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Apr 7, 2015 03:02:43   #
ninetogo wrote:
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Three points that I want to make:

1) Many on this board agree with a multitude of your post but that does not mean we agree with all of them; That means that we are not your enemy. Save the rancor for your philosophical enemies and not those in which it is undeserved and unwarranted.

2)You are constantly b***h slapping people that state an opinion counter to yours. Stop that! Some believe that the 'elites' of this world are pulling the strings. If you disagree, state your reasons why you disagree! Prove them wrong with facts, not with the verbal left hook and nothing else to back up your view. You bring too much to the table to leave a bitter taste in the mouth of those that might read your post and actually agree with you.

3) Many people on this board float a trial balloon looking to solicit the opinions of others. Is that not why we are here? Who in the hell elected you as hall monitor. Everyone on the board has a perfect right to express their opinion, minus the verbal ass whipping that you so frequently like to dish out.

Several on this board act like the playground bullies and several others are so hard line that their post t***slates into indoctrination sessions. I, for one, have started filtering out the posters that bring nothing positive to the discussion and focus on the ones that actually contribute A meaningful post. To save yourself some stress, you may want to follow suit.
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Thank you, I am about ready to move on. People belittle each other and the name calling. Fine if you disagree, I get that, but calling names and making fun of someones religion? Come on, we're suppose to be grown.
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Apr 2, 2015 10:12:03   #
jack sequim wa wrote:
When Obama took office in 2008 there was a great deal of concern that he would seek to destroy the US-Israel relationship. Fears of him having a bias against Israel subsided when he reaffirmed the strong ties that America had with the Jewish state. Obama even told the American Israel Public Affairs Conference that Jerusalem ought to remain an undivided capital.

If Obama's original objective was to turn America against Israel, he wouldn't have been able to do it right away. Congress and the v**ers would have turned against him. What we've seen played out over the past seven years is the most logical strategy for someone seeking to erode the bonds between America and Israel. Here is a brief timeline that shows how the mood has changed:

March 2009, The Obama Administration joined the United Nations Human Rights Council, which dev**ed excessive attention to alleged abuses by Israel and too little to abuses in places such as Darfur, Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe."

April 2010: Obama refuses to prevent the Washington summit on nuclear proliferation from becoming an Arab referendum on the evils of Israel's nukes.

May 2011: The State Department labeled Jerusalem not a part of Israel. The same month, Obama demanded that Israel make concessions to the Palestinians based on the pre-1967 borders.

May 2013: Members of the Obama Pentagon, leak information that Israel attacked the Damascus airport to stop a shipment of weapons to terrorist groups. Obama officials actually had to apologize for this leak, since it endangered American lives.

August 2014: In the middle of a shooting war, Obama stopped a weapons shipment to Israel. According to the Wall Street Journal, Obama found out that Israel asked the Defense Department for shipments of Hellfire missiles. Obama personally stepped in and blocked the shipments. [1]


As far as 2015 goes, the anti-Israel rhetoric from Obama has gone off the scale. At this point in his presidency, Obama has abandoned all pretense of friendship with Israel. He is doing everything in his power to undermine that nation. Obama sent a campaign team to Israel to sway the e******n. He declared that the "occupation" of Palestinian land must end, and he is proposing to end the American veto block of UN Security Council resolutions that regularly condemns Israel.

Anyone having doubts that Obama is a secret Muslim would only need to watch President Obama's Nowruz message to the Iranian people. Since Nowruz is the traditional Iranian festival of spring and the start of the next calendar cycle, he found it necessary to wish the people of Iran a happy New Year.

This is the same Iran that has another national holiday called "Death to America Day" on the 4th of November. It is also the same country that seeks to dominate the Middle East. It is pure insanity for our president to be blowing kisses to a nation that despises everything we value.

We descended one more level into the world of the bizarre when Obama said he takes Iran's supreme leader, Sayyid Ali Khamenei at his word, citing his fatwa against the development of nuclear weapons. Since the Koran gives justifications for Muslims to lie to their enemies, it's foolish for any Western leader to trust an Islamic based-ruling. We don't need to know that Khamenei is a liar to know his fatwa is worthless. I wouldn't trust anyone speaking openly about the destruction of Israel:

"It is the mission of the Islamic Republic of Iran to erase Israel from the map of the region." (2002)

"Israel is a hideous entity in the Middle East which will undoubtedly be annihilated." (2010)

"The great powers have dominated the destiny of the Islamic countries for years and... installed the Z*****t cancerous tumor in the heart of the Islamic world... Many of the problems facing the Muslim world are due to the existence of the Z*****t regime." (2012) [2]

Bible prophecy strongly indicates that Israel will be isolated in the last-days. We may soon see some event that will give Obama justification for ending all political and economic support of Israel. The possible causes are endless, but what is now certain is Obama's anti-Israel reaction.

Of course, our dear American president is playing with fire when he ignores God's warning that all nations that curse Israel will be cursed by Him. His desire to make friends with Israel's enemies makes God's wrath all the more likely.

"I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you" (Genesis 12:2-3)
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I think that is what I was driving at.. No, I am not anti Semite, no, I am not a r****t. I didn't mean Israel was gonna be destroyed off the face of the map, but, how do you think it will look when Lebanon, Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas, Egypt, Palestinians, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Iran and Iraq start dropping bombs on it? Would "almost destroyed" take me off your Sh*t list??
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Apr 2, 2015 10:11:24   #
jack sequim wa wrote:
When Obama took office in 2008 there was a great deal of concern that he would seek to destroy the US-Israel relationship. Fears of him having a bias against Israel subsided when he reaffirmed the strong ties that America had with the Jewish state. Obama even told the American Israel Public Affairs Conference that Jerusalem ought to remain an undivided capital.

If Obama's original objective was to turn America against Israel, he wouldn't have been able to do it right away. Congress and the v**ers would have turned against him. What we've seen played out over the past seven years is the most logical strategy for someone seeking to erode the bonds between America and Israel. Here is a brief timeline that shows how the mood has changed:

March 2009, The Obama Administration joined the United Nations Human Rights Council, which dev**ed excessive attention to alleged abuses by Israel and too little to abuses in places such as Darfur, Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe."

April 2010: Obama refuses to prevent the Washington summit on nuclear proliferation from becoming an Arab referendum on the evils of Israel's nukes.

May 2011: The State Department labeled Jerusalem not a part of Israel. The same month, Obama demanded that Israel make concessions to the Palestinians based on the pre-1967 borders.

May 2013: Members of the Obama Pentagon, leak information that Israel attacked the Damascus airport to stop a shipment of weapons to terrorist groups. Obama officials actually had to apologize for this leak, since it endangered American lives.

August 2014: In the middle of a shooting war, Obama stopped a weapons shipment to Israel. According to the Wall Street Journal, Obama found out that Israel asked the Defense Department for shipments of Hellfire missiles. Obama personally stepped in and blocked the shipments. [1]


As far as 2015 goes, the anti-Israel rhetoric from Obama has gone off the scale. At this point in his presidency, Obama has abandoned all pretense of friendship with Israel. He is doing everything in his power to undermine that nation. Obama sent a campaign team to Israel to sway the e******n. He declared that the "occupation" of Palestinian land must end, and he is proposing to end the American veto block of UN Security Council resolutions that regularly condemns Israel.

Anyone having doubts that Obama is a secret Muslim would only need to watch President Obama's Nowruz message to the Iranian people. Since Nowruz is the traditional Iranian festival of spring and the start of the next calendar cycle, he found it necessary to wish the people of Iran a happy New Year.

This is the same Iran that has another national holiday called "Death to America Day" on the 4th of November. It is also the same country that seeks to dominate the Middle East. It is pure insanity for our president to be blowing kisses to a nation that despises everything we value.

We descended one more level into the world of the bizarre when Obama said he takes Iran's supreme leader, Sayyid Ali Khamenei at his word, citing his fatwa against the development of nuclear weapons. Since the Koran gives justifications for Muslims to lie to their enemies, it's foolish for any Western leader to trust an Islamic based-ruling. We don't need to know that Khamenei is a liar to know his fatwa is worthless. I wouldn't trust anyone speaking openly about the destruction of Israel:

"It is the mission of the Islamic Republic of Iran to erase Israel from the map of the region." (2002)

"Israel is a hideous entity in the Middle East which will undoubtedly be annihilated." (2010)

"The great powers have dominated the destiny of the Islamic countries for years and... installed the Z*****t cancerous tumor in the heart of the Islamic world... Many of the problems facing the Muslim world are due to the existence of the Z*****t regime." (2012) [2]

Bible prophecy strongly indicates that Israel will be isolated in the last-days. We may soon see some event that will give Obama justification for ending all political and economic support of Israel. The possible causes are endless, but what is now certain is Obama's anti-Israel reaction.

Of course, our dear American president is playing with fire when he ignores God's warning that all nations that curse Israel will be cursed by Him. His desire to make friends with Israel's enemies makes God's wrath all the more likely.

"I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you" (Genesis 12:2-3)
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I think that is what I was driving at.. No, I am not anti Semite, no, I am not a r****t. I didn't mean Israel was gonna be destroyed off the face of the map, but, how do you think it will look when Lebanon, Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas, Egypt, Palestinians, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Iran and Iraq start dropping bombs on it? Would "almost destroyed" take me off your Sh*t list??
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Apr 2, 2015 09:46:56   #
Never think you've seen the last of anything.
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Apr 2, 2015 08:05:30   #
Another thing that has bothered me is what "higher up" in the Obama administration called Netanyahu a chicken sh*t and Why???
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Apr 2, 2015 06:48:06   #
Many have been saying Obama is on the side of the Iranians. I don't think Obama is working FOR Iran, I believe he is working to force Israel to destroy Iran. Israel will then be blamed for starting WW3 causing other nations to rise up against Israel. Both nations will then be destroyed...
Barack Obama knows IRAN is committed to destroying Israel.. OBAMA is the one that keeps trying and initiating consecutive meetings to finalize a Nuclear deal..... Obama (a dev**ed Sunni Muslim) stated in his OWN book called "Audacity of Hope" that "If the political winds shift in a ugly direction, I will always stand with the Muslim people." -Barack Hussein Obama (Audacity of Hope).
If Obama (a Sunni Muslim) can start a war between Israel and Iran (Shiite Muslims), then Israel will be getting rid of Obama's enemies. Sunnis are sworn enemies of Shiites....

"I know not what weapons WW3 will be fought with, but WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones." -Albert Einstein .
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Apr 2, 2015 06:14:30   #
RETW wrote:
Because of my age, cupuled with the fact I had an accident a while back. I was asked by the Department of Motor Vehicles, to take a complete driving test. Questions. Eye exam, driving sk**ls. Past by the way.
But while I was in there waiting my turn, what I witnessed was to say the least shocking. Just after I arrived a young fellow…. Around 20.… presented himself to the information officer. After about a minuet or so, I heard words to the effect,( you bastards, your all full of s**t you SOBs).
He turned and stormed out of the building.

This got all of the folks attention. And in a short time things were back to normal.
( I emphasize the word normal ) Having to wait I believed for ½ hour, I started to notice
Some things. Most people were just waiting as I. And as I started to look around, what cot my eye more than anything was the young folks there. Most males were in huddies, and the girls were in clothes you would have believed, to have not seen a washing for about a month. Smelled that way as well. One of the young fellows almost lost his pants, so he pulled them all the way up to his lower hips. Several of the young girls were only warring socks, no shoes. And one young couple might as well had a bed with them, for they were kissing each other most of the time I was there.

I must have looked funny, for I know my mouth fell opened. When I realized it, I closed it with a snap, and I heard a chuckle.
I’m good on that, after all I am 80.
But I could not help to think, what the hell has happened to our youth. What were there parents doing when they were growing up.

For a long time believed that most parents wanted the very best for there children.
I don’t believe that is true any longer.

For what I have witnessed over the last decade or so tells me I am correct. And it is truly sad to see. For these young folks are doomed to fail there whole life. They will never know the freedom of independence.
They will never know the true beauty of the world they live on. And most will never know the love that god has for them.

All because there parents did not care enough for them, to teach them right from wrong. Dam it all to hell, some people are just rotten to the core.

So I came back to my home a little sad.
I will remember this day, for a long time.

I will also remember that but for the grace of God go I.

RETW
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You mention GOD in your post, but fail to mention it was our (and I include myself) generation who let politicians, anti-christian, and anti-American groups take GOD out of our schools. They also took the pledge of allegiance and everything else we hold dear. We are now allowing Hollywood and the music industry raise our greatest natural resource...Our children.. I pray that GOD will forgive us...
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Apr 2, 2015 05:31:53   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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By the actions of our government, it appears that they are working for Iran, and helping Iran destroy the US and Israel. It appears like it in the Nuclear agreement that they presented to Iran. US seem so desperate to get a deal that favors Iran. Nations involved have walked away from the dealing but US lingers, won't stop until the agreement is signed by Iran.

Another reason why US is helping Muslims is the fact that US won't stop ISIS called a JV Team, when in fact now a monster, raging all over the Middle East, k*****g millions of Christians, and first time in history our fellow Americans beheaded.
Another reason why US is helping Muslims was the release of the 5 Muslim leader terrorists bypassing Congress.

By what is happening in our country, it appears that US is favoring and protecting, or empowering the Muslim world.

That is because Muslim's Koran and Muhammad's order the Muslims to k**l by cutting heads off, and annihilate all unbelievers from the phase of the earth. Read Koran 47:4; 5:33; and 8:12 verses of the commands of Muhammad.

Our president said, Islam is a religion of peace!
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I don't think Obama is working FOR Iran, I believe he is working to force Israel to destroy Iran. Israel will then be blamed for starting WW3 causing other nations to rise up against Israel. Both nations will then be destroyed...
Barack Obama knows IRAN is committed to destroying Israel.. OBAMA is the one that keeps trying and initiating consecutive meetings to finalize a Nuclear deal..... Obama (a dev**edSunni Muslim) stated in his OWN book called "Audacity of Hope" that "If the political winds shift in a ugly direction, I will always stand with the Muslim people." -Barack Hussein Obama (Audacity of Hope). If Obama can start a war between Israel and Iran (Shiite Muslims), then Israel will be getting rid of Obama's enemies, as Obama is a Sunni, sworn enemies to Shiites. Sounds like a plan to me...

"I know not what weapons WW3 will be fought with, but WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones." -Albert Einstein .
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Mar 31, 2015 09:20:31   #
Jack2014 wrote:
As typical as the T&Peers are, they even screwed up referring to the letter 47' of them wrote to the Khomeini to aid and abet their negotiations with the US and 5 Allies.its called treason and Plutocratic bought and sold Repuglicanrs have done the Koch's bidding. Of course each probably got a big check from their MIC sponsors as well. The war mongers actually sent a letter to what they call our enemy. I wonder did Netan-yahoo sign it too? Did Bucheney's?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/09/tom-cotton-iran_n_6831328.html?ncid=newsltushpmg00000003

Cotton is a verifiable war monger

“Republicans are undermining our commander in chief while empowering the ayatollahs.”
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NOTE; By all means, give them them everything they want, and you'll be singing the Iranian National Anthem and praying to allah in no time.....
I cabbaged this from Wikipedia:


Following the fall of the pro-American Pahlavi dynasty in early 1979, Iranian protesters regularly shouted "Death to America" and "Death to the Shah" outside the U.S. embassy in Tehran, including the day the embassy was seized on November 4, 1979, which commenced the Iran hostage crisis.[7] Throughout the crisis, Iranians surrounding the embassy chanted "Death to America" and "Death to Carter."[8] When Iran released the remaining 52 American hostages on January 20, 1981, they were led through a gauntlet of students forming parallel lines that shouted "Death to America" as they boarded the airplane that would fly them out of Tehran.[9]

Throughout the existence of the Islamic Republic of Iran, the slogan has formed a pillar of its revolutionary values.[4] It is regularly chanted at Friday prayers and other public events, which is often accompanied by a burning of the f**g of the United States.[5] These events include the November 4 anniversary of the U.S. embassy seizure, which Iranian leaders declared in 1987 as a national holiday called "Death to America Day."[10] State-sponsored murals that feature the slogan "Death to America" are common in Iranian cities, particularly Tehran.[11]

On March 21, 2015, Iran's supreme leader Ali Khamenei backed and shouted the phrase 'Death to America' while addressing a public gathering in Iran.
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Mar 31, 2015 04:46:02   #
JMHO wrote:
Yep, you and eagleye13 will get along great...another conspiracy theorist that is about as warped as you. Yawn...ho hum...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Yep, that pretty much sums me up..Standing there proudly thumping my bible, not caring how I look or who sees me. Most of the 40 authors of the Bible were conspiracy theorists also, so that puts me in pretty good company. About one third of the Bible is prophecy--the future written in advance. About 750,000 words with 250,000 dev**ed to prophecy. Thank you for the compliment, but I'm not a prophet.
Oh, and I hope I get along great with all of you.. I may not agree with you, but, I will respect your opinion, just as I'm hoping to respect you.
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Mar 30, 2015 17:55:00   #
JMHO wrote:
Bulls**t! You conspiracy wackos have been saying this crap for over 6 years now, and it still hasn't happened. I've done plenty of studying, pal...and I'll bet far more than you. In fact I used to be on this same band wagon (some what) until doing a lot of research, then I wised up. So, I suggest you wise up.


Sorry???? I just joined OPP two weeks ago, and you joined May 2014 from a location in Outer Mongolia.. And you're calling me wacko and accusing me of saying this crap for over six years... Hmmmm ...Wow, when you fell off the band wagon you might have hit your head a little too hard. Do they have doctors in Outer Mongolia??? Either way, I wouldn't consider that "wising up"..
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Mar 30, 2015 09:05:35   #
They do not understand that the Constitution needs interpretation, and that this is why we have a Supreme Court. It is no use to discuss c*****e c****e and g****l w*****g with them because they think it is all a big h**x that people are making money off of.

I h**e to burst your bubble, buuuuttt.....
http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/04/report-epas-global-warming-agenda-will-cost-the-economy-2-23-trillion/
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Mar 29, 2015 14:17:27   #
bmac32 wrote:
I realize that but I go on a case by case. Many of those so-called personal emails were likely promises of donations from those whom she should not have taken money from and she knew it thus the private server. What really pisses me off is the LAME media will look the other way and do very thin reporting on this.


You're right, instead of going after Hillary, maybe we should go after the LAME MEDIA.
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Mar 29, 2015 14:15:38   #
3jack wrote:
If there were incriminating emails, who would she be sending them to? State Department employees on state department servers? Military leaders on military servers? or another person using a private account on a private server such as sending state department business emails to herself. Kind of hard to conspire with your self. If such is not the case then her state department business emails are archived some place on government servers. The committee has all of those emails and they have found nothing.
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Then why erase them if weren't incriminating? Who says the committee has ALL of those emails? Hillary??
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Mar 29, 2015 12:37:10   #
bmac32 wrote:
Chairman of the House Select Committee on B******i has received an answer from Clinton’s lawyers about turning over her server to an independent third party for review; it’s not worth it because everything on it was deleted. That’s including the backup systems connected to the server as well. In short, her legal team said that all work-related emails between 2009-2013 have been turned over and are in the State Department’s possession (via AP):

Hillary Rodham Clinton wiped her email server "clean," permanently deleting all emails from it, the Republican chairman of a House committee investigating the 2012 B******i attacks said Friday.

Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., said the former secretary of state has failed to produce a single new document in recent weeks and has refused to relinquish her server to a third party for an independent review, as Gowdy has requested.

Clinton's attorney, David Kendall, said Gowdy was looking in the wrong place.

In a six-page letter released late Friday, Kendall said Clinton had turned over to the State Department all work-related emails sent or received during her tenure as secretary of state from 2009 to 2013.

"The Department of State is therefore in possession of all Secretary Clinton's work-related emails from the (personal email) account," Kendall wrote.

Kendall also said it would be pointless for Clinton to turn over her server, even if legally authorized, since "no emails ... reside on the server or on any backup systems associated with the server."

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Kendall said in his letter that Clinton's personal attorneys reviewed every email sent and received from her private email address — 62,320 emails in total — and identified all work-related emails. Those totaled 30,490 emails or approximately 55,000 pages. The material was provided to the State Department on Dec. 5, 2014, and it is the agency's discretion to release those emails after a review.

The committee had subpoenaed Clinton’s emails relating to the B******i terrorist attack in 2012 on March 4, but Kendall noted that the 300 emails, which amounted to 900 pages, Clinton had turned over satisfied the order.

“Secretary Clinton failed to provide a single new document to the subpoena issued by the Committee and refused to provide her private server to the Inspector General for the State Department or any other independent arbiter for analysis,” he said his statement yesterday.

“We learned today, from her attorney, Secretary Clinton unilaterally decided to wipe her server clean and permanently delete all emails from her personal server. While it is not clear precisely when Secretary Clinton decided to permanently delete all emails from her server, it appears she made the decision after October 28, 2014, when the Department of State for the first time asked the Secretary to return her public record to the Department.”

Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD), the ranking member on the committee, said:

This confirms what we all knew—that Secretary Clinton already produced her official records to the State Department, that she did not keep her personal emails, and that the Select Committee has already obtained her emails relating to the attacks in B******i. It is time for the Committee to stop this political charade and instead make these documents public and schedule Secretary Clinton’s public testimony now.

So, while some are reporting the makings of a Clinton comeback are in the works, this fiasco has done damage to her numbers. Guy dissected the CBS News poll showing that two-thirds of the respondents felt it was inappropriate for the former Secretary of State to use a private email account to conduct official business, she scored low marks on honesty, and her favorables are under water by double-digits.

As RNC Chairman Reince Priebus aptly noted, “Even Nixon didn't destroy the tapes.”

Addendum: Theoretically, 90 percent of the emails Hillary turned over should've been preserved by the State Department since they were correspondences with its workers, but they were not. State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki said they started archiving emails for senior officials in February, which was before the story about Hillary's private email account and server broke. Also, the State Department IG confirmed that its workers aren't preserving government emails properly.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/03/28/the-clinton-comeback-begins--with-the-email-server-being-wiped-clean-n1977708?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad=
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Perhaps we could get copies of Hillary's emails from the KGB or Snowden.. I'm sure they kept their copies..
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