jeff smith wrote:
sorry . BUT you and all your dem. friends are the ones that believe ALL the LIES from your liberal democratic propaganda news machine . they LIED for over two years " there is evidence of collusion " . yet you still listen to them knowing that they have done nothing but lie to everyone . your education has done nothing for you . except to indoctrinate you into believing that the "progressives will lead every one to e******y , have equal justice for all and every one can be financially stable . WHAT A CROOK OF BULL DUNG . wake up some day . take off the blinders . you may see things as they really are .
sorry . BUT you and all your dem. friends are the ... (
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Typical ignorant Trumpster, always spouting lies to defend their "messiah". Try doing some research before spouting such blatantly false propaganda? You DO know how to do research dont you? It requires removing your head from it's dark and smelly hole and seeing the world for what it truly is, not the alternate reality fed to you by Trump/Trump media arm.
I tell you what, I will give you a great place to start.
https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/
Those are just the false statements he has made, "Mostly True" (mostly but not fully true), "Mostly False" and "Pants on Fire" not included in that list so there are way more lies to be looked into but this is a good start. Do I expect you to believe their findings? Not at all, I expect you will accuse them of liberal bias. Follow their sources, find your own, do some investigative work to uncover the t***h. If you DO investigate those lies, I am sure you won't but... But if you actually do, I am sure you will discover what we already know, that nothing trump says (with very few possible exceptions) is true.
I'll help you out some, I will do a little research for you on the first lie in the list, "Trump’s claim Obama begged to meet with North Korea’s Kim Jong Un is unproven".
https://www.politifact.com/t***h-o-meter/statements/2019/jul/01/donald-trump/trump-wrong-obama-begged-meet-north-koreas-kim-jon/
Okay, Trump says Obama was begging for a meeting with Kim Jong Un. Let us look into that. You recall the controversy over Dennis Rodman right? Many were upset with his new found friendship with the dictator. Many called Rodman a t*****r even.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijsZnaNMP1E ("Flamboyant retired NBA star Dennis Rodman Sunday defended his trip to North Korea, saying leader Kim Jong-Un does not seek war but does want one thing -- a call from US President Barack Obama. Duration: 01:00" "ABC This Week" with George Stephanopoulos speaking on Kim Jong Un's desire to have Rodman ask Obama to call him)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1L2wUCpxR0
Is what Dennis Rodman saying about Kim Jong Un's wishes true? To figure this out, we have to determine a few facts first. Is there a logical reason Dennis would make that statement up? What would Rodman stand to gain by making such a statement up? I don't see a monetary gain for making such a statement, true or false. Attention maybe? while it is true that Rodman loves attention, he appears to prefer to get this attention by way of controversial acts or statements. Is such a statement as "Kim Jong Un wants to talk" all that controversial? For Rodman to make the statement, no, For Obama to make a statement about wanting to speak with Kim Jong Un, very much so as was evident by Republican reactions when Obama considered doing so.
Examples of Republican reactions to Obama considering trying to talk with Kim Jong Un:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMJakLzPags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjI5GgfNl5Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KRkmF8Qh2o
Is there a downside to making up such a claim if it turns out to be false? For most persons, there is a downside to being caught in a lie, for Rodman... Not so much, he seems to enjoy controversy.
Did Kim Jong Un request a meeting with Obama? I think it is likely that he did especially when you consider that we have had heavy, crippling sanctions on No. Korea for decades that would only go away if we got something that we wanted. Did a meeting ever occur between Kim Jong Un and Obama? I don't recall a Republican lynch mob descending upon the white house during Obama's presidency, do you?
What does any of this matter if Trump never made the statement, "They couldn’t have meetings. Nobody was going to meet. President Obama wanted to meet, and Chairman Kim would not meet him. The Obama administration was begging for a meeting. They were begging for meetings constantly. And Chairman Kim would not meet with him."?
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PRESIDENT TRUMP: Thank you very much. I’m just going to make a very short statement because we’re going to the DMZ border, and I’ll be meeting with Chairman Kim. I look forward to it very much. I look forward to seeing him. We’ve developed a very good relationship. And we understand each other. I do believe he understands me, and I think I maybe understand him. And sometimes that can lead to very good things.
I want to start by just thanking President Moon and, very importantly, First Lady Moon, who’s a very special woman, a very special spirit. She loves your country very much, as does President Moon. And we had a great dinner last night, together, and spent a large part of the morning discussing lots of different things, including trade and military, frankly, and many other items.
But I thought I would just mention that when we came here, our great ambassador — we arrived last night — our great ambassador, who’s here someplace — Harry — was talking about the turmoil going on because of the level of — it was the vitriol. A level of vitriol that was happening between North and South. But it was North, to a large extent, where there was a lot of risk and a lot of threat, and a lot of bad things were happening. That was before I became President.
And as you know — and the media knows very well because they covered it, frankly, very well and very fairly — at the beginning, there was a lot of anger between myself and Kim Jong Un, who since — something happened. There was a point at which it happened, and all of a sudden, we get along.
And I figured that when I was in Japan, where they hosted a fantastic G20 — and I want to just thank Prime Minister Abe because he really — they did a fantastic job, and a lot of good things came out of that. A lot of good meetings with other countries, I can tell you, from the standpoint of the United States.
But we decided to come here a while ago, as part of going to the G20; I promised President Moon. And then, yesterday, I was just thinking, “Hey, I’m here. Let’s see whether or not we can say hello to Kim Jong Un.” And I put out the word, and he got back, and he wanted to do it from the beginning and so did I.
But there’s a lot of good feeling. You know, when sometimes the media will say, “Gee, what’s happened?” Well, they know what’s happened. What’s happened is there was nuclear testing, there was ballistic missile testing. They had hostages of ours, as you know. Very tough situation. And now we’re getting back our remains. We got back the hostages. There’s been no ballistic missile tests. And there’s been no nuclear tests.
And South Korea is a whole different place. And Japan. Prime Minister Abe was telling me Japan is a whole different place. They had missiles going over Japan on a very constant basis. You know that very well.
So I h**e to hear the media, you know, give false information to the public when they say, “Oh, what’s been done?” What’s been done? A lot has been done. And there’s also a good feeling. I can tell you, on behalf of President Moon, he feels much better about even Chairman Kim. I mean, he feels much better.
They couldn’t have meetings. Nobody was going to meet. President Obama wanted to meet, and Chairman Kim would not meet him. The Obama administration was begging for a meeting. They were begging for meetings constantly. And Chairman Kim would not meet with him.
And for some reason, we have a certain chemistry, or wh**ever. Now, let’s see what happens. We have a long way to go. But I’m in no rush. The sanctions are on and I’m in no rush. I’m in no rush with Iran. I’m never in a rush. If you’re in a rush, you get yourself in trouble.
So, I just want to say that we’re going to be heading out to the DMZ, and it’s something I planned long ago but had the idea yesterday to maybe say hello, just shake hands quickly and say hello because we haven’t seen each other since Vietnam. We had a great meeting in Vietnam. People don’t realize it. We had a — it’s all part of the whole negotiation. But we had actually a great meeting in Vietnam. We had a great meeting in Singapore. Everyone gave us praise for Singapore and not for Vietnam. I think, frankly, the meeting in Vietnam, in terms of a deal, was more important than Singapore.
So, I think what I’d like to do is we’ll take one or two questions, as I understand it. And then I’m going to head out to the DMZ and pay my respects to everybody, including some soldiers. We have some — we have tremendous military here in South Korea, and we’re going to see some of our great American soldiers. We’ll be talking to them. And I’ll be seeing Kim Jong Un.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: Thank you very much. I’m just g... (
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Source: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-president-moon-republic-korea-joint-press-conference/
Did Trump make the statement? YES! Was the statement true? Doesn't seem so. Kim Jong Un WAS interested in having a talk with Obama, if Obama was "begging" for a meeting, it WOULD HAVE HAPPENED!
There, I did the one for you, you can check the rest for yourself and see what we have ALL KNOWN, that Trump is a liar.