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Feb 25, 2016 23:50:06   #
I think if you make that comparison, you have to say the same of the Trump rise fuel to Sanders rise fuel too.

Sanders also makes broad claims (the system is r****d and Wall Street is corrupt) that are exactly the same and exploits those who feel victim of powerful forces that they do not understand and cannot influence. It may seem the system is r****d or that all of Wall Street is corrupt the same as some feel all police officers are against African Americans. That fear fuels the political personality rise.

The facts are not as dramatic and are boring and dismiss the feeling of somehow being a victim of "those other groups".

It's just a matter of semantics whether "those other groups" are the one percenter bankers, i*****l i*******ts or Jews.

Raylan Wolfe wrote:
The social conditions that are driving the uneducated v**ers to Trump also explains the rise of f*****t leaders such as Adolf Hitler!

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/chomsky-trumps-rise-fueled-by-same-societal-breakdown-that-birthed-hitler/
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Feb 22, 2016 00:38:51   #
Now what makes you think the president will be able to do much about the economy? Won't the president need congress too? What if Trump is the nominee because they will be afraid of a third party or GOP boycott called on by Trump? I mean, GOP controls a lot but can't control all the v**es. If the GOP caucus is for Trump, it is no different than when the GOP caucus was for Tea Patriots in 2012 congressional districts. The GOP will just have to try to teach Trump and hope he catches on. Sort of like the recent Obamacare mandate thing. He said he was for it but the next day, in retrospective interviews, explained how that was a misquote.

I think Trump can get it but I also think Clinton would be okay too. She understands, IMHO, conservative basics to the point where she wouldn't offend the GOP in matters such as Wall Street. She gets how Wall Street is necessary for a capitalist society and wouldn't be for breaking it up like the socialist Sanders. Clinton has her liberal social baggage but that is acceptable because she is hip to the benefits of large corporations that are a national asset far more than they are a burden for reasons of jobs, potential economic growth and tax base to support those liberal social priorities. I can envision her working in tandem with a GOP congress in matters of corporate/WallStreet incentives to spur the economy for middle class Americans.

A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
Hello, I am a Democrat, consider myself to be liberal and I am v****g for Hillary in November. I think she is the most qualified candidate, especially in the area of foreign policy. She will also have Presidents Clinton and Obama as knowledgeable advisors in the areas relating to the economy. I do not think Trump will get the nomination because the GOP will be afraid they will lose moderate Republicans and Independents. Time will tell
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Feb 20, 2016 21:52:00   #
Libs think government is the way. Government makes laws. Laws are a way they can have what they want and what the majority would never allow.


Steve700 wrote:
Liberals are fanatically devout and religious - for Government Almighty. Politicians are their high priests, liberal colleges their seminaries, a******n their holiest sacrament, and liberal media their choir. Here is their "Apostates Creed" (apologies to the Catholic Apostles Creed):
I believe in Government Almighty,
Sustainer and savior of Earth.
And in Marx and Darwin, our Lords,
who were conceived by Evolution,
born of pure Reason (from opposite land),
suffered under Christianity,
were exhumed, glorified and deified.
They descended into the state education establishment,
Where they infected the tenured brain-dead.
They were force-fed to the young from age six
And drilled into their skulls,
To ensure that no one harbors the God Delusion.
Henceforth they will torment the entire planet.
I believe in the Holy Welfare State,
the holy sacrament of A******n,
the communion of Same-Sex Marriage,
the eradication of Christians,
the resurrection of Mao, Stalin, Lenin, and all those other cool guys,
and the life Totalitarian. Amen
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Feb 14, 2016 13:04:11   #
This is a sign. Do we follow the Constitution or obstruct it? A better outcome could come from obstruction of the law but there's really no promise it will. Then, how will we reconcile our principles? I tend to believe Scalia stood for the Constitution and its principles.
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Feb 12, 2016 21:31:47   #
These things already been done and she ain't even been elected. Where the heck has Cruz been?


cold iron wrote:
Ted Cruz Issues Chilling Warning: “If Hillary Is Elected, This Is What Will Happen…”

Here’s why this P**********l e******n is so important.
Yes, even if Hillary Clinton is elected President, a Republican Congress can still prevent her from doing too much damage.
However, with an aging Supreme Court and narrow conservative majority, one liberal justice appointment will put
your gun rights in jeopardy and there are 3 judges in there 80’s ... They will be replaced with gun hating liberal’s
and they will serve for the rest of your life.....
“We are one justice away from a five-justice, ultra-left wing majority that will tear down our constitutional liberties fundamentally,” Cruz said.
That same liberal-run court will also move to take down religious symbols on public property, he added.
“If Hillary Clinton is elected president, we will see the Supreme Court ordering Ten Commandments monuments to be torn down on courthouses and public steps all across this country,” Cruz said during a Q&A with evangelical leader James Dobson.
After Cruz warned that the government might make it a felony to own a gun, an audience member at the packed event at the Winterset Stage called out: ”Come and take it!”
Even with a Republican Congress, Hillary would likely get her Supreme Court nominations vetted and approved.
With Hillary as President you can kiss free speech, freedom of religion, and the Second Amendment rights goodbye.
Just remember, it’s all up to us the v**ers.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/01/04/ted-cruz-supreme-court-will-dismantle-second-amendment-if-hillary-clinton-is-elected-president/
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Feb 11, 2016 23:17:58   #
The NH culture thrives on whining and complaining. They go for the 'economy is r****d' schtick the same as they all believe the 'nfl is r****d against Tom Brady and the Pats'. Also, the price of milk is r****d and there would be a cure for cancer but doctors have the whole system r****d.

It's too much to count on Sanders taking it away from Clinton just yet. The GOP would love to go up against Sanders and his socialist ideas but I'm not counting on it.

Worried for our children wrote:
Painful blow for Clinton

New Hampshire also delivered a painful personal blow to Hillary Clinton, who squeezed out the narrowest of victories in Iowa last week. The scale of her defeat — by more than 20 points — is likely to fuel signs of growing internal rancor in her campaign and complaints by Democrats that her message as a progressive who gets results is no match for Sanders' heady demands for a political revolution, which has inspired younger Democratic v**ers.

The loss was especially rough because New Hampshire has long been kind to the Clintons. It's the state that made Bill Clinton the "comeback kid" in 1992. And Hillary Clinton beat Barack Obama there in 2008, salvaging her campaign after a third place showing in Iowa.

A hoarse but jubilant Sanders proclaimed his victory to be the result of a "huuuuge" turnout. His emphatic performance will now propel him into a nationwide battle against Clinton as he attempts to shatter the firewall among ethnically diverse v**ers that she has built in South Carolina and other southern states.

"Tonight we have sent a message that will echo from Wall Street to Washington from Maine to California," he said, before predicting that the race against Clinton was going to quickly get even more contentious.

"They are throwing everything at me except the kitchen sink and I have the feeling that the kitchen sink is coming pretty soon as well," he said.

Clinton appeared in her concession speech to be trying to co-opt Sanders' message about an economy stacked against the middle class.

"Now we take this campaign to the entire country. We are going to fight for every v**e in every state," she said, foreshadowing a long fight for the nomination that she was once expected to win easily.

Sanders led Clinton 60% to 39%. His gaping margin of victory dwarfed the few tenths of one percent by which the former secretary of state prevailed in the Iowa caucuses last week.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/09/politics/new-hampshire-primary-highlights/

60% !!!! 60% !!!! - v**ed for socialism .... 60% !!! - in the "Live free or die state" ...
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Feb 11, 2016 18:18:43   #
Oh sure, there was no problem that the free market couldn't solve on it's own. The number one cause of bankruptcy used to be medical bills and that included those with insurance who were told they'd just become uninsurable with an illness they categorized as "pre-existing condition". Free market sure solves that problem.

But actually, the private industry told government they could cover pre-existing conditions if everyone buys insurance. Then, the actuary equations work because they no longer have to figure paying the bills for those without insurance.

Nuns believe that sex is morally wrong unless the couple grudgingly does it for the selfless sole purpose of procreation. They also believe k*****g and weapons are morally objectionable and don't want any of their employee's taxes to go toward nuclear bombs or capital punishment of terrorists.

I won't have to call for any government intervention because if the insurance industry goes down, they'll be asking for the government to impose more Obamacare just like the auto industry and banking industry called for government intervention. Looks like you are wrong about that and the proof is that intervention works much better than the free market.

The free market is much too volatile to be able to exist on it's own without government regulations to even out the booms against busts.

crazylibertarian wrote:
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Show me just one study that showed the entire mess was necessary. I know of none.

Government caused much of the problems in the first place. To think government can fix anything that people can't is an illusion.

And forcing those nuns to pay for something they find morally repugnant is morally repugnant. It's like asking Israel to fund a commemorative for Hitler.

And you say, "The problems fixed by affordable care make the complaints caused by it pale in comparison." And what happens, pray tell UncleJesse, when the inevitable problems from Obamacare emerge? I'm sure you will call for more government intervention.
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Feb 11, 2016 00:00:39   #
You have amnesia believing that the free market can solve it when they had 50 years and just made matters worse.

Paying for birth control pills ain't the problem. That stuff is cheap.

The problem is all the smokers, drinkers and sugar addicts not those wanting hanky panky but no baby.

Proof is in the pudding. They tried taking the "middle man" government out of it and costs skyrocketed. The bright idea to let the free market solve it rendered big pharma telling taxpayers what the drugs costs rather than price negotiation in normal, regulated systems. You don't understand that when you apply the free market principle to a sole source/supplier and no negotiator, the free market goes on a shopping spree.

CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Please review a private sector, a competitive free market insurance substitute to Obamacare:
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr2653
H.R. 2653: American Health Care Reform Act of 2015

I have a way to fight this apathetic, selfish, irresponsible medical system of government tyrannical malpractice.
I write my Congressmen. Every letter is worth 10,000 voices.

As a senior citizen having to pay 15% of my wages into FICA taxes, of which not a penny has been invested.

I am currently reduced to a very modest lifestyle because of being forced to pay for promiscuous public orgies and poisoned babies neutered by Big Pharma and the Health Department pushing birth control pills. Have you no moral conscience?

50% of American babies are little bastards with the Government as their nanny. Where are the men bearing responsibility?

60 million babies have been aborted since Row vs. Wade, and more on the way. Had there been no free a******n services available, the vast majority of these babies never would have been conceived in the first place.

Had there been no socialist government and no birth control pills, there would be no illegitimate and mutated children, the personal cost would have been unbearable and recreational sex would have ceased.

If you want to cut the cost of necessary medicine, then simply eliminate the middlemen: the government, HHS, FDA, insurance companies, and employers.

You are worried about insurance companies discriminating against patients with preexisting conditions? Simple. Open up interstate commerce to make policies portable and affordable, carried by individuals, not corporate employers. Open up a Health Savings Account for the small maladies. Free markets and free people succeed.
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Feb 10, 2016 23:51:13   #
Honest/trustworthy and politician are like water and oil. They don't mix.

Doc110 wrote:
Exit Poll: 5% of NH Democrat V**ers Say Hillary Clinton Is Honest, Trustworthy 93% view opponent Sanders as honest.

Sarah Fisher
http://www.t***hrevolt.org/news/exit-poll-5-nh-democrat-v**ers-say-hillary-clinton-honest-trustworthy


Fox News' exit poll reveals that only 5% of New Hampshire's Democrats say Hillary Clinton is "honest and trustworthy."

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, on the other hand, garnered that label from 93% of Democrats.

Opinions about Clinton's honesty seem to be getting worse as the campaign moves forward:

Perceptions of Clinton on the question of honesty are worse in New Hampshire than they were in Iowa, where 10 percent picked her in an exit poll.

Sanders was picked by 83 percent of those asked in Iowa about who is more honest.

The latest findings suggest that the FBI investigation of over a thousand classified emails on Clinton's homebrewed server has raised doubts in the public mind as to Clinton's honesty.

Other Clinton problems that might effect v**ers' perceptions of her include the questionable dealings of the Clinton Foundation and her role in the response to the B******i attack.

Nationally, Sanders has been closing in on Hillary and now trails her by only 2 points.

Recent polling shows Clinton has a sizeable lead over Sanders in the upcoming primary in South Carolina at the end of February.
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Feb 8, 2016 23:55:32   #
You doctors sure aren't going to fix the system in favor of patients. The insurance industry sure won't fix the system in favor of patients.

Government is the only one left with the ability to do something. Patients can't do it. How can they? They have no way to fight the system.

The marketplace does nothing but race to bottom for an insurance plan that is the cheapest because most plan holders don't use it. The cheapest plan the marketplace offers is the most popular, bare bones policy to the point of only covering acute illness and zero coverage for chronic pre-existing conditions.

On top of all that mess, those with a real policy have to pay for those dead beats with no insurance.

That is the dumbest policy in the world. Why should anyone get insurance when they can go to the ER if they get sick and those with a plan pay for them?

True conservatives used to always support personal responsibility. They used to say, not having health insurance is negligence that is destroying the system for honest working people that buy insurance. Uninsured were considered a d**g on society.

Today, conservatives support the negligent free loader's choice to not buy health insurance.

Now which is worse? A nun complaining she shouldn't have to pay for contraceptive pills of an accountant she hired? Or a lady who has ALS who is uninsurable because it is a pre-existing condition?

The problems fixed by affordable care make the complaints caused by it pale in comparison.

crazylibertarian wrote:
I read a thoroughly plausible explanation that Obama cut a deal with the insurance companies to get them on board with the entire effort.

It all started with government deciding that health care was too important to leave to the people & marketplace, so it developed licensing. This followed another governmental paternalism project in education. That government enforcement became the vehicle for the inculcation of socialistic, c*******tic & atheistic (often allies, anyway) principles and later the New World Order.

If you argue that education and health care are too important to be left to the people, then what about other endeavors that are also crucial, and maybe even more so, to human survival? How about all the construction industries that provide us with shelter? And what about agriculture which has been penetrated fairly deeply by government anyway? Wh**ever field you’re in, I can argue that it should also be provided through an Affordable Act.

Then there is the case of Michigan Rep. Bart Stupak, a pro-life Democrat, who withheld his endorsement of ACA until the wording was changed to his satisfaction. The Little Sisters of the poor, a Catholic nunnery group, is having to challenge that they are being forced to pay for coverage of services contrary to their consciences. I know of no one hearing from him yet the media should be on his doorstep asking him his reaction. Complicity?

And then finally, Cardinal Timothy Dolan, in a segment on 60 Minutes, stated that as then Archbishop of New York, he’d had a meeting with Pres. Barack Obama at The White House who assured him that there would be faith exemptions to any health care act during his adminstration. This means that either Dolan is lying about the meeting or that Obama lied to him. Anyone care to say which one it is?

I have put this question out on the internet including to some groups that have progressive members & received not answer. I directly challenged one progressive who evaded it by saying that he wasn’t there so he couldn’t answer. Even now, the segment is probably still available to watch.

My final response to anyone who thinks the Affordable Care Act is so great, then aply one to your own field and see how it goes before you apply one to mine. I’m a physician.
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Feb 8, 2016 18:30:58   #
MarvinSussman wrote:
About half of the debt came from invading Iraq and its continuing consequences. Much of the other half is due to the Bush Meltdown and its continuing consequences: low tax revenue.


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And I figured there'd be amnesia over where the debt came from. Folks never learn and are lining up behind those wanting to invade Iran, deregulate more banks again and cut taxes as if those failures never existed.
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Feb 7, 2016 18:51:45   #
It works really well and works the same way as c**pons, discounts and holiday specials in a capitalist economic system.

sboy wrote:
The only incentive the business owner has, or needs, is the incentive to earn more for himself and his family, in order to live a better life. The manipulation of the tax system, just like the artificial manipulation of every other government system, in an effort to improve society, is a fraud. If things are to work well, they must do so naturally, like eating and breathing. Otherwise, things get out of kilter and the government is expected to step in to correct the situation. The government then becomes the master of your fate, simply because the government has all of the power.
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Feb 7, 2016 12:55:46   #
Charitable contribution deduction is a classic example of capitalist incentives instead of the government redistributing it to the poor, it is an incentive for private donations to address the societal problem.

Having no tax incentive to have a business is socialist where they want the government to own all business anyway. Capitalism wants private ownership of everything. Socialism want everything equal. Capitalism gives an incentive to those risking their private capital expenditure to contribute to the economic system. Socialism wants no incentive and treats the consumer the same as the job creator.

You are spot on about trying to get people to alter their natural behavior - - to get off their lazy rears, start a business and contribute to capitalism. It is not supposed to be consumerist economy it is a capitalist economy.


sboy wrote:
If the purpose of a tax is an incentive to do, or not do, something it is wrong. Incentives and subsidies have no place in the capitalistic system. You can always tell if a government policy, such as a tax, is socialistic. It tries to get people to alter their natural behavior to do what their government masters want them to do.
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Feb 6, 2016 23:57:48   #
Without the Affordable Electrical Act, 9 of 10 go to the electrical emergency room where electricians are obligated to fix their breaker and pass the cost onto the 1 of 10 with electrical insurance. The Affordable Electrical Act forces personal responsibility.

Personal responsibility used to be a thing conservatives stood for in this country. Nowadays, they support the right to not take personal responsibility. That's why the country is going down the drains. Because conservatism no longer means taking personal responsibility to buy insurance but instead supports the rights of free loaders in fact, calling such a policy a 'free market' solution.

If they supported a personal responsibility, they would offer a tax incentive to buy insurance and a tax penalty plus no bankruptcy protection to those that don't buy any. All I see proposed is full support of individuals who don't buy insurance but then get free care and debt protection when they need medical treatment.

If you drive without car insurance, you get a fine and imprisonment. Similar penalty should be for going to ER without insurance because making others pay for your bills is irresponsible, negligent and destroys our quality of life.

JW wrote:
He said in less than one page what Congress required 2400 pages to say. Sounds like a good analogy to me.
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Feb 6, 2016 23:38:54   #
Socialism is about everything equal. Well, a flat tax means simple consumers who have very little to contribute to the economy get the same rate as business owners. A capitalist society gives tax incentives to business owners to take risks and deduct losses, advertising, interest on loans and all the stuff they need to make is worthwhile, creating jobs for the economy. With out that kind of capitalist incentive in tax law, it's a socialist system. They are no better than a consumer in the flat tax system.

sboy wrote:
Putting useless people out of useless jobs has a positive effect on the economy. CPA's and tax advisors would be unnecessary if everybody understood the tax system. These people [usually of the highest intelligence] would then be shifted to other, more productive work, which WOULD benefit the economy.

I fail to see how a flat tax is a socialist thing. It is just the opposite, as it is not an attempt to redistribute the wealth.
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