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Jul 31, 2019 10:53:08   #
byronglimish wrote:
Exactly...every word!!

Thank you, Byron. But unfortunately I think I misspoke, you’ll see when you get to my second response to Kevyn.
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Jul 31, 2019 08:58:16   #
Kevyn wrote:
Of course it’s legal, states run their own e******ns.

Kevyn, I owe you an apology, and upon further reading, I need to correct myself a little. When I first read the bill, I mistook it for an attempt at rewriting the constitution, which appears not to be the case. The bill is adding to the requirements a person will need to meet in order to have their name on the state b****t, which according to b****tpedia, states are well within their rights to do. https://b****tpedia.org/B****t_access_for_p**********l_candidates

However, I still maintain that this law is in violation of the freedom of association clause under the first amendment. I have read nothing to change my opinion on that matter. However, if you know of any information regarding this I would appreciate you posting said information.
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Jul 31, 2019 08:37:55   #
Larai wrote:
Good to know

Good morning, Larai. I noticed you received a bit of feedback regarding your posts. I was hoping you could endure just one more tidbit. Some points here are reiterated...but it also contains other points.
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Most Americans Misunderstand the First Amendment's Role in Religion.

Most Americans have been conditioned to believe and to assume that the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution requires a “wall of separation between Church and State.” This concept is seldom challenged today . . . but it is not actually a part of the Constitution or any of the Amendments; it did not exist until well into the twentieth century.

The establishment and free-exercise clauses of the First Amendment state: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” The meaning was crystal clear to Americans and American jurisprudence for generations. Very simply, the federal government was prohibited from establishing a single national denomination above all others (a state religion—endowed with public funding, special privileges, and penalties on other faiths that reject its doctrines—as Great Britain had) and secondly, the federal government could not interfere with the individual’s right to freedom of worship.

The purpose of the First Amendment was not to protect Americans from religion, it was to protect religion from government intrusion. This “understanding” is in full and obvious accord with the raison d’etre of the Bill of Rights to limit the federal government’s power and thereby secure the freedom of individuals and the rights of the states. The Bill of Rights was a declaration of what the federal government could not do.

The intent of the First Amendment could never have been to separate church and state. Virtually all state constitutions of that day required their elected officials to affirm belief in the Christian faith.[1] Not one of the states would have ratified the First Amendment in violation of their constitutions had its purpose been to separate religious principles from public life.

Quotations from the framers of the Constitution and other leaders of early America illustrate this great principle. George Washington as our first President said, “Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, Religion and Morality are indispensable supports.” And our second President, John Adams, told us, “It is Religion and Morality alone which can establish the principles under which Freedom can securely stand.” Benjamin Franklin echoed Adams’ sentiment: “Only a virtuous people are capable of Freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.”

On the same theme, Dr. Benjamin Rush, a Signer of the Declaration and a leading thinker of the period, said that, “The only foundation for a Republic is to be laid in Religion. Without this, there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty.” And James Wilson, who signed the Declaration and the Constitution for Pennsylvania, pointed out that “Far from being rivals or enemies, religion and law are twin sisters, friends and mutual assistants. Indeed, these two sciences run into each other. The divine law, as discovered by reason and the moral sense, forms an essential part of both.”

Yes, it would have been impossible for these God-fearing men to have deliberately built a “Wall of Separation” between church and state. Here is how the phrase and eventually the concept of this “wall of separation” originated.

In 1801, the Danbury Baptist Association wrote a letter to President Thomas Jefferson. They were alarmed about a rumor. Was a national denomination soon to be established? Jefferson responded by letter on January 1, 1802, assuring them that there was no basis to the rumor. He said, “I contemplate with solemn reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should `make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.”

The Danbury Baptists were apparently satisfied. They understood the “wall” to be one-directional, protecting them and other churches from possible discrimination and harm by means of a “governmental-favored denomination” status. Nevertheless, Jefferson’s eight-word phrase, “a wall of separation between Church and State,” has become the defining metaphor for today’s misinterpretation of the First Amendment.

Obviously, Jefferson’s letter and this phrase are not part of the First Amendment and it appears far-fetched legal “reasoning” to give it the force of law or to infer intent by the delegates to the Constitutional Convention of 1787.

Jefferson’s letter remained in relative obscurity until 1878, when the Supreme Court, in the case of Reynolds vs. United States, cited the whole letter. According to the Court, the “wall of separation between Church and State” meant, “Congress was deprived of all legislative power over mere [religious] opinions, but was left free to reach [only those religious] actions which were in violation of social duties or subversive of good order.” Thus, the Court ruled against the Mormon practice of polygamy and bigamy because the Justices considered it to be subversive of good order. In other words, the Court used the concept of “separation of Church and State” to keep a general religious principle, monogamy, integral to our society.

Nearly 70 years later, in the 1947 Supreme Court case of Everson vs. Board of Education, a major conceptual change occurred. Citing onlyJefferson’s eight words (“a wall of separation between Church and State”) and not their context or previous Supreme Court interpretations, it declared a new meaning: a separation of basic religious principles from public life. Indeed, Jefferson’s eight words became the catch phrase for this new concept.

Then, in 1962 the Supreme Court, in the case of Engel vs. Vitale, redefined the word “church” to mean “a religious activity in public.” The revolt against the roots of Americanism had begun in earnest. Separation of Church and State now meant the government (or state) and its institutions must be “protected” from religion.

Since 1962 there have been over 6,000 court cases challenging religious expressions in public institutions and public life. For example, numerous court cases ruled that verbal prayers in public schools, even if voluntary and denominationally neutral, were un-Constitutional. In 1980, it was ruled that it was un-Constitutional to hang the Ten Commandments on the walls of public school classrooms (ironically, the Ten Commandments are engraved on the chamber walls of the Supreme Court). And in Virginia, a federal court ruled a homosexual newspaper may be distributed on a high school campus, but religious newspapers may not. Needless to say, a cultural war of mammoth proportions was unleashed by the Everson and Engel rulings.

Interestingly, and significantly, the 1990s have seen more and more court decisions based on the original intent of our Founding Fathers. The Supreme Court ruled in 1990, for instance, that it is permissible to have prayer and Bible clubs at public high schools. The justices also decided in another case that premarital sexual abstinence programs, while religious in nature, can be taught in public schools. The tide appears to be turning back to our traditional, Godly American heritage.


By: Judd W. Patton

(Dr. Patton is Associate Professor of Economics at Bellevue University, a liberal arts college located at Bellevue, Nebraska. He is also editor of The Bottom Line, a scholarly quarterly published by the Entrepreneurial Leadership Center of the University.)

-Footnote-

1. David Barton, The Myth of Separation (Wallbuilder Press, 1991), pp. 25-35.
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Jul 31, 2019 07:33:01   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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Thank you very much. This is very beautiful and valuable sequel of last week's history of our country.

Thank you, Radiance. I hope you enjoy next Saturday’s equally as much, if not more.
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Review of the Founder's achievements, further broadens my love and appreciation, who made all these things possible.
Their bravery, brilliance of these most talented men, their sacrifices, and fortunes, are the most precious legacy and gifts, they've vested to all of us.

So true!
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But it bothers me much, that the liberals and socialist democrats are now destroying the statues of the Founders, E.g. President George Washington,( General of the battle of Banker Hill, 1775; First US president, and Thomas Jefferson, the framer and summarized the Declaration of Independence, US President March 4, 1801-1809. They gave us liberty and freedom thru their earned sacrifices.
Without them, there is no America today

Agreed. It bothers me as well, and for that I think we can blame our deteriorating education system. As I read historical accounts, I often wonder how things could have turned out differently with just one slight change in any of the numerous decisions made by either of the men involved.

Thanks again, Radiance. See you next Saturday.
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Jul 30, 2019 16:34:03   #
Kevyn wrote:
Of course it’s legal, states run their own e******ns.


No. It’s not. It’s entirely unconstitutional for a single state to unilaterally add, change, or subtract to/from the eligibility requirements for POTUS and/or VPOTUS, or any part of the Constitution. It would require an amendment to the constitution. Even the clown Jerry Brown recognized this back in 2017 when he vetoed a similar bill. This bill was passed by a straight party line by California’s constitutionally ignorant democrat party. And IF.. if this somehow miraculously passes constitutional muster (it won’t) it has no bearing on write in contenders. So there’s already a built in way around this absurdity. Additionally, it violates the first amendment. This bill is as good as dead.
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Jul 30, 2019 07:41:30   #
rumitoid wrote:
Like so may things that sound so nearly true generated by emotions and false dichotomies, that is the substance of her writing.

Your opinion is noted. In my opinion, your writings could be described in the exact same way, except short on substance.
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It has a strong allure to the passionate Conservative. But lacks any heart or compassion. It is stone cold denial of the reality of American citizens.

I don’t believe the intent of her writing was to express either of those things. I think she was expressing her befuddlement, annoyance, frustration, exasperation, and perhaps a touch of contempt.
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Jul 29, 2019 13:14:05   #
Armageddun wrote:
Wouldn't it be nice if just once we could have just one page where we could all agree on the simplest thing?
Wouldn't it be nice if just once we could have jus... (show quote)

Indeed it would, sir.

I read your post long before Mr. Wolfe’s contribution, and I was going to post a response but decided to hold back and just watch/read. But as I continued to read various other threads to include other posts by Mr. Wolfe, I just couldn’t let slide his lies any further. I apologize for bringing contention to your excellent article, I will make a more concerted effort to restrain myself so as not to sully a well intentioned thread.

My original comment was going to let you know that I am a millennial, same age as the female author, and that there are a great number us out here. Though we are forced to some degree, to lay low with our opinions so as not to suffer the new technological forms of retaliation by those that share a differing opinion, social media retaliation is real and it’s effective. I have a lot of admiration for that young lady for being able and willing to provide her real name.

Thank you for posting that.
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Jul 29, 2019 10:30:49   #
Lonewolf wrote:
Trumps ecomney is starting to fall below obamas were looking at gdp below 2% wares the 4,% trump promised! All Trump does is run business into the ground.


Speaking of bricks....

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/economic-growth-reached-3-percent-first-time-decade-thanks-president-donald-j-trumps-policies/
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Jul 29, 2019 09:27:21   #
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
A retreat is a controlled withdrawal to minimize losses. "Being driven from" implies that the British were the winners.


Historians do say that the British won. Albeit a Pyrrhic victory, initially.
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Jul 29, 2019 07:49:47   #
markc wrote:
Mentioning quotes, then I have to ad one from an all time favorite, IMO:
“If the world comes to an end, I want to be in Cincinnati. Everything comes there ten years later.” Mark Twain


Lol... Twain is a virtual treasure trove of great quotes.
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Jul 29, 2019 07:48:44   #
markc wrote:
Then look to Alexander Hamilton in the first paragraph:
“Young Alexander Hamilton put the matter this way: "What then is the subject of our controversy with the mother country? —“

This from a man that supported a strong central government. It can’t be both ways. There is only one direction or the other, esp.in our present political climate, or do you disagree that there can be compromise for the benefit of all?

Thanks a fair point, Mark. As to your question... in this day and age? I have my doubts but I hold out hope.
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Jul 29, 2019 07:45:36   #
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
One thing; the British did not drive the Colonials from Breed's Hill. The Colonials were forced to retreat because they ran out of ammo.

The author didn’t provide a reason, but the one you give is historically correct, thank you.

I’m not a military person, especially when it comes to terminology. If you wouldn’t mind, could you explain the difference between “being driven from” and “retreating”? Does it boil down the reason for either? This is for my own edification. Be much appreciated, Smedley, thanks.
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Jul 29, 2019 07:37:43   #
Hug wrote:
Another great American History lesson. Thank you

My pleasure, Hug. Thank you.
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Jul 28, 2019 15:49:41   #
ImLogicallyRight wrote:
You can't be a r****t unless you are a white male Republican from the "Bible of Illogical Democratic Thought."

Dagnabit!!!

And here I thought I was going to feed him his favorite dish; hypocrisy flavored crow.
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Jul 28, 2019 13:52:36   #
Kevyn wrote:
In its response to Donald Trump’s r****t attack on congressman Elijah Cummings, the editorial board of the Baltimore Sun said it “would not sink to name-calling in the Trumpian manner”.

But it did enumerate some of the president’s failings in office and liken him to a creature he said “infested” Cummings’ congressional district: a rat.

“We,” the board wrote, “would tell the most dishonest man to ever occupy the Oval Office, the mocker of war heroes, the gleeful grabber of women’s private parts, the serial bankrupter of businesses, the useful i***t of Vladimir Putin and the guy who insisted there are ‘good people’ among murderous neo-N**is that he’s still not fooling most Americans into believing he’s even slightly competent in his current post. Or that he possesses a scintilla of integrity.

“Better to have some vermin living in your neighborhood than to be one.”
In its response to Donald Trump’s r****t attack on... (show quote)


Was the board equally upset with Sanders and Obama when they said the same thing a few years ago? Why aren’t Sanders and Obama “R****T”?
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