibly against Iran & against North Korea. They have been careful not to get too radical or entangled but appear ready to do what is necessary in a world where Russia has taken a rogue f*****t turn. No Chamberlain scenario to enable Putin to do another Hitler.

Or is this picture of Kerry/Biden/Obama totally wrong...and they were plotting all along these 6 years to steal Russia's Black Sea port like you claimed? You really believe that?? Really? :roll: :roll:
Really? Really? You have inside info on Obama's ge... (show quote)


I realize you do not like Obama and that is ok , but Putin would not risk antagonizing the west over something small and the Sevastopol naval base is critical to control in the black sea and whoever controls the Black Sea controls the flow of oil in the area , and no I do not know the mind of Putin no more than you know the mind of Obama , but I have many friends in Russia and Belarus and I speak, read and write Russian and it is the consensus of my friends that Putin feared the Crimea takeover and acted accordingly
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May 5, 2014 20:17:33   #
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More sanctions
Patty wrote:
No but they had a plan going to impeach Yanukovych even Putin called him corrupt.
We should not have been using NGO's in this country to put into office who we want there. You do know that Washington has already stolen the Ukrainian people gold.
http://www.hangthebankers.com/ukraines-gold-reserves-sent-to-ny-federal-reserve/
Like Putin said "It is none of our business and we should stay out of it"

Nuland and here leaked phone conversation that clearly stated that we were behind the protests to force a non democratic regime change was the proof that we were interfering.



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

Then the leaked phone call where Paet told Ashton that we were behind the first attack that k**led 100 people with regime paid snipers .
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/05/world/europe/ukraine-leaked-audio-recording/index.html

Then when Tymoshenko got caught in another leaked phone call saying she was going to k**l the 8 million Russians left in Ukraine Putin had to say " Enough, you will not k**l Russians there"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6RxSzSWbcxo

Its a mess and the West was the ones who created it with their hegemony plans to surround Russias Western border.
No but they had a plan going to impeach Yanukovych... (show quote)


Not to interrupt your thread but the whole point of the moves made in the Ukraine was access to Sevastapol naval facilities,and when Putin trumped the EU,NATO and the United States now the west is left with the mess it created and has no real plan for the divisions in the Ukraine ,and the Russians in the Ukraine see the extremists as a threat to their security and have reacted accordingly
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Apr 22, 2014 18:34:34   #
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Lavrov: US should face responsibility for powers it installed in Kiev
Patty wrote:
They are still there Blue. Google "Svoboda". That is who Nuland was paying off through NGO's and handing cookies out to in that video.


I wonder how the Ukrainian government is going to control them , looks like they have a tiger by the tail , it is kind of ironic svoboda means freedom and that is the last thing they are interested in,svobodna ne svoboda-freedom is not free
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Apr 22, 2014 17:55:28   #
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Lavrov: US should face responsibility for powers it installed in Kiev
Constitutional libertarian wrote:
Sorry in a bad cell area, unable to watch at this time but will later.

But Aka Patty, like I said there is a lot of history in play there. Stalin purposefully starved millions of Ukrainians so he could repopulate the area with ethnic Russians. There is a lot of bent up hostility from past atrocities.


Yes and the Germans created some of the most feared SS units in the Ukraine , that hunted Jews, Poles , Orthodox priests and others, so the Ukrainians are not with out sin
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Apr 22, 2014 17:48:10   #
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Earth Day—High Holy Day of Paganism
OldSchool wrote:
V****g for radical Democrats for just one.


how is that destroying America , the conservatives have done more damage than the Democrats in the last 12 years , just what is your logic, the problem with politics and dogma is the humans that create those constructs , and it is our God given free will that creates the differences that you dislike so much
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Apr 22, 2014 14:24:29   #
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Earth Day—High Holy Day of Paganism
OldSchool wrote:
Well, you know what they say about opinions, pal. They're like assholes, everyone has one.

BTW, liberals h**e America...if you say you don't, then I have to ask "why are you trying to destroy it?"


tell me just how are us liberals trying to destroy our country I am curious how you think us liberals plan to do that
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Apr 22, 2014 12:39:41   #
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Earth Day—High Holy Day of Paganism
OldSchool wrote:
Don't like them dumbass? Don't read them. I sure as hell haven't read anything of substance that you have posted...just a lot of libtard rubbish and moronic ramblings.

I don't h**e Americans, I just h**e liberals, because they h**e America.


you h**e gee that is such a great Christian attitude , and liberals do not h**e America , we just disagree with you and that is not the same as hating America , but go ahead and spew all the venom you want and then call yourself a good Christian , like most on the conservative right you are full of those paradoxical hypocrisies
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