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Jan 10, 2020 10:56:41   #
factnotfiction wrote:
Sums trump quite nicely


Watch the video, it is most informative



https://www.yahoo.com/news/george-conway-trump-evangelicals-093145276.html


Who the hell ever heard of the Lincoln Project? Of course we all know who Mr. Kellyanne Conway is. He's the disgruntled fatso jerk who can't stand the fact that his wife, counselor to the President, is in the limelight daily. And he's relegated to being a fat nobody. Oh well.
Here's one tidbit that came from Jesus himself which we should all find helpful in evaluating Trump and his Presidency. "By their fruits you shall know them."
Go ahead - use any calculus (fruit) to judge Trump: economy, take-home pay, jobs, unemployment, taxes, regulations, national security, border security, judicial appointments, world standing, and on and on.
Then try doing the same for your idol, Obama.
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Jan 10, 2020 10:40:15   #
Kevyn wrote:
I see fundamentalist religion of all kinds a threat to our way of life. As it is now our first amendment gives wide protections to all religious beliefs. Perhaps it is time to change that and remove religion from the public square and restrict it to Church, Temple, Mosque, and Synagogue. But first we must amend the first amendment.


Leave it to Kevyn to jump on the h**e-America-first position!
FYI, Kevyn, Islam is a theocracy. Meaning that their religion, Islam, is not only a government, but also a form of government. With the objective of world domination. And as soon as they become a majority, Sharia law is imposed, and the minority has no rights anymore. Gone! Never to return!
And as a gay guy, Kevyn, you'll be thrown off the closest building while your captors chant Allahu Akbar.
Ya mite wanna rethink welcoming such deadly snakes into your midst.
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Jan 10, 2020 10:20:26   #
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
The registrar of v**ers called me to see if I would work the pills for the primary in cally! Ambiguous feelings there! H**e to see the demonrats and how they become more like zombies every e******n! Last e******n this person came and said we gots ya git rid of the clown, I said I thought we already had! It was 2018 theft of the v**e in cally!


I hear ya! As someone born and raised in Texas, I came to Cali about 40 years ago to accept a job offer. And while I still return once a year to reunite with family, they come out here to get away from the Texas heat and frankly, to enjoy all that the state has to offer.
Cali twice elected Reagan as governor. Except for the hard-core left leaning bay area and LA, there's no reason Cali can't become red again. Lots of conservatives feel beaten down by the constant deluge of lefty rhetoric but underneath that I think that most residents would v**e conservative if shown the true alternatives in black and white. Trump is doing as good a job as can be expected, especially highlighting Newsome's homelessness problem. Experts may write Cali off but I think that by the end of the Trump administration on 1/'25, Cali may once again be a toss up state.
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Jan 8, 2020 14:50:19   #
So I'm full of it? Ya mean about the rapture? Or about the antichrist coming first?
I have read the Bible. That's why I know the antichrist comes first.
Think El Diablo is gonna come with horns, a pitchfork and breathing fire? Think again.
He's gonna come looking like Jesus and gonna load up his wagon with those who haven't read the Bible about Satan coming first and think they're getting "raptured" away. They'll find out too late that they've ended up in the wrong place. Thankfully Jesus warned those of us who have eyes to see and ears to hear His message! Your salvation depends on knowing and getting it right!
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Jan 8, 2020 13:04:04   #
proud republican wrote:
Even if one American life lost, Trump will blow Iran up to smithereens!!!


And have you noticed that not one single American has been lost so far. What Iran did was just to save face. All for show just to vent off some steam.
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Jan 8, 2020 12:59:12   #
bahmer wrote:
Mother of "all the living"
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Who was Eve in Hebrew?

The Hebrew name for Eve is Chava (חַוָּה), from the verb lichyot (לחיות) “to live”. There are many words which are connected including chai, (חַי) and chayim (חַיִּים), all of which communicate the idea of “life”. So, it makes perfect sense to call Adam’s woman Chava, because one day she will become the mother of “all the living” kol chai (כָּל־חָי).

Eve is also referred to by another name; isha (אִשָּׁה) (Gen. 2:23), meaning "woman" in Hebrew. This is generally considered to be the feminine form of the Hebrew word for "man", ish (אִיש), however the real root reveals something much deeper. The root comes from A.N.SH. (א.נ.ש), meaning fragileness and delicacy. Interestingly, the word "fire", esh (אֵשׁ) also resonates in the Biblical name for "woman". All these subtleties of language add depth of meaning to our understanding of Eve’s name, which can only come from reading the Bible in the Hebrew language. Enroll in our live online Biblical Hebrew courses and rediscover the Bible through Hebrew.
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Eve is called the mother of all living because through her, humans have an opportunity to achieve everlasting life. Many uninformed people think that she was the first woman. Nonsense! Archeological records confirm that humans have been on earth hundreds of thousands of years. Whereas Eve can be traced back to approximately 6,000 years ago.
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Jan 8, 2020 12:52:16   #
Noraa wrote:
You need to feed this in a lot shorter versions if you want people to read it all.


And take out the fairy tales about the so-called rapture. Which will only serve to confuse lukewarm believers about who is coming to carry them away. Remember, the antichrist comes first and pretends he's Jesus, ready to whisk you away with Him.
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Jan 6, 2020 11:59:45   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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The First Amendment Rights with (Muslim Religion), is dangerous and murderous, which must be removed from religion. After all their style of government is a "theocratic form", therefore, we could include that and consolidate to a form of government instead of religion. Religion that h**es and destroys other religion must be removed from the constitution.


Bingo, Radiance3! They're a theocratic form of government!

True to form Ilhan Omar, as a member of a minority, clamors for the rights of minorities.
But when Islam becomes a majority, minorities have no rights.
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Jan 6, 2020 11:43:00   #
ziggy88 wrote:
Top 10 Bible Prophecy Stories of 2019
Researched by Pastor Gary Boyd


There was a time when news of last days’ significance was sporadic. In the last decade, that has all changed. Now, when trying to prepare a new message on the signs of the times, I find myself having to leave out information due to volume. Some things just have to be set aside.

In light of that, let me present what I think are the top ten Bible prophecy signs of 2019. As stated, I could present 110. In some cases, these signs are Tribulation-related events but they are still casting a shadow on the Church Age. They are not in order of importance because each item is important!


1) The spirit of the Antichrist has been poured out around the world.
In dozens of countries, we see anarchy, lawlessness, rage, and violence. It even came to the heartland of Minneapolis when President Trump spoke here in October. The area around the rally turned into a war zone. It is now cool to be a member of A****a and to create destruction.


2) The last year has seen the rise of Romans 1 behavior and thinking, the explosion of strong delusion, and the increase in the hatred of God.
There is a collective shrug over things like “D**g Q***n Story Hour.” So what, yet this measures our decay more than anything else. A 6’5” male won the “woman of the week” award at the University of Montana—strong delusion.

Millions of free Americans long to have our country succumb to Socialism and some are praising Marxism. Again, an irrational delusion.

The Western world now has a rabid hatred of God that would be unexplainable had the Bible not warned us that the last days would be characterized by this sentiment. First Europe threw God out and now America is close to it. This is again delusional thinking.

Seminary students in New York are praying and confessing sins to plants. That is right I said plants. How else can these things be explained other than the pouring out of strong delusion and reprobate mind thinking in these last days?

3) In the last year we have seen a rise in a new world religion called Chrislam.
The Pope of c*****e c****e has announced a global crisis. So will climate be the pathway to the New World Order? I think so. It is being ramped up everywhere. The NWO must have a crisis. It will ultimately be the Rapture of the Church but before that, their sky is falling with perceived rising temperatures.
How does an autistic teenager take the world by storm just for having a climate temper tantrum at the U.N. in September? Greta Thunberg was named the successor to Jesus Christ by her home nation of Sweden.

Understand she has a machine behind her—a g*******t climate-alarmist machine. And this kind of radicalism is becoming a global religion. It will be a major component of the coming one-world religion.

4) There is a stunning rise in wickedness. Yes, evil is to wax worse and worse (II Timothy 3:13), but it is now out-of-control.

Voodoo dolls are sold in retail stores. Witches continue to try to hex President Trump as well as all Christians or conservatives. Today this makes headlines and is the lead story on Fox News.

Walmart, Amazon, Target, Barnes & Nobles, and others, are selling the “Children’s Book of Demons”, teaching them how to conjure demons and implement them in their lives. They advertise saying, “summoning demons has never been so much fun.”

We learned this year that the d**g q***n story hour is really rooted in occultism. And the world’s largest Ouija Board made national headlines.

There are now more witches in America than there are Presbyterians according to the Pew Research Center.

Netflix is releasing a new feature January 1 titled “Messiah” but in looking at the trailer, one has to wonder if it isn’t promoting the Antichrist.

5) The mocking and scoffing of the t***h has risen to new levels (II Peter 3).
People who want to share the good news of the gospel or the hope of Christ’s return have few who will listen and those who will listen shoot the messenger and the message like never before.

Joy Behar on “The View” is acclaimed for saying Mike Pence has mental illness because he hears the voice of God.
Have you attended a good Bible prophecy conference lately? Understand these are just “hysteria conferences.” And Shame on you for believing that the King is coming any day.

Just about the entire secular Left is mocking Christianity or coming up with new laws to undermine Christianity.

6) Christians and Jews are on the run.
Christians are running for their lives and Jews are running to Israel for safety. As The Gatestone Institute reports, the numbers of Christians being k**led for their faith is “too many to count.”

Pope Francis just stated that fundamentalist Christians are a “scourge.” Jews and Christians are the “people of the book” and the predicted last days’ condemnation on both has risen to new heights in the last year.

A pro-Palestinian group at the University of Minnesota, just 20 minutes from my home, just called for the slaughter of all Jews and had enormous local support.

Anti-Semites like Rick Wiles are gaining in popularity as he calls the mess in Washington a “Jew c**p” and blames the Jews for every problem in the world. He even says their goal is to k**l all Christians!

7) The “epicenter”—the Middle East—is in a shake-up.
Vladimir Putin is now being called the new “King of the Middle East.” Is this a foreshadowing of Ezekiel 38-39—the Gog-Magog war?

The constant turmoil is a foreshadowing and stage-setting of a foretold event, the obliteration of Damascus (Isaiah 17:1) likely followed by the Gog-Magog War.
We are just one e******n away from the complete U.S. abandonment of Israel if a l*****t gains the White House.

8) The efforts of the g*******ts were advanced in the last year.
Pope Francis continued to beat a drum for globalism. Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu continue to represent the nationalist mentality and the g*******ts are trying to run both out of office.
The United Nations called for global government in less than 12 years.
Europe cries for no borders and liberals in America decry borders.
The world continues to long for a single leader to make all things right as well as for global government.

9) The Church of Laodicea blossomed and lurched even further to the left in the last year.
Apostasy is talked about more than just about any other end-time phenomenon.
Movements such as the New Apostolic Reformation gained new strength calling for Heaven on earth and emphasizing experiential Christianity. This is the fastest-growing “denomination” in the world.
Social justice and “critical race theory” became prominent in the evangelical church that once emphasized soul-winning.

Bible prophecy and Christian support for Israel fell deeper into obscurity in the church.

10) The surveillance of humanity is now big business and privacy is completely gone.
New technologies have emerged that reveal our every step is now being tracked. Someone is following our every move online and our “smart” devices, that seem smarter than humans, are spying on us 24/7. This is a set-up for Antichrist’s empire, as is new technology utilizing artificial intelligence.

Limiting my list to just ten important items forced me to leave off events such as third temple talk in Israel, record-setting birth-pang natural disaster destruction worldwide, and the stunning “convergence” of things we have never seen so prominent.

But, I hope I have helped you focus on “signs of the times” that are a herald of His coming in the last year.
And keep in mind that many of these items are going to fully blossom in the Tribulation. What we have now is just a foretaste of things to come. God will spare His True Church from this wrath as we are enjoying Heaven during this seven-year period of utter chaos on earth.

While it is a challenge to be born for such a time as this, it is encouraging to know that everything is falling into place. Maranantha…….
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Couldn't agree with you more.
Any idea about the he-goat described in Daniel 8:3-7 who comes from the west and makes his nation exceedingly great and who moves with choler against the ram Daniel first saw in his visions, and the he-goat runs into the ram with the fury of his power, smites the ram, breaks the ram's horns, and casts him to the ground, adding that there was no power that could stand up to the he-goat?
I've got my own ideas about who that means.
BTW, did you know that Donald means world leader?
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Jan 6, 2020 10:58:08   #
Fodaoson wrote:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
If we are to exclude Muslims from immigrating to the US we have to change the constitution .


Not so fast. Islam, besides being a religion, is a form of government. As soon as they become a majority they have to impose Sharia Law. Which is in direct conflict with our constitution in that those who don't subscribe to Sharia Law are summarily dispatched.
So we don't need to amend the constitution to keep them out.
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Jan 6, 2020 09:43:40   #
Lonewolf wrote:
You play tit for tat with them you lose! Hell the most powerful nation in the world has once again been stopped in it tracks by guys in pajamas sound familiar 20 years we bombed them and now there are more of then when we started! I don't want to ban weapons I think we should have any weapons the police have including full auto!


Whaddya know? Lonesome and I are in agreement on something again. If the government (police) has full auto firearms, so should the people.
But living here in the bay area of Cali., I'm not gonna hold my breath.
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Jan 5, 2020 12:16:17   #
MR Mister wrote:
Jeffrey David Cox - real name just David Cox) is the head of Federal Prison Guards in Manhattan. Jeffery is the boss of the guards who were supposed to keep Jeffery Epstein alive while in the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan. He also is friends with Bill and Hillary Clinton. This is such a small world

11/24/19 David Cox just had a $20 million mansion "bought for him" in Shanghai, by a company called HSBC Holdings. HSBC had been found to have money laundered and funded terrorists and Mexican drug cartels. Hillary buried this in 2012 by negotiating it down to a relatively small fine. On July 30, 2019, Russian intelligence picked up info regarding a hit on Epstein being ordered, for exactly $100mil. On Aug. 3, 2019, Clinton linked entities in NYC t***sfer $100mil to HSBC. HSBC t***sferred $50m to their China branch, who then used it to buy the mansion, as well as a $7m luxury apartment for another Clinton connected union boss in charge of hiring guards. Aug 10 2019 Epstein found dead in an ultra-secure prison where only 1 other person has ever been able to commit suicide... Such a small world...
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The extent of Hillary's corruption knows no bounds! As long as it involved money for favors, count her in. As far as suicide I thought I read that Epstein had a carotid bone broken in his neck which rarely happens when someone hangs themselves. But frequently happens when another person strangles them.
I thank God every day that Hillary wasn't elected!
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Jan 5, 2020 12:07:44   #
slatten49 wrote:
By Richard K. Rein- October 31, 2018 https://princetoninfo.com/how-can-we-bridge-the-partisan-divide/

What do you say, what do you do, a week from today if you wake up in the morning and discover that Trump still controls the Senate and the House of Representatives?

What do you do when you see Trump on steroids, calling out the uncontrollable mobs of Democrats, who are “too dangerous to rule,” at his own raucous rallies? Or when he demands that we observe the principle of innocent until proven guilty while the crowd in the background chants “Lock her up, lock her up?” Or when he derides the media as “the enemy of the people,” while telling his supporters he’s going to “act nice,” in a childish tone that lets everyone know that the nice guy moment really is just an act?

What do you do, what do you say? Wh**ever the outcome on November 6, you might want to consider some deeds and words that you haven’t considered for the last two years or so. At this point wh**ever you have been doing hasn’t been enough.

I’ve been thinking about how best to affect the public realm. I did a recent column on Princeton Future and realized how some residents could influence their neighborhood, and how the neighborhood could impact the city. Over the summer I reported on the challenges facing Trenton and noted the small steps that could signal that progress is possible. Earlier this year I interviewed an author who urges cities to take a bottom-up approach to such global issues as c*****e c****e, arguing that they can take up much of the slack left by a disinterested federal government.

As this midterm e******n approached, I wondered if a bottom-up approach could help solve the ever-widening political divide, which will only become worse with an impulsive president unchecked by either house of congress and probably not by the judicial branch, as well, judging from the Supreme Court’s current composition.

Literally as I was composing this column, I was visited by an angel, in effect, who had already done a lot of serious thinking on this subject. It was a group called Better Angels, a nationwide nonprofit aimed at defusing the political climate. It was brought to my attention by an active member in Princeton, Marcia Willsie. She has arranged for the founder of the group, David Blankenhorn, to speak at a Princeton University class on Friday, November 9. Willsie is hoping that some public workshops can be arranged in town. We will keep you apprised of that, but meanwhile the time seems right for this column to consider the organization’s views.

First we really are polarized, the polarization is worse than ever, and the causes are too many to be blamed on one side of the divide or the other. The website, www.BetterAngels.org, has a list of contributing factors. Among them:

The end of the Cold War, and the loss of a global enemy to keep us united; the rise of identity-group politics, as opposed to values-based groups; increased religious diversity, including growing secularization; growing racial and ethnic diversity; and the passing of the Greatest Generation, which embodied concern for the general welfare and a shared civic faith.

You could summarize the change in world view by quoting two celebrities from different eras. After the e******n of John F. Kennedy in 1960, staunch Republican actor John Wayne said, “I didn’t v**e for him but he’s my president, and I hope he does a good job.” After the e******n of Barack Obama in 2008, talk radio’s Rush Limbaugh said “I hope he fails.”

But rather than wring our hands in despair, what can we do or say to change our fortunes, if only a little?
Better Angels draws its name from Abraham Lincoln’s 1861 inaugural address: “We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory…will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature.”

To elicit the better angels in all of us the organization has developed a set of communication strategies to create a common ground on which people can exchange opposing views with a minimum of rancor. The details include common sense tips from tone setting sk**ls (offering something critical of your own side and something positive about the other side) to listening sk**ls (paraphrasing what you heard the other person say so he knows he was understood) and speaking sk**ls (using “I’m concerned/worried/troubled” expressions rather than definitive “This is what will happen” statements). Better Angels reminds participants that stories “humanize issues and make passionate political people come across as human beings who care.”

Better Angels offers some sk**ls for “difficult moments” — appropriate these days. Stay focused on a topic when the other person jumps around; don’t answer baiting questions — instead, just restate your viewpoint; do not return provocative statements in kind; agree to disagree; and if the conversation reaches an impasse, exit the conversation in a low-key way.

Good advice, needed now more than ever. I would like to add some rhetorical pointers, collected since writing a column shortly after the 2016 e******n. At that time I advised the people who were in anguish over Trump’s e******n to stop the whining and get to work to change the political direction. I immediately got a note from a U.S. 1 reader and occasional contributor, who berated me for, yes, whining about the results. He was a h**er of Hillary, a Trump supporter as a result of that, and sick and tired of liberal posturing.

So lesson No. 1: Never assume you know someone else’s views. And never assume they know yours.
Another lesson: Let the other side play the “what about” game, and don’t waste your time trying to re-litigate old scandals. But after the other side is done bring the discussion back to the here and now.
Two Princeton faculty members with mostly opposite political views who normally engage in productive dialogue got mired in “what about-ism” during the Kavanaugh Supreme Court hearings. Politically and socially conservative professor Robert George tweeted some “what about” comments about one of Bill Clinton’s alleged liaisons: “Juanita Broaddrick . . . bravely told the story of what Bill Clinton had done to her — and what Hillary Clinton said to her — Dianne Feinstein said . . . ? Dick Durbin said . . . ? Other prominent Democrats said . . . ? When Kathleen Willey stepped forward . . .”

To which Sam Wang, left-leaning neuroscience professor (and savvy aggregator of polls and data that form the basis of the anti-gerrymandering movement), replied: “When Senator Franken’s accuser stepped forward, Democrats acted. When Harvey Weinstein’s accusers stepped forward, the movie industry acted. Times change…haltingly.”

Which brings us to the lesson of Brett Kavanaugh. Barring proof of criminal action, let’s agree to ignore teenage and even young-adult indiscretions. Even jerks deserve redemption. Once the charges against Kavanaugh couldn’t be corroborated, it was time to move from past to present. Kavanaugh presented plenty during the hearing itself to disqualify himself — lack of empathy for a woman who in her mind had been violated by someone, turning questions back at the questioner, deflecting the conversation to conspiracies and the Clintons, and the overarching disdain for the process, which had clearly become inconvenient for him. Profile of a liar, not a justice.

But all that lack of judicial temperament was lost amid the he said/she said accusations. Too bad.

One more thing to keep in mind when you wake up the morning after the e******n: Support your local police. Last Friday night, as news reports were aired about the capture of the “MAGAbomber,” I marveled at all the other home grown terrorists who had been corralled by police in just the previous week. The next day I marveled again when Pittsburgh police halted the carnage and captured the shooter — alive!

Many years ago I listened to the audio tape of President Kennedy confronting Governor George Wallace before Kennedy ordered the National Guard to ensure the entrance of two black students to the University of Alabama. I marveled at the resolve in the president’s voice. Times like that were the reason for a strong federal government. Now, as I witness the words and deeds emanating from the highest reaches of the federal government, I realize that times like these are the reason for fair and effective local law enforcement. Times have changed.

Oh, and v**e.
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And v**e they will! Giving voice to the many millions of disenfranchised v**ers who are realizing that the Democrats offer up nothing but crumbs every 4 years to get v**es from b****s, hispanics, and other minority v**ers, only to turn their backs on them, and ignore them right after the e******n. That's why organizations like Candace Owen's Blexit, urging b****s to exit the Democratic party are signing on record numbers. Or the Walkaway movement by former liberal Brandon Straka, a gay NY hairdresser, which is already exploding with new members.

Conservatives will be focused laser-like on messages and platforms being advocated by Democrats. And guess what Slatts? There's not a single one of them in the clown car to date that can hold a candle to Trump's accomplishments! You can dismiss the top runners, Warren and Sanders outright cuz we're not socialists. And Biden may have gotten himself into more than he bargained for when all the dust from the Ukraine investigation settles - even now he's looking like a very c*********d, corrupt candidate. So what's left - Preacher Mayor Pete? HAH!
We conservatives will take straight talking over platitudes. A cage fight of ideas to see which ideas win out! And records of accomplishments over promises of utopia any day!
2020 promises to be a blowout year. It's gonna make e******n night 2016 look like just another boring news cycle! So fasten your seatbelt!
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Jan 5, 2020 11:28:11   #
Lonewolf wrote:
K*****g terrorist is a good thing but to do it to deflect from his legal problems is another thing


Maybe you didn't catch the tv clips showing the absolute anarchy of the terrorists in the street, at the walls of the American embassy in Baghdad before General Soleimani even arrived. That's an American asset, American property.
They destroyed everything they could possibly get their hands on. Some demonstrators are even shown attempting to pull down the barbed wire that encircles the perimeter. Is there any real question about why Soleimani was going to Baghdad? Hint - it wasn't a peacekeeping, Gandhi-like mission.
He would have incited them to breech the walls, and to duplicate B******i.

Trump did NOT neutralize Soleimani because of Trump's (nonexistent) legal problems. He did it because that's the correct response to lawless thugs who act with impunity, believing there's no consequences for their actions! You chop off the head of the movement - thereby causing the thugs to reconsider their actions!
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Jan 4, 2020 10:07:12   #
proud republican wrote:
So what,you would rather for us to wait and see?? There was credible information that he was on the way to k**l more Americans!!! Would you rather he was successful at that?? And if he was successful at murdering more of US what you people would say??I doubt you would be nice!! HYPOCRITES!!!!


Exactly! He was the one who masterminded the attack on the American embassy in Bagdad, which we all saw on tv. And he was returning to Bagdad from Lebanon. Hmm, I wonder why.
For all y'all clutching their pearls (like Kevyn), wondering what was gonna happen next, Soleimani envisioned another B******i. Breach the walls, burn the place down and k**l all Americans inside the compound.
Trump saw the destruction already being wreaked on an American asset before the walls were ever breached and and decided, "Enough! Time to neutralize him!"
Bravo Trump!
For a bunch of towelhead thugs to think they're gonna get away with even destroying private property is already too much. Forget about it even escalating to loss of life. There are consequences to their actions and Trump just took out the head of the snake.
Civilized societies do NOT tolerate such wanton destruction. Im surprised Trump didn't give the order to shoot the mob - after an appropriate warning of course.
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