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Jul 21, 2020 16:05:37   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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LBJ was a scumbag T*****r RAT working for the New World order Deep State.


I'll go along with that!
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Jul 21, 2020 16:02:12   #
Geo wrote:
Abraham Lincoln Warned Us About Donald Trump

By Philip Gourevitch

March 15, 2016
Donald Trump personifies what Abraham Lincoln described as the mobocratic spirit. He fuels it and is fuelled by it...
Donald Trump personifies what Abraham Lincoln described as the “mobocratic spirit.” He fuels it and is fuelled by it, though it is by no means clear that he can control it.Photograph by John Sommers II / Getty
Watching the rise of Donald Trump brings to mind the story of Francis J. McIntosh’s demise.

McIntosh was a Mississippi River boatman who disembarked, one morning in the spring of 1836, at the port of St. Louis. He had a rendezvous planned with a chambermaid there, but he didn’t make it far before he got into a scuffle with a couple of constables, who had been in hot pursuit of another sailor, who was wanted for brawling. McIntosh was arrested for interfering with law enforcement, hauled before a justice of the peace, then marched off to jail. Along the way, he asked how long he’d be held there, and was told: at least five years. At that, McIntosh drew a knife, stabbed one policeman to death, badly wounded another, and bolted. Word spread, and a mob gathered. McIntosh was tracked down to an outhouse where he was hiding, and hustled back to jail.

Meanwhile, a much larger mob collected on the street, where, as Elijah P. Lovejoy, the editor of the St. Louis Observer, wrote a few days later, the body of the murdered policeman “lay weltering in his blood.” The mob soon moved on to storm the jail and tore McIntosh from his cell; it brought him to the edge of town, chained him to a tree, and built a fire at his feet. Until then, Lovejoy wrote, hardly a word had been spoken by the mob or McIntosh, but when the flames were lit he pleaded to be shot instead, then gave up and sang hymns as he was slowly roasted to death. His charred remains were then hung from a branch for all to see, and “a rabble of boys” who had taken in the whole spectacle took turns throwing stones at McIntosh’s head to see who could break it.

When a grand jury was convened to consider whether the members of the mob had committed any crimes, the presiding judge changed the subject and railed against McIntosh—a free mulatto—as proof of the perils of the anti-s***ery movement. The judge’s name was Luke Lawless, and he insinuated that McIntosh had acted as a sort of terrorist, under the influence of the newspaperman Lovejoy, who was a steadfast abolitionist. To Judge Lawless, “the free negro” was “the enemy,” and he made sure that nobody was charged for McIntosh’s lynching.

For most of Missouri’s press, that was as it should be. But to Lovejoy, it was as if the Constitution itself—and the order it was supposed to impose—had been torched along with McIntosh. Lovejoy had no problem calling the dead boatman a “blood-thirsty wretch” who deserved a death penalty in a court of law. The issue, in his view, was the broader slide into mob rule happening throughout America, and he wrote, “When the question lies between justice regularly administered or the wild vengeance of a mob then there is but one side on which the patriot and Christian can rally.” So Lovejoy mounted a campaign against “mobology,” and before long a mob ran him out of town. He then set up shop a little ways upriver, in Alton, Illinois, where he lasted about a year before a mob came to destroy his printing press, and he was shot dead trying to stop it.

McIntosh and Lovejoy live on in memory today chiefly because, a few months later, in a speech to the Young Men’s Lyceum of Springfield, Illinois, a twenty-eight-year-old lawyer named Abraham Lincoln invoked them as American martyrs. Hardly anyone in the country had heard of Lincoln before, but his speech at the Lyceum started to change that. His topic for the occasion, “The Perpetuation of Our Political Institutions,” could hardly have sounded less promising, but to Lincoln it raised a fundamental question: What was the greatest threat to the Republic?

He did not fear a foreign attack: “Shall we expect some t***satlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.”


No, Lincoln said, the only danger that America really needed to fear would come from within: “If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.”

Lincoln was not speaking hypothetically. He saw precisely such “ill-omen” in the growing disregard for the law in favor of lynch-mob vigilantism: “Accounts of outrages committed by mobs, form the every-day news of the times. They have pervaded the country, from New England to Louisiana; they are neither peculiar to the eternal snows of the former, nor the burning suns of the latter . . . neither are they confined to the s***e-holding, or the non-s***e-holding States.”

Lincoln said that he did not want to dwell on the horrors, but then he laid the horrors on pretty thick. For example, he said, in Mississippi, the mobs began by h*****g gamblers—even though gambling was allowed by law— then “negroes, suspected of conspiring to raise an i**********n,” then “white men, supposed to be leagued with the negroes,” and then random strangers visiting from other states, until “dead men were seen literally dangling from the boughs of trees upon every road side; and in numbers almost sufficient, to rival the native Spanish moss of the country, as a drapery of the forest.”

As for McIntosh, Lincoln said, his story was “perhaps the most highly tragic,” considering the speed at which he went from being “a freeman, attending to his own business, and at peace with the world,” to being lynched. Lincoln argued, as Lovejoy had, that the fact that McIntosh would surely have been sentenced to death anyway only made his lynching more offensive. To Lincoln, the offense was lawlessness, and he argued that both those who indulged in lawlessness and those who fell prey to it would eventually come to regard “Government as their deadliest bane . . . and pray for nothing so much as its total annihilation.” It was this feeling of “alienation” rather than “attachment” to public institutions that Lincoln feared most in the “mobocratic spirit.”

However far we may be today from the scenes of violence that Lincoln described, it’s easy to see the danger he was talking about gathering force across contemporary America. Donald Trump personifies the mobocratic spirit; he fuels it and is fuelled by it, though it is doubtful that he can control it. All the elements are there: the incessant, escalating lust for violence; the instinct for mobilizing a mob to take the law into its own hands; the claim that whole groups are the enemy; the belief that those who are not with the mob forfeit all protection from the mob and invite attack; the attribution of hostile conspiracies to peaceful independent actors; the contempt for evidence, as if accurate information and honest adjudication of competing claims were dirty tricks contrived to disadvantage the mob; the vilification of the press as hooligans who deserve to be beaten, if not k**led; an all-encompassing animosity toward the government and its institutions; in short, an ever-intensifying lawlessness.


This ugliness and violence and destructiveness is all that inflates Trump. His support reflects deep strains of preëxisting disenfranchisement, alienation, and division, but, although Trump gives echo to these passions and has an uncanny genius for harnessing them as his engine, he proposes no coherent remedy, only swagger: there will be blood. His success thus far reflects a world-upside-down sort of triumph, in which every word and deed that should destroy his candidacy only seem to fortify it. In this respect, Trump is the true representative of a party that has, for far too long, preferred to indulge all the dangers that Lincoln warned of and done nothing to protect itself, much less the nation, against them. That the Republicans were once the Party of Lincoln makes the danger that Trump’s party now constitutes not only alarming but tragic. And nobody foresaw the tragedy more clearly than Lincoln himself in his speech to the Lyceum, seventeen years before the Grand Old Party of the Republic was founded.

Haunted by the spectre of Francis McIntosh, Lincoln described the coming of a figure startlingly like Trump as all but inevitable: someone whose singular ambition and genius for power so “thirsts and burns for distinction” that he will pursue it at any cost. It would be foolish, he warned, not to expect such a person to arise. And when that happens, Lincoln said, there is only one solution: “it will require the people to be united with each other, attached to the government and laws, and generally intelligent, to successfully frustrate his designs.” Is that asking too much?
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It sure took you a long time to say that you have no idea what you are talking about.
When's the last time you heard of a baby getting k**led because of a Republican r**t? Or Republicans burning down businesses? Or beating old people in the streets, or COMMITTING MURDER? I can tell you when...NEVER!
Just change mobocratic to Democratic and you'll have it correct. All of the things you accuse Trump of were committed by Democrats right up to when LBJ decided to go after the black v**e for good.
Trump had accomplished more for b****s than the beloved black POTUS, or any other. Trump turned welfare recipients into productive citizens. Obama is known as the food stamp president.
You see, Lincoln was warning us against people like Obama who would seek to tear down America and divide her people. Lincoln would have loved Trump.
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Jul 21, 2020 15:41:18   #
Kevyn wrote:
ST. LOUIS — The St. Louis couple who became worldwide news after waving guns at protesters outside their Central West End home last month were charged Monday with gun crimes, despite pushback against the investigation from Jefferson City to Washington.
Mark and Patricia McCloskey each are facing a single felony count of unlawful use of a weapon — exhibiting. Charging documents say he pointed an AR-15 rifle at protesters and she wielded a semiautomatic handgun, placing those protesters in fear of injury.
Charging documents say investigators conducted "numerous" witness interviews and relied on video footage and McCloskeys' own statements about the June 28 incident.
In a statement, St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kimberly M. Gardner said, “It is illegal to wave weapons in a threatening manner at those participating in nonviolent protest, and while we are fortunate this situation did not escalate into deadly force, this type of conduct is unacceptable in St. Louis.
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Once the r****rs broke down their private metal gate, cursed them, and said they would k**l them, there was probable cause to fear for their lives and property. You nor that ditsy prosecutor can tell me there is such a statute already on the books for protesters that illegally break into private property, that the property owners cannot defend their property and themselves. It's called the Castle Doctrine.
Every man's home is his castle and he had a right given him from God to defend it. That's what inalienable means. Government cannot alienate that right from the people. GOA will probably defend them in court and it may and should go to the Supreme Court.
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Jul 19, 2020 20:53:55   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Yep I asked the same question but crickets.

Crickets happens often with newbies and then they just disappear


Oh well...I was just curious. I believe that there IS a difference in a democrat and a liberal, or maybe a better term, a progressive.
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Jul 19, 2020 15:42:24   #
[quote=Bonnie Jacobson]My name is Bonnie -- I live in Longview, Washington. I am retired, but I try to remain active and informed, at least on the Internet forums. I am not a conservative, and thus not a Republican. Sorry....

I am elderly, age 72, and college educated, with a graduate degree in Education from the University of Connecticut at Storrs, and I have a B.S. in Business - Human Resource Mgmt, and an A.A. in Public Relations Journalism from Austin Community College, in Austin, Texas, with academic honors.

I am also a parent, with grown daughters and a son. My son, Jeff, of whom I am very proud, is the owner of a business in San Diego, California, where he provides entertainment services to the city's Convention Entertainment industry (he and his crew set up political conventions, rock concerts, and other public entertainment venues in the Southern California entertainment & convention services industry).

My oldest daughter is married to an attorney who provides professional legal counseling in the Capitol in Washington, D.C. My youngest daughter is a wife and mother, and is also self-employed (part-time) in Reno, Nevada.

I write for the Medium Forums and have opinions about everything (like most old folks you know). I haven't published a book yet, but my family and friends keep insisting that I should.[/quote



Hi, Bonnie,
Welcome to OPP. While we may be on opposite sides of the issues, when I debate I try to do it with facts and/or logic, not personal attacks.
I have a question though...are you a Democrat or a l*****t? You see, I believe that there are still a few Democrats out there, but they are drowned out by the liberals. Now, even the libs are being replaced by the socialists and the B*M Marxists.
Anyway, welcome!
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Jul 11, 2020 13:17:44   #
the J man wrote:
Trump would have the most gold, he is the biggest liar of all time. Even his niece says he is pathological liar, he has no remorse like a normal human being. He only cares about what is in it for him, he is the definition of a cold hearted prick.


His niece is in a dispute over inheritance that she didn't get. Duh! She just don't like him.
I'm glad he's in it for himself because somehow, that spilled over to millions getting jobs that had none before. With out even a thought from him, black, Asian, Hispanic, and women had less unemployment than at any time in America's history. By helping himself, the economy tagged along at an unprecedented rate. He only helped himself but that somehow turned into better trade deals with pretty much every country we do business with.

WOW! Just imagine what he could do if he were for us!
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Jul 9, 2020 16:16:29   #
promilitary wrote:
Okay, Friend, have a great weekend.


You as well.
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Jul 9, 2020 01:00:44   #
Tiptop789 wrote:
I wonder why? I'll tell you since you asked. It's because he's a c***t, a liar, and a bully. He's a philanderer that loves to give it out, but cries like a baby when anyone strikes back. Do a little research on Donny & report back. Btw, don't use fox news as your source. Most from the tri-State area can't stand his axx. Of course those that are w***e s*********ts from that area just love him. I'm not implying you are one so don't get yourself in a dander. F**e news, trump will feed you f**e news of you let him. I should mention rust Medicare came snot because of a Democrat, President Johnson. I believed from your neck of the woods.
I wonder why? I'll tell you since you asked. It's ... (show quote)


If Trump is all the things you say he is, then why can't CNN, MSNBC, and the rest tell the t***h on him.
Better yet, If Trump's a liar and MSM are liars, then who can be trusted? Logically, it's Trump. There's only one of him while there are many MSM anchors and reporters that are spreading lies about him.I would trust 1 liar over hundreds of liars any time.
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Jul 8, 2020 21:21:43   #
maximus wrote:
pro-military, it's been a long day. Just consider that I made a mistake and this reply is meant for lefties, not you.

Did I say simple minded? No, I didn't.
Let me say this another way, I'm tired of looking up facts only to have 'some' on OPP ridicule me because they don't fit their CNN or MSNBC lies. In the first 20 months of Trump's term, CNN put out 19 false stories, one causing a 300% drop in the stock market in one morning. Now, that's a fact. Anyone who wants t***h can look it up just as I did, as I have at least 15 times. Add to that, Google is still posting these sources, but they are many pages down from where I found them just a few months ago.
I'm tired, not lazy, OR simple minded. Didn't say that anybody here was either. If I wasn't plain, I meant that after long hours of fact searching, I usually get the source made fun of, the material rebuked, or silence. Some don't even read what I post, cause they don't like it.
I like your screen name though, especially in these trying times.
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Sorry...300 points not percent
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Jul 8, 2020 21:16:29   #
Big Dolly wrote:
I guess that's the advantage of being an Independent. The main problem that I have with Republicans is they always cut taxes by slashing programs for the little people such as Social Security and MediCare, and they never think about how cutting these programs affect those who work for them or on account of them. Both my ex-husband and I lost our jobs on account of Reaganomics. Cutting spending doesn't reduce government interference, it just throws millions of people out of work. For example, my ex was a janitor working in a nursing home, but when spending was cut on healthcare, that nursing home had to cut back on it's staff, which is why my ex got laid off. Job outsourcing began during the Reagan Administration and as a result, I was among countless thousands of electronic assemblers who lost their jobs. Over the years, more and more people have lost just about every kind of manufacturing job that you can think of, causing even more millions of people ending up on welfare, then we get b***hed at and called lazy bums, but manufacturing was all the work we'd ever known nor did we have the time or financial resources to reeducate ourselves for other types of occupations, so what were we supposed to do, flip hamburgers for part-time, minimum waged jobs? I'd like to see Republican politicians try to live like that, I'd like to see their precious Donald Trump live like that! For nearly 40 years now, America has been bleeding out jobs, mostly to China. No jobs means no income tax and that's why those who are still working have to take up the slack in the form of higher taxes. Flipping DUH!!!
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Big Dolly,
Trump put more people to work than any other president, more b****s, Hispanics, Asians, and women got jobs than at any time in history...jobs that Obama said would not come back without a magic wand.

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I'd like to see Republican politicians try to live like that, I'd like to see their precious Donald Trump live like that!

Do you think that Nancy Pelosi could live without her $24,000 side by side freezers filled with $12 per pint ice cream? I don't. She was at home while she was showing off her junk, right in the middle of the first big hit of the v***s, while Trump never left the White House until that weekend when things had taken a down turn and he went to play golf. I'll bet you haven't even heard that Obama took a government provided Limo with a chauffeur for an hour + drive to a golf course on a beach somewhere and played golf while everybody else was forced to stay at home.
Democrats raised cain when Trump cut food stamps out for some, claiming that people would starve to death, that Trump was a murderer. What he REALLY did was to cut out food stamps for single men and women who had NO children and NO jobs. Do you want to feed a 25 year old man who won't work? If you say you do, I'll be amazed because I don't.
I don't mind a bit helping with anything a family needs to get by when they need it, but I am opposed to keeping somebody up who won't get a job and work. I AM taking into consideration that there are small rural towns where jobs are few and already taken.
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Jul 8, 2020 15:53:49   #
promilitary wrote:
Asking for facts and sources is not simple minded......not being able to provide
facts and sources IS simple minded and lazy.


pro-military, it's been a long day. Just consider that I made a mistake and this reply is meant for lefties, not you.

Did I say simple minded? No, I didn't.
Let me say this another way, I'm tired of looking up facts only to have 'some' on OPP ridicule me because they don't fit their CNN or MSNBC lies. In the first 20 months of Trump's term, CNN put out 19 false stories, one causing a 300% drop in the stock market in one morning. Now, that's a fact. Anyone who wants t***h can look it up just as I did, as I have at least 15 times. Add to that, Google is still posting these sources, but they are many pages down from where I found them just a few months ago.
I'm tired, not lazy, OR simple minded. Didn't say that anybody here was either. If I wasn't plain, I meant that after long hours of fact searching, I usually get the source made fun of, the material rebuked, or silence. Some don't even read what I post, cause they don't like it.
I like your screen name though, especially in these trying times.
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Jul 7, 2020 22:02:39   #
Simple Sam wrote:
I read that something like 9 children were murdered over the weekend. So very sad!


Yes, but Black l***s m****r............that is..................when a cop does it no matter the reason, good or bad,but all the other k*****gs are fine. A lady on Quora said so! She said the biggest difference in the cop k*****gs and the CHOP k*****gs was that the cops weren't doing it in CHOP.
So I said, Are you saying that as long as it's not a cop that it's OK?
She sent me a long answer and said her son grew up with a fine black boy and all was good until he got to be 20. All of a sudden, he was innocently suspected of leaving a drug house, and he innocently ran from the cops on a small motorcycle at speeds up to 90 MPH, where he crashed and burned...k**led. She then said she cried every time she thought about it that she h**ed that he 'HAD' to run. Well, he didn't have to run. I've never been suspected of coming from a drug house cause I don't do illegal drugs. I've never run from the police cause I wasn't guilty of anything. If you ask me, this lady's young black man k**led himself. This twisted view of people is what's wrong with this country. People are celebrating criminals and condemning cops. I call it Bizaromerica.
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Jul 7, 2020 21:45:16   #
factnotfiction wrote:
The usual trumpcons are always either whining and crying or name calling because they simply cannot stand to read the trump about the soon to be one term president.

This is what they attempt to do with every simple minded post they make


I have posted facts to you people many times only to be told to stop watching Fox, which i haven't in about 3 years. I'm done with facts that take up all my time and the OPP lefties wouldn't believe them if they were written in a stone 10' by 10' by 10'sitting in their living room.
You people are believing your own f**e news that Trump is hurting or that Republicans won't v**e for him. Would one of those happen to be Mitt Romney? Why! Yes it would! I wonder how a few neverTrumpers compare to 370,00 walk away Democrats?
Oh well...ya'll keep thinking positive, I'm sure it will work to overcome reality.
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Jul 7, 2020 04:46:28   #
nancibaren wrote:
Read this and you will have a better view of the stupidity of the whole blasted series of events ...

· School teachers are the number one occupation of the A****a terrorist organization, according to the FBI.
· It took Nancy Pelosi 34 years to get offended by those Confederate statues.
· 50 years of Affirmative Action is finally paying big dividends for America, huh?
· The c*******ts living within the CHAZ “country” of Seattle have run out of food and supplies and are now begging for help. Welcome to actual c*******m, morons!
· Maybe it’s the people, not the cops, that need better training.
· Liberals are attacking conservatives and pushing for a civil war. If Liberals wanted peace, there would be peace. If the Conservatives wanted war, there wouldn’t be any Liberals.
· Should the Pyramids be torn down since they were built by s***es?
· Robbery in progress. Better go online and see how civilians think we should handle it.
· I haven’t seen a single welfare office set on fire anywhere.
· Our country will become a better place when everyone realizes there are only two kinds of people in it…. Good people and bad people. Ethnicity doesn’t matter.
· B*M. = Burn.. L**t. Murder.
· While we are getting rid of stuff, let’s get rid of rap music that promotes violence and h**e.
· Are we the only country dumb enough to start another civil war, because we are offended by the first one?
· In 1933, Hitler appointed Hermann Goring Minister of the Interior. His first orders were to defund and eliminate police departments so that they would not interfere with his Brown Shirts whose mission it was to r**t, burn, beat up, and k**l citizens in an effort to sway the e******ns.
· Are you being treated poorly by the police? Well, have you tried not breaking the law to see if that helps?
· Does anyone see the irony in the fact that the Floyd funeral spectacle had a police escort?
· Minneapolis has a democrat police chief, a democrat mayor, and a democrat governor; yet the republicans and Trump are at fault.
· Strange how you can watch a televised funeral with hundreds in attendance, after being told you can’t go to your own family’s funerals or your own family’s kids’ graduations. Think maybe you are being played?
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I read a science fiction book once that fits pretty well. In it was a world where good was bad and bad was good. Sounds just like today in the USA, doesn't it?
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Jul 7, 2020 03:40:29   #
Big Dolly wrote:
I'm Big Dolly and I'm an Independent because I've learned hard, bitter lessons by v****g for parties rather than people. The first President who I v**ed for was Richard Nixon, a Republican. I suppose I v**ed for him because my mom's a Republican, but we all know how that turned out, don't we? So the conclusion that I came to was that Republicans aren't all that they're cracked up to be, then I began v****g Democrat instead, until that fiasco with Bill Clinton's sex scandals. I remember an acquaintance of mine complaining that her President was getting picked on, but I retorted, "Well, he's NOT my President! I v**ed him into office to do his job, not waste my hard-earned tax dollars by chasing after skirts! Once he's out of office, he can do that on his own time and his own dime!", so I began v****g for other parties, such as the Green Party, but since only a tiny fraction of v**ers did the same thing, a Democrat or Republican ended up in office, anyway. Over the years, I've come to realize that no two candidates within each party think exactly alike. Some Democrats think more like Republicans and vice versa. I decided that the best way to handle v****g would be to study each candidate's profile along with his/her public service experience and take it from there. Now, bear in mind that these are simply my own opinions based upon first-hand experiences and eyewitness accounts. I'm not going to try to convince anyone about who to v**e for because it's not my place to do so. As for disagreeing, that's okay, too, but I'd appreciate it if you keep it civil. If anyone starts in with calling me names, telling me that I'm stupid, etc., I will refuse to respond. You want to tear each other apart? Fine, but kindly do it on your own topics, not mine. I want good, intelligent conversation, not another online insane asylum.
Before I get started, I'd better give everyone a heads up about something: I don't have access to a computer. All I have is an obsolete Android from the California Lifeline program. Half the time I can't click onto links (is that what they're called?) and I probably won't be able to include any in my own posts, either, nor am I about to waste what precious few gigabytes I have by trying. Although I get free unlimited calls and texting, I only get three gigabytes of data each month and I have to reserve as much of it as possible for online shopping, etc. I can buy an additional five gigabytes, but that costs $30.00 and I'm on Social Security! Of course, watching videos or including them in my own posts are totally out of the question because doing both will burn up gigabytes, too. In terms of backing up my statements, the best that I can do is to google information about certain topics and include those in my posts, instead. At most, I only use a few megabytes with this method. On the brighter side, a new business called The Odd Cookie Bakery opened up right around the corner from where I live. It's called The Odd Cookie Bakery because it has a bar inside as well as fresh-baked cookies along with other kinds of food. It also has free WiFi during business hours and I can enjoy a nice, crisp Caesar salad while I'm online. Well, if you'll excuse me, I've got some researching to do.
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Big Dolly, I agree with you up to a point. The Democrats have their policies that they just HAVE to have if they're going to be a Democrat, and the Republcans do the same thing. To me, wh**ever the Republicans are for, the Dems are against, and wh**ever the Dems are for, the Reps are against. That may sound kinda funny, but it isn't when you know who's supporting what.
I don't know any Republican that supports a******n, open borders, putting i*****l a***ns on Medicare, letting i******s become citizens in the face of those who have waited for years, in some cases, and paid many thousands of dollars to be a citizen, of rewriting our history, ( that's a new one but the Dems are all for it), high taxes, and the list goes on.
The reason we have two parties is so that a person can v**e for who THEY choose. You can v**e either way and I won't get mad or call you names or any of that. In fact, you sound like the kind of person that we don't have enough of on OPP. I only associate myself with Republicans because they are against the programs and policies I listed above. Have a good one.
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