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Dec 6, 2013 17:40:11   #
Navysnipe wrote:
Wasn't Mandela a c*******t?


A picture is worth a thousand words:


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Dec 6, 2013 17:31:22   #
silvereagle wrote:
The American people burned up the white house phones telling them NOT to pass olbangercare.Guess what they did it anyway.Now we are fubared.


The reason it passed is because of the majority of the Senate were Democrats. Need to v**e them out, replace them with Conservatives that do listen to American Citizens.
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Dec 6, 2013 17:28:28   #
lpnmajor wrote:
It's time to stop apologizing to the b****s, Indians, Japanese and Germans and anyone else. We have acknowledged our mistakes as a Nation so it's time to move on. No one should get a pass because of their ethnicity. The law is the law, for everyone.


Jewish people do not ask for an apology, nor do they live on handouts from the government, and each time there is an attack there is no running to the media to report it. As a fact, rarely is the police called. It is kept internal, photos of the attackers is given to each Jewish family who avoid contact with the criminals. If one of the families fall on hard times, the colony pitches in with food and necessities until that person or family are back on their feet. As for apology, none is ever expected, but when it comes it is appreciated and that person becomes a friend. We do not ask for anyone to come to help, but when it does come then our hearts open and that person gets a special place in our minds and good will.
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Dec 6, 2013 17:12:48   #
OldSchool wrote:
Of course Obungler doesn't give a rat's ass.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/12/05/young-ballerinas-kicked-out-theater-for-msnbc-obama-interview/


I have gone through all the reports regarding this issue. This is what I learned.
1. The dance company had rented the space last January.
2. All the children are white..... video at the bottom of this article http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2013/12/05/obama-american-university-ballet-company/3877009/
3, Obama insisted the interview be in front of college students http://lonelyconservative.com/2013/12/childrens-nutc*****r-rehearsals-scrapped-to-accommodate-tinglesobama-interview/
4. The university, although stating they will compensate, did not offer an apology

Some will say, so what kids get over things easy and no harm was done. To those people I say, you have never rehearsed for a play or been a dancer. To cram two days of work into the same day as the performance is not easy and can do physical harm. The children (not all ages was given, but the "Mouse" is only 7) will be tired! When you are tired, you make mistakes, mistakes in dance can result in broken ankles, legs, striated muscle tissue, dehydration. Then people will say, well an interview with the president does not happen all the time. Again, you do not watch TV; he is always in campaign mode and not a day passes without seeing him making a speech--little wonder that the congress complain that he does not meet with them. An alternative site could have been arranged, why did it have to be in front of college students....oh ya, Obamacare is failing because college age kids are not participating as required. So, next you will complain that I made an issue of the dance company being white children. Think about this, would he have bumped a black dance company? And really, I am not the only one who thinks that he is NOT impartial. But, that is for another time.
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Dec 6, 2013 16:32:02   #
larry wrote:
Ok, we can't ship them out all at once, but we can start, even if it is one at a time. Tell them to do it the right way, or stay home.


Totally agree! Prevent them from reentering at the border, deport each that is caught, stop the free stuff to include education, food, housing.....make them want to leave. Bury them when they die. It would take 20 years, but at the end we would have documented aliens and those that are undocumented would not be on welfare, unemployment, and they would be well behaved for fear of getting caught. So, street violence, mules carrying drugs..... would decline.
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Dec 6, 2013 12:26:35   #
lpnmajor wrote:
How can they v**e, I wonder, if they are illegal? When some States enacted tougher v****g registration laws, people screamed "unfair". Unfair to whom?


How can they v**e. Seems to be an easy question and one that was raised in 2008 and again in 2012. Many states only ask the question of citizenship. Others ask for a utility bill to verify their address. No state has been allowed by Liberals to put checks in place to make sure that only US citizens are registered. Why, it is because most of the Latino population v**e Democratic. And when I say most, it is close to 94 percent that claim to be Democrats. In 2008 a request was made to the Justice Department to examine v***r f***d. The request was denied. Obama actually encouraged them to v**e, he targeted areas that he knew were hot spots of i******s and actually told them, and I am paraphrasing, that those who did not v**e were v****g for their enemies, the ones who want to deport them. So, they have the backing of the Justice Department, states find their hands bound by Obama and his staff, and the bleeding hearts take to the street to support i******s as though they have a right to break the laws.

http://www.aim.org/guest-column/v**er-fraud-illegal-alien-v**ers-ignored-by-justice-department/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/howard-foster/democrats-benefit-from-illegal-immigrants-v****g_b_1418523.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/24/us/immigrant-population-shows-signs-of-growth-estimates-show.html?_r=0
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Dec 6, 2013 11:51:01   #
OldSchool wrote:
Crown Heights’ new councilwoman and her interesting views on black violence against Jews.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/colin-flaherty/the-new-face-of-r****m/


Thank you for the post. It is sad, but this activity has been going on as long as I can remember. It has been suggested that I can blend in, that black people are the one's that have been so abused. It has been suggested that I should hide my faith and ethnic background in order to avoid violence at the hands of black youths. Even on this forum! And no one cares! They just say, oh what a shame and then make comments of how b****s have family issues, or they came from s***es. No one stands up; why, well if they did then they too would be targeted. I guess it is the same today as it was 60 years ago or 2000.... it will not change; they h**e the Jews in their neighborhoods because of family values (well that is one reason the article brought up). Perhaps they could learn something from their neighbors instead of being afraid.

The face of r****m, well that face can be any color, any age, and come from all classes.
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Dec 6, 2013 10:12:54   #
onegooddance wrote:
Ginnyt and Slatten49
Thank ypu both form your help
and they say Americans aren't helpful


You are most welcome. Glad I could help.
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Dec 6, 2013 10:10:11   #
silvereagle wrote:
There is nothing that we the American people can or will do about this.Its too late


Oh yes there is, get out an v**e so the law can be repealed. Stop with the defeatist attitude, all laws can be repealed...remember probations?? repealed because the law was harmful and not what the masses wanted.
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Dec 6, 2013 10:06:16   #
slatten49 wrote:
I might add, this has been one interesting thread, for me, at least. The posts of individuals, and the exchanges between them, have been illuminating, for me, in that I am always enthralled with the knowledge of others on subjects I am somewhat lacking in that knowledge.

Although all are to commended, I find your posts, Ve'hoe,
extemely interesting. Your background is so diverse, and you are so forthright in speaking openly about everything, I am fascinated, often, by your input/insight.

I am concerned, however, about those militant girl scouts! :lol:
I might add, this has been one interesting thread,... (show quote)


I agree, with your assessment of VeHoe, and so enjoyed the off the subject chat. I am sure that many did not appreciate me taking so much space to explore tribal thinking, but the diversion was so rewarding.

It was refreshing and I learned from VeHoe. I admire his ability to bridge issues and still remain clear on his point. All without anger!
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Dec 6, 2013 09:54:07   #
DennisDee wrote:
Actually Obama has not deported more. This is another false left wing talking point. In 5 years Obama has deported about 1.4 million. Bush deported 2 million over 8 years. Obama is on pace to pass Bush but he has not yet. Deporting every single one is no more needed than the IRS auditing every person. You just need to make some examples of some. Start imprisoning a small percent as examples. Many will just leave voluntarily.


Excellent point! :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Dec 6, 2013 09:53:08   #
catpaw wrote:
So, if a young veteran in uniform returned from Afghanistan and learned that his mom and dad were being deported for being illegal residents, what would you tell him? That his parents are criminals?


What would I tell that veteran, I would not need to tell them anything other than to thank them for their service. The veteran went into the service, all services require a high school diploma and during that education had to take civics, American History along with other courses to graduate. That veteran is well aware that their "Mom" is not in the country legally and it is only a matter of time when all criminals are caught. Therefore, your argument is a mute point.

Laws are not written for the protection or prosecution of a single person but for the masses. Now if you had read, and the more you talk the more I think you do not read any posts and research the comments, you will see that most of the problem with i******s can be taken care of by attrition. Try thinking with your head and not your now anemic heart (anima sets in when you loose too much blood). Read the solution of depletion by attrition I outlined for you. You may not like it, but the solution is there and does not require a mass export of the criminals you are defending.
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Dec 6, 2013 02:02:16   #
catpaw wrote:
If you have taken time to read up on American history then you would know that the same rhetoric was applied to Quakers, American Indians, Chinese, Irish, freed s***es, East Europeans--particularly Jews, and now Hispanics.
Yes I guess we could mobilize the military to round up a particular ethnicity. We did that to confine Indians. And again to confine evil Japanese. The n**is did that to confine Jews and other minorities. That worked out o.k. We even sent b****s back to Africa. They founded the country of Liberia.
If it weren't for that pesky Constitution getting in the way, you guys could really clean up the country for real Americans.
If you have taken time to read up on American hist... (show quote)


ILEGAL AILENS ARE NOT COVERED UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. Read it, try to understand it. I explained this on another thread. Now here you are again, with the same old tired comments.
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Dec 6, 2013 02:00:07   #
larry wrote:
Do you think it would be possible to round them all up and send them to the nearest Embassy and charge them for getting them out or they go to jail. What is wrong with that? Of course if they do not have an Embassy in the US, we could ship them to the Capital of the country they came from, and present that country with a bill for the trouble.

We could use the National guard for this since these people are really invaders. I don't like to see people in desperate straits and don't blame them for trying to escape bad conditions, but there is a right way to come to this country. They must use the right way.
Do you think it would be possible to round them al... (show quote)


It would not be possible as you and some other people suggest, to deport 11 million people at once. It is not logistically feasible because they are not a static group. However, they do drive, rent houses/apartments, apply for assistance. Make documentation a requirement for these activities. If we enforced our current laws and then made it impossible for other i******s to enter our country, it would be easy to hold the number at current population. And with time, reduce the number. How, well as stated they are not static, they go back to their country to visit relatives; stop them when they attempt to reenter the US. They also die; either through happenstance or natural deaths, provide them a funeral and while at the funeral check the group for i******s. This in itself sounds cold, but it would make i******s uncomfortable and persuade them to return back to their own country.

So, bottom line. 1. Enforce the laws, and arm our boarder patrol with instructions to shoot if swamped or when someone will not turn around and return back across the border. 2. Make i******s uncomfortable. Not by harassment, but by requiring proper documentation for getting driver's licenses, apply for grants, and so on. 3. Give them reason to want to leave. If they can not get free food, housing, education, utilities...... then why would they want to stay in the US? 4. If an illegal is stopped for traffic, check for ID. No ID, then arrest. No proof that they are US citizen, deport. Same with police calls to homes for domestic issues. Check, arrest, deport.

Sure, some will be missed because there are good forgeries of identifications; but the vast majority will be caught.
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Dec 6, 2013 01:42:09   #
catpaw wrote:
You stated that Obama intends to allow i*****l i*******ts into the country through apathy and inaction. The facts do not support that premise. You equated i*****l i*******ts as criminal elements and foreign enemies invading the country. The facts do not support that premise. You would use the Constitution to vindicate arresting a particular ethnicity and deporting them. The Bill of Rights and the 14th Amendment do not support that premise.
I hope I am repeating a school lesson, because the realities of the issue and the application of the Constitution is what should be taught. How are you going to react when a Hispanic is elected to the white house? Far fetched? There are viable candidates in both parties now who could qualify for the candidacy.
You stated that Obama intends to allow i*****l i**... (show quote)


You base your points on the 14th Amendment and I have already addressed that. I did not say that Obama is allowing i******s in through either apathy or inaction. He is deliberate in opening the boarders. People that break the law and enter into my country are criminals, deserving nether my respect or sympathy. They enter under the law, then I welcome them. There is a difference. I do not v**e because an individual has a color tone or a Hispanic name, I v**e for the person who has a proven record. How did they v**e on bills that are important to me. I v**e for a person that has the education, background, and ability to lead a nation and above all has integrity. Color is not an issue. A Hispanic, Japanize, Korean, Native American, Black, or any other color of the rainbow....what does it matter if they are qualified and can lead and be an inspiration? Perhaps it makes a difference to the Liberals, but not to me.
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