A mind is a terrible thing to waste Neal, so is a soul. You seem to have done both, great job pal!

You and Brain(sp?) have a most wonderful time together, chatting, digging around for t***sitional fossils and, if you feel real adventurous, maybe create synthetic v***ses in each other's basement?

You seem so sure you know what I read Neal and yet, all this time you have never shared with me your unbiased liberal boob sources. Is it because you are so full of it that your eyes are brown or, you are just trying to keep all the really great humor to yourself?

The only actual fool I see, are the two fools that say "...there is no God". Good luck with your eternity, I'm sure where you guys are headed, you'll have a wonderful library and, all the time you need in the universe to shake your fists at God.

Buh Buy now... and, may Darwin bless you too. Great news Neal, you'll probably get a chance to meet him and, discuss the origins of life directly with him.

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Well, if you can believe that Jesus went to India as a child and learned from Hindu Gurus, you can believe that.

I believe Ravi Shankar is best listened to when you are stoned out of your mind. Jesus studying under Hindu Gurus is too fat-fetched even with the benefit of a vivid imagination, a brick of hash and a very expensive hookah. Listen to this anyway, it will expand your mind a lot more than most posters on here do.

http://youtu.be/-f1DNyngKVY

The Best of the Sons of Men

Ancient scrolls reveal that Jesus spent seventeen years in India and Tibet

From age thirteen to age twenty-nine, he was both a student and teacher of Buddhist and Hindu holy men

The story of his journey from Jerusalem to Benares was recorded by Brahman historians

Today they still know him and love him as St. Issa. Their 'buddha'

Notovitch In 1894 Nicolas Notovitch published a book called The Unknown Life of Christ. He was a Russian doctor who journeyed extensively throughout Afghanistan, India, and Tibet.

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The phrases "lost years of Jesus" is usually encountered in esoteric (requiring secret or mysterious knowledge) literature (where it at times also refers to his possible post-crucifixion activities), but is not commonly used in scholarly literature since it is assumed that Jesus was probably working as a carpenter in Galilee from the age of twelve till thirty, so the years were not "lost years", and that he died in Calvary.

In the late medieval period, Arthurian legends appeared including stories that the young Jesus had been in Britain. In the 19th and 20th centuries theories began to emerge that between the ages of 12 and 30 Jesus had visited India, or had studied with the Essenes in the Judea desert. Modern mainstream Christian scholarship has generally rejected these theories and holds that nothing is known about this time period in the life of Jesus.

Many New Agers have claimed that Jesus went to India as a child to learn from Hindu gurus. He allegedly later went to Israel and performed miracles learned from these gurus, and taught doctrines He derived from them.

Such an idea is preposterous.

To begin with, Jesus' teaching about God was not pantheistic (“all is God”), as was that of the gurus of India.

Jesus never cited the Hindu Vedas but always the Jewish Old Testament which proclaimed the monotheistic God of Judaism (see Mark 12:29).

There is virtually NO evidence that Jesus studied in India.

Though the Gospels do not directly address Jesus' childhood, there are convincing indirect evidences that He remained in Palestine. Luke 2:52 summarizes Jesus' life from age 12: "And Jesus kept increasing in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man."

Jesus, of course, was both God and human. As God, He was omniscient (all-knowing) and all-wise; He could never “grow in wisdom” from the divine perspective. In His humanity, however, He probably gained wisdom as did other Jewish boys, by studying the Old Testament Scriptures (Psalm 1:2) and listening to the wisdom of the elders.

Jesus was known in His community as a carpenter (Mark 6:3) and a carpenter's son (Matthew 13:55). It was customary among the Jews for fathers to teach their sons a trade. Joseph would have taught Jesus the trade of carpentry as Jesus matured in the Palestine area. That carpentry played a role in His life is clear because some of His parables and teachings drew upon that experience. For example, He told of building a house on rock as opposed to sand (Matthew 7:24-27).

Luke 4:16 is a key text to refute the idea that Jesus went to India. At the beginning of His three-year ministry, Jesus "came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up; and as was His custom, He entered the synagogue on the Sabbath and stood up to read." Jesus was brought up in Nazareth, not India, and His custom was to visit the synagogue, not Hindu temples.

After Jesus finished reading on this occasion,“all were speaking well of Him, and wondering at the gracious words which were falling from His lips; and they were saying, ‘Is this not Joseph’s son?’” (Luke 4:22). Those in the synagogue recognized Jesus as a local resident.

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It is also noteworthy that Jesus read from the Old Testament Scriptures. The Old Testament, for which Jesus often displayed reverence (see Matthew 5:18), warns about staying away from false gods and religious systems (Exodus 20:2-3; 34:14; Deuteronomy 6:14; 13:10; 2 Kings 17:35)—this would include Hinduism . The Old Testament clearly distinguishes the creation from the Creator, unlike Eastern (Hindu) pantheism, and teaches the need for redemption, not enlightenment.

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I gave this reply on another OPP thread and it seems appropriate here:
We will NEVER come together because we - progressives and conservatives are on absolutely opposite ends of the pole, and have been ever since the Democrat Party was taken over by the C*******ts within this country. Once Joe McCarthy was forced to stop his "witchhunt" for c****es in the '50's, the c****es went into hiding, biding their time when it would be feasible to emerge as themselves once again. They carefully crafted their plan to take over America (my words, no one else's) "peacefully", and they KNEW it had to be clandestinely. They injected themselves into major areas where they could influence others to serve as their tools to influence other Americans into accepting oppressive legislation. Those fields they went into big time were: politics, unions, education, entertainment, and the media. Once that was done, they owned the conversation in America and all they had to do was operate clandestinely, pretending to be good Americans, all the while bending minds that COULD be bent into accepting unAmerican legislation and policies if a good reason could be planted behind the legislation.

Over the years they have become bolder and more open in their language and in their determination to rule all of us THEIR way. Their human tools didn't have to be c****es - they could use any American who was dumb enough to buy into the operation they didn't know was in fact a plot, or who was greedy enough to simply work for "rewards" in the form of "subsidizing", loans, freebies, etc.

The c*******ts have succeeded immensely because while they were are war with America, America didn't know it was at war and hence didn't do due diligence. C*******m isn't about "how to run a country", it is about "how to control every aspect of everyone's life." Once every citizen can be used as a tool without fighting back, the c*******ts are content. They are very close to attaining that goal. The only thing standing between their total control of us are a few people in various professions who speak up and say "Hell no, you aren't living my life for me!"

So.....why would ANY GOOD AMERICAN CHOOSE TO COMPROMISE WITH THE C*******TS JUST TO GIVE AWAY HIS LIFE TO THOSE WHO DON'T VALUE ANYONE'S LIFE? The answer is that NO GOOD AMERICAN would compromise to enable the o*******w of his nation by his lifelong enemy who is clandestinely living as an American.

When ANYONE mentions "compromise", be wary. Most of our freedoms have already been c*********d away by the c*******t tools within our government and those who support the loss of freedoms. ANYONE WHO FIGHTS TO ALTER OUR FREEDOMS WITHIN THE BILL OF RIGHTS SHOULD BE BRANDED "C*******T" because he, himself may not be a c*******t, his goal is at one with the C*******t Party.

I suppose in a way I agree. But, I can only do so if I look at homosexual behavior as a condition. Can one love an individual and not love their actions? I think that it is possible, but to what degree? Do you love the one who spits in your face as much as the one who shows love and respect for your laws and rules? Does God look favorably on one who molest a child, another man (I seem to remember a couple of cities that was destroyed due to this sort of behavior)? It then begs the question, is there degrees of love? One reserved for the obedient and one of complaisant tolerance that is only nanometers from condemnation.

I do understand your anger and pain. the reason that I decided to spend my life counseling young boys is because of my brother. He was regularly molested by a neighbor for a couple of years starting when he was ten. I was two years younger and unaware of this. He told our father who had high hopes for him being a star athlete and then suddenly rejected by brother. since I have a curved spine and one leg shorter than the other (special shoes are required to walk properly) my father had already told me that I was useless and he didn't care what happened to me. My brother left home right out of high school and disappeared somewhere. I also left the day I graduated and moved into a flop house (one room, bathroom down the hall, no kitchen just a toaster oven and crockpot)I worked days and when to college nights, and only came "home" for Christmas. On one such occasion I asked my father what had happened and he told me my brother had an "affair " with a man when he was eleven and was a q***r so he wasn't worth having around. I never talked to the bastard again but changed my major to help kids like my brother. at the same time I quit drinking and smoking pot and settled down and grew up. Then I met the woman I have been married to for 49 years and got my head on straight. I couldn't find my brother for years finally he called me, but wouldn't tell me where he was until he called because he was dying of rectal cancer We finally got together, he ended up in hospice and I found out how much his life had been ruined, probably more by our father than by the molester. He had been on and off drugs, drinking heavily, doing the "gay" bar scene ect. He died in my arms. So, yes I do understand. Over forty years my wife and I have worked with well over 100 kids, we refer to them as "our boys" and we have been counselors and substitute parents and now grandparents, working with a psychologist who is also a Christian and we do what we can.
I may have a book or two you would find useful, and I would be happy to give you. PM me if you would like them. and yes, predators recognize the vulnerable so kids tend to be victimized.repeatedly. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
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You have it dead on. I was molested for the first 10 years of my life by cousins mostly but others also. I don't know if most other little boys had the same life as me or if p*******es could somehow see I had been a victim before. I h**e f*ggots and everything about them. If I find one near my son, I will outright k**l him. I am otherwise a normal person who loves life, children, Momma, pets and trains. I don't h**e and it feels so foreign that I know it is a mental thing that is so deeply ingrained in me I doubt I can ever be "fixed". Homo-sexuality is a cancerous choice that just like cigarettes eats away at the host person and all those he/she comes in contact with. It is probably wrong, but if I could, I'd take a knife for men or a gun for both and cure them permanently. My life has been f***ed up for as long as my memory. It caused shyness and fear of other people and so many other problems in my life I know I will never fully be able to heal or forgive.

:thumbup: Any time that any one helps kids in God's name it is a good thing. Thank you so much for people like you and your wife who have worked to help children abused by p*******es and aggressive liberal democrats who are against b****s and children and hold hatred against God's children in general.Thank God the democrats did not k**l or murder these children with Obama's a******n mandate because of his hatred of the unborn and his murderous ways even after a child is alive and on the operation table. We know that Obama is a representative of satan and works hard to destroy this country and are very blessed to have those of you who stand up for God against the father of lies , the author of confusion who has come to steal k**l and destroy.