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Jul 6, 2019 15:57:13   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Are you really oblivious to what you are saying here? What you are confessing to? What you are exposing about yourself?


Wow, your reading comprehension is severely lacking. Are you implying that avoiding the majority of spin and opinion in my news sources is a bad thing? I have to disagree, it is far better to get your news as spinfree and opinionless as possible and that allows you more freedom to make up your own mind as to what the facts mean for yourself.

Of course for someone like yourself, perhaps you have a point, someone like yourself can't be trusted to make up their own mind. If we trust them to do so, they end up like you, hopelessly misinformed and reliant upon the worst sources for their opinions.
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Jul 6, 2019 15:44:37   #
jeezmcrow wrote:
Conspiracy theories is a stupid title used to dis credit the logic behind it. Instead of debunking, you know providing proof that the theory is false, you belittle the human that believes it. We look for t***h you look for silence. Good thinking there buddy.


You obviously have a hard time understanding the words don't you, let me break it down for you. Conspiracy: An act performed by two or more persons/entities with an established goal, typically with negative connotations. Theory (pluralized as theories): Something that is thought to perhaps hold merit but as yet unproven. Conspiracy theory: something that is thought to have t***spired and involving two or more persons/entities that fails to have been proven to be fact thus far.

There, does that help you to understand yet? IF and when these delusional theories that all you Trumpsters make up/latch onto get proven to be facts, let me know and I will change my mind on their legitimacy, until then, don't bother trying to convince me of their legitimacy, you will NOT succeed.
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Jul 6, 2019 15:35:09   #
Rose42 wrote:
You need to think outside the box you've limited yourself to.


Ah, so you think I should delve into delusional fantasies then. Thank you but no thanks. Now IF on the other hand, any of these delusional fantasies that you Trumpsters make up/latch onto ever come to fruition (turn out to be true), let me know.
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Jul 6, 2019 15:28:24   #
Larai wrote:
Exactly, Hell Common_Sense has already called me a conspiracy theorist..doesn't even know me.. *Shrugs* what ever.. but yes.. mindless drones that don't know what to do w/out their queen.. otherwise known as Hillary Clinton.. lol.. I can already see them swirlling the bowl!..


When you promote conspiracy theory, then you ARE a conspiracy theorist, is that really that hard to understand? Even with your obvious lack of intellect, it isn't that hard of a concept to grasp, one that tells lies is a liar, one that tells the t***h is honest, one that promotes conspiracy theory is a conspiracy theorist, one that promotes the t***h is factual.

Do you not believe that these conspiracy theories you are promoting are truly conspiracy theories? If there were actual facts, then they wouldn't be called conspiracy theories they would just be called conspiracies without the qualifier of "theories" added to the end. Since Obama is NOT a Muslim, then the statement you made referring to him as a Muslim was in fact you promoting a conspiracy theory, the one claiming that he is a Muslim specifically.

If you need help sorting that logic, I recommend you printing a copy of this reply and head out and find someone smart enough to explain it to you on perhaps a first grade level as you seem quite intellectually disadvantaged.
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Jul 6, 2019 15:16:27   #
jeff smith wrote:
sorry . BUT you and all your dem. friends are the ones that believe ALL the LIES from your liberal democratic propaganda news machine . they LIED for over two years " there is evidence of collusion " . yet you still listen to them knowing that they have done nothing but lie to everyone . your education has done nothing for you . except to indoctrinate you into believing that the "progressives will lead every one to e******y , have equal justice for all and every one can be financially stable . WHAT A CROOK OF BULL DUNG . wake up some day . take off the blinders . you may see things as they really are .
sorry . BUT you and all your dem. friends are the ... (show quote)


Typical ignorant Trumpster, always spouting lies to defend their "messiah". Try doing some research before spouting such blatantly false propaganda? You DO know how to do research dont you? It requires removing your head from it's dark and smelly hole and seeing the world for what it truly is, not the alternate reality fed to you by Trump/Trump media arm.

I tell you what, I will give you a great place to start.

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

Those are just the false statements he has made, "Mostly True" (mostly but not fully true), "Mostly False" and "Pants on Fire" not included in that list so there are way more lies to be looked into but this is a good start. Do I expect you to believe their findings? Not at all, I expect you will accuse them of liberal bias. Follow their sources, find your own, do some investigative work to uncover the t***h. If you DO investigate those lies, I am sure you won't but... But if you actually do, I am sure you will discover what we already know, that nothing trump says (with very few possible exceptions) is true.

I'll help you out some, I will do a little research for you on the first lie in the list, "Trump’s claim Obama begged to meet with North Korea’s Kim Jong Un is unproven".

https://www.politifact.com/t***h-o-meter/statements/2019/jul/01/donald-trump/trump-wrong-obama-begged-meet-north-koreas-kim-jon/

Okay, Trump says Obama was begging for a meeting with Kim Jong Un. Let us look into that. You recall the controversy over Dennis Rodman right? Many were upset with his new found friendship with the dictator. Many called Rodman a t*****r even.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijsZnaNMP1E ("Flamboyant retired NBA star Dennis Rodman Sunday defended his trip to North Korea, saying leader Kim Jong-Un does not seek war but does want one thing -- a call from US President Barack Obama. Duration: 01:00" "ABC This Week" with George Stephanopoulos speaking on Kim Jong Un's desire to have Rodman ask Obama to call him)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1L2wUCpxR0

Is what Dennis Rodman saying about Kim Jong Un's wishes true? To figure this out, we have to determine a few facts first. Is there a logical reason Dennis would make that statement up? What would Rodman stand to gain by making such a statement up? I don't see a monetary gain for making such a statement, true or false. Attention maybe? while it is true that Rodman loves attention, he appears to prefer to get this attention by way of controversial acts or statements. Is such a statement as "Kim Jong Un wants to talk" all that controversial? For Rodman to make the statement, no, For Obama to make a statement about wanting to speak with Kim Jong Un, very much so as was evident by Republican reactions when Obama considered doing so.


Examples of Republican reactions to Obama considering trying to talk with Kim Jong Un:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMJakLzPags

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjI5GgfNl5Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KRkmF8Qh2o

Is there a downside to making up such a claim if it turns out to be false? For most persons, there is a downside to being caught in a lie, for Rodman... Not so much, he seems to enjoy controversy.


Did Kim Jong Un request a meeting with Obama? I think it is likely that he did especially when you consider that we have had heavy, crippling sanctions on No. Korea for decades that would only go away if we got something that we wanted. Did a meeting ever occur between Kim Jong Un and Obama? I don't recall a Republican lynch mob descending upon the white house during Obama's presidency, do you?


What does any of this matter if Trump never made the statement, "They couldn’t have meetings. Nobody was going to meet. President Obama wanted to meet, and Chairman Kim would not meet him. The Obama administration was begging for a meeting. They were begging for meetings constantly. And Chairman Kim would not meet with him."?

Quote:
PRESIDENT TRUMP: Thank you very much. I’m just going to make a very short statement because we’re going to the DMZ border, and I’ll be meeting with Chairman Kim. I look forward to it very much. I look forward to seeing him. We’ve developed a very good relationship. And we understand each other. I do believe he understands me, and I think I maybe understand him. And sometimes that can lead to very good things.

I want to start by just thanking President Moon and, very importantly, First Lady Moon, who’s a very special woman, a very special spirit. She loves your country very much, as does President Moon. And we had a great dinner last night, together, and spent a large part of the morning discussing lots of different things, including trade and military, frankly, and many other items.

But I thought I would just mention that when we came here, our great ambassador — we arrived last night — our great ambassador, who’s here someplace — Harry — was talking about the turmoil going on because of the level of — it was the vitriol. A level of vitriol that was happening between North and South. But it was North, to a large extent, where there was a lot of risk and a lot of threat, and a lot of bad things were happening. That was before I became President.

And as you know — and the media knows very well because they covered it, frankly, very well and very fairly — at the beginning, there was a lot of anger between myself and Kim Jong Un, who since — something happened. There was a point at which it happened, and all of a sudden, we get along.

And I figured that when I was in Japan, where they hosted a fantastic G20 — and I want to just thank Prime Minister Abe because he really — they did a fantastic job, and a lot of good things came out of that. A lot of good meetings with other countries, I can tell you, from the standpoint of the United States.

But we decided to come here a while ago, as part of going to the G20; I promised President Moon. And then, yesterday, I was just thinking, “Hey, I’m here. Let’s see whether or not we can say hello to Kim Jong Un.” And I put out the word, and he got back, and he wanted to do it from the beginning and so did I.

But there’s a lot of good feeling. You know, when sometimes the media will say, “Gee, what’s happened?” Well, they know what’s happened. What’s happened is there was nuclear testing, there was ballistic missile testing. They had hostages of ours, as you know. Very tough situation. And now we’re getting back our remains. We got back the hostages. There’s been no ballistic missile tests. And there’s been no nuclear tests.

And South Korea is a whole different place. And Japan. Prime Minister Abe was telling me Japan is a whole different place. They had missiles going over Japan on a very constant basis. You know that very well.

So I h**e to hear the media, you know, give false information to the public when they say, “Oh, what’s been done?” What’s been done? A lot has been done. And there’s also a good feeling. I can tell you, on behalf of President Moon, he feels much better about even Chairman Kim. I mean, he feels much better.

They couldn’t have meetings. Nobody was going to meet. President Obama wanted to meet, and Chairman Kim would not meet him. The Obama administration was begging for a meeting. They were begging for meetings constantly. And Chairman Kim would not meet with him.

And for some reason, we have a certain chemistry, or wh**ever. Now, let’s see what happens. We have a long way to go. But I’m in no rush. The sanctions are on and I’m in no rush. I’m in no rush with Iran. I’m never in a rush. If you’re in a rush, you get yourself in trouble.

So, I just want to say that we’re going to be heading out to the DMZ, and it’s something I planned long ago but had the idea yesterday to maybe say hello, just shake hands quickly and say hello because we haven’t seen each other since Vietnam. We had a great meeting in Vietnam. People don’t realize it. We had a — it’s all part of the whole negotiation. But we had actually a great meeting in Vietnam. We had a great meeting in Singapore. Everyone gave us praise for Singapore and not for Vietnam. I think, frankly, the meeting in Vietnam, in terms of a deal, was more important than Singapore.

So, I think what I’d like to do is we’ll take one or two questions, as I understand it. And then I’m going to head out to the DMZ and pay my respects to everybody, including some soldiers. We have some — we have tremendous military here in South Korea, and we’re going to see some of our great American soldiers. We’ll be talking to them. And I’ll be seeing Kim Jong Un.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: Thank you very much. I’m just g... (show quote)


Source: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-president-moon-republic-korea-joint-press-conference/


Did Trump make the statement? YES! Was the statement true? Doesn't seem so. Kim Jong Un WAS interested in having a talk with Obama, if Obama was "begging" for a meeting, it WOULD HAVE HAPPENED!

There, I did the one for you, you can check the rest for yourself and see what we have ALL KNOWN, that Trump is a liar.
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Jul 6, 2019 13:21:39   #
Larry the Legend wrote:
Oh, there will be indictments, hundreds if not thousands of them. This is a YUGE undertaking and it won't happen overnight. President Trump is building his case and it's going to be a doozy, especially after he's finished appointing an actual judiciary that will try these many, many cases.

And yes, his 'conspiracy theories' as you call them are factual, in fact, they're just the tip of the iceberg. Tht's just what we know about.


Perhaps, I doubt it will go anywhere but we shall see.

As for conspiracy theories, if they were factual, they wouldn't be called theories. You really should go out and seek actual true knowledge, educate yourself, perhaps then you will understand the difference between theory and fact.
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Jul 6, 2019 13:16:46   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Phuque the MSM, they are nothing but anti-American propaganda factories. President Trump is just the focal point of their hostility toward our constitutional republic and all Americans who embrace the principles of freedom and justice. The MSM spoon feeds you like a baby strapped in a high chair. Every talking point you've posted is right out of their playbook. The MSM has been spewing this bulls**t for decades and we have seen what has happened to the suckers who swallowed the bait. Disgraceful bunch of ignorant ingrates.
Phuque the MSM, they are nothing but anti-American... (show quote)


Spoon feeding" Perhaps the media I haven't bothered with is spoon feeding. I typically get the facts and make up my own mind, unlike Trumpsters who ARE spoon fed their opinions by every so called conservative media site with a very select few exceptions. Facts with little if any opinion included ISN'T spoon feeding, it is informing, that crap you rely on is nothing but spin and opinion so you have no room to talk about "spoon feeding".
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Jul 6, 2019 04:21:00   #
Larai wrote:
I have no issue with MY messiah!!. And NO body is Perfect.. Not one mother's son/daughter of us!!!.. I Love Trump Because He loves this country.. & He is lookin out for the American People!!.. What is it about him that YOU don't like that didn't come from the Lame Stream Media!! Do you even Have a thought of your own???? Hmmm interesting Anti-Trump fans are THE most violent in the History of our v****g process.. all y'all can do is whine!!.. want some cheese with that??? lol.. grow up.. the Right said Obama wasn't our president but we had WAY better reasons than YOU for not liking Trump.. Soooo . HE IS Your President.. Get the FK over yourself!..
I have no issue with MY messiah!!. And NO body is ... (show quote)


You and your blind hatred of t***h and facts. Just because your "messiah" and his propaganda machine claims "f**e news" on MSM, it doesn't make it true. I would ask you to point out where the MSM has put out actual f**e news against Trump but I know that you will point to the stories put out by ERWNJ websites that aren't to concerned about actual facts and make up their own facts to support their agenda and that you will flat refuse to acknowledge actual facts shown to you so that would be a waste of time. Enjoy your Koolade and quit crying about how mean the MSM are towards your "messiah", believe me, he has earned it.
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Jul 6, 2019 04:10:50   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Pipe dreams ain't gonna stop the train. The crimes committed are extensive and involve a lot of people, gonna take some time to get all the schmucks in a row, work out the legal flow chart you might say.

Just two months ago, in addition to the investigation now headed by US Attorney, John Durham, AG Barr opened a 2nd investigation into the intelligence and surveillance used during the Russia investigation that shadowed Donald Trump's presidency for nearly two years. Barr is working with CIA Director Gina Haspel, Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats and FBI Director Christopher Wray as part of the probe.
Pipe dreams ain't gonna stop the train. The crimes... (show quote)


Yes, AG Barr is doing everything Trump hoped he would, showing loyalty to Trump over country. Whether his investigations amount to anything, that has yet to be seen. Look at how many investigations there were during Obama's presidency and look at how they turned out.
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Jul 6, 2019 04:04:06   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
This identity politics is bulls**t, everyone who sees Trump as a train wreck is hostile to our nation and our constitution. A rose by any other name still bears thorns.


In your eyes, of course, in the eyes of those that love our country more than they love Trump, not so much.
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Jul 6, 2019 03:24:59   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
The House Intelligence Committee investigation came up with 8 criminal referrals, they are now in the hands of the Attorney General. 5 of these referrals specify crimes and names. The other 3 are global referrals dealing with FISA abuse, using unverified evidence to secure a FISA warrant, lying to the FISA court, manipulation of intelligence, mishandling of classified material, and illegal leaks of classified information to media and/or private individuals. (Does the name Daniel Richman ring a bell?) The global criminal referrals could involve a considerable number of people.
The House Intelligence Committee investigation cam... (show quote)


Boy will you be disappointed if nothing comes of it all.
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Jul 6, 2019 03:22:23   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Stop being a humorless asshole, man, no one is deifying president Trump, he's a human being like the rest of us. He makes mistakes, we make mistakes. Nobody is perfect. Even you. Good grief, you take yourself so damned seriously and go all hyperbolic with your bulls**t. Your liberal elastic is critically fatigued, you stretch it too far its gonna snap and knock your teeth down your throat.


Typical Trumpster, can never bother to get their facts straight. Not everyone that sees Trump for the train wreck that he is, is a liberal. Of course we can't expect you Trump supporters to understand this so... If it isn't black than it must be white, if it isn't white then it must be black, no other colors or shades for you people. I remember black and white T.V., it sucked, enjoy your primitive "reality T.V." with your favorite "reality T.V." star.
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Jul 6, 2019 03:09:43   #
Louie27 wrote:
Your last paragraph isn't quite factual. The Obama had more egregious acts against the opposite party that any other time in our history. But the evidence was keep hidden by the Obama administration to keep their party safe. It will probably be decades before the public will ever see the full extent of their corruption.


Okay, where are these indictments? How many convictions have there been? Your conspiracy theories aren't factual.
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Jul 6, 2019 03:07:24   #
jimpack123 wrote:
No the GOP are the r****t since Trump took over He has ruined the GOP and the diehard Trumpsters still love him lol


Facts have no effect on that one, you are wasting your time, just ignore that one, she isn't worth your time.
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Jul 6, 2019 03:02:29   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Funny thing about that. Trump's message to America was almost an hour long, 8000 to 10,000 words, and the only fking thing the media and the mental midgets they spoon feed could get out of it is a three word phrase with which to exaggerate all out of proportion and read all kinds of meaning into it that isn't even there.

I mean, the gaffe was so trivial it wasn't worth a second's replay. Talk about stupidity. You fools are as amusing as a passel of hogs rooting in cow s**t.


I wouldn't know, I didn't feel the need to subject myself to what I expected to be just another campaign rally. I was pleasantly surprised when I heard afterward that he resisted the urge to make it nothing more than another campaign rally.

As for what the media focussed on... You don't find it noteworthy or even news worthy that the man we entrusted, by we I mean you trump supporters, I never trusted him once I realized he was as stupid as he sounded on the campaign trail, is so stupid as to think there were airports BEFORE planes were ever invented even. Perhaps if he would pick up a book every once in a while, he wouldn't be so stupid and uninformed as he actually is. His stupidity makes us ALL look like morons to people around the world.
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