catpaw wrote:
The Obama Administration has strengthened the border with material, personnel, and logistics and deported more i******s than Clinton or Bush. Unlike his predecessors, the Justice Dept. under Obama has cracked down on businesses that hire i******s. A good number of Hispanics feel betrayed by Obama and assuming they will all happily v**e for him is jumping to a conclusion. (Of course, the GOP hasn't exactly endeared Hispanics, but that's a different topic.)
At the same time a practical assimilation of the i******s that have been here for years is being proposed. Rounding up 11 million residents--many with legal family members and children--and deporting them is not a practical solution, and probably an impossible one.
Despite the exaggerated and embelished stories that are repeated as fact, the bulk of i******s that come from south of the border are Mexican in a desperate situation. And they do have a measure of my sympathy. Were I in their place, I'd try to get to the US anyway I could. Telling them to get in line and wait their turn to immigrate is telling them they are unlikely to get in.
As the corporate and government corruption in Mexico gets worse, as the drug cartels dictate rule of law by gun barrel and murder, I expect the border unrest to get worse. More and more, those people trying to get into the US are increasingly not looking for a job, for them it is literally a matter of life and death.
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I delayed my response to you because I wanted to respond on a higher level than my immediate reaction to your comments. It is with that in mind that I wish to respond to your points as they appear in your response:
Your maintain: The Obama Administration has strengthened the border with material, personnel, and logistics and deported more i******s than Clinton or Bush. Unlike his predecessors, the Justice Dept. under Obama has cracked down on businesses that hire i******s. A good number of Hispanics feel betrayed by Obama and assuming they will all happily v**e for him is jumping to a conclusion. (Of course, the GOP hasn't exactly endeared Hispanics, but that's a different topic.) It is true that more border agents were hired under Obama. However, credit for initiating the hiring predates the current administration. Perhaps you should look at both Presidents Clinton and Bush, pay particular attention to details in the past budgets. Initial funding was proposed and passed during the Clinton administration and more funds were added during the Bush terms. Remember that Obama did not have a budget for almost 3 years of his first term, we operated under continuing resolutions. Wherein you are proud of the new provisions to crack down on companies that hire i******s, it is worthwhile to not that doing an audit is not as heavy handed as removing i******s, and is not a real deterrent for business not to hire under the table. The crackdown is a requirement to fill out a form. A real measure would be akin to Joe Arpaios Posse of Arizona. They actively go to business and ask the workers for proof of citizenship. This is what American needs to secure the boarders; active and concerned professionals that go into the field and round up i******s. I really do not care that the i******s are not in favor of either Obama or his opposition. They are not citizens, and therefore their opinion or v**e should not count.
Your next point; Despite the exaggerated and embelished stories that are repeated as fact, the bulk of i******s that come from south of the border are Mexican in a desperate situation. And they do have a measure of my sympathy. Were I in their place, I'd try to get to the US anyway I could. Telling them to get in line and wait their turn to immigrate is telling them they are unlikely to get in.
If you were an illegal, I would still hold the same opinion. That being your actions make you a criminal.
It would seem that you do not live near the border between the US and Mexico. Assuming this as true, allow me to provide you with some information: The media no longer reports on the violence along the Mexican border. Violence along the southern border has gotten so out of control that both Mexican and American journalists have stopped reporting it out of fear that drug cartels will retaliate against them and their families.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2013/03/mexican-u-s-media-too-scared-to-cover-border-crime/While the Obama administration insists the Mexican border is secure, a sophisticated airborne radar system created to track Islamic terrorists shows that less than half of the migrants and smugglers crossing into the United States get caught.
This alarming security gap obviously means that the southern border is far from secure, but rather porous and incredibly vulnerable. It also leaves Obamas Homeland Security Secretary, Janet Napolitano, with egg on her face. After all, the former Arizona governor has repeatedly toured the southern border region guaranteeing that it is as secure as it has ever been.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2013/04/military-radar-shows-mexican-border-is-not-secure/Among the crimes reported include murder, manslaughter, assault with deadly weapons, robbery with use of deadly force, rape, home invasions
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http://www.fairus.org/issue/examples-of-serious-crimes-of-illegal-aliens This link list by date and name of only a few cases.
Understanding that the i******s have issues, they are indeed their issues with their homelands. Instead of a mass invasion of the US, they could better their situations by taking control of their own country. If you look at Mexico, it has many advantages over the USA. For example, they have richer lands to grow crops, their growing season is longer, and they have oil deposits, minerals, as well as exportable products. It has all the potential of becoming much more than a country existing under control of drug cartels, socialist government, and military police. Running from your problems, and in their case running from their government, is not a solution but a cowards way out.
Another of your points: As the corporate and government corruption in Mexico gets worse, as the drug cartels dictate rule of law by gun barrel and murder, I expect the border unrest to get worse. More and more, those people trying to get into the US are increasingly not looking for a job, for them it is literally a matter of life and death. Perhaps you have a point, but consider this if our government become more corrupt than it is now, will anyone be better off? With the decline in American wealth, I suspect that those who are escaping their current homeland will diminish. What would they gain leaving a socialistic society to just enter into another socialist society with redistribution of wealth in the US?
One more thing that I feel compelled to introduce. You claim that more have been deported under Obama than under preceding presidents. Where are the numbers? According to law enforcement, there is no way to calculate how many enter. We can only count those that are caught. Many of these who are caught are repeaters. So, if the same individual is deported 30 times that will greatly affect the statistics. Under previous presidents, a person deported more than once was still counted as only one deportation. Under the current administration, who know how they generate their figures. The government refuses to provide their system of accountability.